about the zone file management

2010-11-28 Thread Tech W.
Hello,

I'm not sure, is it right for the management of zone files, with both dynamic 
update and editting by hand? 

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Re: can @ be CNAME?

2010-11-23 Thread Tech W.
Thanks a lot Matthew.

 
 CNAME records are special.  You can't have any other
 records for a label
 where you have a CNAME record (well, with the exception of
 RRSIG records
 if you're using DNSSEC).  This is covered in great
 detail in any
 introductory text on DNS.
 
 The principle reason to want to have a CNAME record at the
 apex of a
 zone is to make http://example.com/ be a synonym for
 http://www.example.com/.  The way to deal with
 that is to turn it round
 and make www.example.com be the CNAME record, and have the
 A record at
 example.com.  Or just have A or  records at both
 example.com and
 www.example.com
 



  
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can @ be CNAME?

2010-11-22 Thread Tech W.
Hello,

can I set @ to a cname type? like:

@  IN  CNAME  www.example.com.

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No cache for NS RR in public DNS

2010-10-15 Thread Tech W.
Hello,

like this domain:

blogchina.org

I can't get its NS RR in public DNS:

dig blogchina.org ns @8.8.8.8

get nothing.

But it does work correctly.
for example, query the record:

dig udb.yy.blogchina.org

works!

How to setup Bind for this?

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Re: No cache for NS RR in public DNS

2010-10-15 Thread Tech W.


--- On Fri, 15/10/10, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote:

 From: Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org
 Subject: Re: No cache for NS RR in public DNS
 To: Tech W. tech...@yahoo.com.cn
 Cc: bind-us...@isc.org
 Received: Friday, 15 October, 2010, 9:21 PM
 
 In message 811222.51900...@web15706.mail.cnb.yahoo.com,
 Tech W. writes:
  Hello,
  
  like this domain:
  
  blogchina.org
  
  I can't get its NS RR in public DNS:
  
  dig blogchina.org ns @8.8.8.8
  
  get nothing.
  
  But it does work correctly.
  for example, query the record:
  
  dig udb.yy.blogchina.org
  
  works!
 
 No. It's just that the lookup of udb.yy.blogchina.org does
 not
 depend apon the presence of the blogchina.org ns records in
 the
 zone.  The resolver uses the records from the org
 zone.  Only when
 you explictly query for them do you notice their absence.
 

So, is that a bad setup for the zone without a NS record?

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question on query process

2010-05-25 Thread Tech W.
Hello,

I have a question about the query process of local dns cache to remote servers.
When my local dns cache want to find the A record for a domain name, for 
example, www.example.com
If the A record doesn't exist in its cache, but example.com's NS records are 
there.
Thus the dns cache will query to example.com's ns servers directly, is it?

If the domain's NS records are not there, how will dns cache handle the case?

Thanks  Regards,
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a question on bind cache

2010-01-14 Thread Tech W.
Hello,

We have been facing this problem, sometime the original server was down, but 
Bind didn't know it, and still answered clients with the dead IP.
Or sometime an external domain name has two or more IPs,  accessing to part of 
them is fast, but accessing to another part is slow.
So, do you think is there a resolving way for Bind which can implement the 
features:

1. check the popular domains' original IPs (like google's, yahoo's, aol's etc), 
and exclude the dead IPs from its cache.
2. for the popular domains, testing the access speed to each of their IPs and 
answers the fast IPs to local clients.

Thanks for any suggestion.

Regards,
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Re: a question on bind cache

2010-01-14 Thread Tech W.




- Original Message 
 From: Kevin Darcy k...@chrysler.com
 To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
 Sent: Thu, 14 January, 2010 11:42:32 PM
 Subject: Re: a question on bind cache
 
 The highest incentive, and the optimal strategy, is for content *owners* 
 to manage this, not *consumers*.
 
 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=content+distribution+network
 

Thanks, I know something about CDN.
But I also want to know if it's possible to let DNS handle this?

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Re: parent dns answers the ARR of child dns

2009-12-03 Thread Tech W.


--- On Fri, 4/12/09, Kevin Darcy k...@chrysler.com wrote:

 From: Kevin Darcy k...@chrysler.com
 Subject: Re: parent dns answers the ARR of child dns
 To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
 Received: Friday, 4 December, 2009, 1:56 AM
 Not only that, but DNS.gduf.edu.cn is
 performing recursion, while not 
 setting RA in, and not copying RD into, the header of the
 response.
 
 % dig www.smartip.gduf.edu.cn. @DNS.gduf.edu.cn
 
 ;  DiG 9.3.0 
 www.smartip.gduf.edu.cn. @DNS.gduf.edu.cn
 ;; global options: printcmd
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR,
 id: 593
 ;; flags: qr aa; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 1,
 ADDITIONAL: 0
 
 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;www.smartip.gduf.edu.cn. IN A
 
 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 www.smartip.gduf.edu.cn. 30 IN A 218.192.12.3
 www.smartip.gduf.edu.cn. 30 IN A 218.192.12.4
 www.smartip.gduf.edu.cn. 30 IN A 218.192.12.10
 
 I suspect this is YABDLBD (Yet Another Brain-Damaged
 Load-Balancer 
 Device). Or a defective DNS proxy.

Thanks for your answers.
But DNS.gduf.edu.cn is a Windows DNS Server running on MS Advanced Server,
not a proxy or load-balancer.

 
 While the cache is populated with these records, even
 *non-recursive* 
 queries will be given this answer directly, instead of a
 referral. Once 
 the records time out, referrals are given again.
 

Yes I am also confused by this behavior.
So do you have any suggestion how to resolve it?
I want, any query to the subzone should be answered by subzone's NS server, not 
by the parent one.


Thanks again.
Regards.



  
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Re: change NXDOMAIN to a A type response

2009-08-03 Thread Tech W.


--- On Mon, 3/8/09, Matus UHLAR - fantomas uh...@fantomas.sk wrote:


 
 Many people consider that a bad idea. the DNS is used by
 many applications
 in many manners and providing false answers can break them
 in many ways.
 


Here the primary ISP CN Telecom does do DNS hijack, though I hate this.
anybody could try it using their DNS with nslookup:

 server 202.96.128.166
Default Server:  cache-b.guangzhou.gd.cn
Address:  202.96.128.166

 www.notexists234256235.com
Server:  cache-b.guangzhou.gd.cn
Address:  202.96.128.166

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:www.notexists234256235.com
Address:  59.37.71.85


www.notexists234256235.com doesn't exist, but this DNS does return an A RR.


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Re: about allow-update

2009-07-28 Thread Tech W.

Hi Evan,

I follow your suggestion to add the corresponding syntax into named.conf, then 
I run rndc reload, but got:

# sbin/rndc reload
rndc: connection to remote host closed
This may indicate that
* the remote server is using an older version of the command protocol,
* this host is not authorized to connect,
* the clocks are not syncronized, or
* the key is invalid.

bind version:
# sbin/named -v
BIND 9.6.0-P1


Please help, thanks.

Regards,
Wah.


--- On Thu, 16/7/09, Evan Hunt e...@isc.org wrote:

 From: Evan Hunt e...@isc.org
 Subject: Re: about allow-update
 To: Tech W. tech...@yahoo.com.cn
 Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org
 Received: Thursday, 16 July, 2009, 11:26 AM
 
  Besides TSIG key, I want to limit the source address
 also.  That's to
  say, I want the given address with specified key to
 execute the update
  only.
  
  How can I do it? Is this syntax correct?
  
  allow-update {key mykey; 192.168.1.254;};
 
 Alas, no.  What you want is:
 
         allow-update { !{
 !192.168.1.254; any; }; key mykey; } 
 
 See http://www.mail-archive.com/bind-users@lists.isc.org/msg00045.html
 for my hard-to-read explanation of this painful syntax.
 
 --
 Evan Hunt -- e...@isc.org
 Internet Systems Consortium, Inc.
 


  

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Re: about tcp port 53

2009-07-28 Thread Tech W.





--- On Tue, 28/7/09, Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzme...@nic.fr wrote:

 
  what's the use of bind's tcp port 53?
 
 DNS requests and responses.
 

oh, I was always thinking dns requests and responses are going with udp 
protocal. under what condition it uses tcp protocal?


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about cache nonexist record

2009-07-20 Thread Tech W.

Hello,

I have Bind-9.6.1 running on our university environment, have been using 
dynamic update.

My question is, when other DNS query my named for a record, for example 
test.example.com, but this record doesn't exist. How long time will the remote 
DNS cache this nonexist record?

I found the problem that if this nonexist record was cached by remote DNS, even 
if I added the corresponding record to named zone soon, the remote DNS can't 
find it quickly.

This is not good for dynamic update IMO, for example, I need to change a 
record, then I have to do:

nsupdate delete 
nsupdate add 

If the remote DNS query for this record just after 'nsupdate delete', then it 
will get nothing and cache this nonexist record for some time, even though the 
correct record has been added. How to deal with this case?


Thanks.

Regards,
Wah.


  

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Re: about cache nonexist record

2009-07-20 Thread Tech W.



--- On Tue, 21/7/09, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote:

 From: Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org
 Subject: Re: about cache nonexist record
 To: Tech W. tech...@yahoo.com.cn
 Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org
 Received: Tuesday, 21 July, 2009, 8:01 AM
 
 In message 950.42549...@web15608.mail.cnb.yahoo.com,
 Tech W. writes:
  
  Hello,
  
  I have Bind-9.6.1 running on our university
 environment, have been using dyna
  mic update.
  
  My question is, when other DNS query my named for a
 record, for example test.
  example.com, but this record doesn't exist. How long
 time will the remote DNS
   cache this nonexist record?
 
     For up to as long as you have told it
 too.  The SOA minumum is
     used to set the timer.
  
  I found the problem that if this nonexist record was
 cached by remote DNS, ev
  en if I added the corresponding record to named zone
 soon, the remote DNS can
  't find it quickly.
  
  This is not good for dynamic update IMO, for example,
 I need to change a reco
  rd, then I have to do:
  
  nsupdate delete 
  nsupdate add 
 
     Well do it in one transaction.
 
     nsupdate
     update delete ...
     update add ...
     send
 



Thanks Mark and all.
Can I ask how to call nsupdate in Perl language?
I know some Perl but not good at it.

Thanks.

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no glue A record in child domain

2009-07-18 Thread Tech W.

Hello gurus,

Say I have this glue record in parent's DNS:

child.example.com.  IN NS  ns.child.example.com.
ns.child.example.com. IN A  12.34.56.78

Then in child's zone file, I don't include the A record for  
ns.child.example.com..

What will be happened? Does it affect client's query to other records in this 
child domain?

Thanks.


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dynamic update for views

2009-06-13 Thread Tech W.

Hi,

I know how to dynamic update on a basic named config.
but my named has views setup, how to dynamic update the records to each view?
Can you point to me some resources? Thanks.

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weight for RR

2009-06-04 Thread Tech W.

Hi,

Is it possible to set weight for records?
for example,I have these two A records:

wwwIN  A   192.168.1.100
   IN  A   192.168.1.101


But I want 192.168.1.100 take the weight of 75%, and 192.168.1.101 take the 
weight of 25%. That means, when clients query for www.domain.com, 1.100 has 75% 
chance to be responsed, and 1.101 has 25% chance to be responsed.

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MX is a numeric IP

2009-05-21 Thread Tech W.

What will be happened if a MX is an numeric IP?
for example,

# dig vip.online2.sh.cn mx +short
10 218.1.71.125.


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named reloading

2009-05-18 Thread Tech W.

Hello,

Just asked this question again, b/c it's not easy to test...
When named is reloading with 'rndc reload' command, client's query is coming 
in, what will be happened? Will client's request be dropped?

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Re: dig info

2009-05-18 Thread Tech W.



--- On Mon, 18/5/09, Mark Andrews mark_andr...@isc.org wrote:

 From: Mark Andrews mark_andr...@isc.org
 Subject: Re: dig info
 To: Tech W. tech...@yahoo.com.cn
 Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org
 Received: Monday, 18 May, 2009, 10:35 PM
 
 In message 980168.77226...@web15605.mail.cnb.yahoo.com,
 Tech W. writes:
  
  Sometime I dig a domain name, it returns the results
 below:
  
  ;; reply from unexpected source: 59.42.52.246#59721,
 expected 211.66.80.167#5
  3
  ;; reply from unexpected source: 59.42.52.246#59721,
 expected 211.66.80.167#5
  3
  ;; reply from unexpected source: 59.42.52.246#59721,
 expected 211.66.80.167#5
  3
  ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
 
     Is this a linux box dig is running
 on?  Some linux kernels
     have the worst possible UDP port
 selection algorithms.  They
     keep selecting the port that was last
 selected provided it
     is closed before you get the next port
 selection request.
     On a box with several short lived UDP
 sockets you will
     almost certainly get reply traffic
 destined to the last
     user of the port.
 
     This is what is happening here, dig
 seeing replies to
     whatever was using the port immediately
 before dig was run.
     
  


Yes Mark it's a linux box with kernel 2.6.24.
But I still can't understand for your meanings.
Could you please explain it with more clear way?
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Re: glue record

2009-05-13 Thread Tech W.



--- On Wed, 13/5/09, Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzme...@nic.fr wrote:

 
 Glue was sent back since wanadoo.fr's name servers are
 under
 wanadoo.fr .


Ok please see dig info below.
if I understand for it correctly, gdpu.cn is not under b.dns.cn, why b.dns.cn 
returns glues?

Thanks.


# dig gdpu.cn ns @B.DNS.cn

;  DiG 9.5.0-P2  gdpu.cn ns @B.DNS.cn
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 53380
;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;gdpu.cn.   IN  NS

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
gdpu.cn.21600   IN  NS  dns1.gdpu.cn.
gdpu.cn.21600   IN  NS  dns2.gdpu.cn.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
dns1.gdpu.cn.   21600   IN  A   219.136.229.41
dns2.gdpu.cn.   21600   IN  A   219.136.229.42


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Re: glue record

2009-05-13 Thread Tech W.

Oh yes, I have got it. Thanks.

--- On Wed, 13/5/09, Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzme...@nic.fr wrote:

 From: Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzme...@nic.fr
 Subject: Re: glue record
 To: Tech W. tech...@yahoo.com.cn
 Cc: Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzme...@nic.fr, bind-users@lists.isc.org
 Received: Wednesday, 13 May, 2009, 3:40 PM
 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 03:37:19PM
 +0800,
  Tech W. tech...@yahoo.com.cn
 wrote 
  a message of 39 lines which said:
 
  if I understand for it correctly, gdpu.cn is not under
 b.dns.cn, 
 
 True, but irrelevant.
 
  why b.dns.cn returns glues?
 
 Because the name servers of gdpu.cn are under gdpu.cn.
 
 


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Re: glue record

2009-05-13 Thread Tech W.



--- On Wed, 13/5/09, Kal Feher kalman.fe...@melbourneit.com.au wrote:

 From: Kal Feher kalman.fe...@melbourneit.com.au
 Subject: Re: glue record
 To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
 Received: Wednesday, 13 May, 2009, 5:34 PM
 Your domain is still broken. You need
 to remove the NS record for your
 internal host.
 


I have requested the hostmaster, who said the DNS server has been joined 
Windows domain, and has the hostname of dns4.dmz.local.. She can't remove 
this hostname from the windows DNS server. Once it was removed, after some 
time, it will be added into the name server automatically by windows. How can 
she handle this case? thanks.

regards.




  
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glue record

2009-05-12 Thread Tech W.

I'm just not very sure, what's the usage for a glue record?
When an upper DNS returns a domain's authorised DNS server, will it also 
returns the authorised DNS server's IP address? So glue record works as this 
way?

Thanks for any replies.

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no NS but having A record

2009-05-11 Thread Tech W.

Hello,

For this domain, gdpu.cn, I tried to find its ns record:

dig gdpu.cn ns

with no results.

But I can dig its www record as below. 
why this happened? I can't understand entirely..
Thanks.

# dig www.gdpu.cn

;  DiG 9.5.0-P2  www.gdpu.cn
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 59573
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.gdpu.cn.   IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.gdpu.cn.2742IN  A   219.136.229.45

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
gdpu.cn.13652   IN  NS  dns2.gdpu.cn.
gdpu.cn.13652   IN  NS  dns1.gdpu.cn.


  
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Re: no NS but having A record

2009-05-11 Thread Tech W.

Hi,

Firstly the DNS serveres for that domain is not mastered by me.
I got the NS dig info as below.
You can see, if I specify another public DNS (211.66.80.161), the results can 
be fetched. If I don't specify a DNS (use the default one 202.96.128.143 of my 
ISP), dig gets nothing.
So I'm really confused on their configure.
Please help again, thanks~


# dig gdpu.cn ns  @211.66.80.161

;  DiG 9.5.0-P2  gdpu.cn ns @211.66.80.161
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 57139
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;gdpu.cn.   IN  NS

;; ANSWER SECTION:
gdpu.cn.21347   IN  NS  dns2.gdpu.cn.
gdpu.cn.21347   IN  NS  dns1.gdpu.cn.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
dns2.gdpu.cn.   21347   IN  A   219.136.229.42
dns1.gdpu.cn.   21347   IN  A   219.136.229.41

;; Query time: 3 msec
;; SERVER: 211.66.80.161#53(211.66.80.161)
;; WHEN: Mon May 11 18:51:19 2009
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 95


# dig gdpu.cn ns

;  DiG 9.5.0-P2  gdpu.cn ns
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 15877
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;gdpu.cn.   IN  NS

;; Query time: 1 msec
;; SERVER: 202.96.128.143#53(202.96.128.143)
;; WHEN: Mon May 11 18:51:24 2009
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 25

--- On Mon, 11/5/09, Scott Haneda talkli...@newgeo.com wrote:

 
 I do not think you can have a .local NS.  Both of
 those NS's have to be reachable by the outside world, and
 .local is not. It may be on your local lan, but outside
 that, it will not be.



  
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Re: about resolving on a child zone

2009-04-13 Thread Tech W.



--- On Tue, 14/4/09, Chris Buxton cbux...@menandmice.com wrote:

 From: Chris Buxton cbux...@menandmice.com
 Subject: Re: about resolving on a child zone

 
 In this case, the answer is that your main zone
 (example.com) will have an error, because it will have an A
 record below the bottom of the zone that is not a glue
 record. In other words, it will recognize that
 www.my.example.com belongs to my.example.com, not to
 example.com.
 

Thanks Chris for the good info.
How about this case below?

my.example.com.  IN  NS  ns.my.example.com.
ns.my.example.com.  IN  A  11.22.33.44


Under this case, the A record for ns.my.example.com. will be defined in main 
DNS or ns.my.example.com or both?

Thanks again.
Regards.



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Re: help on strange dig info

2009-04-12 Thread Tech W.



--- On Sun, 12/4/09, Gregory Hicks ghi...@hicks-net.net wrote:

 From: Gregory Hicks ghi...@hicks-net.net
 Subject: Re: help on strange dig info
 To: bind-users@lists.isc.org, tech...@yahoo.com.cn
 Received: Sunday, 12 April, 2009, 3:33 PM
 
  I digged a domain name as below:
  
  r...@dev1:~# dig www.csfunds.com.cn
  
  ;  DiG 9.5.0-P2 
 www.csfunds.com.cn
  ;; global options:  printcmd
  ;; Got answer:
  ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status:
 NOERROR, id: 23283
  ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 2,
 ADDITIONAL: 0
  
  ;; QUESTION SECTION:
  ;www.csfunds.com.cn.         
   IN      A
  
  ;; ANSWER SECTION:
  www.csfunds.com.cn. 
    86149   IN   
   CNAME   www.f5.csfunds.com.cn.
  www.f5.csfunds.com.cn.  30     
 IN      A   
    124.207.40.24
  
  ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
  f5.csfunds.com.cn.     
 85769   IN      NS 
     lc2.f5.csfunds.com.cn.
  f5.csfunds.com.cn.     
 85769   IN      NS 
     lc1.f5.csfunds.com.cn.
  
  
  It said f5.csfunds.com.cn's nameservers are
 lc1.f5.csfunds.com.cn and 
 lc2.f5.csfunds.com.cn.
  
  
  But, I can't dig the info for both lc1 and lc2.
 
 Those are lame servers, kind sir.  In other words, the
 domain is
 delegated to those servers but those servers don't
 recognize their
 authority.
 


Thanks Hicks.
Why F5's big-ip has been using a lame server there?

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about ns record in child domain

2009-04-11 Thread Tech W.

Greetings,

I have a domain said example.com.
in example.com's main DNS I added a NS record:

cdn.example.com.  IN  NS  otherdns.example.com.
otherdns.example.com.  IN  A  12.34.56.78


Then in DNS of otherdns.example.com, I set something in named.conf like:

  zone cdn.example.com {
   type master;
   file /var/cdn.example.com.db;
  };

in cdn.example.com.db:

www.cdn.example.com.  IN  A  11.22.33.44
mail.cdn.example.com   IN  A  xx.xx.xx.xx
...


But, my question is, how can I add NS records for zone itself of 
cdn.example.com? I mean, I can't add something like this in cdn.example.com.db:

otherdns.example.com.  IN  A  12.34.56.78
(this NS item was defined in example.com's main dns.)


Please help, thanks!

Regards.
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Re: about ns record in child domain

2009-04-11 Thread Tech W.



--- On Sun, 12/4/09, Chris Buxton cbux...@menandmice.com wrote:

 From: Chris Buxton cbux...@menandmice.com
 Subject: Re: about ns record in child domain
 To: Tech W. tech...@yahoo.com.cn
 Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org
 Received: Sunday, 12 April, 2009, 11:04 AM
 On Apr 11, 2009, at 7:42 PM, Tech W.
 wrote:
  But, my question is, how can I add NS records for zone
 itself of cdn.example.com? I mean, I can't add something
 like this in cdn.example.com.db:
  
  otherdns.example.com.  IN  A 
 12.34.56.78
  (this NS item was defined in example.com's main dns.)
 
 You've confused NS records with A records. Create the NS
 record; omit the A record.
 
 cdn.example.com.  IN  NS 
 otherdns.example.com.
 


Thanks Chris.
Do you mean in a zone, we have a NS record, but we don't need to have an A 
record corresponding to that NS record?

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