Re: Max number of views and performance.

2011-08-30 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

On 30.08.11 01:36, sky shade wrote:

I think in use views with diferent zones files, all for same domain, no
recursive querys, one view for each network/AS that my bgp router know.


1. are you sure you need that?
2. how many versions of the domains does that make?

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Re: Max number of views and performance.

2011-08-30 Thread sky shade
few versions, like 100 versions.

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas
uh...@fantomas.skwrote:

 On 30.08.11 01:36, sky shade wrote:

 I think in use views with diferent zones files, all for same domain, no
 recursive querys, one view for each network/AS that my bgp router know.


 1. are you sure you need that?
 2. how many versions of the domains does that make?


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Re: Max number of views and performance.

2011-08-29 Thread sky shade
I think in use views with diferent zones files, all for same domain, no
recursive querys, one view for each network/AS that my bgp router know.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 6:36 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas
uh...@fantomas.skwrote:

 24.08.2011 08:04, sky shade пишет:

 I like to know if bind 9.8 have a limit of view?

 There is any number or I can create something like 1 million views
 without problems?
 There is any performance implication in use to many views?


 On 25.08.11 10:27, Dmitry Rybin wrote:

 I use about 120 views. It accure 1,8gb of RAM in Idle. You must limit
 recursive cache to 32-64MB per view, and forward all recursive queries to
 another DNS server (I use powerdns-recurser at 127.0.0.2) for best
 perfomance.


 you can also use attach-cache directive to share a cache betwween multiple
 views. If your views only differ by loaded zones, that should not be a
 problem.

 If it's not possible, you (or the OP) can surely configure 120 or e.g.
 million real or virtual machines to provide the DNS service.  That is just
 what views do within one BIND process.

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Re: Max number of views and performance.

2011-08-25 Thread Dmitry Rybin

24.08.2011 08:04, sky shade пишет:

Hello

I like to know if bind 9.8 have a limit of view?
There is any number or I can create something like 1 million views
without problems?
There is any performance implication in use to many views?



I use about 120 views. It accure 1,8gb of RAM in Idle. You must limit 
recursive cache to 32-64MB per view, and forward all recursive queries 
to another DNS server (I use powerdns-recurser at 127.0.0.2) for best 
perfomance.

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Re: Max number of views and performance.

2011-08-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas

24.08.2011 08:04, sky shade пишет:

I like to know if bind 9.8 have a limit of view?
There is any number or I can create something like 1 million views
without problems?
There is any performance implication in use to many views?


On 25.08.11 10:27, Dmitry Rybin wrote:
I use about 120 views. It accure 1,8gb of RAM in Idle. You must limit 
recursive cache to 32-64MB per view, and forward all recursive 
queries to another DNS server (I use powerdns-recurser at 127.0.0.2) 
for best perfomance.


you can also use attach-cache directive to share a cache betwween 
multiple views. If your views only differ by loaded zones, that should 
not be a problem.


If it's not possible, you (or the OP) can surely configure 120 or e.g. 
million real or virtual machines to provide the DNS service.  That is 
just what views do within one BIND process.


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Re: Max number of views and performance.

2011-08-24 Thread Alans
BIND loads all views to memory, with that number you will run into 
memory problems.


regards,
Alans
On 8/24/2011 7:04 AM, sky shade wrote:

Hello

I like to know if bind 9.8 have a limit of view?
There is any number or I can create something like 1 million views 
without problems?

There is any performance implication in use to many views?

Thanks

Skyshade




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Re: Max number of views and performance.

2011-08-24 Thread sky shade
Someone know how bind test client matches? I know that its respect the
declaration sequence, but i dont know if they will test matches in all views
before goes to default.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Alans alans...@gmail.com wrote:

 BIND loads all views to memory, with that number you will run into memory
 problems.

 regards,
 Alans

 On 8/24/2011 7:04 AM, sky shade wrote:

 Hello

 I like to know if bind 9.8 have a limit of view?
 There is any number or I can create something like 1 million views without
 problems?
 There is any performance implication in use to many views?

 Thanks

 Skyshade




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Re: Max number of views and performance.

2011-08-24 Thread Chris Buxton
Views are tested in order. The first view that matches (by match-* statements), 
wins. There is no default unless you create one as the last view, typically 
without any match-* statements -- the default is to match all requests.

1 million views sounds to me like a recipe for disaster. The time to run 
through all of the match-clients statements would probably be excessive, and 
the memory requirements would likely be huge.

Chris Buxton
BlueCat Networks

On Aug 24, 2011, at 9:32 AM, sky shade wrote:

 Someone know how bind test client matches? I know that its respect the 
 declaration sequence, but i dont know if they will test matches in all views 
 before goes to default.
 
 On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Alans alans...@gmail.com wrote:
 BIND loads all views to memory, with that number you will run into memory 
 problems.
 
 regards,
 Alans
 
 On 8/24/2011 7:04 AM, sky shade wrote:
 Hello
 
 I like to know if bind 9.8 have a limit of view?
 There is any number or I can create something like 1 million views without 
 problems?
 There is any performance implication in use to many views?
 
 Thanks
 
 Skyshade
 
 
 
 
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Re: Max number of views and performance.

2011-08-24 Thread Steve Arntzen
It is my experience the client hits the views in order (top, down) until
an ACL allows it.  Once an ACL allows it in a view, it goes no further.

Steve.



On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 10:32 -0300, sky shade wrote:
 Someone know how bind test client matches? I know that its respect the
 declaration sequence, but i dont know if they will test matches in all
 views before goes to default.
 
 On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Alans alans...@gmail.com wrote:
 BIND loads all views to memory, with that number you will run
 into memory problems.
 
 regards,
 Alans
 
 
 On 8/24/2011 7:04 AM, sky shade wrote:
 
 
 Hello
 
 I like to know if bind 9.8 have a limit of view?
 There is any number or I can create something like 1
 million views without problems?
 There is any performance implication in use to many
 views?
 
 Thanks
 
 Skyshade
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Max number of views and performance.

2011-08-24 Thread Torinthiel
On 08/24/11 16:03, Chris Buxton wrote:
 Views are tested in order. The first view that matches (by match-*
 statements), wins. There is no default unless you create one as the last
 view, typically without any match-* statements -- the default is to
 match all requests.
 
 1 million views sounds to me like a recipe for disaster. The time to run
 through all of the match-clients statements would probably be excessive,
 and the memory requirements would likely be huge.

And one question remains: Why would anyone need such a setup.
Torinthiel



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Max number of views and performance.

2011-08-23 Thread sky shade
Hello

I like to know if bind 9.8 have a limit of view?
There is any number or I can create something like 1 million views without
problems?
There is any performance implication in use to many views?

Thanks

Skyshade
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Re: Max number of views and performance.

2011-08-23 Thread 风河
I have been running it with thousands of views without problem.
在 2011-8-24 下午12:12,sky shade skysh...@gmail.com写道:
 Hello

 I like to know if bind 9.8 have a limit of view?
 There is any number or I can create something like 1 million views without
 problems?
 There is any performance implication in use to many views?

 Thanks

 Skyshade
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