Re: Questions on how to setup Reverse DNS in bind 9

[Spork Schivago]

Okay, I do think it was working correctly.   I think that's why I was
getting the ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR in Chrome when I went to my site when I
had the second IP address added, but other users weren't.  I think the
users getting the error message in Chrome were pulling the second IP
address from their DNS servers, but the people who successfully could go to
their site where getting the first IP address and could successfully see my
site.

I can try to explain the cPanel / Apache stuff a bit better.   I have an
Apache config file, /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf.There's a bunch
of comments that say don't edit this file directly.   Use the cPanel
interface or the "templates".   cPanel has these templates and we run a
script to rebuild the config file.   It'll automatically populate it with
stuff like:



I can tell cPanel which IP address to use but I can't pick both of them.
So Apache doesn't have

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 2:49 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas 
wrote:

> On 20.07.16 21:40, Spork Schivago wrote:
>
>> I don't remember the tools, but I know that the way cPanel handles stuff
>> with Apache, it broke my website for me.   Using the cPanel / WHM
>> interface, I could tell Apache to listen on one IP or the other, not both,
>> unfortunately.   Some people (my wife's cell for instance) could make it
>> to
>> my site, but on her laptop, I could not.   I believe this is because I
>> redirect everything to port 443 and the SSL certs were setup for the first
>> IP, not the second.
>>
>
> huh? SSL certs should be created with required hostname, e.g.
> franklin.jetbbs.com in CommonName - not the IPs.
> you just need transfer both public and private keys to other server...
> just watch out if you don't make the private key available to others.
>
>   I believe when I assigned the second IP address to
>> the A record jetbbs.com, sometimes I'd go to the first IP and Apache
>> would
>> pick it up, other times, I'd go to the second IP and Apache wouldn't know
>> how to handle it.   Maybe it was because the SSL certs were created when I
>> only had the one IP, I don't know.   But it really messed things up and I
>> had to remove the second IP again.   I think if I manually edited the
>> httpd.conf file and regenerated the SSL certs, things might have started
>> working.
>>
>
> this is your problem. don't generate ssl keys when adding IPs.
>
>
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Re: Questions on how to setup Reverse DNS in bind 9

[Matus UHLAR - fantomas]

On 20.07.16 21:40, Spork Schivago wrote:

I don't remember the tools, but I know that the way cPanel handles stuff
with Apache, it broke my website for me.   Using the cPanel / WHM
interface, I could tell Apache to listen on one IP or the other, not both,
unfortunately.   Some people (my wife's cell for instance) could make it to
my site, but on her laptop, I could not.   I believe this is because I
redirect everything to port 443 and the SSL certs were setup for the first
IP, not the second.


huh? SSL certs should be created with required hostname, e.g.
franklin.jetbbs.com in CommonName - not the IPs. 


you just need transfer both public and private keys to other server...
just watch out if you don't make the private key available to others.


  I believe when I assigned the second IP address to
the A record jetbbs.com, sometimes I'd go to the first IP and Apache would
pick it up, other times, I'd go to the second IP and Apache wouldn't know
how to handle it.   Maybe it was because the SSL certs were created when I
only had the one IP, I don't know.   But it really messed things up and I
had to remove the second IP again.   I think if I manually edited the
httpd.conf file and regenerated the SSL certs, things might have started
working.


this is your problem. don't generate ssl keys when adding IPs.


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Re: Questions on how to setup Reverse DNS in bind 9

[Spork Schivago]

Matus UHLAR - fantomas,

I don't remember the tools, but I know that the way cPanel handles stuff
with Apache, it broke my website for me.   Using the cPanel / WHM
interface, I could tell Apache to listen on one IP or the other, not both,
unfortunately.   Some people (my wife's cell for instance) could make it to
my site, but on her laptop, I could not.   I believe this is because I
redirect everything to port 443 and the SSL certs were setup for the first
IP, not the second.   I believe when I assigned the second IP address to
the A record jetbbs.com, sometimes I'd go to the first IP and Apache would
pick it up, other times, I'd go to the second IP and Apache wouldn't know
how to handle it.   Maybe it was because the SSL certs were created when I
only had the one IP, I don't know.   But it really messed things up and I
had to remove the second IP again.   I think if I manually edited the
httpd.conf file and regenerated the SSL certs, things might have started
working.

Ken

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 4:14 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas 
wrote:

> On 19.07.16 19:28, Spork Schivago wrote:
>
>> I got the A records set back up again.   Here's the important stuff I
>> think.
>>
>> Does it look right?
>>
>
> yes, although you may safely skip the localhost, and you may skip ".
> jetbbs.com."
> or replace simply "jetbbs.com." by "@" (if cpannel supports that - it
> should)
>
> e.g.
>
> jetbbs.com. 86400   IN  NS   ns1.jetbbs.com.
>>
>
> @   86400   IN  NS  ns1
>
> For the reverse DNS pointer records, I think when I contact GoDaddy, I'm
>> going to ask if they can setup a PTR record so 104.238.117.105 points to
>> franklin.jetbbs.com and 132.148.11.44 points to franklin.jetbbs.com as
>> well.   I think that'll help with mail filtering and stuff.
>>
>
> that will help your mail in getting delivered in the first place ;-)
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Spork Schivago 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I had removed the A record after it didn't work.   I was speaking in past
>>> tense there.  One of the DNS checking tools I was using went nuts
>>> complaining about something not being right so I undid my changes.   I'll
>>> recreate it.
>>>
>>
> I'd like to see which tool and what complaints were they.
> some tools are good, some insist on useless things and some miss important
> things...
>
> The idea behind having two IP addresses and setting up the DNS servers was
>>> because I wanted to eventually setup some redundancy and play around with
>>> running a server out of my house.   I'll create the second A record for
>>> jetbbs.com again but when we get into the new house, I'll change it so
>>> the IP address for the second A record points to my server at the house.
>>> That way, if one server goes down, people can still connect.   It'd be a
>>> great opportunity to learn this stuff a bit more I think.
>>>
>>
> good idea.
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Re: Questions on how to setup Reverse DNS in bind 9

[Matus UHLAR - fantomas]

On 19.07.16 19:28, Spork Schivago wrote:

I got the A records set back up again.   Here's the important stuff I think.

Does it look right?


yes, although you may safely skip the localhost, and you may skip ".jetbbs.com."
or replace simply "jetbbs.com." by "@" 
(if cpannel supports that - it should)


e.g.


jetbbs.com. 86400   IN  NS   ns1.jetbbs.com.


@   86400   IN  NS  ns1


For the reverse DNS pointer records, I think when I contact GoDaddy, I'm
going to ask if they can setup a PTR record so 104.238.117.105 points to
franklin.jetbbs.com and 132.148.11.44 points to franklin.jetbbs.com as
well.   I think that'll help with mail filtering and stuff.


that will help your mail in getting delivered in the first place ;-)


On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Spork Schivago 
wrote:

I had removed the A record after it didn't work.   I was speaking in past
tense there.  One of the DNS checking tools I was using went nuts
complaining about something not being right so I undid my changes.   I'll
recreate it.


I'd like to see which tool and what complaints were they.
some tools are good, some insist on useless things and some miss important
things...


The idea behind having two IP addresses and setting up the DNS servers was
because I wanted to eventually setup some redundancy and play around with
running a server out of my house.   I'll create the second A record for
jetbbs.com again but when we get into the new house, I'll change it so
the IP address for the second A record points to my server at the house.
That way, if one server goes down, people can still connect.   It'd be a
great opportunity to learn this stuff a bit more I think.


good idea.
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Re: Questions on how to setup Reverse DNS in bind 9

[Matus UHLAR - fantomas]

On 18.07.16 19:44, Spork Schivago wrote:

At this time franklin.jetbbs.com ONLY RESOLVES TO 104.238.117.105

The way I wanted it was 104.238.117.105 AND 132.148.11.44to point to
jetbbs.com   but I think I setup the DNS record wrong.   I just added
another A record for jetbbs.com and added the IP address 132.148.11.44 to
it.   This part wasn't for the reverse DNS.   I got two IP addresses I'm
using.


jetbbs.com IS NOT franklin.jetbbs.com


I got an A name for franklin, and that's the 104.238.117.105.   Should I
have added another A name for franklin as well to setup the round robin
stuff?   You know, when someone connects to JetBBS.com, the first time they
connect, it takes them to 104.238.117.105.   The next time they connect, it
takes them to 132.148.11.44. 


you don't have to set up "round robin" and you can't decide who connects to
which IP.

If you set up two IP addresses for one DNS name, random servers will connect
to random addresses in rantom times.


Is this why whenever I pinged jetbbs.com, I
only got a reply from 132.148.11.44 and not from 104.238.117.105 you think?


that is because jetbbs.com only contains 104.238.117.105 now...


 Because I didn't setup another A name for franklin?   Thanks and sorry
for all the questions.   I know these probably aren't really bind related
questions anymore.   Thanks!


once more: jetbbs.com IS NOT franklin.jetbbs.com !

FYI currently they both only contain 104.238.117.105

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Re: Questions on how to setup Reverse DNS in bind 9

[Spork Schivago]

Oscar,

On point 4 there,

At this time franklin.jetbbs.com ONLY RESOLVES TO 104.238.117.105

The way I wanted it was 104.238.117.105 AND 132.148.11.44to point to
jetbbs.com   but I think I setup the DNS record wrong.   I just added
another A record for jetbbs.com and added the IP address 132.148.11.44 to
it.   This part wasn't for the reverse DNS.   I got two IP addresses I'm
using.

I got an A name for franklin, and that's the 104.238.117.105.   Should I
have added another A name for franklin as well to setup the round robin
stuff?   You know, when someone connects to JetBBS.com, the first time they
connect, it takes them to 104.238.117.105.   The next time they connect, it
takes them to 132.148.11.44.   Is this why whenever I pinged jetbbs.com, I
only got a reply from 132.148.11.44 and not from 104.238.117.105 you think?
  Because I didn't setup another A name for franklin?   Thanks and sorry
for all the questions.   I know these probably aren't really bind related
questions anymore.   Thanks!

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Oscar Ricardo Silva 
wrote:

> A few things:
>
>
> 1. As has already been mentioned, GoDaddy probably did not delegate
> 117.238.104.in-addr.arpa to you
>
>
>
> 2. If a network has been delegated, for example 117.238.104.in-addr.arpa.
> then in the zone file it should like like this:
>
> 104.117.238.104.in-addr.arpa.   in  ptr franklin.jetbbs.com.
>
>
> 3. You can have GoDaddy create the corresponding PTR records for you.
>
>
> 4. At this time franklin.jetbbs.com ONLY RESOLVES TO 104.238.117.105
>
>
>
>
> Oscar
>
>
>
> On 07/17/2016 09:22 PM, Spork Schivago wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm new to operating a website and I'm leasing a virtual private server
>> (VPS) from GoDaddy.   I'm paying for cPanel / WHM as well.   It's
>> running CentOS 6.8 Final.  I'd like to setup reverse DNS but I'm having
>> trouble.   I'm not 100% sure how to do it.   I have my hostname,
>> franklin.jetbbs.com    and there's two IP
>> addresses assigned to that hostname, 104.238.117.105 and 132.148.11.44.
>>I was trying to setup a round robin kinda thing but I don't think I
>> set it up correctly.
>>
>> Anyway, I have ns1.jetbbs.com  which has the IP
>> of 104.238.117.105   and then I have ns2.jetbbs.com
>>  that has the IP address of 132.148.11.44.   I
>> wanted to know if someone could look over what I have so far and let me
>> know if it's correct and how I should proceed.
>>
>> So, in the /var/named directory, I create a file
>> called: 0.117.238.104.in-addr.arpa
>>
>> The contents of 0.117.238.104.in-addr.arpa are as follows:
>> $TTL 1D
>> @   IN SOA ns1.jetbbs.com . spork.jetbbs.com
>> . (
>>  2016071705  ; serial
>>  1D  ; refresh
>>  1H  ; retry
>>  1W  ; expire
>>  3H ); minimum
>>
>> 0.117.238.104.in-addr.arpa.IN  NS ns1.jetbbs.com
>> .
>> 0.11.148.132.in-addr.arpa. IN  NS ns2.jetbbs.com
>> .
>>
>> 104 IN  PTR franklin.jetbbs.com .
>> 44  IN  PTR franklin.jetbbs.com .
>>
>>
>> Does that look correct?   If not, how should I change it?   If so,
>> what's the next step?   Thank you for your help!
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Ken
>>
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Re: Questions on how to setup Reverse DNS in bind 9

[Jeremy C. Reed]

On Sun, 17 Jul 2016, Spork Schivago wrote:

> So, in the /var/named directory, I create a file
> called: 0.117.238.104.in-addr.arpa
> 
> The contents of 0.117.238.104.in-addr.arpa are as follows:
> $TTL 1D
> @       IN SOA  ns1.jetbbs.com. spork.jetbbs.com. (
>                                         2016071705      ; serial
>                                         1D              ; refresh
>                                         1H              ; retry
>                                         1W              ; expire
>                                         3H )            ; minimum
> 
> 0.117.238.104.in-addr.arpa.        IN      NS      ns1.jetbbs.com.
> 0.11.148.132.in-addr.arpa.         IN      NS      ns2.jetbbs.com.
> 
> 104     IN      PTR     franklin.jetbbs.com.
> 44      IN      PTR     franklin.jetbbs.com.


This won't work as you need NS records that match up to the zone name, 
In this case, the common zone name is only "in-addr.arpa." but no NS for 
that.  Also if it was only "in-addr.arpa." the two PTR records would be 
useless.  If your zone name does match so you have a NS record, as it is 
now, you'd have "out-of-zone data" which is ignored. Try using two 
different more specific zone files such as for 11.148.132.IN-ADDR.ARPA. 
and 117.238.104.IN-ADDR.ARPA.
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RE: Questions on how to setup Reverse DNS in bind 9

[Lightner, Jeffrey]

I haven't done it with GoDaddy but many providers WILL delegate reverse IPs to 
you if you request it.

Personal editorial comment:
Were it me I wouldn't use GoDaddy for anything.   I detest GoDaddy because 
their whole business model seems aimed at forcing you to leap through hoops to 
do anything useful.   They've recently started refusing external whois queries 
again so you must go to their website.   Often when we acquire companies and 
have to take on their domains if they're at GoDaddy they throw roadblocks in 
our way for transferring the domain to our preferred Registrar.   A new trick 
they started is denying transfers for 60 days if Registrant is updated.  They 
say they do all this to protect their customers but it seems obvious to me it 
is more to protect their bottom line.


From: bind-users [mailto:bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of John W. 
Blue
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 10:47 PM
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: Re: Questions on how to setup Reverse DNS in bind 9

Ken,

You typically will not be delegated reverse DNS.  Honestly, I would contact 
godaddy support directly and see if they can adjust it for you.  As in, not on 
your server directly but either tell you how to do it in a control panel on 
your side of the fence or they just do it from their side.

Best regards,

John

Sent from Nine

From: Spork Schivago >
Sent: Jul 17, 2016 9:24 PM
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: Questions on how to setup Reverse DNS in bind 9

Hello,

I'm new to operating a website and I'm leasing a virtual private server (VPS) 
from GoDaddy.   I'm paying for cPanel / WHM as well.   It's running CentOS 6.8 
Final.  I'd like to setup reverse DNS but I'm having trouble.   I'm not 100% 
sure how to do it.   I have my hostname, 
franklin.jetbbs.com   and there's two IP addresses 
assigned to that hostname, 104.238.117.105 and 132.148.11.44.   I was trying to 
setup a round robin kinda thing but I don't think I set it up correctly.

Anyway, I have ns1.jetbbs.com which has the IP of 
104.238.117.105   and then I have ns2.jetbbs.com that 
has the IP address of 132.148.11.44.   I wanted to know if someone could look 
over what I have so far and let me know if it's correct and how I should 
proceed.

So, in the /var/named directory, I create a file called: 
0.117.238.104.in-addr.arpa

The contents of 0.117.238.104.in-addr.arpa are as follows:
$TTL 1D
@   IN SOA  ns1.jetbbs.com. 
spork.jetbbs.com. (
2016071705  ; serial
1D  ; refresh
1H  ; retry
1W  ; expire
3H ); minimum

0.117.238.104.in-addr.arpa.IN  NS  
ns1.jetbbs.com.
0.11.148.132.in-addr.arpa. IN  NS  
ns2.jetbbs.com.

104 IN  PTR franklin.jetbbs.com.
44  IN  PTR franklin.jetbbs.com.


Does that look correct?   If not, how should I change it?   If so, what's the 
next step?   Thank you for your help!

Sincerely,
Ken
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Re: Questions on how to setup Reverse DNS in bind 9

[John W. Blue]

Ken,

You typically will not be delegated reverse DNS.  Honestly, I would contact 
godaddy support directly and see if they can adjust it for you.  As in, not on 
your server directly but either tell you how to do it in a control panel on 
your side of the fence or they just do it from their side.

Best regards,

John

Sent from Nine

From: Spork Schivago 
Sent: Jul 17, 2016 9:24 PM
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: Questions on how to setup Reverse DNS in bind 9

Hello,

I'm new to operating a website and I'm leasing a virtual private server (VPS) 
from GoDaddy.   I'm paying for cPanel / WHM as well.   It's running CentOS 6.8 
Final.  I'd like to setup reverse DNS but I'm having trouble.   I'm not 100% 
sure how to do it.   I have my hostname, 
franklin.jetbbs.com   and there's two IP addresses 
assigned to that hostname, 104.238.117.105 and 132.148.11.44.   I was trying to 
setup a round robin kinda thing but I don't think I set it up correctly.

Anyway, I have ns1.jetbbs.com which has the IP of 
104.238.117.105   and then I have ns2.jetbbs.com that 
has the IP address of 132.148.11.44.   I wanted to know if someone could look 
over what I have so far and let me know if it's correct and how I should 
proceed.

So, in the /var/named directory, I create a file called: 
0.117.238.104.in-addr.arpa

The contents of 0.117.238.104.in-addr.arpa are as follows:
$TTL 1D
@   IN SOA  ns1.jetbbs.com. 
spork.jetbbs.com. (
2016071705  ; serial
1D  ; refresh
1H  ; retry
1W  ; expire
3H ); minimum

0.117.238.104.in-addr.arpa.IN  NS  
ns1.jetbbs.com.
0.11.148.132.in-addr.arpa. IN  NS  
ns2.jetbbs.com.

104 IN  PTR franklin.jetbbs.com.
44  IN  PTR franklin.jetbbs.com.


Does that look correct?   If not, how should I change it?   If so, what's the 
next step?   Thank you for your help!

Sincerely,
Ken
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Questions on how to setup Reverse DNS in bind 9

[Spork Schivago]

Hello,

I'm new to operating a website and I'm leasing a virtual private server
(VPS) from GoDaddy.   I'm paying for cPanel / WHM as well.   It's running
CentOS 6.8 Final.  I'd like to setup reverse DNS but I'm having trouble.
I'm not 100% sure how to do it.   I have my hostname, franklin.jetbbs.com
and there's two IP addresses assigned to that hostname, 104.238.117.105
and 132.148.11.44.   I was trying to setup a round robin kinda thing but I
don't think I set it up correctly.

Anyway, I have ns1.jetbbs.com which has the IP of 104.238.117.105   and
then I have ns2.jetbbs.com that has the IP address of 132.148.11.44.   I
wanted to know if someone could look over what I have so far and let me
know if it's correct and how I should proceed.

So, in the /var/named directory, I create a file
called: 0.117.238.104.in-addr.arpa

The contents of 0.117.238.104.in-addr.arpa are as follows:
$TTL 1D
@   IN SOA  ns1.jetbbs.com. spork.jetbbs.com. (
2016071705  ; serial
1D  ; refresh
1H  ; retry
1W  ; expire
3H ); minimum

0.117.238.104.in-addr.arpa.IN  NS  ns1.jetbbs.com.
0.11.148.132.in-addr.arpa. IN  NS  ns2.jetbbs.com.

104 IN  PTR franklin.jetbbs.com.
44  IN  PTR franklin.jetbbs.com.


Does that look correct?   If not, how should I change it?   If so, what's
the next step?   Thank you for your help!

Sincerely,
Ken
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