Re: Bind9 logging options

2010-05-18 Thread Techi
The DNS Servers are authoritive. I have more than 100 users for them, and the 
number of queries performed per minute is very high due to the nature of our 
organization. Moreover, I do not have a specific time window in which the 
timeouts occur, so, it is impossible to run it 24/7! From your answer I 
conclude that there is no such option, correct? 

On Mon 17 of May 2010 16:09:46 you wrote:
 Are the timed out queries recursive or authoritative?
 
 I'd suggest tcpdump running on both the BIND servers and the client, so
 you can match send/receive and show missed packets directly.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Todd.
 
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 Hallo,
 I have a problem in my recursive DNS servers (Bind 9, on RHEL 5).
 Intalled
 package on my system is the latest bind-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 from Red Hat.
 My
 problem is that sometimes, queries are failed with timeouts and that the
 one
 of my 2 DNS servers (the one set as primaryin my users) has 3 time more
 failed
 queries than the secondary, while the succesful queries are almost the
 same. .
 I am almost sure that the problem is network related (hardware or
 software),
 but I need a proof for that. Is there any way to log the timed-out
 queries in
 a log file?
 
 Thank you
 Techi
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Re: Bind9 logging options

2010-05-18 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 17.05.10 13:38, Techi wrote:
 I have a problem in my recursive DNS servers (Bind 9, on RHEL 5). Intalled 
 package on my system is the latest bind-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 from Red Hat. My 
 problem is that sometimes, queries are failed with timeouts and that the one 
 of my 2 DNS servers (the one set as primaryin my users) has 3 time more 
 failed 
 queries than the secondary, while the succesful queries are almost the same. 
 . 
 I am almost sure that the problem is network related (hardware or software), 
 but I need a proof for that. Is there any way to log the timed-out queries in 
 a log file? 

and there is nothing in the bind log files?

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Re: Bind9 logging options

2010-05-18 Thread Techi
No! Log files are indicating any issue! The only indication I have about the 
problem, is the lack if queries in the log files. No timeouts, no failures. I 
even tried to query a fake domain. The result was a normal record (with A+). 
I did not find any error! 
So, how on earth do I log them?

On Tue 18 of May 2010 10:58:53 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
 On 17.05.10 13:38, Techi wrote:
  I have a problem in my recursive DNS servers (Bind 9, on RHEL 5).
  Intalled package on my system is the latest bind-9.3.6-4.P1.el5_4.2 from
  Red Hat. My problem is that sometimes, queries are failed with timeouts
  and that the one of my 2 DNS servers (the one set as primaryin my users)
  has 3 time more failed queries than the secondary, while the succesful
  queries are almost the same. . I am almost sure that the problem is
  network related (hardware or software), but I need a proof for that. Is
  there any way to log the timed-out queries in a log file?
 
 and there is nothing in the bind log files?
 
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Re: Bind9 logging options

2010-05-18 Thread sthaug
 No! Log files are indicating any issue! The only indication I have about the 
 problem, is the lack if queries in the log files. No timeouts, no failures. I 
 even tried to query a fake domain. The result was a normal record (with A+). 
 I did not find any error! 
 So, how on earth do I log them?

Use a packet sniffer (e.g. tcpdump, wireshark) on your DNS servers to
capture the DNS traffic.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no
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Re: Bind9 logging options

2010-05-18 Thread Tomasz Dereszynski

Quoting sth...@nethelp.no:


No! Log files are indicating any issue! The only indication I have about the
problem, is the lack if queries in the log files. No timeouts, no  
failures. I

even tried to query a fake domain. The result was a normal record (with A+).
I did not find any error!
So, how on earth do I log them?


Use a packet sniffer (e.g. tcpdump, wireshark) on your DNS servers to
capture the DNS traffic.



if you set it to capture only 53 port and to save files up to  
reasonable size you can leave it running for 24h without a problem -  
wouldnt recommend doing that without specifying port/service.


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RE: Bind9 logging options

2010-05-18 Thread Todd Snyder

The DNS Servers are authoritive. I have more than 100 users for them,
and the 
number of queries performed per minute is very high due to the nature
of our 
organization. Moreover, I do not have a specific time window in which
the 
timeouts occur, so, it is impossible to run it 24/7! From your answer I

conclude that there is no such option, correct? 

Well, it depends on the reason for the timeouts.  If the packet is
getting lost along the way due to network issues, it would never hit the
server, and you wouldn't have any logs of it.

You could use filters on tcpdump (tcpdump -tt host x.y.z.a  port
53)and setup a script on a remote host to send a stream of queries.  You
don't necessarily have to capture all traffic to troubleshoot the
problem.  Make sure your servers are time sync'd properly so you can
correlate the logs.

Otherwise, if the issue is happening after the packet reaches the
server, then I'd bump up the debug level and turn on a bunch of logging
and make sure ntp is working fine and start watching logs while
generating a bunch of traffic from a test box.

Cheers,

Todd.


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