Re: Question about managed-keys-zone

2016-04-08 Thread Bjoern Kahl
Am 08.04.16 um 16:11 schrieb Bhangui, Sandeep - BLS CTR:
> Thanks Jeremy
> 
> 
> Logging section from named.conf
> 
> logging {
> channel "named-log" {
> file "/usr/local/named-jail9.10.3P4/var/adm/named.log" 
> versions 3 size 30m;

 That is wrong, if your named runs in a chroot jail (guessing from
 "named-jail9.10.3P4" you run it in a jail).

 Assuming your named jail is "/usr/local/named-jail9.10.3P4", you must
 name the file relative to the jail, i.e. "/var/adm/named.log".

 Note the leading "/" in the file name.  When running chroot jailed,
 named set the root "/" of its view of the file system early in startup,
 so all paths need to be specified starting from the new root.


> severity info;
> print-time yes; print-category yes; print-severity yes;
> };
> 
> channel "named-lame" {
> file "/usr/local/named-jail9.10.3P4/var/adm/named.lame" 
> versions 3 size 30m;
> severity info;
> print-time yes; print-category yes; print-severity yes;
> };
> 
> channel "named-querylog" {
> file "/usr/local/named-jail9.10.3P4/var/adm/named.querylog" 
> versions 3 size 30m;
> severity dynamic;
> print-time yes; print-category yes; print-severity yes;
> };
> 
> category "general" { "named-log"; };
> category "security" { "named-log"; };
> category "xfer-in" { "named-log"; };
> category "xfer-out" { "named-log"; };
> category "client" { "named-log"; };
> category "update" { "named-log"; };
> category "lame-servers" { "named-lame"; };
> category "queries" { "named-querylog"; };
> category edns-disabled { null; };
> /* category "delegation-only" { "named-querylog"; }; */
> };
> 
> 
> And yes the directory "/usr/local/named-jail9.10.3P4/var/adm/" exists and the 
> files are thereowned by named:named.
> 
> I know it using rndc is a good practice but is there an option to specify in 
> named.conf to disable it?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeremy C. Reed [mailto:jr...@isc.org] 
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 9:37 AM
> To: Bhangui, Sandeep - BLS CTR <bhangui.sand...@bls.gov>
> Cc: Bind Users Mailing List <bind-users@lists.isc.org>
> Subject: Re: Question about managed-keys-zone
> 
> On Fri, 8 Apr 2016, Bhangui, Sandeep - BLS CTR wrote:
> 
> 
>> '--enable-newstats' '--with-libxml2' '--enable-fullreport' 'CFLAGS=-O2
> 
> Unrelated to your problem, but the --enable-newstats configure switch is not 
> used for BIND 9.10.
> 
>> 1. Cannot seem to start named and it seems that it is looking for some 
>> keys to validation locally.
> 
> (I reordered your email some:)
> 
>> Apr 7 15:15:32 cfdnsquar01 named[37952]: isc_stdio_open 
>> '/usr/local/named-jail9.10.3P4/var/adm/named.log' failed: file not 
>> found Apr 7 15:15:32 cfdnsquar01 named[37952]: configuring logging: 
>> file not found Apr 7 15:15:32 cfdnsquar01 named[37952]: loading 
>> configuration: file not found Apr  7 15:15:32 cfdnsquar01 
>> named[37952]: exiting (due to fatal error)
> 
> Your named cannot start due to logging configuration. You didn't share your 
> configuration elated to it, but does the directory 
> /usr/local/named-jail9.10.3P4/var/adm/ exist?
> 
>  
>> I believe managed-key-zone validation is by default enabled in 
>> Bind..is there an option that I can use in named.conf file to 
>> disable that so that it does not look for the key..I guess this is 
>> just a self-validation on the master itself and has nothing to do with 
>> DNSSEC signing as it seems I am not even able to get the named up...
> 
> Yes, it is unrelated.
> 
>> I guess question is do I have an option that I can specify such that 
>> it will not look for self-validation keys at all so that I do not have 
>> to deal with rndc.key and rndc.conf or is this something I cannot get 
>> by with when I use "views" ? Or am I not understanding this properly?
> 
> The rndc keys (used for connecting to the control interface) are unrelated to 
> the keys used with DNSSEC.  But for operations it is a good idea. See the ARM 
> and/or rndc-confgen manpage about generating the rndc configuration.
> 
> Let's get your named startup working first before we work on your 

RE: Question about managed-keys-zone

2016-04-08 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Fri, 8 Apr 2016, Bhangui, Sandeep - BLS CTR wrote:

> Thanks Jeremy
> 
> 
> Logging section from named.conf
> 
> logging {
> channel "named-log" {
> file "/usr/local/named-jail9.10.3P4/var/adm/named.log" 
> versions 3 size 30m;
...
 
> category "general" { "named-log"; };
...

> And yes the directory "/usr/local/named-jail9.10.3P4/var/adm/" exists 
> and the files are thereowned by named:named.

The error:
  isc_stdio_open '/usr/local/named-jail9.10.3P4/var/adm/named.log' 
  failed: file not found
happens when the directory doesn't exist as one example.

What switches are using to start named?

(The top of the logging output was excluded in previous email which 
should show the "starting BIND 9.10.3-P4" and "built with" lines.)
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RE: Question about managed-keys-zone

2016-04-08 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Fri, 8 Apr 2016, Bhangui, Sandeep - BLS CTR wrote:

> I know it using rndc is a good practice but is there an option to 
> specify in named.conf to disable it?

It is disabled by default because there is no complete command channel 
configuration in the first place, but this will make it so it doesn't 
even try to enable it:

controls { };

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RE: Question about managed-keys-zone

2016-04-08 Thread Bhangui, Sandeep - BLS CTR
Thanks Jeremy


Logging section from named.conf

logging {
channel "named-log" {
file "/usr/local/named-jail9.10.3P4/var/adm/named.log" versions 
3 size 30m;
severity info;
print-time yes; print-category yes; print-severity yes;
};

channel "named-lame" {
file "/usr/local/named-jail9.10.3P4/var/adm/named.lame" 
versions 3 size 30m;
severity info;
print-time yes; print-category yes; print-severity yes;
};

channel "named-querylog" {
file "/usr/local/named-jail9.10.3P4/var/adm/named.querylog" 
versions 3 size 30m;
severity dynamic;
print-time yes; print-category yes; print-severity yes;
};

category "general" { "named-log"; };
category "security" { "named-log"; };
category "xfer-in" { "named-log"; };
category "xfer-out" { "named-log"; };
category "client" { "named-log"; };
category "update" { "named-log"; };
category "lame-servers" { "named-lame"; };
category "queries" { "named-querylog"; };
category edns-disabled { null; };
/* category "delegation-only" { "named-querylog"; }; */
};


And yes the directory "/usr/local/named-jail9.10.3P4/var/adm/" exists and the 
files are thereowned by named:named.

I know it using rndc is a good practice but is there an option to specify in 
named.conf to disable it?

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy C. Reed [mailto:jr...@isc.org] 
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 9:37 AM
To: Bhangui, Sandeep - BLS CTR <bhangui.sand...@bls.gov>
Cc: Bind Users Mailing List <bind-users@lists.isc.org>
Subject: Re: Question about managed-keys-zone

On Fri, 8 Apr 2016, Bhangui, Sandeep - BLS CTR wrote:


> '--enable-newstats' '--with-libxml2' '--enable-fullreport' 'CFLAGS=-O2

Unrelated to your problem, but the --enable-newstats configure switch is not 
used for BIND 9.10.

> 1. Cannot seem to start named and it seems that it is looking for some 
> keys to validation locally.

(I reordered your email some:)

> Apr 7 15:15:32 cfdnsquar01 named[37952]: isc_stdio_open 
> '/usr/local/named-jail9.10.3P4/var/adm/named.log' failed: file not 
> found Apr 7 15:15:32 cfdnsquar01 named[37952]: configuring logging: 
> file not found Apr 7 15:15:32 cfdnsquar01 named[37952]: loading 
> configuration: file not found Apr  7 15:15:32 cfdnsquar01 
> named[37952]: exiting (due to fatal error)

Your named cannot start due to logging configuration. You didn't share your 
configuration elated to it, but does the directory 
/usr/local/named-jail9.10.3P4/var/adm/ exist?

 
> I believe managed-key-zone validation is by default enabled in 
> Bind..is there an option that I can use in named.conf file to 
> disable that so that it does not look for the key..I guess this is 
> just a self-validation on the master itself and has nothing to do with 
> DNSSEC signing as it seems I am not even able to get the named up...

Yes, it is unrelated.

> I guess question is do I have an option that I can specify such that 
> it will not look for self-validation keys at all so that I do not have 
> to deal with rndc.key and rndc.conf or is this something I cannot get 
> by with when I use "views" ? Or am I not understanding this properly?

The rndc keys (used for connecting to the control interface) are unrelated to 
the keys used with DNSSEC.  But for operations it is a good idea. See the ARM 
and/or rndc-confgen manpage about generating the rndc configuration.

Let's get your named startup working first before we work on your goal. 
(If I understand correctly, you want named to serve internally unsigned zones, 
an external appliance will sign the zones, and then named can then serve the 
signed zones publicly.)

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Re: Question about managed-keys-zone

2016-04-08 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Fri, 8 Apr 2016, Bhangui, Sandeep - BLS CTR wrote:


> '--enable-newstats' '--with-libxml2' '--enable-fullreport' 'CFLAGS=-O2 

Unrelated to your problem, but the --enable-newstats configure switch is 
not used for BIND 9.10.

> 1. Cannot seem to start named and it seems that it is looking for some 
> keys to validation locally.

(I reordered your email some:)

> Apr 7 15:15:32 cfdnsquar01 named[37952]: isc_stdio_open 
> '/usr/local/named-jail9.10.3P4/var/adm/named.log' failed: file not 
> found
> Apr 7 15:15:32 cfdnsquar01 named[37952]: configuring logging: file not 
> found
> Apr 7 15:15:32 cfdnsquar01 named[37952]: loading configuration: file 
> not found
> Apr  7 15:15:32 cfdnsquar01 named[37952]: exiting (due to fatal error)

Your named cannot start due to logging configuration. You didn't share 
your configuration elated to it, but does the directory
/usr/local/named-jail9.10.3P4/var/adm/ exist?

 
> I believe managed-key-zone validation is by default enabled in 
> Bind..is there an option that I can use in named.conf file to 
> disable that so that it does not look for the key..I guess this is 
> just a self-validation on the master itself and has nothing to do with 
> DNSSEC signing as it seems I am not even able to get the named up...

Yes, it is unrelated.

> I guess question is do I have an option that I can specify such that 
> it will not look for self-validation keys at all so that I do not have 
> to deal with rndc.key and rndc.conf or is this something I cannot get 
> by with when I use "views" ? Or am I not understanding this properly?

The rndc keys (used for connecting to the control interface) are 
unrelated to the keys used with DNSSEC.  But for operations it is a good 
idea. See the ARM and/or rndc-confgen manpage about generating the rndc 
configuration.

Let's get your named startup working first before we work on your goal. 
(If I understand correctly, you want named to serve internally unsigned 
zones, an external appliance will sign the zones, and then named can 
then serve the signed zones publicly.)
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