Re: query issue

2012-03-29 Thread Anand Buddhdev
On 29/03/2012 17:35, Paul A wrote:

Hi Paul,

 However when I query kingstonmass.org I don't see any returned answer and it
 eventually times out.
 
 11:03:34.310559 2002:c690:8cc6:c:206:5bff:fe8e:334d.54795 
 b2.org.afilias-nst.org.domain:  54297 NS? kingstonmass.org. (34)
 
 Again when querying this with my other DNS server it works fine. On the
 server I'm having issues with I can ping all the pingable org servers and
 the NS servers for the domain in question. 

I notice that the query is going out with an IPv6 source address. Do you
have any firewalls or router ACLs blocking DNS back to IPv6 addresses in
your network?

I also note that kingstonmass.org has delegation to 2 name servers in
the ORG zone, but 3 name servers at its apex. The additional name
server, mns01.domaincontrol.com, gives a REFUSED response to a query for
the domain.

Regards,

Anand Buddhdev
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RE: query issue

2012-03-29 Thread Paul A
Looking further into this I do have an ipv6 on that server, a 6to4 ip (which
I didn't configure and I have to figure out how it got there). 

However I notice sometimes the query goes out as ipv6 6to4 ip and sometimes
as an ipv4 but I'm not sure why that is if anyone can explain why some
queries are sourced from the 6to4 ipv6 instead of the ipv4 ip that would be
great.

Looks like when it goes out as a ipv6 6to4 ip I'm not getting a returned
answers which makes sense because I have no relay routers for ipv6 packets
coming in.  


paul
  
  



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Anand Buddhdev
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:46 AM
To: Paul A
Cc: bind-us...@isc.org
Subject: Re: query issue

On 29/03/2012 17:35, Paul A wrote:

Hi Paul,

 However when I query kingstonmass.org I don't see any returned answer 
 and it eventually times out.
 
 11:03:34.310559 2002:c690:8cc6:c:206:5bff:fe8e:334d.54795 
 b2.org.afilias-nst.org.domain:  54297 NS? kingstonmass.org. (34)
 
 Again when querying this with my other DNS server it works fine. On 
 the server I'm having issues with I can ping all the pingable org 
 servers and the NS servers for the domain in question.

I notice that the query is going out with an IPv6 source address. Do you
have any firewalls or router ACLs blocking DNS back to IPv6 addresses in
your network?

I also note that kingstonmass.org has delegation to 2 name servers in the
ORG zone, but 3 name servers at its apex. The additional name server,
mns01.domaincontrol.com, gives a REFUSED response to a query for the domain.

Regards,

Anand Buddhdev
RIPE NCC
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Re: query issue

2012-03-29 Thread Kevin Darcy

On 3/29/2012 11:45 AM, Anand Buddhdev wrote:

On 29/03/2012 17:35, Paul A wrote:

Hi Paul,


However when I query kingstonmass.org I don't see any returned answer and it
eventually times out.

11:03:34.310559 2002:c690:8cc6:c:206:5bff:fe8e:334d.54795
b2.org.afilias-nst.org.domain:  54297 NS? kingstonmass.org. (34)

Again when querying this with my other DNS server it works fine. On the
server I'm having issues with I can ping all the pingable org servers and
the NS servers for the domain in question.

I notice that the query is going out with an IPv6 source address.
Specifically, a 6to4 address, with 198.144.140.198 (otherwise known as 
c690:8cc6) as the IPv4 endpoint of the tunnel. This was originally 
specified in RFC 3056 (http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc3056.txt), but 
more recently there has been an informational RFC 
(http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6343.txt) enumerating the many 
problems associated with 6to4, and casting doubt on its long-term 
viability as an IPv4-to-IPv6 transition mechanism



- Kevin


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Re: query issue

2012-03-29 Thread SM

At 08:45 29-03-2012, Anand Buddhdev wrote:

I also note that kingstonmass.org has delegation to 2 name servers in
the ORG zone, but 3 name servers at its apex. The additional name
server, mns01.domaincontrol.com, gives a REFUSED response to a query for
the domain.


From mns01.domaincontrol.com:

;; ANSWER SECTION:
kingstonmass.org.   3600IN  NS  mns02.domaincontrol.com.
kingstonmass.org.   3600IN  NS  mns01.domaincontrol.com.

ns1.gis.net and ns2.gis.net return a different answer.

Regards,
-sm 


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RE: query issue

2012-03-29 Thread Paul A
Aside from the NS issue the problem was def related to having an 6to4 ipv6
address on the eth0 interface of my name server. Once I removed that ipv6 ip
all is working well. 


Which leaves me with some questions, 

Does bind try on an ipv6 addr 1st? I suspect it does.

The name servers for the domain below on the whois are ns2/ns1/gis.net so I
should have been querying those servers which don't have ipv6 addr however
they have an NS record in the zone pointing to mns01.domaincontrol.com which
has an ipv6 addr but it's not listed on the whois output. 

Basically im not sure why my queries for kingstonmass.org where being
sourced from an ipv6. 


;; ANSWER SECTION:
kingstonmass.org.   3387IN  NS  ns2.gis.net.
kingstonmass.org.   3387IN  NS  ns1.gis.net.
kingstonmass.org.   3387IN  NS  mns01.domaincontrol.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
mns01.domaincontrol.com. 67665  IN  A   216.69.185.34
mns01.domaincontrol.com. 67665  IN  2607:f208:206::22


thanks Paul



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SM
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:14 PM
To: bind-us...@isc.org
Subject: Re: query issue

At 08:45 29-03-2012, Anand Buddhdev wrote:
I also note that kingstonmass.org has delegation to 2 name servers in 
the ORG zone, but 3 name servers at its apex. The additional name 
server, mns01.domaincontrol.com, gives a REFUSED response to a query 
for the domain.

 From mns01.domaincontrol.com:

;; ANSWER SECTION:
kingstonmass.org.   3600IN  NS  mns02.domaincontrol.com.
kingstonmass.org.   3600IN  NS  mns01.domaincontrol.com.

ns1.gis.net and ns2.gis.net return a different answer.

Regards,
-sm 

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Re: query issue

2012-03-29 Thread Mark Andrews

In message 012901cd0de7$fcf45590$f6dd00b0$@net, Paul A writes:
 Aside from the NS issue the problem was def related to having an 6to4 ipv6
 address on the eth0 interface of my name server. Once I removed that ipv6 ip
 all is working well. 
 
 
 Which leaves me with some questions, 
 
 Does bind try on an ipv6 addr 1st? I suspect it does.

All things being equal, yes it will try IPv6 first.  However most of the
time there is some history and it will make other decisions.
 
 The name servers for the domain below on the whois are ns2/ns1/gis.net so I
 should have been querying those servers which don't have ipv6 addr however
 they have an NS record in the zone pointing to mns01.domaincontrol.com which
 has an ipv6 addr but it's not listed on the whois output. 
 
 Basically im not sure why my queries for kingstonmass.org where being
 sourced from an ipv6. 

The queries are sent to that address because named has learnt that
mns01.domaincontrol.com has a IPv6 address.  mns01.domaincontrol.com
isn't responding to me over IPv6 either.

 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 kingstonmass.org.   3387IN  NS  ns2.gis.net.
 kingstonmass.org.   3387IN  NS  ns1.gis.net.
 kingstonmass.org.   3387IN  NS  mns01.domaincontrol.com.
 
 ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
 mns01.domaincontrol.com. 67665  IN  A   216.69.185.34
 mns01.domaincontrol.com. 67665  IN  2607:f208:206::22
 
 
 thanks Paul
 
 
 
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 From: bind-users-bounces+pamaral=meganet@lists.isc.org
 [mailto:bind-users-bounces+pamaral=meganet@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of
 SM
 Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 1:14 PM
 To: bind-us...@isc.org
 Subject: Re: query issue
 
 At 08:45 29-03-2012, Anand Buddhdev wrote:
 I also note that kingstonmass.org has delegation to 2 name servers in 
 the ORG zone, but 3 name servers at its apex. The additional name 
 server, mns01.domaincontrol.com, gives a REFUSED response to a query 
 for the domain.
 
  From mns01.domaincontrol.com:
 
 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 kingstonmass.org.   3600IN  NS  mns02.domaincontrol.com.
 kingstonmass.org.   3600IN  NS  mns01.domaincontrol.com.
 
 ns1.gis.net and ns2.gis.net return a different answer.
 
 Regards,
 -sm 
 
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