Re: Best way to run Bind on public DNS servers??

2010-01-14 Thread Kaya Saman

Jason Fesler wrote:

On Jan 11, 2010, at 9:39 AM, Kaya Saman wrote:

  
Hi, since I got no responses for this question could I rephrase it to 
asking if Bind will do a zone transfer over public internet if the 
servers have private IP addresses and are behind NAT with static port 
definitions?



Tell bind to slave from the public IP that is forward to the private side.
  


Thanks Jason! Will this work as Bind will examine the packet and will 
have a different IP in the sendto: part


Otherwise is easy if it can actually be done this way :-)

Regards,

Kaya
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Re: Best way to run Bind on public DNS servers??

2010-01-14 Thread Jason Fesler

On Jan 14, 2010, at 3:00 AM, Kaya Saman wrote:

 Thanks Jason! Will this work as Bind will examine the packet and will 
 have a different IP in the sendto: part

If your firewall/NAT is forwarding a public address to your private internal 
address, it will rewrite the packets in order to do so, to reach the private 
internal address.  You can use tcpdump to confirm the traffic seen by either 
dns server.


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Re: Best way to run Bind on public DNS servers??

2010-01-14 Thread Kaya Saman

Jason Fesler wrote:

On Jan 14, 2010, at 3:00 AM, Kaya Saman wrote:

  
Thanks Jason! Will this work as Bind will examine the packet and will 
have a different IP in the sendto: part



If your firewall/NAT is forwarding a public address to your private internal 
address, it will rewrite the packets in order to do so, to reach the private 
internal address.  You can use tcpdump to confirm the traffic seen by either 
dns server.

  


Many thanks Jason for the support! Since everyone has mentioned I can do 
this I'm certain it will be a swift an easy job for my migration!


Best regards,

Kaya
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Re: Best way to run Bind on public DNS servers??

2010-01-13 Thread Jason Fesler

On Jan 11, 2010, at 9:39 AM, Kaya Saman wrote:

 Hi, since I got no responses for this question could I rephrase it to 
 asking if Bind will do a zone transfer over public internet if the 
 servers have private IP addresses and are behind NAT with static port 
 definitions?

Tell bind to slave from the public IP that is forward to the private side.

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Re: Best way to run Bind on public DNS servers??

2010-01-11 Thread Kaya Saman

Kaya Saman wrote:

Hi all,

this is the first time I'm going to be playing around with a setup 
like this so I'd like to get some advice:


I would like to run a master/slave configuration of Bind servers but 
am confused about how to implement such a setup and the underlying 
network fabric involved!!


First up, currently in my lab I am running an authoritative DNS server 
through NAT so when people make queries it goes through port 53 on my 
Cisco 857's ADSL interface then reaches the server with an internal 
private IP address.


I know that I can use 2 different public IP addresses and implement 
this via NAT opening up static NAT definitions from both WAN IP's to 
internal private IP's of the servers; however. is this the best 
practice or should I give the servers public addresses on one of their 
NICs then run the named service from their???


I plan to upgrade to a Cisco 1800 series which has two routable ports 
in either Ethernet or ADSL and Ethernet configurations and has a 
managed 8 port switch which I am sure can be included to be outside 
the NAT making it easy to tie the servers in to the network.


I've never dealt with a setup like this before as everything I've done 
so far has been behind NAT so I'm a little confused about how to go 
about it. I know this is probably more of a thing for the Cisco 
Netpro forum but since I am going to be dealing with Bind there maybe 
a way I can get around with NAT depending on what the experts or more 
experienced people say!


Many thanks for any responses!

Best regards,

Kaya


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Hi, since I got no responses for this question could I rephrase it to 
asking if Bind will do a zone transfer over public internet if the 
servers have private IP addresses and are behind NAT with static port 
definitions?


Regards,

Kaya

P.s. as an extra what or how is the best way to learn about DNS? Of 
course on this mailing list there are many pros and knowledgeable people 
but for someone like me who is keen and enthusiastic but hasn't had the 
opportunity to work for a company that deals in DNS, network design or 
data centers I find myself with more questions then answers! Basically 
no professional experience is what's holding me back I feel - Thanks

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Re: Best way to run Bind on public DNS servers??

2010-01-09 Thread Kaya Saman
Sorry, just to mention in addition that I currently run a master/slave 
configuration for internal DNS queries within the NAT! Since the current 
location of servers has only one static IP available I have only exposed 
one of the servers to the web but in the new location I plan to get as 
many IP addresses as needed so that each one of my servers has it's own 
public IP!



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