Re: DNSSEC validation works with DLV, but not with just trusted-key

2009-11-25 Thread Alan Clegg

Hanno Böck wrote:


dig baddata-A.test.dnssec-tools.org @localhost


There is no DS record for dnssec-tools.org in .org (chain of trust is 
broken), so you can't validate the response -- thus the data being 
passed back to you.


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Re: DNSSEC validation works with DLV, but not with just trusted-key

2009-11-25 Thread Hanno Böck
Am Mittwoch 25 November 2009 schrieb Alan Clegg:
 There is no DS record for dnssec-tools.org in .org (chain of trust is
 broken), so you can't validate the response -- thus the data being
 passed back to you.

Ok, that explains it.

Are there any example domains with known-broken dnssec records with a full 
trust chain?

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Re: DNSSEC validation works with DLV, but not with just trusted-key

2009-11-25 Thread Alan Clegg

Hanno Böck wrote:

Am Mittwoch 25 November 2009 schrieb Alan Clegg:

There is no DS record for dnssec-tools.org in .org (chain of trust is
broken), so you can't validate the response -- thus the data being
passed back to you.


Ok, that explains it.

Are there any example domains with known-broken dnssec records with a full 
trust chain?


I've been meaning to set some up, but at this moment, I'm not aware of any.

Setting up your trust-anchor with the DNSKEY from dnssec-tools.org would 
be only one level worse than using the DNSKEY from .org


Setting up validator using the key from dnssec-tools.org should be able 
to prove your point...


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Re: DNSSEC validation works with DLV, but not with just trusted-key

2009-11-25 Thread Mark Andrews

Or one could use DLV to provide the trust linkage.

dnssec-tools.org.dlv.isc.org. 3499 IN   DLV 54556 5 1 
11A4026F4E09B1C106AAF3AC81A37AA537B8A3E6
dnssec-tools.org.dlv.isc.org. 3499 IN   DLV 54556 5 2 
6B026928292D452A5CC37B3EF327F27F50A29936CB31E664EB066D71 A476E282

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Re: DNSSEC validation works with DLV, but not with just trusted-key

2009-11-25 Thread Mark Andrews

In message 200911252202.napm2asg000...@drugs.dv.isc.org, Mark Andrews writes:
 
 Or one could use DLV to provide the trust linkage.
 
 dnssec-tools.org.dlv.isc.org. 3499 IN   DLV 54556 5 1 
 11A4026F4E09B1C106AAF3AC81A37AA537B8A3E6
 dnssec-tools.org.dlv.isc.org. 3499 IN   DLV 54556 5 2 
 6B026928292D452A5CC37B3EF327F27F50A29936CB31E664EB066D71 A476E
 282

Should have read the subject more closely. :-)

In any case as Alan said, there needs to be a trusted path from a
trust anchor to the data.  DLV provides that trusted path.  ORG
will soon once they leave the friends and family stage.

Mark
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