Re: lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving

2023-01-27 Thread Darren Ankney
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 3:26 AM duluxoz  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Sorry for asking what is almost certainly a "noob" question, but I'm
> seeing a lot of "lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving
> './NS/IN':" messages in our auth_servers.log for the DNS Root Servers'
> IPv4 addresses. Is this normal, or do we have an issue that we need to
> resolve.
>
> Thanks for the feedback
>
> Cheers
>
> Dulux-Oz
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It doesn't sound normal.  What version of BIND are you running?
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Re: "lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving ..."

2020-04-17 Thread btb via bind-users
thanks-

we're running 9.14.8, courtesy of the isc ubuntu ppa 
[https://launchpad.net/~isc]:

>named -v
BIND 9.14.8-Ubuntu (Stable Release) 

>dpkg -s bind9
Package: bind9
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: net
Installed-Size: 872
Maintainer: Debian DNS Team 
Architecture: amd64
Version: 1:9.14.8-1+ubuntu19.10.1+isc+1
Replaces: bind (<< 1:9.13.6~)
[...]
Homepage: https://www.isc.org/downloads/bind/

does that mean in theory the version we're running would be new enough we 
shouldn't be seeing that particular symptom?

thanks

> On Apr 17, 2020, at 19.01, Mark Andrews  wrote:
> 
> They are almost certainly the result of running an older version of named and 
> packet loss
> causing named to fallback to plain DNS which doesn’t return DNSSEC records.  
> Newer versions
> of named don’t fallback to plain DNS on packet loss.
> 
> 5029.   [func]  Workarounds for servers that misbehave when queried
>with EDNS have been removed, because these broken
>servers and the workarounds for their noncompliance
>cause unnecessary delays, increase code complexity,
>and prevent deployment of new DNS features. See
>https://dnsflagday.net for further details. [GL #150]
> 
> BIND 9.14.0 is the first non development version with this behaviour.
> 
> Mark
> 
>> On 18 Apr 2020, at 01:24, btb via bind-users  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> hi-
>> 
>> i'm seeing what i'm wondering if is a lot of "lame-servers: info: no valid 
>> RRSIG resolving ..." messages in the logs [on average ~500 messages per 
>> day].  a small snippet:
>> 
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:11:46.057 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'jwplayer.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:11:46.150 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'tranet.net/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:11:47.559 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'inboxsdk.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:11:49.146 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'basis.net/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:11:58.474 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'starfinancial.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:11:59.665 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'vice.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:09.501 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'lithium.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:09.756 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'sc-static.net/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:10.004 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'snapchat.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:12.638 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'yimg.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:16.823 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'transamerica.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:16.932 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'quantummetric.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:17.129 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'tealiumiq.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:17.171 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'bounceexchange.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:22.971 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'mwefinancial.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:23.248 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'redditmedia.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:23.869 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'imtwjwoasak.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:25.189 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'b.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:25.313 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'jquery.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:26.555 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'forter.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:29.008 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'quovadisoffshore.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:29.029 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'quovadisglobal.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:29.974 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'mixpanel.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:35.786 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'spotify.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:36.982 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'freeform.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:38.295 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'edgedatg.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:58.190 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'footprintdns.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:13:01.282 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'qualifiedaddress.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 18:13:01.744 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
>> 'dc-msedge.net/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
>> 15-Apr-2020 

Re: "lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving ..."

2020-04-17 Thread Mark Andrews
They are almost certainly the result of running an older version of named and 
packet loss
causing named to fallback to plain DNS which doesn’t return DNSSEC records.  
Newer versions
of named don’t fallback to plain DNS on packet loss.

5029.   [func]  Workarounds for servers that misbehave when queried
with EDNS have been removed, because these broken
servers and the workarounds for their noncompliance
cause unnecessary delays, increase code complexity,
and prevent deployment of new DNS features. See
https://dnsflagday.net for further details. [GL #150]

BIND 9.14.0 is the first non development version with this behaviour.

Mark

> On 18 Apr 2020, at 01:24, btb via bind-users  wrote:
> 
> hi-
> 
> i'm seeing what i'm wondering if is a lot of "lame-servers: info: no valid 
> RRSIG resolving ..." messages in the logs [on average ~500 messages per day]. 
>  a small snippet:
> 
> 15-Apr-2020 18:11:46.057 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'jwplayer.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:11:46.150 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'tranet.net/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:11:47.559 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'inboxsdk.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:11:49.146 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'basis.net/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:11:58.474 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'starfinancial.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:11:59.665 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'vice.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:09.501 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'lithium.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:09.756 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'sc-static.net/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:10.004 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'snapchat.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:12.638 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'yimg.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:16.823 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'transamerica.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:16.932 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'quantummetric.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:17.129 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'tealiumiq.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:17.171 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'bounceexchange.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:22.971 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'mwefinancial.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:23.248 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'redditmedia.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:23.869 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'imtwjwoasak.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:25.189 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'b.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:25.313 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'jquery.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:26.555 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'forter.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:29.008 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'quovadisoffshore.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:29.029 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'quovadisglobal.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:29.974 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'mixpanel.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:35.786 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'spotify.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:36.982 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'freeform.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:38.295 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'edgedatg.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:58.190 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'footprintdns.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:13:01.282 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'qualifiedaddress.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:13:01.744 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'dc-msedge.net/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:14:54.009 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'facebook.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:16:20.039 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'pphosted.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 
> a number of these [most?] are zones that are signed, and some don't even 
> exist, so i'm curious about seeing these messages.  what am i not 
> understanding, and/or what can i do to troubleshoot further?
> 
> thanks!
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Re: "lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving ..."

2020-04-17 Thread Sten Carlsen
I see lots of lines like this. They all come from people trying to break into 
my SSH.

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> On 17 Apr 2020, at 17.24, btb via bind-users  wrote:
> 
> hi-
> 
> i'm seeing what i'm wondering if is a lot of "lame-servers: info: no valid 
> RRSIG resolving ..." messages in the logs [on average ~500 messages per day]. 
>  a small snippet:
> 
> 15-Apr-2020 18:11:46.057 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'jwplayer.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:11:46.150 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'tranet.net/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:11:47.559 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'inboxsdk.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:11:49.146 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'basis.net/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:11:58.474 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'starfinancial.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:11:59.665 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'vice.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:09.501 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'lithium.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:09.756 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'sc-static.net/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:10.004 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'snapchat.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:12.638 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'yimg.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:16.823 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'transamerica.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:16.932 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'quantummetric.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:17.129 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'tealiumiq.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:17.171 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'bounceexchange.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:22.971 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'mwefinancial.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:23.248 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'redditmedia.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:23.869 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'imtwjwoasak.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:25.189 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'b.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:25.313 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'jquery.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:26.555 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'forter.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:29.008 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'quovadisoffshore.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:29.029 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'quovadisglobal.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:29.974 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'mixpanel.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:35.786 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'spotify.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:36.982 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'freeform.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:38.295 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'edgedatg.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:12:58.190 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'footprintdns.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:13:01.282 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'qualifiedaddress.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:13:01.744 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'dc-msedge.net/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:14:54.009 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'facebook.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 15-Apr-2020 18:16:20.039 lame-servers: info: no valid RRSIG resolving 
> 'pphosted.com/DS/IN': 192.5.6.30#53
> 
> a number of these [most?] are zones that are signed, and some don't even 
> exist, so i'm curious about seeing these messages.  what am i not 
> understanding, and/or what can i do to troubleshoot further?
> 
> thanks!
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