Re: Release Strategy Clarification

2018-04-28 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On 26 April 2018 at 13:42, Victoria Risk  wrote:

>
>
> You have correctly interpreted the chart in the blog post, but you don’t
> have to update in January, just when there is a bug you need a fix for.  If
> that bug is a security bug, the red block means, we will issue a security
> patch even though we are no longer issuing regular maintenance on that
> branch. So, effectively there is a quarter, 3 months, of overlap.
>
> Thanks for the clarification, Vicky.   It sounds like ISC and I have
different definitions of "no longer supported." :)Perhaps I could
suggest that the descriptive text for that stage be updated to indicate
that there is limited support (for security related bugs) during that stage.

Matt
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Re: Release Strategy Clarification

2018-04-26 Thread Victoria Risk


> On Apr 26, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Matthew Pounsett  wrote:
> 
> This is a question for ISC about the new BIND release plan which I thought 
> might be a useful clarification for others as well.
> 
> I didn't notice this when the new plan was first presented in March, but the 
> key text in the legend of the Example Release Plan[0] for the red blocks is 
> "a release that is no longer supported."  This implies that 9.12 will go from 
> being the most recent supported stable version of BIND to unsupported 
> literally overnight.  It doesn't appear there is a period where 9.12 and 9.14 
> are both supported, as 9.12 approaches end of life.
> 
> Is this an oversight, where the legend text needs updating to "a release that 
> is approaching end of life," or do we really all have to plan to do our 
> upgrades on January 1st every year?

Hi Matt,

You have correctly interpreted the chart in the blog post, but you don’t have 
to update in January, just when there is a bug you need a fix for.  If that bug 
is a security bug, the red block means, we will issue a security patch even 
though we are no longer issuing regular maintenance on that branch. So, 
effectively there is a quarter, 3 months, of overlap.

We want to do much more frequent releases, with new branches every year. We 
can’t create more branches AND support all of them for years like we used to. 
We believe that if the delta from one version to another is smaller, because 
the releases are closer together, then if you are say, running 9.12.3, and you 
want a bug fix, and we put that bug fix into 9.14.0, that will not be a big 
leap to upgrade to that.

Not everyone wants to update every year though, and that is why we also have 
the Extended Support Version. We are committed to supporting 9.11.x through the 
end of 2021. That will allow people to stay on that branch for something like 5 
years, which seems like plenty.  

It is true that you have to make a choice about whether to hang out with the 
ESV or follow the annual stable releases.

Vicky

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Release Strategy Clarification

2018-04-26 Thread Matthew Pounsett
This is a question for ISC about the new BIND release plan which I thought
might be a useful clarification for others as well.

I didn't notice this when the new plan was first presented in March, but
the key text in the legend of the Example Release Plan[0] for the red
blocks is "a release that is no longer supported."  This implies that 9.12
will go from being the most recent supported stable version of BIND to
unsupported literally overnight.  It doesn't appear there is a period where
9.12 and 9.14 are both supported, as 9.12 approaches end of life.

Is this an oversight, where the legend text needs updating to "a release
that is approaching end of life," or do we really all have to plan to do
our upgrades on January 1st every year?

Thanks,
   Matt


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