Using a different domain name as the DNS server for a domain
Hi, I'm wondering if it's possible in Bind like my domain providers DNS servers to use a different domain as the name server ns record for another domain?? Excuse the horrific explanation I will try to describe what I mean: I am about to start hosting a domain called birimgrup.com in my network but do not wish to create a sub domain as ns.birimgrup.com; instead I would like to use my own domain which is called optiplex-networks.com as the ns server, meaning ns1.optiplex-networks.com: as example: dig optiplex-networks.com ; DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5 optiplex-networks.com ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 48891 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;optiplex-networks.com.INA ;; ANSWER SECTION: optiplex-networks.com.86400INA192.168.1.150 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: optiplex-networks.com.86400INNSns1.optiplex-networks.com. optiplex-networks.com.86400INNSns2.optiplex-networks.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns1.optiplex-networks.com. 86400 INA192.168.1.100 ns2.optiplex-networks.com. 86400 INA192.168.1.101 ;; Query time: 21 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.100#53(192.168.1.100) ;; WHEN: Tue Dec 1 19:03:00 2009 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 123 So practically when someone does a dig for birimgrup.com it will come out of ns1.optiplex-networks.com!! Can this be done? I am assuming that I could create a zone with record: birimgrup in a ns1.optiplex-networks.com but I am just wondering if it will complain that the data is out of zone?? As a quick addition also I have never dealt with .net .org etc TLD's before when setting up DNS so I'm assuming that for reverse DNS the PTR records will simply go into the 192.168.1.rev file I have setup?? Many thanks in advance! --Kaya ___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Using a different domain name as the DNS server for a domain
You can create the NS record as you have described (type = NS, not A), but remember to put a dot on the end: birimgrup.com. in NS ns1.optiplex-networks.com. This is quite common. Here are some real-world examples: com.IN NS a.gtld-servers.net. menandmice.com. IN NS ns0.c.is. As for reverse records, these are indexed by the IP address, not be the domain name on the right hand side. Your PTR records will go in the reverse zone you already have. Chris Buxton Professional Services Men Mice On Dec 1, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Kaya Saman wrote: Hi, I'm wondering if it's possible in Bind like my domain providers DNS servers to use a different domain as the name server ns record for another domain?? Excuse the horrific explanation I will try to describe what I mean: I am about to start hosting a domain called birimgrup.com in my network but do not wish to create a sub domain as ns.birimgrup.com; instead I would like to use my own domain which is called optiplex-networks.com as the ns server, meaning ns1.optiplex-networks.com: as example: dig optiplex-networks.com ; DiG 9.3.6-P1-RedHat-9.3.6-4.P1.el5 optiplex-networks.com ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 48891 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;optiplex-networks.com.INA ;; ANSWER SECTION: optiplex-networks.com.86400INA192.168.1.150 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: optiplex-networks.com.86400INNSns1.optiplex-networks.com. optiplex-networks.com.86400INNSns2.optiplex-networks.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns1.optiplex-networks.com. 86400 INA192.168.1.100 ns2.optiplex-networks.com. 86400 INA192.168.1.101 ;; Query time: 21 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.100#53(192.168.1.100) ;; WHEN: Tue Dec 1 19:03:00 2009 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 123 So practically when someone does a dig for birimgrup.com it will come out of ns1.optiplex-networks.com!! Can this be done? I am assuming that I could create a zone with record: birimgrup in a ns1.optiplex-networks.com but I am just wondering if it will complain that the data is out of zone?? As a quick addition also I have never dealt with .net .org etc TLD's before when setting up DNS so I'm assuming that for reverse DNS the PTR records will simply go into the 192.168.1.rev file I have setup?? Many thanks in advance! --Kaya ___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users ___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Using a different domain name as the DNS server for a domain
Ok I think I have got somewhere but still a bit unsure of what's going on!! dig birimgrup.com ; DiG 9.6.0-P1 birimgrup.com ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 567 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;birimgrup.com. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: birimgrup.com. 86400 IN A 192.168.1.170 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: birimgrup.com. 86400 IN NS ns2.optiplex-networks.com. birimgrup.com. 86400 IN NS ns1.optiplex-networks.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns1.optiplex-networks.com. 86400 IN A 192.168.1.100 ns2.optiplex-networks.com. 86400 IN A 192.168.1.101 ;; Query time: 7 msec ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) ;; WHEN: Tue Dec 1 19:31:53 2009 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 133 On top of that my zone file looks like so: ; ; BIND data file for example.com ; $TTL1d @ IN SOA ns1.optiplex-networks.com. mail.optiplex-networks.com. ( 2009120101 ; Serial 7200 ; Refresh 120 ; Retry 2419200 ; Expire 86400); Default TTL ; IN NS ns1.optiplex-networks.com. IN NS ns2.optiplex-networks.com. ns1.optiplex-networks.com. IN A 192.168.1.100 ns2.optiplex-networks.com. IN A 192.168.1.101 birimgrup.com. IN A 192.168.1.170 www.birimgrup.com. IN A 192.168.1.170 However as I thought I have ignoring out of zone data error in my log. Dec 1 19:31:16 NetraT1-RAY named[3646]: [ID 873579 daemon.warning] /var/named/birimgrup.db:14: ignoring out-of-zone data (ns1.optiplex-networks.com) Dec 1 19:31:16 NetraT1-RAY named[3646]: [ID 873579 daemon.warning] /var/named/birimgrup.db:15: ignoring out-of-zone data (ns2.optiplex-networks.com) Since line 14 and 15 are: ns1.optiplex-networks.com. IN A 192.168.1.100 and ns2.optiplex-networks.com. IN A 192.168.1.101 respectively I think I can remove them and all will be fine! ___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Using a different domain name as the DNS server for a domain
Many thanks for the response Chris As you where writing and sending this I sort of worked it out but this makes things much clearer :-) I really do appreciate all the help! --Kaya Chris Buxton wrote: You can create the NS record as you have described (type = NS, not A), but remember to put a dot on the end: birimgrup.com. in NS ns1.optiplex-networks.com. This is quite common. Here are some real-world examples: com.IN NS a.gtld-servers.net. menandmice.com. IN NS ns0.c.is. As for reverse records, these are indexed by the IP address, not be the domain name on the right hand side. Your PTR records will go in the reverse zone you already have. Chris Buxton Professional Services Men Mice On Dec 1, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Kaya Saman wrote: ___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Using a different domain name as the DNS server for a domain
Chris Buxton wrote: Yes, remove the A records for the name servers. They shouldn't be here - they belong in the zone named optiplex-networks.com. Also, the last line of your zone looks quite odd. You should never have an IP address on the left side of a DNS record. Chris Buxton Professional Services Men Mice On Dec 1, 2009, at 9:35 AM, Kaya Saman wrote: Chris if you're referring to this: birimgrup.com. IN A 192.168.1.170 www.birimgrup.com. IN A 192.168.1.170 It didn't come out right on the email the actual version is like so: birimgrup.com. IN A 192.168.1.170 www.birimgrup.com. IN A 192.168.1.170 ___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Using a different domain name as the DNS server for a domain
birimgrup.com. IN A 192.168.1.170 www.birimgrup.com. IN A 192.168.1.170 ___ ok this is really weird! In the actual zone file they are stacked on top of each other like supposed to be! Either Seamonkey isn't formatting my emails properly or it's something to do with my SSH tunnel into the UK right now.. probably cat command is my bet. ___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
Re: Using a different domain name as the DNS server for a domain
Yes, remove the A records for the name servers. They shouldn't be here - they belong in the zone named optiplex-networks.com. Also, the last line of your zone looks quite odd. You should never have an IP address on the left side of a DNS record. Chris Buxton Professional Services Men Mice On Dec 1, 2009, at 9:35 AM, Kaya Saman wrote: Ok I think I have got somewhere but still a bit unsure of what's going on!! dig birimgrup.com ; DiG 9.6.0-P1 birimgrup.com ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 567 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;birimgrup.com. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: birimgrup.com. 86400 IN A 192.168.1.170 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: birimgrup.com. 86400 IN NS ns2.optiplex-networks.com. birimgrup.com. 86400 IN NS ns1.optiplex-networks.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns1.optiplex-networks.com. 86400 IN A 192.168.1.100 ns2.optiplex-networks.com. 86400 IN A 192.168.1.101 ;; Query time: 7 msec ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) ;; WHEN: Tue Dec 1 19:31:53 2009 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 133 On top of that my zone file looks like so: ; ; BIND data file for example.com ; $TTL1d @ IN SOA ns1.optiplex-networks.com. mail.optiplex-networks.com. ( 2009120101 ; Serial 7200 ; Refresh 120 ; Retry 2419200 ; Expire 86400); Default TTL ; IN NS ns1.optiplex-networks.com. IN NS ns2.optiplex-networks.com. ns1.optiplex-networks.com. IN A 192.168.1.100 ns2.optiplex-networks.com. IN A 192.168.1.101 birimgrup.com. IN A 192.168.1.170 www.birimgrup.com. IN A 192.168.1.170 However as I thought I have ignoring out of zone data error in my log. Dec 1 19:31:16 NetraT1-RAY named[3646]: [ID 873579 daemon.warning] /var/named/birimgrup.db:14: ignoring out-of-zone data (ns1.optiplex-networks.com) Dec 1 19:31:16 NetraT1-RAY named[3646]: [ID 873579 daemon.warning] /var/named/birimgrup.db:15: ignoring out-of-zone data (ns2.optiplex-networks.com) Since line 14 and 15 are: ns1.optiplex-networks.com. IN A 192.168.1.100 and ns2.optiplex-networks.com. IN A 192.168.1.101 respectively I think I can remove them and all will be fine! ___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users ___ bind-users mailing list bind-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users
