Re: limiting number of recursion/queries per IP address

2010-11-09 Thread Dmitry Rybin
This is not good idea to use statefull firewall on heavy loaded DNS
server. firewall becomes low place in the system.

As workaround you can use dns_flood_detector + simple script to insert
and remove IP's from firewall blocking table or chain.

27.10.2010 23:26, Sebastian Tymków пишет:
 In FreeBSD you can use pf to limit connections using tables and setting
 up rate limit.
 
 http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=1727
 
 Best regards,
 
 Shamrock
 
 On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Kebba Foon kebba.f...@qcell.gm
 mailto:kebba.f...@qcell.gm wrote:
 
 On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 15:22 -0400, Todd Snyder wrote:
  What version of bind, on what OS?
 
 I use Debian 5.0 with bind 9.6-ESV-R1 but also i thought that the OS
 might have some security holes so i try FreeBSD 8.1 with BIND 9.7.1 but
 still have ihave the same problems.
 
  here may be some things you can do with iptables to limit connections
 
  http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/187
 
 i will just look into these but it done thing iptables will be the ideal
 solution.
  I don't recall seeing anything native to BIND that would allow for
 limits per src.
 
  t.
 
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  Subject: limiting number of recursion/queries per IP address
 
  Dear List,
 
  Is is possible to limit the number of recursion/queries per IP
 address.
  there is some kind of virus thats bombarding my dns servers with a lot
  of queries, i realize that when ever the total number of recursion
  clients reach 1000 dns resolution stop working. i have increase the
  recursive-clients to 1 but still these those not help. and also i
  have increase the number of max open files on my OS which at one point
  was complaining about too many open files. can someone please
 direct me
  to how best to solve this problem its some kind of DDOS.
 
  Thanks
  Kebba
 
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Re: limiting number of recursion/queries per IP address

2010-10-27 Thread Sebastian Tymków
In FreeBSD you can use pf to limit connections using tables and setting up
rate limit.

http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=1727

Best regards,

Shamrock

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Kebba Foon kebba.f...@qcell.gm wrote:

 On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 15:22 -0400, Todd Snyder wrote:
  What version of bind, on what OS?
 
 I use Debian 5.0 with bind 9.6-ESV-R1 but also i thought that the OS
 might have some security holes so i try FreeBSD 8.1 with BIND 9.7.1 but
 still have ihave the same problems.

  here may be some things you can do with iptables to limit connections
 
  http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/187
 
 i will just look into these but it done thing iptables will be the ideal
 solution.
  I don't recall seeing anything native to BIND that would allow for limits
 per src.
 
  t.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: bind-users-bounces+tsnyder=rim@lists.isc.org [mailto:
 bind-users-bounces+tsnyder bind-users-bounces%2Btsnyder=rim.com@
 lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Kebba Foon
  Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 2:27 PM
  To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
  Subject: limiting number of recursion/queries per IP address
 
  Dear List,
 
  Is is possible to limit the number of recursion/queries per IP address.
  there is some kind of virus thats bombarding my dns servers with a lot
  of queries, i realize that when ever the total number of recursion
  clients reach 1000 dns resolution stop working. i have increase the
  recursive-clients to 1 but still these those not help. and also i
  have increase the number of max open files on my OS which at one point
  was complaining about too many open files. can someone please direct me
  to how best to solve this problem its some kind of DDOS.
 
  Thanks
  Kebba
 
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limiting number of recursion/queries per IP address

2010-10-26 Thread Kebba Foon
Dear List,

Is is possible to limit the number of recursion/queries per IP address.
there is some kind of virus thats bombarding my dns servers with a lot
of queries, i realize that when ever the total number of recursion
clients reach 1000 dns resolution stop working. i have increase the
recursive-clients to 1 but still these those not help. and also i
have increase the number of max open files on my OS which at one point
was complaining about too many open files. can someone please direct me
to how best to solve this problem its some kind of DDOS.

Thanks
Kebba

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RE: limiting number of recursion/queries per IP address

2010-10-26 Thread Todd Snyder
What version of bind, on what OS?

There may be some things you can do with iptables to limit connections

http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/187

I don't recall seeing anything native to BIND that would allow for limits per 
src.

t.

-Original Message-
From: bind-users-bounces+tsnyder=rim@lists.isc.org 
[mailto:bind-users-bounces+tsnyder=rim@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Kebba 
Foon
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 2:27 PM
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: limiting number of recursion/queries per IP address

Dear List,

Is is possible to limit the number of recursion/queries per IP address.
there is some kind of virus thats bombarding my dns servers with a lot
of queries, i realize that when ever the total number of recursion
clients reach 1000 dns resolution stop working. i have increase the
recursive-clients to 1 but still these those not help. and also i
have increase the number of max open files on my OS which at one point
was complaining about too many open files. can someone please direct me
to how best to solve this problem its some kind of DDOS.

Thanks
Kebba

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RE: limiting number of recursion/queries per IP address

2010-10-26 Thread Kebba Foon
On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 15:22 -0400, Todd Snyder wrote:
 What version of bind, on what OS?
 
I use Debian 5.0 with bind 9.6-ESV-R1 but also i thought that the OS
might have some security holes so i try FreeBSD 8.1 with BIND 9.7.1 but
still have ihave the same problems.

 here may be some things you can do with iptables to limit connections
 
 http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/187
 
i will just look into these but it done thing iptables will be the ideal
solution.
 I don't recall seeing anything native to BIND that would allow for limits per 
 src.
 
 t.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: bind-users-bounces+tsnyder=rim@lists.isc.org 
 [mailto:bind-users-bounces+tsnyder=rim@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Kebba 
 Foon
 Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 2:27 PM
 To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
 Subject: limiting number of recursion/queries per IP address
 
 Dear List,
 
 Is is possible to limit the number of recursion/queries per IP address.
 there is some kind of virus thats bombarding my dns servers with a lot
 of queries, i realize that when ever the total number of recursion
 clients reach 1000 dns resolution stop working. i have increase the
 recursive-clients to 1 but still these those not help. and also i
 have increase the number of max open files on my OS which at one point
 was complaining about too many open files. can someone please direct me
 to how best to solve this problem its some kind of DDOS.
 
 Thanks
 Kebba
 
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RE: limiting number of recursion/queries per IP address

2010-10-26 Thread Lightner, Jeff
iptables is available in most Linux distros and it is definitely better
to block things there than in BIND itself.

I don't know that BIND has a rate limiter.  It DOES have a blacklist
option where you can completely block a site's access to it but as noted
above it is better to do it in iptables or firewall because then it
never gets to BIND in the first place.

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Of Kebba Foon
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 3:29 PM
To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
Subject: RE: limiting number of recursion/queries per IP address

On Tue, 2010-10-26 at 15:22 -0400, Todd Snyder wrote:
 What version of bind, on what OS?
 
I use Debian 5.0 with bind 9.6-ESV-R1 but also i thought that the OS
might have some security holes so i try FreeBSD 8.1 with BIND 9.7.1 but
still have ihave the same problems.

 here may be some things you can do with iptables to limit connections
 
 http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/187
 
i will just look into these but it done thing iptables will be the ideal
solution.
 I don't recall seeing anything native to BIND that would allow for
limits per src.
 
 t.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: bind-users-bounces+tsnyder=rim@lists.isc.org
[mailto:bind-users-bounces+tsnyder=rim@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of
Kebba Foon
 Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 2:27 PM
 To: bind-users@lists.isc.org
 Subject: limiting number of recursion/queries per IP address
 
 Dear List,
 
 Is is possible to limit the number of recursion/queries per IP
address.
 there is some kind of virus thats bombarding my dns servers with a lot
 of queries, i realize that when ever the total number of recursion
 clients reach 1000 dns resolution stop working. i have increase the
 recursive-clients to 1 but still these those not help. and also i
 have increase the number of max open files on my OS which at one point
 was complaining about too many open files. can someone please direct
me
 to how best to solve this problem its some kind of DDOS.
 
 Thanks
 Kebba
 
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