Re: reverse zone file in external view not transferring to slaveserver??

2009-12-02 Thread Kaya Saman
Thanks guys, sorry needed some down time to recharge my batteries - am 
gona combine all answers into one lump mail :-)




Frank Pikelner wrote:
Do your bind logs give any clues as to what is going on? On the master 
make sure you have read permission and the file is being loaded. On 
the slave it should be attempting a transfer.


Frank Pikelner

On 2009-12-01, at 6:21 PM, Kaya Saman samank...@netscape.net wrote:



Unfortunately the only place I can find anything to do with Bind 
log-wise is in /var/adm/messages there is no specific /var/log/bind 
or named log like in Linux with my system or it is in such a weird place 
I haven't found it yet! I've also tried looking for it several times but 
never managed to find it.




What do you mean the Blastwave version?

I've got BIND 9.6.0-P1 running on Solaris 9 with patches that are
current as of Sept 2008... My version was, however, compiled on the
machine it is running on though. See domain hicks-net.net or
hicks-net.org... Two of my nameservers are external. I believe that
the 'external' view transfers...


Gregory,

http://www.blastwave.org/


pkg repo for Solaris/OpenSolaris, kind of similar to yum or apt-get for 
Linux.



external views transfer but just not the reverse? But then since my 
network only has 1 single WAN IP I am trying to transfer everything 
internally through the intranet using local IP's and wondering if some 
issues could be there?



type master;
   allow-transfer { other.servers.ip.addresses; };
perhaps?

I tend to do
options {
   ...
   allow-transfer {none;};
   ...
};

But this wouldn't explain why all the rest can transfer and the one zone
can't.

Have you made sure that the slaved copies for the internal view and the
external view go to DIFFERENT files?  Otherwise they overwrite each
other and strange timing effects occur.

Just thoughts.


Joseph, yes definitely they are going to different files as I have 14 
different zone files 7 in each 'view' - with 13 files getting 
transferred..




I don't know if there's any way to start Bind verbosely or alternatively 
a command that will check the zone transfers?


I only have these available to me:


bash-2.05# ls /opt/csw/sbin
dnssec-dsfromkey dnssec-signzone  named
named-compilezonesasldblistusers2 wget.static
dnssec-keyfromlabel  logwatch named-checkconf  
rndc saslpasswd2
dnssec-keygenlwresd   named-checkzone  
rndc-confgen squid




Is one of these capable?



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Re: reverse zone file in external view not transferring to slaveserver??

2009-12-02 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 10:02:45AM +0200, Kaya Saman wrote:
...
 Joseph, yes definitely they are going to different files as I have 14
 different zone files 7 in each 'view' - with 13 files getting
 transferred..
...


This is good.  But bad, in that would have been an easy solution.

This whole problem sounds vaguely familiar, but I just can't catch the
pointer to the memory and the solution ... just out of reach ...


...
 I don't know if there's any way to start Bind verbosely or alternatively
 a command that will check the zone transfers?
...


Look up the logging clause in named.conf.  There's a lot, and I don't
remember anywhere near all of it, so referring you to the documentation
is best, but ask if you need help.  E.g.:


// logging clause - who, what, where, why, when, how, how long?
logging {
channel querylog {
file /var/log/named/query.log versions 15 size 25m;
// severity debug;
severity info;
print-time yes;
print-category yes;
print-severity yes;
};
channel securlog {
file /var/log/named/security.log versions 15 size 25m;
// severity debug 9;
severity info;
print-time yes;
print-category yes;
print-severity yes;
};
channel all {
file /var/log/named/named.log versions 15 size 25m;
severity info;
print-time yes;
print-category yes;
print-severity yes;
};

category queries { querylog; };
category security { securlog; };
category lame-servers { null; };// ignore
category default { all; };
};


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Re: reverse zone file in external view not transferring to slaveserver??

2009-12-02 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 12:59:51AM +0200, Kaya Saman wrote:
...
 I just hope this doesn't take up many CPU cycles and memory as the debug 
 commands do in Cisco devices rendering them almost unusable in a fully 
 setup network environment.
...


I'm glad the logging helped!

Query logging can take a lot of space - look up whether the default is
for the server to not log queries, and how and why it switches over.  I
remember it can be done manually, but ISTM there are other reasons it
switches.


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Re: reverse zone file in external view not transferring to slaveserver??

2009-12-02 Thread Kaya Saman

Joseph S D Yao wrote:

On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 12:59:51AM +0200, Kaya Saman wrote:
...
  
I just hope this doesn't take up many CPU cycles and memory as the debug 
commands do in Cisco devices rendering them almost unusable in a fully 
setup network environment.


...


I'm glad the logging helped!

Query logging can take a lot of space - look up whether the default is
for the server to not log queries, and how and why it switches over.  I
remember it can be done manually, but ISTM there are other reasons it
switches.


  

Thank you so much for all the help!!

I think however I should turn this off as I only have a 4.3GB HD in the 
machine..


The reality of the situation is that I need another WAN IP address. 
Without it I can't really do much as having a secondary DNS server is 
impossible. Am just holding off for now as I soon depending on how 
things go for myself I may move the whole network infrastructure to the 
country I am in no being Turkey, rather then keeping things going in UK.


Few that's sorted and understood :-)

Best Regards,

Kaya

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Re: reverse zone file in external view not transferring to slaveserver??

2009-12-02 Thread Kaya Saman

Major thanks Joseph

Added below:



// logging clause - who, what, where, why, when, how, how long?
logging {
channel querylog {
file /var/log/named/query.log versions 15 size 25m;
// severity debug;
severity info;
print-time yes;
print-category yes;
print-severity yes;
};
channel securlog {
file /var/log/named/security.log versions 15 size 25m;
// severity debug 9;
severity info;
print-time yes;
print-category yes;
print-severity yes;
};
channel all {
file /var/log/named/named.log versions 15 size 25m;
severity info;
print-time yes;
print-category yes;
print-severity yes;
};

category queries { querylog; };
category security { securlog; };
category lame-servers { null; };// ignore
category default { all; };
};


  


with addition of this:


   category xfer-out {
   default_syslog;
   default_debug;
   };



Inside the logging statement! The response I got below:


03-Dec-2009 00:52:20.105 general: info: zone 
2.178.81.in-addr.arpa/IN/external: refresh: non-authoritative answer 
from master 192.168.1.100#53 (source 0.0.0.0#0)


This is for my slave server! I think it's because the authoritative 
answer is coming off my ISP, however though if the zone file is valid is 
should be authoritative and irrelevant whoever else has the zone to my 
understanding anyway. - oh hang on, on second thought of course it's 
not authoritative due to the IP address that's sending the information! 
I believe that's been my issue all along.


Now however I really do like the log output as I can actually see what's 
going on :-)


I just hope this doesn't take up many CPU cycles and memory as the debug 
commands do in Cisco devices rendering them almost unusable in a fully 
setup network environment.


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