Re: Use bgp_aigp instead of bgp_med to select the optimal route based on delay

[Brandon Zhi]

Hi Ondrej,


   as.path.len = 2  as.path.len = 1
Upstream1  Node1 ---(10ms) Node2 --(20ms)-- Upstream2
   |
Node3


For this network situation, I need to have node 3 go to node 2 and connect
to the internet through upstream 1. Even if its as.path is longer.
Therefore, a parameter with a priority greater than as.path.len is required
to achieve this.

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On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 at 21:43, Ondrej Zajicek  wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 09, 2023 at 11:29:33PM +0800, Brandon Zhi wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I plan to use bgp_aigp instead of bgp_med to find the optimal route based
> > on incremental pings per node. For example, if the delay between one node
> > and another node is 40, then bgp_aigp increases by 40 after passing this
> > ibgp.
> >
> > void bgp_aigp [O]
> > This attribute contains accumulated IGP metric, which is a total
> > distance to the destination through multiple autonomous systems.
> > Currently, the attribute is not accessible from filters.
> >
> > But it seems I can't modify this value?
>
> Hi
>
> You cannot modify bgp_aigp - total distance, but you can modify per-hop
> distance, which is added to it automatically in each (inter-AS) step.
>
> It is either regular IGP metric (e.g. the attribute 'ospf_metric1' in
> case of OSPF), or manually configured one (the attribute 'igp_metric'),
> or configured cost of inter-AS link [0].
>
> [0] https://bird.network.cz/?get_doc&v=20&f=bird-6.html#bgp-cost
>
> I think that using bgp_aigp is the right tool for your use case, but
> details depend on specific topology of your confederation - whether each
> internal AS in the confederation is nontrivial network with IGP, flat
> network, or just one router.
>
> --
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>
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Re: Use bgp_aigp instead of bgp_med to select the optimal route based on delay

[Ondrej Zajicek]

On Mon, Oct 09, 2023 at 11:29:33PM +0800, Brandon Zhi wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I plan to use bgp_aigp instead of bgp_med to find the optimal route based
> on incremental pings per node. For example, if the delay between one node
> and another node is 40, then bgp_aigp increases by 40 after passing this
> ibgp.
> 
> void bgp_aigp [O]
> This attribute contains accumulated IGP metric, which is a total
> distance to the destination through multiple autonomous systems.
> Currently, the attribute is not accessible from filters.
> 
> But it seems I can't modify this value?

Hi

You cannot modify bgp_aigp - total distance, but you can modify per-hop
distance, which is added to it automatically in each (inter-AS) step.

It is either regular IGP metric (e.g. the attribute 'ospf_metric1' in
case of OSPF), or manually configured one (the attribute 'igp_metric'),
or configured cost of inter-AS link [0].

[0] https://bird.network.cz/?get_doc&v=20&f=bird-6.html#bgp-cost

I think that using bgp_aigp is the right tool for your use case, but
details depend on specific topology of your confederation - whether each
internal AS in the confederation is nontrivial network with IGP, flat
network, or just one router.

-- 
Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo

Ondrej 'Santiago' Zajicek (email: santi...@crfreenet.org)
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Re: Use bgp_aigp instead of bgp_med to select the optimal route based on delay

[Brandon Zhi]

I use bgp confederation. The problem with BGP med is that the priority of
as path len is higher than BGP med, which means some upstream with longer
as path would never be selected. Even though it has the best ping.

Douglas Fischer  于 2023年10月10日周二 上午2:59写道：

> It makes a lot sense!
> On a scenario of an Off-Path RR, aigp works perfectly.
>
> But... You are probably using this to ebgp, right?
> Why not set med as aigp, and then test med?
>
> Em seg., 9 de out. de 2023 às 15:34, Brandon Zhi 
> escreveu:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I plan to use bgp_aigp instead of bgp_med to find the optimal route based
>> on incremental pings per node. For example, if the delay between one node
>> and another node is 40, then bgp_aigp increases by 40 after passing this
>> ibgp.
>>
>> void bgp_aigp [O]
>> This attribute contains accumulated IGP metric, which is a total
>> distance to the destination through multiple autonomous systems.
>> Currently, the attribute is not accessible from filters.
>>
>> But it seems I can't modify this value?
>>
>> Best Regard,
>> *Brandon Zhi*
>> HUIZE LTD
>> www.huize.asia  | www.ixp.su | Twitter
>>
>> This e-mail and any attachments or any reproduction of this e-mail in
>> whatever manner are confidential and for the use of the addressee(s) only.
>> HUIZE LTD can’t take any liability and guarantee of the text of the email
>> message and virus.
>>
>
>
> --
> Douglas Fernando Fischer
> Engº de Controle e Automação
>

Re: Use bgp_aigp instead of bgp_med to select the optimal route based on delay

[Douglas Fischer]

It makes a lot sense!
On a scenario of an Off-Path RR, aigp works perfectly.

But... You are probably using this to ebgp, right?
Why not set med as aigp, and then test med?

Em seg., 9 de out. de 2023 às 15:34, Brandon Zhi 
escreveu:

> Hi all,
>
> I plan to use bgp_aigp instead of bgp_med to find the optimal route based
> on incremental pings per node. For example, if the delay between one node
> and another node is 40, then bgp_aigp increases by 40 after passing this
> ibgp.
>
> void bgp_aigp [O]
> This attribute contains accumulated IGP metric, which is a total
> distance to the destination through multiple autonomous systems.
> Currently, the attribute is not accessible from filters.
>
> But it seems I can't modify this value?
>
> Best Regard,
> *Brandon Zhi*
> HUIZE LTD
> www.huize.asia  | www.ixp.su | Twitter
>
> This e-mail and any attachments or any reproduction of this e-mail in
> whatever manner are confidential and for the use of the addressee(s) only.
> HUIZE LTD can’t take any liability and guarantee of the text of the email
> message and virus.
>


-- 
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Engº de Controle e Automação

Use bgp_aigp instead of bgp_med to select the optimal route based on delay

[Brandon Zhi]

Hi all,

I plan to use bgp_aigp instead of bgp_med to find the optimal route based
on incremental pings per node. For example, if the delay between one node
and another node is 40, then bgp_aigp increases by 40 after passing this
ibgp.

void bgp_aigp [O]
This attribute contains accumulated IGP metric, which is a total
distance to the destination through multiple autonomous systems.
Currently, the attribute is not accessible from filters.

But it seems I can't modify this value?

Best Regard,
*Brandon Zhi*
HUIZE LTD
www.huize.asia  | www.ixp.su | Twitter

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