[Blackbelly] fenced area needed in Guymon Oklahoma for sheep transfer
I will be swapping some sheep with a person and we plan to meet halfway in Guymon, Oklahoma. I get nervous thinking about transferring blackbelly sheep from one vehicle/trailer to another without the security of a fenced enclosure to prevent an accidental runaway. Do any of you happen to live in or near Guymon and have a fenced area or know of one? Guymon has a fairground, but I can't see from the map if there are any barns. If someone familiar with the area could email me privately, I would greatly appreciate it. Carol Carol Elkins Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep (no shear, no dock, no fuss) Pueblo, Colorado http://www.critterhaven.biz celk...@critterhaven.biz ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
[Blackbelly] Fwd: RE: Barbados Blackbelly sheep
Folks, here is a link about a fire in southern California yesterday. Look closely at the pictures of 35 American Blackbelly sheep that survived the fire, although some are "scorched" from the tremendous heat of the fire. http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-cajon-fire-20110904,0,5879720.story More photos are here: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-cajon-pass-fire-pictures,0,6280404.photogallery If you follow the link to pictures taken of the fire you will see more pictures of the sheep and desperate circumstances the owner now faces with his tremendous loss. Although his home was fully paid for, he didn't have insurance. Hopefully he will be able to feed the survivors of the fire but what about medical help for them? He lost everything he owned, everything was burned to the ground but somehow the sheep survived, shielded from the flames by their protector, a Lama, shown in photographs to be very badly burned. I'm hoping that one of you or someone you know could offer to temporarily provide pasture for them to graze or help him decide what to do for the survivors. Although I do not know this gentleman, I do know that in times like this you just don't think clearly, and sometimes it's through the help of outsiders that can make a huge difference. Carol Carol Elkins Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep (no shear, no dock, no fuss) Pueblo, Colorado http://www.critterhaven.biz ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
[Blackbelly] baking soda
Sandy, You get this at the feed store under the name of sodium bicarbonate. Liz Radi Idar Alpacas, Nubian goats and Katahdin Hair Sheep Nunn, Colorado 970-716-7218 idaralpaca.blogspot.com --- slhess...@yahoo.com wrote: From: SHession To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Sick Sheep Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 12:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Thank you for all the good suggestions. They were wormed about 5 weeks ago with oral Ivermectin. She seems better this afternoon and nibbled on some grass, so hopefully we are on the road to recovery. I will get some Probios this afternoon, and put out some baking soda. I will give them another dose of Ivermectin, but would like to continue to watch her for another day or two before doing that. I don't yet have enough experience with the sheep to feel confident in evaluating whether I am dealing with an emergency or not. Thanks again. Sandy --- On Mon, 9/5/11, Onalee wrote: > From: Onalee > Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Sick Sheep > To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > Date: Monday, September 5, 2011, 2:50 PM > Another thing to consider is how long > ago have they been wormed and what did you use? You > may want to re-worm them, even if they look healthy and fat; > I've seen sheep get sick and die from worm infestation, even > though they looked fine. I would NOT USE SAFEGUARD ... > that was the most useless wormer I've ever used. > Ivomec injectable has worked best for me. > > ___ > This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Sick Sheep
My ewe seems fine this morning. My pasture is not lush - hence the pellets. It is a very scraggly mix which we hope to improve, with the help of the livestock, and a lot of lime (pH 4.8). Thanks again to all for your valuable input. Sandy --- On Tue, 9/6/11, Cecil R Bearden wrote: > From: Cecil R Bearden > Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Sick Sheep > To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > Date: Tuesday, September 6, 2011, 6:06 AM > If your sheep are on lush grass and > you are feeding them alfalfa pellets and also some grain, > they are getting too much feed... > This sounds like a rich ration, and sheep are used to > foraging on lower grade grasses. I had this problem > when I put out molasses tubs and the grass was > lush. I lost 2 to either bloat with this > high sugar ration. It was my 2 best ewes also, because > they always crowded the others out... If the grass is > lush, then I would only give them a mineral supplement > and leave the grain for catching them or leading them into > the barn > > Just my $0.02 > > Cecil in oKla > > > > On 9/5/2011 2:10 PM, SHession wrote: > > Thank you for all the good suggestions. They > were wormed about 5 weeks ago with oral Ivermectin. > She seems better this afternoon and nibbled on some grass, > so hopefully we are on the road to recovery. I will > get some Probios this afternoon, and put out some baking > soda. I will give them another dose of Ivermectin, but > would like to continue to watch her for another day or two > before doing that. > > > > I don't yet have enough experience with the sheep to > feel confident in evaluating whether I am dealing with an > emergency or not. > > > > Thanks again. > > > > Sandy > > > > --- On Mon, 9/5/11, Onalee > wrote: > > > >> From: Onalee > >> Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Sick Sheep > >> To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > >> Date: Monday, September 5, 2011, 2:50 PM > >> Another thing to consider is how long > >> ago have they been wormed and what did you > use? You > >> may want to re-worm them, even if they look > healthy and fat; > >> I've seen sheep get sick and die from worm > infestation, even > >> though they looked fine. I would NOT USE > SAFEGUARD ... > >> that was the most useless wormer I've ever used. > Ivomec injectable has worked best for me. > >> > >> ___ > >> This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list > >> Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > >> > > ___ > > This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list > > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > > ___ > This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Sick Sheep
Livestock Concepts has an Ivermectin wormer that is mixed in the feed, also a panacur based wormer that is feed mixed. Use the dose for the 7 day treatment for hogs, but only use it once and then 2 weeks later. Then inject the ones that appear to still have worms. This works great, ans saves me a lot of work with my 60 head flock Cecil in OKla On 9/5/2011 2:10 PM, SHession wrote: Thank you for all the good suggestions. They were wormed about 5 weeks ago with oral Ivermectin. She seems better this afternoon and nibbled on some grass, so hopefully we are on the road to recovery. I will get some Probios this afternoon, and put out some baking soda. I will give them another dose of Ivermectin, but would like to continue to watch her for another day or two before doing that. I don't yet have enough experience with the sheep to feel confident in evaluating whether I am dealing with an emergency or not. Thanks again. Sandy --- On Mon, 9/5/11, Onalee wrote: From: Onalee Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Sick Sheep To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Date: Monday, September 5, 2011, 2:50 PM Another thing to consider is how long ago have they been wormed and what did you use? You may want to re-worm them, even if they look healthy and fat; I've seen sheep get sick and die from worm infestation, even though they looked fine. I would NOT USE SAFEGUARD ... that was the most useless wormer I've ever used. Ivomec injectable has worked best for me. ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Sick Sheep
If your sheep are on lush grass and you are feeding them alfalfa pellets and also some grain, they are getting too much feed... This sounds like a rich ration, and sheep are used to foraging on lower grade grasses. I had this problem when I put out molasses tubs and the grass was lush. I lost 2 to either bloat with this high sugar ration. It was my 2 best ewes also, because they always crowded the others out... If the grass is lush, then I would only give them a mineral supplement and leave the grain for catching them or leading them into the barn Just my $0.02 Cecil in oKla On 9/5/2011 2:10 PM, SHession wrote: Thank you for all the good suggestions. They were wormed about 5 weeks ago with oral Ivermectin. She seems better this afternoon and nibbled on some grass, so hopefully we are on the road to recovery. I will get some Probios this afternoon, and put out some baking soda. I will give them another dose of Ivermectin, but would like to continue to watch her for another day or two before doing that. I don't yet have enough experience with the sheep to feel confident in evaluating whether I am dealing with an emergency or not. Thanks again. Sandy --- On Mon, 9/5/11, Onalee wrote: From: Onalee Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Sick Sheep To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Date: Monday, September 5, 2011, 2:50 PM Another thing to consider is how long ago have they been wormed and what did you use? You may want to re-worm them, even if they look healthy and fat; I've seen sheep get sick and die from worm infestation, even though they looked fine. I would NOT USE SAFEGUARD ... that was the most useless wormer I've ever used. Ivomec injectable has worked best for me. ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info