wow, so I imagined it was the other way around. I was thinking the Painted Desert was actually an indigenous sheep to the US and was bred with BBs to get horns on ABs. Thanks for the clarification.
_Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies Sent from my iPad On Oct 30, 2011, at 4:51 PM, imgr8a...@comcast.net wrote: > Sorry it took me so long to respond to this. > > The Texas Dahl is a white sheep and when crossed with an American Blackbelly > you get a very pretty painted desert. I have American as well as Barbados > Blackbelly sheep and my sister-in-law has painted desert sheep. The American > Blackbelly Sheep is one of the most common sheep crossed with another to > produce painted desert sheep. Painted Desert sheep have horns and have to > have certain color patterns to be registered. If the baby doesn't have lots > of color, the only way to register them is if both parents were registered > Painted Desert sheep. > > > Nancy L. Johnson > imgr8a...@comcast.net > cell: 301 440 4808 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Smith" <mwsmotorspo...@gmail.com> > To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info > Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 8:20:05 AM > Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] BB or AB crossed with something else > > folks, another great California example. you will have to check this > ad out quickly, it might not stay there long > > http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/grd/2623369772.html > > they say "Texas Dahl" cross with BB. But all I see in those white-ish > rams with spots, is Painted Desert cross with BB. > > Texas Dahl is another one we don't see out here much. > > _Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Michael Smith <mwsmotorspo...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> Donna-Marie, I imagine you are talking about Marley the ram? >> >> http://mwsmith.smugmug.com/Animals/RamsMay2011/17252812_BwW2Sr#1309783922_zcS5wtP-A-LB >> >> take a look at the link Carol included for Painted Desert sheep, and >> remember I said the most common cross with Barbado Blackbelly to get >> American Blackbelly in the west, is Painted Desert. Marley has those >> horns. and after only 3 years. >> >> http://www.painteddesertsheepsociety.com/ >> >> I "wish" we had Mouflon in California. I have never seen them, and >> look every few months on craigslist and ag. forums for them and never >> see them in California. But, if I search on the word "barbado", which >> is what people call ABs here, I find several ads on any given week. I >> can find some Jacobs sheep, Painted Desert, but no Mouflon. Just >> gives you an idea how rare Mouflon are around here. >> >> -Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies >> >> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Carol Elkins <celk...@critterhaven.biz> >> wrote: >>> Mouflon have heart-shaped (supracervical) horns, so a mouflon-cross would be >>> more likely to have supracervical horns rather than horns that sweep outward >>> in curls (homonymous). >>> >>> For an excellent discussion about the various blackbelly crosses and >>> resulting horn shapes, see Anita Garza's page at >>> http://www.elcascabel.com/corbros.htm Her nomenclature for Barbados >>> Blackbelly and American Blackbelly is a little outdated, but the bulk of the >>> information on this page is very well written. >>> >>> Those of you with horned sheep might be interested in the United Horned Hair >>> Sheep Association at http://www.unitedhornedhairsheepassociation.org/ >>> >>> Those of you with horned sheep that are multi-colored might be interested in >>> the Painted Desert Sheep Society at >>> http://www.painteddesertsheepsociety.com/ >>> >>> Those of you with well-marked blackbelly sheep with horns (ewes don't need >>> to be horned) might be interested in the Barbados Blackbelly Sheep >>> Association Int'l. which maintains the oldest registry for the American >>> Blackbelly breed. http://www.blackbellysheep.org >>> >>> Carol >>> >>> At 04:49 PM 9/30/2011, you wrote: >>>> >>>> I was told that the first thing to go on a cross is the black bar across >>>> the >>>> top of the head. >>>> >>>> I would say the one ram with the wide spread horns may be a mouflon cross >>>> as >>>> they have that horn set. >>>> >>>> Donna-Marie >>>> In BC, Canada >>> >>> Carol Elkins >>> Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep >>> (no shear, no dock, no fuss) >>> Pueblo, Colorado >>> http://www.critterhaven.biz >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list >>> Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info > _______________________________________________ > This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list > Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info _______________________________________________ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info