Re: [blackbelly] Help...weak lamb
I hope this won't be a trend for me also. If he survives I'll definately have to get him fixed. I've been keeping him inside since yesterday and you would think he was bottle fed. He follows me around when he's strong enough to walk and seems to enjoy my company. He has his own room with a constant supply of hay, grain, and water. I noticed that his stool was clumped together and mushy. What does that mean? Thanks, Britt Stephanie Jones writes: Britt, I wish I could be of some help to you, I feel for you! But, I am waiting to see what this group of smart folks say, as I seem to lose many lambs between the ages of 3-6 months. We've researched all of the possible problems that we are aware of, to no luck. For lack of any other answer, we think we have some kind of a deficiency in our ground, or that we need to be immunizing against some unknown. Therefore, only the strongest of the lambs survive. We have out mineral tubs, hay, pasture, and grain them daily. Yet, we still loose some for no apparent reason. They appear healthy one day, found dead in the lot the next day. I hope I'm not discouraging you, I don't mean too. I'm just hoping that we both may learn something! :) Good luck!! ;) Stephanie - Original Message - From: Britt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 1:08 PM Subject: [blackbelly] Help...weak lamb Not sure what happened but my 6 month old ram lamb has just all of the sudden become very weak. ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] (no subject)
Does anyone from this list have llamas? I keep my sheep and llamas together at all times and if the basic h is not harmful to llamas this could be the solution I was looking for. Thanks, Britt Susan Smith writes: Stephanie, I also have 60 ewes. I put the 1/2 cup per 50 gallons in two seperate 50 gallon tubs for them. Unless the water gets really nasty I do not change the water, just keep adding water to the tub so all the Basic H is consumed. When I add more water I put the hose down into the water because if that is not done there is foam. My sheep then think there is a monster living in the water and won't touch it til the foam is gone. Sheesh! This is how I do it, and I do it once a month to all my animals including the fowl. I really do not understand how or why it works, but just as long as they are all drinking from the tubs with Basic H in it.. it works. Sue Susan Smith Sandoah Achers www.sandoahachers.com American Blackbelly Sheep Painted Desert Sheep Barbado Sheep Mouflon X Black Hawaiian Sheep Texas Dall Corsican From: Stephanie Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [blackbelly] (no subject) Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 20:44:09 -0400 Susan, How many sheep will this 50 gallon treat? If 10 sheep are drinking the 50 gallon they will naturally comsume more (of the basic H) than if they were sharing the 50 gallon with 25 of their friends! What I'm asking is this We have 60 ewes, so how much Basic H would you recommend for me to use if I wanted to treat them once a month as you do? Thanks Stephanie Original Message - From: Susan Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] (no subject) Yes, Basic H the all purpose cleaner. I use 1/2 cup per 50 gallons of water for my sheep. I use it once a month. Sue From: Stephanie Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: [blackbelly] (no subject) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:05:52 -0400 Barb, I noted, off and on, for several months that folks are talking about Basic Has a wormer and now as an insect control. My question is this-? Are you talking about the Basic H All Purpose Cleaner? If so, how do you use it as a wormer? ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysh eep.info _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] Basic H----SOLD!
Susan, I'm new to equines and I've been told equines build a tolerance to wormer meds and that they should not be given the same med monthly and should be rotated. Is this just a general safeguard or a solid fact? I got to admit the Basic H sounds to good to be true but I'm not doubting that it works. I'll ask people on some of the equine list to get there opinions. It sounds like you have a similar setup as I do with llamas, sheep, and equines in one pasture. I also have ducks and chickens in the same area. Susan Smith writes: I appreciate your concern and input Carol. I might add that with any product there is no cure all for every circumstance. But for myself I would prefer using organic rather then chemical products on myself or my animals. Would I take Basic H for myself, well if I had a choice to take Ivermectin or Basic H I think I would take the Basic H. All my critters have been on Basic H for one year, adult ewes, adult rams and all the lambs. The equine, llama, etc. I haven't had a problem yet. I would be interested in the member finding Basic H to be harmful sharing their concerns and findings. We could all stand to learn from the negative as well as the positives as you say. Sue Susan Smith Sandoah Achers www.sandoahachers.com American Blackbelly Sheep Painted Desert Sheep Barbado Sheep Mouflon X Black Hawaiian Sheep Texas Dall Corsican From: Carol J. Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Subject: Re: [blackbelly] Basic HSOLD! Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 10:36:15 -0600 Not to throw a fly in the ointment (no pun intended), but tread with caution. If Basic H kills flies and parasites, what might it do to your sheep over time? Would you be willing to drink it yourself? Give it to your kids? I've received word from a list member who has done some testing with Basic H and reports that ewe lambs and very old ewes suffer from Basic H because it is a poison. (He has not provided additional detail.) I'd appreciate everyone who tries Basic H to keep the list informed as to the results--both positive and negative. Since those results might take some time to manifest themselves, we all should keep our eyes open in the interim. Just as there are no scientific studies that prove the effectiveness of Basic H as a deworming agent, there are no studies that indicate any negative effects. It's up to us to find out and share our information. Carol ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep .info _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ___ This message is from the blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
[blackbelly] Re: Oh No!!! A Friendly Ram!
That's a interesting story and I have a similar one. A ram was born on my property about 4 months ago, I've never handled him and always kept my distance but I do spend alot of time out in the pasture dealing with other animals and just hanging out. When it's feeding time he'll come right up to me ready for me to pour it. Even when I come without food he does not act like he's scared I could walk right up to him and he may make a minimal effort to take a few steps out of my way but if I were intending to catch him I could very easily. Should I be concerned?? It seems he's gotten very use to me being around and doesn't see me as a threat. He's young and harlmess now, but I know he could potentially be a big problem later. What should a do? The Wintermutes writes: I just put a mean three year old ram into the freezer. He spent the last three years trying to kill me and I had enough of it! So I've replaced him with a ram that was raised in an open range, without shelter of any kind, and no knowledge of what corn was. Well.. He knows what corn is now and.. HE LIKES IT! Not only that, he is what my elementary school teachers would call a Chatty Cathy. He nicely talks to me non-stop like a Wal-Mart greeter even if I don't have anything to give him. He also has no idea of personal space. He is not content to stand off a few feet when he could be right beside me! I don't know his history but I am beginning to suspect he might have been a bottle baby. My heart can't help but race when I see him trotting straight at me! My adrenalin gland is getting a daily work out! He hasn't shown a single ounce of aggression but I am so conditioned to mean rams I just can't help myself. I intend to continue to limit human exposure to him as much as possible. I don't need any help or advice I just wanted to share this new experience with the group. I don't trust any ram, don't make them pets, don't rub or give treats, and such. The mutual policy between me and the rest of my rams is You leave me alone and I'll leave you alone- hands off! Mark Wintermute ___ This message is from the Blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info mailing list Visit the list's homepage at Blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info mailing list Visit the list's homepage at Blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] looking for a fly repellent method
I have free range chickens and ducks with my sheep and it works great. I would have major fly/insect problems if they weren't around. If the dog food gets wet and goes bad I feed it to the chickens to prevent maggots. All the left over food I cannot feed to the dogs goes to the chickens, they're like mini garbage disposals. Chickens will eat anything! Britt - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] looking for a fly repellent method In a message dated 8/16/05 9:02:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, if you have the opportunity and space for some free-range chickens..you might want to give it a try. I had already thought about adding chickens(meat) in with the sheep. :-) Mine are about 3 weeks old. Once they are big enough that the hawks won't take them, they'll be living with the sheep for bug control. I'm also debating on letting the ducks out, great bug hunter, especially my Welsh Harlequins. Diana ___ This message is from the Blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info mailing list Visit the list's homepage at Blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info mailing list Visit the list's homepage at Blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
Re: [blackbelly] baby sheep
Ok that gives me a good idea. I'm new to sheep and one of my ewes had a baby ram 3 weeks ago. He's very playful and eating a lot of grain and cracked corn, I often see him grazing out in the pasture and he nurses very little. He's big and looks healthy but now I know he still has another 5 weeks or so before he's completely weaned. - Original Message - From: Carol J. Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] baby sheep Britt, I usually wean my lambs at between 8-12 weeks old. I move the ewes out of the pen (leave the lambs where they grew up) and as far as I can get them. Unfortunately, sometimes that means that only a fence separates them, which makes things a bit more noisy. A lot of people recommend not feeding the ewes or at least not giving them any grain for a few days after being separated from their lambs to help their milk dry up. Because I often wean during the winter when grain supplementation is necessary, I just continue feeding them their normal feed (the amount they eat when not pregnant and not lactating) and they do fine. I leave the lambs separated for two weeks. For the first two days and nights, ewes and lambs will do their best to convince you they are dying. The noise can be tremendous. It is a good idea to let your neighbors know in advance the dates you plan to wean and then take them a 6-pack afterwards as a peace offering. My lambs will eat grain at about 2 weeks, although they play with it sooner than that. For a really good book about lambs and lambing, I highly recommend Laura Lawson's Managing Your Ewe and Her Newborn Lambs available at http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/096339231X/critterhavenesta Carol At 02:58 PM 5/5/2005 -0400, you wrote: How long does it take for a baby lamb to be weaned? How old do they start to eat solid food? Thanks, Britt ___ This message is from the Blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info mailing list Visit the list's homepage at Blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.i nfo Carol Elkins Critterhaven Estate Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep (no shear, no dock, no fuss) Pueblo, Colorado http://www.critterhaven.biz T-shirts, mugs, caps, and more at the Barbados Blackbelly Online Store http://www.cafepress.com/blackbellysheep ___ This message is from the Blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info mailing list Visit the list's homepage at Blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.in fo ___ This message is from the Blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info mailing list Visit the list's homepage at Blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info@lists.blackbellysheep.info http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info
