Re: GDM install error

2008-12-03 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 01:05:12AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 going into the dir like you said and running that command it runs fine and
 returns 0 so does this mean for some strange reason its not running it as
 it should from make/make install ?
 
 Apparently.  I assume you didn't fall in to any of the traps I
indicated in previous replies, so I'm now out of ideas for why your
builds don't do the same thing as mine.  In particular, I couldn't
find *any* way to *not* build the docs when I looked at the
configure options yeasterday.

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Re: GDM install error

2008-12-03 Thread v4mpire

 going into the dir like you said and running that command it runs fine
 and
 returns 0 so does this mean for some strange reason its not running it
 as
 it should from make/make install ?

  Apparently.  I assume you didn't fall in to any of the traps I
 indicated in previous replies, so I'm now out of ideas for why your
 builds don't do the same thing as mine.  In particular, I couldn't
 find *any* way to *not* build the docs when I looked at the
 configure options yeasterday.

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How strange and annoying :/

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GDM install error

2008-12-02 Thread v4mpire
Hey,

I was actually installing without scrollkeeper and was using
--disable-scrollkeeper which allowed configure to run through and the
error was the same on the book version of 2.18.3 and 2.18.4 so seems even
tho scrollkeeper is optional on some stages it really isn't on gdm even
though you can disable it and on gdm itself it doesn't state it needs
scrollkeeper on the book anyway but in configure it does, guess i'll go
give it a try with scrollkeeper installed

Cheers,

Gary



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Re: GDM install error

2008-12-02 Thread Randy McMurchy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was actually installing without scrollkeeper and was using
 --disable-scrollkeeper which allowed configure to run through and the
 error was the same on the book version of 2.18.3 and 2.18.4 so seems even
 tho scrollkeeper is optional on some stages it really isn't on gdm even
 though you can disable it and on gdm itself it doesn't state it needs
 scrollkeeper on the book anyway but in configure it does, guess i'll go
 give it a try with scrollkeeper installed

Replying for the archives, as I want to clarify how the
dependencies work.

Actually, following the BLFS book, ScrollKeeper is not optional.
It is a recommended dependency of GNOME Doc Utils which is
required for GDM. There is even a note attached to the GDU
instructions that says you *can* install GDU without ScrollKeeper
but you will be missing required functionality.

So, the BLFS staff expects ScrollKeeper to be installed when you
begin the installation of GDM. Dependencies (required by another
dependency) are not mentioned again for the sake of redundancy.

Hopefully, this clarifies the issue of on gdm itself it doesn't
state it needs scrollkeeper on the book anyway but in configure it
does.

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Re: GDM install error

2008-12-02 Thread v4mpire

right i have just ran through and installed scrollkeeper as required and
still getting the same error im using 2.18.4 now so i need more guidance
as to what to do next
 Hey,

 I was actually installing without scrollkeeper and was using
 --disable-scrollkeeper which allowed configure to run through and the
 error was the same on the book version of 2.18.3 and 2.18.4 so seems even
 tho scrollkeeper is optional on some stages it really isn't on gdm even
 though you can disable it and on gdm itself it doesn't state it needs
 scrollkeeper on the book anyway but in configure it does, guess i'll go
 give it a try with scrollkeeper installed

 Cheers,

 Gary



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Re: GDM install error

2008-12-02 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 04:22:21PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 right i have just ran through and installed scrollkeeper as required and
 still getting the same error im using 2.18.4 now so i need more guidance
 as to what to do next

 Any error messages before the one you showed us earlier ?

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Re: GDM install error

2008-12-02 Thread v4mpire
none what so ever

 right i have just ran through and installed scrollkeeper as required and
 still getting the same error im using 2.18.4 now so i need more guidance
 as to what to do next

  Any error messages before the one you showed us earlier ?

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Re: GDM install error

2008-12-02 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 08:01:38PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 none what so ever
 
  right i have just ran through and installed scrollkeeper as required and
  still getting the same error im using 2.18.4 now so i need more guidance
  as to what to do next
 
   Any error messages before the one you showed us earlier ?
 

 Did you log the build ?  e.g.
make 21 | tee buildlog 
make install 21 | tee instlog

 If you did, search through the log (from the *build*) to find
reference(s) to that file - 'less' should be adequate for this ('/'
to search forward) - or search in your editor of choice.

 At the moment, we know that the file is normally created during the
build.  Scrollkeeper appears not to need to have 'ldconfig' run
manually because it runs 'ldconfig -n /usr/lib' during its install.
So, I can't sensibly suggest anything without an indication of what
happened to the file.

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Re: GDM install error

2008-12-02 Thread v4mpire
i dont see anything that seems to be a problem i dont really see anything
else to do with it as such unless i keep missing it i can paste to
pastebin if you like to see if you can work out whats wrong as i must be
missing a key factor
 none what so ever
 
  right i have just ran through and installed scrollkeeper as required
 and
  still getting the same error im using 2.18.4 now so i need more
 guidance
  as to what to do next
 
   Any error messages before the one you showed us earlier ?
 

  Did you log the build ?  e.g.
 make 21 | tee buildlog 
 make install 21 | tee instlog

  If you did, search through the log (from the *build*) to find
 reference(s) to that file - 'less' should be adequate for this ('/'
 to search forward) - or search in your editor of choice.

  At the moment, we know that the file is normally created during the
 build.  Scrollkeeper appears not to need to have 'ldconfig' run
 manually because it runs 'ldconfig -n /usr/lib' during its install.
 So, I can't sensibly suggest anything without an indication of what
 happened to the file.

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Re: GDM install error

2008-12-02 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 10:30:18PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i dont see anything that seems to be a problem i dont really see anything
 else to do with it as such unless i keep missing it i can paste to
 pastebin if you like to see if you can work out whats wrong as i must be
 missing a key factor
 Just search for gdm-de.omf in the log, and look at the handful of
lines after it - I'm assuming you managed to capture stderr ( the
21 of my example ).

 And when you've found it, remind me to lecture you about not
top-posting. ;-)

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Re: GDM install error

2008-12-02 Thread v4mpire
 i dont see anything that seems to be a problem i dont really see
 anything
 else to do with it as such unless i keep missing it i can paste to
 pastebin if you like to see if you can work out whats wrong as i must be
 missing a key factor
  Just search for gdm-de.omf in the log, and look at the handful of
 lines after it - I'm assuming you managed to capture stderr ( the
 21 of my example ).

  And when you've found it, remind me to lecture you about not
 top-posting. ;-)

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well between log from make and log from make install the only part that
mentions gdm-de.omf is part of the origional post i made

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Re: GDM install error

2008-12-02 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 11:26:23PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 well between log from make and log from make install the only part that
 mentions gdm-de.omf is part of the origional post i made

 Just to avoid the obvious - you said you installed scrollkeeper.
Did you rebuild gnome-doc-utils after that ?

 I don't see how make would avoid going into docs/de.  When it gets
there, even in Makefile.in it has

omffile = gdm-de.omf

 and then a bit later

omf: omf_timestamp

omf_timestamp: $(omffile)
-for file in $(omffile); do \
  scrollkeeper-preinstall $(docdir)/$(docname).xml
$(srcdir)/$$file $$file.out; \
done; \
touch omf_timestamp

 : the filename (gdm-de.omf) and the invocation of
scrollkeeper-preinstall are hard-coded, so it isn't one of those
cases where a missing program causes the Makefile to end up being
garbled.

 Are you using freshly untarred source each time ?  I _think_ that
if scrollkeeper-preinstall is not found, the command 'touch
omf_timestamp' will still be executed.

 If none of that has solved it, go into a freshly untarred gdm, and
cd to docs/de.  Run

scrollkeeper-preinstall /usr/share/gnome/help/gdm/de/gdm.xml \
./gdm-de.omf ./gdm-de.omf.out ; echo $?

 Is the status 0 ?  Do you get any error messages ?

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Re: GDM install error

2008-12-02 Thread v4mpire
 well between log from make and log from make install the only part that
 mentions gdm-de.omf is part of the origional post i made

  Just to avoid the obvious - you said you installed scrollkeeper.
 Did you rebuild gnome-doc-utils after that ?

  I don't see how make would avoid going into docs/de.  When it gets
 there, even in Makefile.in it has

 omffile = gdm-de.omf

  and then a bit later

 omf: omf_timestamp

 omf_timestamp: $(omffile)
 -for file in $(omffile); do \
   scrollkeeper-preinstall $(docdir)/$(docname).xml
 $(srcdir)/$$file $$file.out; \
 done; \
 touch omf_timestamp

  : the filename (gdm-de.omf) and the invocation of
 scrollkeeper-preinstall are hard-coded, so it isn't one of those
 cases where a missing program causes the Makefile to end up being
 garbled.

  Are you using freshly untarred source each time ?  I _think_ that
 if scrollkeeper-preinstall is not found, the command 'touch
 omf_timestamp' will still be executed.

  If none of that has solved it, go into a freshly untarred gdm, and
 cd to docs/de.  Run

 scrollkeeper-preinstall /usr/share/gnome/help/gdm/de/gdm.xml \
 ./gdm-de.omf ./gdm-de.omf.out ; echo $?

  Is the status 0 ?  Do you get any error messages ?

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going into the dir like you said and running that command it runs fine and
returns 0 so does this mean for some strange reason its not running it as
it should from make/make install ?


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