Re: [blind-gamers] Am I missing something, guys?
Have you ever played nethack? I've never won that game myself. Many years spent playing it though. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Tue, 10 Jan 2023, Lenron wrote: > I grew up gaming and I will forever be a gamer some how some way. Mist > world is my favorite audio game right now. Started playing manamon 2 > again as well. Have been wanting to get back into swamp it's been a > while. Nvda just works better with games. > > On 1/10/23, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > jaws is job access with speech so it was never really big into gaming. > > That's especially unfortunate for new computer users since the way new > > computer users gain confidence on computers that are new to them is to > > spend lots of hours playing games. > > The first pcxt I had didn't have jaws on it, that was artic. It came with > > lots of games including infocom titles which was my first introduction to > > those games. The training materials freedomscientific uses aren't even > > games which is why and how jaws even with its training materials is a slow > > and difficult learning curve. Jaws for windows is certainly no better. > > > > > > > > Jude "There are four boxes to be used in > > defense of liberty: > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > > > . > > > > On Wed, 11 Jan 2023, Shaun Everiss wrote: > > > >> Hi linsey. > >> > >> Yeah there are not many games anymore. > >> > >> There are the japanese games in general which are good and some of the > >> chinese ones like mist. > >> > >> then there is ksre which is quite old on audiogames forum I forget the > >> link. > >> > >> Its just been redone and its a good story. > >> > >> However the renpy main games page hasn't had a good load of upgrades in > >> ages. > >> > >> Outside that, bar audiogame.store there isn't much. > >> > >> And even their latest game I have reached partly through. > >> > >> Its interest seems to have died down quickly so who knows. > >> > >> Technically there are supposed to be a few more but not much. > >> > >> Sadly I suspect that the audiogames industry isn't as rosy as it was ages > >> back. > >> > >> In 1995 through 2010 there was great optomism for the industry as a > >> whole. > >> > >> But with some mainstreaming, the fact gaming doesn't make cash, and > >> everything > >> else there are less devs. > >> > >> A few games use sapi internal os voices and tts engines, a few are self > >> voicing and a few still exist like sbyw just ticking along but nothing > >> new > >> really. > >> > >> If you mean exactly for jaws that may be your problem. > >> > >> Yes some games have support for jaws but not many. > >> > >> With nvda about and internal support on the os pluss some self voicing > >> themselves, there is probably not going to be actual games for jaws if > >> not > >> ever at least not right now. > >> > >> Jaws has its uses but like dolphin reader, freedomscientiffic is 1 of the > >> last > >> so called access business companies to still be in the market though not > >> really for general use anymore. > >> > >> Put it another way no standard newly blind is going to buy jaws, or any of > >> the > >> other comercials if he doesn't need to. > >> > >> I do test for dolphin so obviously I do need to run the reader to check > >> things > >> out from time to time, but even I have thought about my association for a > >> little. > >> > >> The only reason I don't drop it as such as its another alternitive if I > >> ever > >> find something that needs the extra power. > >> > >> But really nvda will do almost everything any user needs. > >> > >> Listen to music, write email, surf the net with a brouser, even game. > >> > >> It will even do some limited to semi advanced ocr if given the right > >> program, > >> maybe not that well but well enough. > >> > >> The only things against it are. > >> > >> 1. because there are no intercepts it doesn't have as many cursers and > >> virtual modes for advanced work. > >> > >> Of course most of us using standard software doesn't need those modes so > >> its > >> largely mute. > >> > >> 2. being it uses mainstream languages and plugins it needs constant > >> security > >> and other updates. > >> > >> Thats fine and all but some users don't like it. > >> > >> Though if you don't want to you don't need to load any modules bar maybe > >> the > >> windows 10 and the updater if you want to keep things updated. > >> > >> They do help at least for programs you use and there are a few extras you > >> can > >> use to. > >> > >> And if you don't need anything much more over really basic there is > >> narator. > >> > >> Its not the most advanced system obviously and its only updated once or > >> tiwice > >> a year with the major os updates, but its rumored to be scriptable, and > >> will > >> handle chromium in some way, not tested really and will do
Re: [blind-gamers] Am I missing something, guys?
I grew up gaming and I will forever be a gamer some how some way. Mist world is my favorite audio game right now. Started playing manamon 2 again as well. Have been wanting to get back into swamp it's been a while. Nvda just works better with games. On 1/10/23, Jude DaShiell wrote: > jaws is job access with speech so it was never really big into gaming. > That's especially unfortunate for new computer users since the way new > computer users gain confidence on computers that are new to them is to > spend lots of hours playing games. > The first pcxt I had didn't have jaws on it, that was artic. It came with > lots of games including infocom titles which was my first introduction to > those games. The training materials freedomscientific uses aren't even > games which is why and how jaws even with its training materials is a slow > and difficult learning curve. Jaws for windows is certainly no better. > > > > Jude "There are four boxes to be used in > defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > > . > > On Wed, 11 Jan 2023, Shaun Everiss wrote: > >> Hi linsey. >> >> Yeah there are not many games anymore. >> >> There are the japanese games in general which are good and some of the >> chinese ones like mist. >> >> then there is ksre which is quite old on audiogames forum I forget the >> link. >> >> Its just been redone and its a good story. >> >> However the renpy main games page hasn't had a good load of upgrades in >> ages. >> >> Outside that, bar audiogame.store there isn't much. >> >> And even their latest game I have reached partly through. >> >> Its interest seems to have died down quickly so who knows. >> >> Technically there are supposed to be a few more but not much. >> >> Sadly I suspect that the audiogames industry isn't as rosy as it was ages >> back. >> >> In 1995 through 2010 there was great optomism for the industry as a >> whole. >> >> But with some mainstreaming, the fact gaming doesn't make cash, and >> everything >> else there are less devs. >> >> A few games use sapi internal os voices and tts engines, a few are self >> voicing and a few still exist like sbyw just ticking along but nothing >> new >> really. >> >> If you mean exactly for jaws that may be your problem. >> >> Yes some games have support for jaws but not many. >> >> With nvda about and internal support on the os pluss some self voicing >> themselves, there is probably not going to be actual games for jaws if >> not >> ever at least not right now. >> >> Jaws has its uses but like dolphin reader, freedomscientiffic is 1 of the >> last >> so called access business companies to still be in the market though not >> really for general use anymore. >> >> Put it another way no standard newly blind is going to buy jaws, or any of >> the >> other comercials if he doesn't need to. >> >> I do test for dolphin so obviously I do need to run the reader to check >> things >> out from time to time, but even I have thought about my association for a >> little. >> >> The only reason I don't drop it as such as its another alternitive if I >> ever >> find something that needs the extra power. >> >> But really nvda will do almost everything any user needs. >> >> Listen to music, write email, surf the net with a brouser, even game. >> >> It will even do some limited to semi advanced ocr if given the right >> program, >> maybe not that well but well enough. >> >> The only things against it are. >> >> 1. because there are no intercepts it doesn't have as many cursers and >> virtual modes for advanced work. >> >> Of course most of us using standard software doesn't need those modes so >> its >> largely mute. >> >> 2. being it uses mainstream languages and plugins it needs constant >> security >> and other updates. >> >> Thats fine and all but some users don't like it. >> >> Though if you don't want to you don't need to load any modules bar maybe >> the >> windows 10 and the updater if you want to keep things updated. >> >> They do help at least for programs you use and there are a few extras you >> can >> use to. >> >> And if you don't need anything much more over really basic there is >> narator. >> >> Its not the most advanced system obviously and its only updated once or >> tiwice >> a year with the major os updates, but its rumored to be scriptable, and >> will >> handle chromium in some way, not tested really and will do simple tasks. >> >> Its not really a screen reader but if you only need to muck about with >> microsoft everything its probably not a problem though nvda gives you a >> little >> choice. >> >> >> On 11/01/2023 7:51 am, Lindsay Cowell wrote: >> > >> > Hi all >> > >> > >> > I feel like I am missing something here guys. Are there not any good >> > games >> > for PC and windows in particular any more? I can't seem to find >> > anything, >> > and when I do, it is in another language and doesn't work with Jaws. Am >> > I >> > missing something here? >> > >>
Re: [blind-gamers] Am I missing something, guys?
jaws is job access with speech so it was never really big into gaming. That's especially unfortunate for new computer users since the way new computer users gain confidence on computers that are new to them is to spend lots of hours playing games. The first pcxt I had didn't have jaws on it, that was artic. It came with lots of games including infocom titles which was my first introduction to those games. The training materials freedomscientific uses aren't even games which is why and how jaws even with its training materials is a slow and difficult learning curve. Jaws for windows is certainly no better. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Wed, 11 Jan 2023, Shaun Everiss wrote: > Hi linsey. > > Yeah there are not many games anymore. > > There are the japanese games in general which are good and some of the > chinese ones like mist. > > then there is ksre which is quite old on audiogames forum I forget the link. > > Its just been redone and its a good story. > > However the renpy main games page hasn't had a good load of upgrades in ages. > > Outside that, bar audiogame.store there isn't much. > > And even their latest game I have reached partly through. > > Its interest seems to have died down quickly so who knows. > > Technically there are supposed to be a few more but not much. > > Sadly I suspect that the audiogames industry isn't as rosy as it was ages > back. > > In 1995 through 2010 there was great optomism for the industry as a whole. > > But with some mainstreaming, the fact gaming doesn't make cash, and everything > else there are less devs. > > A few games use sapi internal os voices and tts engines, a few are self > voicing and a few still exist like sbyw just ticking along but nothing new > really. > > If you mean exactly for jaws that may be your problem. > > Yes some games have support for jaws but not many. > > With nvda about and internal support on the os pluss some self voicing > themselves, there is probably not going to be actual games for jaws if not > ever at least not right now. > > Jaws has its uses but like dolphin reader, freedomscientiffic is 1 of the last > so called access business companies to still be in the market though not > really for general use anymore. > > Put it another way no standard newly blind is going to buy jaws, or any of the > other comercials if he doesn't need to. > > I do test for dolphin so obviously I do need to run the reader to check things > out from time to time, but even I have thought about my association for a > little. > > The only reason I don't drop it as such as its another alternitive if I ever > find something that needs the extra power. > > But really nvda will do almost everything any user needs. > > Listen to music, write email, surf the net with a brouser, even game. > > It will even do some limited to semi advanced ocr if given the right program, > maybe not that well but well enough. > > The only things against it are. > > 1. because there are no intercepts it doesn't have as many cursers and > virtual modes for advanced work. > > Of course most of us using standard software doesn't need those modes so its > largely mute. > > 2. being it uses mainstream languages and plugins it needs constant security > and other updates. > > Thats fine and all but some users don't like it. > > Though if you don't want to you don't need to load any modules bar maybe the > windows 10 and the updater if you want to keep things updated. > > They do help at least for programs you use and there are a few extras you can > use to. > > And if you don't need anything much more over really basic there is narator. > > Its not the most advanced system obviously and its only updated once or tiwice > a year with the major os updates, but its rumored to be scriptable, and will > handle chromium in some way, not tested really and will do simple tasks. > > Its not really a screen reader but if you only need to muck about with > microsoft everything its probably not a problem though nvda gives you a little > choice. > > > On 11/01/2023 7:51 am, Lindsay Cowell wrote: > > > > Hi all > > > > > > I feel like I am missing something here guys. Are there not any good games > > for PC and windows in particular any more? I can't seem to find anything, > > and when I do, it is in another language and doesn't work with Jaws. Am I > > missing something here? > > > > > > Lindsay Cowell. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#125661): https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/message/125661 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/96184035/21656 Group Owner: blind-gamers+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/leave/607459/21656/1071380848/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [blind-gamers] Am I missing something, guys?
The only issue with mist though is you can get randomly pked by other players all over the place even in citties. And you do need to buy items and really get into it. I don't know if its my scene. I also really don't want to be a gamer head like I used to. At least not till I am of thhat age my family is no more and I am waiting to die. That day may come though where I leave this world behind and exist in vr till I can't its just not that day right now is all. On 11/01/2023 8:16 am, Oriol Gómez wrote: have you tried mist world? On 1/10/23, Lindsay Cowell wrote: Hi all I feel like I am missing something here guys. Are there not any good games for PC and windows in particular any more? I can't seem to find anything, and when I do, it is in another language and doesn't work with Jaws. Am I missing something here? Lindsay Cowell. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#125660): https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/message/125660 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/96184035/21656 Group Owner: blind-gamers+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/leave/607459/21656/1071380848/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [blind-gamers] Am I missing something, guys?
Hi linsey. Yeah there are not many games anymore. There are the japanese games in general which are good and some of the chinese ones like mist. then there is ksre which is quite old on audiogames forum I forget the link. Its just been redone and its a good story. However the renpy main games page hasn't had a good load of upgrades in ages. Outside that, bar audiogame.store there isn't much. And even their latest game I have reached partly through. Its interest seems to have died down quickly so who knows. Technically there are supposed to be a few more but not much. Sadly I suspect that the audiogames industry isn't as rosy as it was ages back. In 1995 through 2010 there was great optomism for the industry as a whole. But with some mainstreaming, the fact gaming doesn't make cash, and everything else there are less devs. A few games use sapi internal os voices and tts engines, a few are self voicing and a few still exist like sbyw just ticking along but nothing new really. If you mean exactly for jaws that may be your problem. Yes some games have support for jaws but not many. With nvda about and internal support on the os pluss some self voicing themselves, there is probably not going to be actual games for jaws if not ever at least not right now. Jaws has its uses but like dolphin reader, freedomscientiffic is 1 of the last so called access business companies to still be in the market though not really for general use anymore. Put it another way no standard newly blind is going to buy jaws, or any of the other comercials if he doesn't need to. I do test for dolphin so obviously I do need to run the reader to check things out from time to time, but even I have thought about my association for a little. The only reason I don't drop it as such as its another alternitive if I ever find something that needs the extra power. But really nvda will do almost everything any user needs. Listen to music, write email, surf the net with a brouser, even game. It will even do some limited to semi advanced ocr if given the right program, maybe not that well but well enough. The only things against it are. 1. because there are no intercepts it doesn't have as many cursers and virtual modes for advanced work. Of course most of us using standard software doesn't need those modes so its largely mute. 2. being it uses mainstream languages and plugins it needs constant security and other updates. Thats fine and all but some users don't like it. Though if you don't want to you don't need to load any modules bar maybe the windows 10 and the updater if you want to keep things updated. They do help at least for programs you use and there are a few extras you can use to. And if you don't need anything much more over really basic there is narator. Its not the most advanced system obviously and its only updated once or tiwice a year with the major os updates, but its rumored to be scriptable, and will handle chromium in some way, not tested really and will do simple tasks. Its not really a screen reader but if you only need to muck about with microsoft everything its probably not a problem though nvda gives you a little choice. On 11/01/2023 7:51 am, Lindsay Cowell wrote: Hi all I feel like I am missing something here guys. Are there not any good games for PC and windows in particular any more? I can't seem to find anything, and when I do, it is in another language and doesn't work with Jaws. Am I missing something here? Lindsay Cowell. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#125659): https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/message/125659 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/96184035/21656 Group Owner: blind-gamers+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/leave/607459/21656/1071380848/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [blind-gamers] Am I missing something, guys?
I don't know about good games but I have heard that NVDA, which is a free screen reader, works better with games than JAWS does. On Jan 10, 2023 1:51 PM, Lindsay Cowell wrote: Hi all I feel like I am missing something here guys. Are there not any good games for PC and windows in particular any more? I can't seem to find anything, and when I do, it is in another language and doesn't work with Jaws. Am I missing something here? Lindsay Cowell. _._,_._,_ Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#125658) | Reply To Group | Mute This Topic | New Topic Your Subscription | Contact Group Owner | Unsubscribe [arch...@mail-archive.com] _._,_._,_
Re: [blind-gamers] Am I missing something, guys?
Nope, sometimes it just won't send. I don't have spam filtering enabled and got nothing. Tried again a few days later and got it. Then noticed that, not only were the keyboard shortcuts exceptionally bizarre, but also it needs a Java engine. I got put off very quickly at that point. Cheers. On 10/01/2023 19:29, Oriol Gómez wrote: probably went to your spam folder, it happened to me On 1/10/23, Lindsay Cowell wrote: Just trying it now, but struggling to get it to send the email with the verification code. On 10/01/2023 19:16, Oriol Gómez wrote: have you tried mist world? On 1/10/23, Lindsay Cowell wrote: Hi all I feel like I am missing something here guys. Are there not any good games for PC and windows in particular any more? I can't seem to find anything, and when I do, it is in another language and doesn't work with Jaws. Am I missing something here? Lindsay Cowell. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#125657): https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/message/125657 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/96184035/21656 Group Owner: blind-gamers+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/leave/607459/21656/1071380848/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [blind-gamers] Am I missing something, guys?
No not there. checked, and done it twice to get the code. Audio games emails were bouncing back, so I wonder if it's that. I'm in a care home, so can't mess about with their settings, oh well, I can't play that one then. On 10/01/2023 19:29, Oriol Gómez wrote: probably went to your spam folder, it happened to me On 1/10/23, Lindsay Cowell wrote: Just trying it now, but struggling to get it to send the email with the verification code. On 10/01/2023 19:16, Oriol Gómez wrote: have you tried mist world? On 1/10/23, Lindsay Cowell wrote: Hi all I feel like I am missing something here guys. Are there not any good games for PC and windows in particular any more? I can't seem to find anything, and when I do, it is in another language and doesn't work with Jaws. Am I missing something here? Lindsay Cowell. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#125656): https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/message/125656 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/96184035/21656 Group Owner: blind-gamers+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/leave/607459/21656/1071380848/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [blind-gamers] Am I missing something, guys?
Try www.audiogames.net --Matthew Chao On 1/10/2023 1:51 PM, Lindsay Cowell wrote: Hi all I feel like I am missing something here guys. Are there not any good games for PC and windows in particular any more? I can't seem to find anything, and when I do, it is in another language and doesn't work with Jaws. Am I missing something here? Lindsay Cowell. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#125655): https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/message/125655 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/96184035/21656 Group Owner: blind-gamers+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/leave/607459/21656/1071380848/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [blind-gamers] Am I missing something, guys?
probably went to your spam folder, it happened to me On 1/10/23, Lindsay Cowell wrote: > Just trying it now, but struggling to get it to send the email with the > verification code. > > > On 10/01/2023 19:16, Oriol Gómez wrote: >> have you tried mist world? >> >> On 1/10/23, Lindsay Cowell wrote: >>> Hi all >>> >>> >>> I feel like I am missing something here guys. Are there not any good >>> games for PC and windows in particular any more? I can't seem to find >>> anything, and when I do, it is in another language and doesn't work with >>> Jaws. Am I missing something here? >>> >>> >>> Lindsay Cowell. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#125654): https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/message/125654 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/96184035/21656 Group Owner: blind-gamers+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/leave/607459/21656/1071380848/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [blind-gamers] Am I missing something, guys?
Just trying it now, but struggling to get it to send the email with the verification code. On 10/01/2023 19:16, Oriol Gómez wrote: have you tried mist world? On 1/10/23, Lindsay Cowell wrote: Hi all I feel like I am missing something here guys. Are there not any good games for PC and windows in particular any more? I can't seem to find anything, and when I do, it is in another language and doesn't work with Jaws. Am I missing something here? Lindsay Cowell. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#125653): https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/message/125653 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/96184035/21656 Group Owner: blind-gamers+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/leave/607459/21656/1071380848/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: [blind-gamers] Am I missing something, guys?
have you tried mist world? On 1/10/23, Lindsay Cowell wrote: > Hi all > > > I feel like I am missing something here guys. Are there not any good > games for PC and windows in particular any more? I can't seem to find > anything, and when I do, it is in another language and doesn't work with > Jaws. Am I missing something here? > > > Lindsay Cowell. > > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#125652): https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/message/125652 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/96184035/21656 Group Owner: blind-gamers+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/leave/607459/21656/1071380848/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
