Re: [BlindHandyMan] changing the color of ceramic tile

2008-10-29 Thread Betsy Whitney
Kevin,
Have you considered a bathroom rug?
At 01:29 PM 10/27/2008, you wrote:

Well, the subject line says it. Can it be done and if so how?

BTW, this is a bath room floor.

Thanks to all.

Thanks.

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

2008-10-29 Thread Gary Hale
Does current flow to a burned out or missing light bulb when the light
switch is turned on?

Gary in TX



Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

2008-10-29 Thread Lenny McHugh
Hi Gary, When the switch is turned on current is sent to the light fixture. 
If the bulb is missing or burned out there is no completion of the circuit. 
Only when a circuit is completed is there a use of power. Like your outlets 
current is to the outlet but no use until something is plugged in or turned 
on.
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Does current flow to a burned out or missing light bulb when the light
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

2008-10-29 Thread Shawn Keen

Hi,


I was talking to a friend in London one time, and he said all the power 
plugs over there have an on off switch.  I know there system is different 
than ours. But I wonder if that would make any difference if you could turn 
plugs off if your not using them?


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Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut


 Hi Gary, When the switch is turned on current is sent to the light 
 fixture.
 If the bulb is missing or burned out there is no completion of the 
 circuit.
 Only when a circuit is completed is there a use of power. Like your 
 outlets
 current is to the outlet but no use until something is plugged in or 
 turned
 on.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:48 AM
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 Does current flow to a burned out or missing light bulb when the light
 switch is turned on?

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

2008-10-29 Thread Lenny McHugh
Hi Shawn,
It could depending on what is plugged in. For example I have my 
computer,modem etc all switched so when it is turned off nothing draws any 
power. If the appliance does not draw power when not in use it would make no 
difference such as a lamp. Other things would become a hassle when the power 
is cut, if power is cut to my cable box when turn back on it takes almost 30 
minutes for all programming to be re-initialized. Things with clocks would 
most likely have to be reset.
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Hi,


I was talking to a friend in London one time, and he said all the power
plugs over there have an on off switch.  I know there system is different
than ours. But I wonder if that would make any difference if you could turn
plugs off if your not using them?


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Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut


 Hi Gary, When the switch is turned on current is sent to the light
 fixture.
 If the bulb is missing or burned out there is no completion of the
 circuit.
 Only when a circuit is completed is there a use of power. Like your
 outlets
 current is to the outlet but no use until something is plugged in or
 turned
 on.
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[BlindHandyMan] emergency flash lights

2008-10-29 Thread Lenny McHugh
For those of you who have sighted family members in the household. I have 
two emergency battery powered lanterns and a few flashlights. From now on 
the batteries will be stored in plastic bags tied to the lanterns and 
flashlights. We just checked them since it is starting to snow and yesterday 
the snow knocked out power for a lot of people in the area. We usually don't 
get snow this early when the leaves are still on the trees knocking them 
down. Anyway when checking the lights one of the flashlights had a battery 
leak. Just glad it was not one of the expensive lanterns.
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

2008-10-29 Thread David W Wood
No, not all, only the 13A 3 rectangular pin ones at 240V.
The 2 and 5 amp ones have three round pins which sockets are not usually
individually switched.

Obviously, if the power is turned off, there is no consumption!


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Hi,


I was talking to a friend in London one time, and he said all the power 
plugs over there have an on off switch.  I know there system is different 
than ours. But I wonder if that would make any difference if you could turn 
plugs off if your not using them?


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From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:56 AM
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 Hi Gary, When the switch is turned on current is sent to the light 
 fixture.
 If the bulb is missing or burned out there is no completion of the 
 circuit.
 Only when a circuit is completed is there a use of power. Like your 
 outlets
 current is to the outlet but no use until something is plugged in or 
 turned
 on.
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 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:48 AM
 Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] News from CPSC - Two Recalls

2008-10-29 Thread Tom Fowle
Dale,
That's a cute idea,  first means of doing it that comes to me involves a 
so-called bridge rectifier directly off the battery with a single seperate 
diode that would feed a voltage to some pin in one direction and not
the other.  Only problem with this scheme is the rectifiers cause you to
lose a volt and a half of supply voltage.  There may be a more modern 
voltage regulator of the switching type that does a better job.

clever design.

Tom Fowle



Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

2008-10-29 Thread Tom Fowle
Gary,
Nope, when an incandescent bulb burns out the fillament that causes it to 
glow breaks and thus no current flows. 

I can't absolutely say for sure about fluorescent bulbs, it may be that a very
small amount of current flows through the electronic ballasts when 
the bulb dies, but I'd guess not.  

Of course if there is no bulb present no current flows, doesn't 
matter what kind of bulb you were thinking of putting in there.

Tom Fowle



Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

2008-10-29 Thread NLG
Yes it does.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Gary Hale 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 08:48
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut


  Does current flow to a burned out or missing light bulb when the light
  switch is turned on?

  Gary in TX



   

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

2008-10-29 Thread NLG
What do you mean by difference?  The outlets don't consume electricity if 
nothing is plugged into them  I am not trying to come across as a smart 
ass...It is just that the subject line doesn't indicate whether we are talking 
about saving electricity use, or what..


  - Original Message - 
  From: Shawn Keen 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 08:59
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut



  Hi,

  I was talking to a friend in London one time, and he said all the power 
  plugs over there have an on off switch. I know there system is different 
  than ours. But I wonder if that would make any difference if you could turn 
  plugs off if your not using them?

  - Original Message - 
  From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:56 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

   Hi Gary, When the switch is turned on current is sent to the light 
   fixture.
   If the bulb is missing or burned out there is no completion of the 
   circuit.
   Only when a circuit is completed is there a use of power. Like your 
   outlets
   current is to the outlet but no use until something is plugged in or 
   turned
   on.
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   From: Gary Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:48 AM
   Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
  
  
   Does current flow to a burned out or missing light bulb when the light
   switch is turned on?
  
   Gary in TX
  
  
   
  
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

2008-10-29 Thread Ron Yearns
The older magnetic ballast draw some current before the bulb is put in.  I 
believe the electronic ballasts also draw a little without the lamp..  Can't 
really say about the cf bulb after it burns out.
Ron
  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Fowle 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut


  Gary,
  Nope, when an incandescent bulb burns out the fillament that causes it to 
  glow breaks and thus no current flows. 

  I can't absolutely say for sure about fluorescent bulbs, it may be that a very
  small amount of current flows through the electronic ballasts when 
  the bulb dies, but I'd guess not. 

  Of course if there is no bulb present no current flows, doesn't 
  matter what kind of bulb you were thinking of putting in there.

  Tom Fowle



   

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

2008-10-29 Thread Ron Yearns
It goes to it, but not through it.
Ron
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  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut


  Yes it does.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Gary Hale 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 08:48
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

  Does current flow to a burned out or missing light bulb when the light
  switch is turned on?

  Gary in TX

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] motion detector

2008-10-29 Thread Spiro
put a bungy or spring on it and it could be self closing.
There must be hardware. I put something like that on the cyclone fence 
gate to keep my kid inside the yard when she was shorter. (now at 5 she's 
tall enough to operate the disengagement rod and come in and say boo of 
course chosing another direction is the problem.




On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Lenny McHugh wrote:

 That was the problem,someone went down and didn't close it. I suspect
 someone carrying something.
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 Wouldn't there be a door leading down to the basement?  If so, I'd make sure
 it's kept closed at all times.
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 Why don't you just put some carpet or something at the top of the stairs
 to
 tell you you're heading the wrong way?
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 Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 12:21 PM
 Subject: [BlindHandyMan] motion detector


 Hi All, This is a two part question post. The layout of my home is that
 from
 the kitchen into the dining room doorway about 8 inches to the righe is
 the
 doorway to the basement. A few years ago I fell thinking I was walking
 into
 the dining room and the basement door was open, oops!
 I then purchased a motion detector to warn me when I entered the doorway
 at
 the top of the basement steps. This unit lasted about 5 years and was
 around
 $14. I When it died I purchased one from Radio shack for about $30 which
 only lasted about six months. Question 1. Is there one that anyone on
 list
 would recommend?
 Doing some internet searches I came upon this information:
 Whether kids choose to set it up as a room alarm or show it off to
 friends
 as a demonstration, they'll learn about electronics as they assemble and
 experiment with the Snap Circuits Motion Detector. Once children from age
 8
 simply snap the easily identified parts onto the base by following the
 illustrated instructions, they'll have a handy device that detects
 movement
 via an infrared sensor, responding with a laser-like sound from the
 speaker
 component and a flashing red light.

 Product Features:

  a.. Whenever somebody walks in front of the Motion Detector, the sound
 of
 a laser comes out of the speaker and the red light flashes!
  b.. Easy to build, no tools needed
  c.. Snap circuit design makes it easy and fun so kids stay engaged
  d.. Requires 3 AA batteries, not included.
  e.. Ages 8+
  f.. Dr. Toy 100 Best Educational Dr. Toy Award: Best Children's Vacation
 Product


  a.. Manufactured by: Elenco.
  b..
  c.. I thought about purchasing this for a Christmas gift for my
 grandson.
 Has anyone  purchased it for their kids?
  d..
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] An Acoustics question

2008-10-29 Thread Betsy Whitney
Aloha Bill,
I'm coming in on this a bit late, but I have 
questions. I have had dehumidifiers running in my 
home for 12 years and have never found them to be 
infernally noisy. Mine turn off when the air is 
dry enough. If it is running when I want real 
quiet, I just turn it off for awhile. I have 
always had mine on the floor. I didn't want to 
run a drain hose outside so we need to be able to 
get to the container that collects the water to 
empty it. I really wonder if there is something 
wrong with your unit. Mine is sitting on the 
carpet and I just check to see of there was any 
damage to the carpet and I see nothing to 
indicate that the unit is vibrating as I think you mentioned that yours does.

I do remember that the instruction sheet that 
came with mine said to put it on the floor 
because that is where most of the moisture is, 
and to make sure that there is a minimum of 18 
inches of space around the sides and top for the best air circulation.
Betsy

At 03:59 PM 10/27/2008, you wrote:

As those of you who have them will doubtless understand, dehumidifiers are
infernally noisy. The table I have mine on is delaminating. I don’t know
if it got wet at some point, or if the dehumidifier’s just vibrating it to
death. In any case, my next adventure is going to be to build a replacement
table.

I’m almost done with the shop vac silencing cabinet, and as usual, I bought
too much acoustical tile. So, the plan is to make a table with a floor,
roof, and two sides, and line all four surfaces with acoustical (or is that
just acoustic) tile in the hope it will quiet things down some.

So, my question:

If I just have the tile on the floor of this box, the dehumidifier will very
quickly vibrate it’s way through it, and the wheels will touch the tabletop.
So, would it be better from an acoustics standpoint to remove the wheels and
have the whole surface of the bottom of the unit setting on the acoustic
tile, or should I put something like a piece of ¼ inch plywood under the
wheels, it would most likely have to be the same size as the tabletop itself
to keep from sinking.

I know we have some folks who know way more than I about how sound actually
travels, so I’ll quit now and hope they give some suggestions/answers.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] motion detector

2008-10-29 Thread Betsy Whitney
What about one of those things that are on screen doors that make 
them automatically close without slamming after they are opened?
Betsy
At 08:58 AM 10/29/2008, you wrote:

put a bungy or spring on it and it could be self closing.
There must be hardware. I put something like that on the cyclone fence
gate to keep my kid inside the yard when she was shorter. (now at 5 she's
tall enough to operate the disengagement rod and come in and say boo of
course chosing another direction is the problem.

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Lenny McHugh wrote:

  That was the problem,someone went down and didn't close it. I suspect
  someone carrying something.
  - Original Message -
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  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] motion detector
 
 
  Wouldn't there be a door leading down to the basement? If so, I'd make sure
  it's kept closed at all times.
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  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] motion detector
 
 
  Why don't you just put some carpet or something at the top of the stairs
  to
  tell you you're heading the wrong way?
  - Original Message -
  From: Lenny McHugh mailto:lmchugh%40verizon.net[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: handyman-blind 
 mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 12:21 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] motion detector
 
 
  Hi All, This is a two part question post. The layout of my home is that
  from
  the kitchen into the dining room doorway about 8 inches to the righe is
  the
  doorway to the basement. A few years ago I fell thinking I was walking
  into
  the dining room and the basement door was open, oops!
  I then purchased a motion detector to warn me when I entered the doorway
  at
  the top of the basement steps. This unit lasted about 5 years and was
  around
  $14. I When it died I purchased one from Radio shack for about $30 which
  only lasted about six months. Question 1. Is there one that anyone on
  list
  would recommend?
  Doing some internet searches I came upon this information:
  Whether kids choose to set it up as a room alarm or show it off to
  friends
  as a demonstration, they'll learn about electronics as they assemble and
  experiment with the Snap Circuits Motion Detector. Once children from age
  8
  simply snap the easily identified parts onto the base by following the
  illustrated instructions, they'll have a handy device that detects
  movement
  via an infrared sensor, responding with a laser-like sound from the
  speaker
  component and a flashing red light.
 
  Product Features:
 
  a.. Whenever somebody walks in front of the Motion Detector, the sound
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  d.. Requires 3 AA batteries, not included.
  e.. Ages 8+
  f.. Dr. Toy 100 Best Educational Dr. Toy Award: Best Children's Vacation
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  b..
  c.. I thought about purchasing this for a Christmas gift for my
  grandson.
  Has anyone purchased it for their kids?
  d..
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] vip thermostat

2008-10-29 Thread Spiro
sounds like an interface between talkingtherm and the service company is 
needed.
If the therm has a waranty, and they keep the manual of it on your file, 
then they will have what they need to hold the waranty on your job.
Maybe get the fax for the service company, and have talkingtherm fax them 
the service manual and see if an arrangement can be made.
I'm sure there is legal precident somewhere on this.
I've had similar problems asking AMPLIFIER  company A install hardware 
company B'soutput posts upgrade on an amp.
They are right until I remind them that I as an installer, have an account 
with the same hardware company as they do and that the manu says the part 
used, and the part requested have the same physical requirements and that 
I have the par and will send it at my expense for their install.
The worst I've had is a $48 waranteed service/mod from the factory. (15 
mins, I should make that kind of money all day)





On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Lenny McHugh wrote:

 Dale, you mentioned that you misplaced your cd. If you or anyone would like
 I can email the audio and text file from the origional cd. just send me a
 note at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have the files on my hard drive. Now I am not
 sure that I can install it. I just had a minor problem with my furnace and
 showed the unit to the technician. He told me that if I install it it will
 void my service contract. I called the company and they only use and stock
 honneywell round stats. If a guy is sent out at 2  A M and the problem is
 the thermostat they have no replacement or know how to re program.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] News from CPSC - Two Recalls

2008-10-29 Thread Dale Leavens
I am not an electronics wizard but couldn't it use a circuit something like the 
old Westinghouse Bridge rectifier? Regardless which polarity the battery is 
connected DC can only flow in one direction. Because the applied voltage will 
be DC either a gate or even a transistor in one leg could be used to pull a 
logic pin up or down to select one or other language circuit.

One cool thing is that it eliminates a switch and any attendant reliability 
issues.

The identifier has what appears at first glance to be a belt clip over a 
rectangular depression in one face of the device. It turns out to be part of 
the sensing mechanism. You slide one end of the bill under this clip like 
arrangement which trips the turn-on mechanism and it either announces the 
denomination or beeps a code or vibrates a code depending on a switch setting 
so it can be confidential and can be used by the deaf-blind.

So far I am impressed. Of course had they designed a more robust tactile 
differentiation it would all be unnecessary.



  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Fowle 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 1:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] News from CPSC - Two Recalls


  Dale,
  That's a cute idea, first means of doing it that comes to me involves a 
  so-called bridge rectifier directly off the battery with a single seperate 
  diode that would feed a voltage to some pin in one direction and not
  the other. Only problem with this scheme is the rectifiers cause you to
  lose a volt and a half of supply voltage. There may be a more modern 
  voltage regulator of the switching type that does a better job.

  clever design.

  Tom Fowle



   

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

2008-10-29 Thread Dale Leavens
No and no.

Not all outlets have a switch. Switching the outlet off only makes a difference 
if something is plugged into the outlet and is turned on or in some stand-by 
mode. Electricity doesn't dribble out of the outlet holes or the end of a wire 
like water.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Shawn Keen 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut



  Hi,

  I was talking to a friend in London one time, and he said all the power 
  plugs over there have an on off switch. I know there system is different 
  than ours. But I wonder if that would make any difference if you could turn 
  plugs off if your not using them?

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  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:56 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

   Hi Gary, When the switch is turned on current is sent to the light 
   fixture.
   If the bulb is missing or burned out there is no completion of the 
   circuit.
   Only when a circuit is completed is there a use of power. Like your 
   outlets
   current is to the outlet but no use until something is plugged in or 
   turned
   on.
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   Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:48 AM
   Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
  
  
   Does current flow to a burned out or missing light bulb when the light
   switch is turned on?
  
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] An Acoustics questionda

2008-10-29 Thread Bill Stephan
Dale:
When we first moved into the house, we believed we were going to have some 
pretty serious flooding problems in the basement, which is where the 
dehumidifier's located.  So, I decided to put the thing on a table, and I 
tapped into the drainage hoses for the air conditione
ing system and a humidifier that runs in conjunction with the furnace.  We 
fixed some of the problems we thought were going to cause flooding, so I could 
probably just set the thing on concrete, though I'd have to modify the drainage 
hoses, which is doable though kind of a pain.  It might be this is ultimately 
the best fix, I'll try the thing on the floor and see how much less noisy it is.
Thanks for the thoughts.



Bill Stephan, 
Kansas City MO 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Phone: (816)803-2469

-original message-
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] An Acoustics question
From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10/28/2008 18:45

Is there any particular reason why you put the humidifier on a table?


  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill Stephan 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] An Acoustics question


  Bob, I hadn't thought about the mess wet tiles would be. I actually had the 
thing on a couple sheets of packing foam and it was still pretty loud. I hadn't 
thought of Dale's bungy cord idea either, but I think the cabinet idea is a 
dead issue.

  Bill Stephan, 
  Kansas City MO 
  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Phone: (816)803-2469

  -original message-
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] An Acoustics question
  From: Bob Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 10/28/2008 05:01

  My first concern with a cabinet for a dehumidifier is air flow. Setting one 
inside anything is going to restrict air flow to the unit and therefore 
efficiency. Also the tiles may collect some of the moisture and come apart. 

  The suspension idea sounds like one to consider, but balance would worry me. 
The other thing you can try is putting a rug or thick rubber mat under the unit 
on the table it's on already. The wheels are probably vibrating against the 
surface causeing the extra noise. Something to cushion the wheels will take a 
lot of the noise away. Maybe one of those anit fatigue mats everyone is selling 
now.
  - Original Message - 
  From: William Stephan 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 9:59 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] An Acoustics question

  As those of you who have them will doubtless understand, dehumidifiers are
  infernally noisy. The table I have mine on is delaminating. I don't know
  if it got wet at some point, or if the dehumidifier's just vibrating it to
  death. In any case, my next adventure is going to be to build a replacement
  table.

  I'm almost done with the shop vac silencing cabinet, and as usual, I bought
  too much acoustical tile. So, the plan is to make a table with a floor,
  roof, and two sides, and line all four surfaces with acoustical (or is that
  just acoustic) tile in the hope it will quiet things down some.

  So, my question:

  If I just have the tile on the floor of this box, the dehumidifier will very
  quickly vibrate it's way through it, and the wheels will touch the tabletop.
  So, would it be better from an acoustics standpoint to remove the wheels and
  have the whole surface of the bottom of the unit setting on the acoustic
  tile, or should I put something like a piece of ¼ inch plywood under the
  wheels, it would most likely have to be the same size as the tabletop itself
  to keep from sinking. 

  I know we have some folks who know way more than I about how sound actually
  travels, so I'll quit now and hope they give some suggestions/answers.

  Thanks in advance.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] News from CPSC - Two Recalls

2008-10-29 Thread Tom Fowle
Dale,
Yep, a bridge is how I'd do it too, but there are so many new
switching regulators out there there might be something
that eliminates the 1.5 volt drop of the bridge.

Our U.S. department of engraving still whines about 
different sized bills and wants to put bumps on them
which will wear off or get torn off in a new york minute.
Humbug on them all.

Tom



Re: [BlindHandyMan] An Acoustics question

2008-10-29 Thread Bill Stephan




Bill Stephan, 
Kansas City MO 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Phone: (816)803-2469

-original message-
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] An Acoustics question
From: Betsy Whitney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10/29/2008 14:27

Aloha Bill,
I'm coming in on this a bit late, but I have 
questions. I have had dehumidifiers running in my 
home for 12 years and have never found them to be 
infernally noisy. Mine turn off when the air is 
dry enough. If it is running when I want real 
quiet, I just turn it off for awhile. I have 
always had mine on the floor. I didn't want to 
run a drain hose outside so we need to be able to 
get to the container that collects the water to 
empty it. I really wonder if there is something 
wrong with your unit. Mine is sitting on the 
carpet and I just check to see of there was any 
damage to the carpet and I see nothing to 
indicate that the unit is vibrating as I think you mentioned that yours does.

I do remember that the instruction sheet that 
came with mine said to put it on the floor 
because that is where most of the moisture is, 
and to make sure that there is a minimum of 18 
inches of space around the sides and top for the best air circulation.
Betsy

At 03:59 PM 10/27/2008, you wrote:

As those of you who have them will doubtless understand, dehumidifiers are
infernally noisy. The table I have mine on is delaminating. I don’t know
if it got wet at some point, or if the dehumidifier’s just vibrating it to
death. In any case, my next adventure is going to be to build a replacement
table.

I’m almost done with the shop vac silencing cabinet, and as usual, I bought
too much acoustical tile. So, the plan is to make a table with a floor,
roof, and two sides, and line all four surfaces with acoustical (or is that
just acoustic) tile in the hope it will quiet things down some.

So, my question:

If I just have the tile on the floor of this box, the dehumidifier will very
quickly vibrate it’s way through it, and the wheels will touch the tabletop.
So, would it be better from an acoustics standpoint to remove the wheels and
have the whole surface of the bottom of the unit setting on the acoustic
tile, or should I put something like a piece of ¼ inch plywood under the
wheels, it would most likely have to be the same size as the tabletop itself
to keep from sinking.

I know we have some folks who know way more than I about how sound actually
travels, so I’ll quit now and hope they give some suggestions/answers.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] An Acoustics question

2008-10-29 Thread Bill Stephan
Betsy:
I guess infernally noisy is a relative term, and how loud these things are 
probably depends on where they're running.  Mine's in a basemem
nt with a lot of open space and no carpeting a
or anything to absorb sound.  This is actually the third unit I've had in four 
years, and all have been annoyingly loud.
I like to go to the basement and read, think about things and drink cheap 
scotch of an evening, and I actually  do have the dehumidifier on a time 
switch, but I'd still like to quiet the thing down.  I'm going to see how 
moving it to the floor works though.



Bill Stephan, 
Kansas City MO 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Phone: (816)803-2469

-original message-
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] An Acoustics question
From: Betsy Whitney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10/29/2008 14:27

Aloha Bill,
I'm coming in on this a bit late, but I have 
questions. I have had dehumidifiers running in my 
home for 12 years and have never found them to be 
infernally noisy. Mine turn off when the air is 
dry enough. If it is running when I want real 
quiet, I just turn it off for awhile. I have 
always had mine on the floor. I didn't want to 
run a drain hose outside so we need to be able to 
get to the container that collects the water to 
empty it. I really wonder if there is something 
wrong with your unit. Mine is sitting on the 
carpet and I just check to see of there was any 
damage to the carpet and I see nothing to 
indicate that the unit is vibrating as I think you mentioned that yours does.

I do remember that the instruction sheet that 
came with mine said to put it on the floor 
because that is where most of the moisture is, 
and to make sure that there is a minimum of 18 
inches of space around the sides and top for the best air circulation.
Betsy

At 03:59 PM 10/27/2008, you wrote:

As those of you who have them will doubtless understand, dehumidifiers are
infernally noisy. The table I have mine on is delaminating. I don’t know
if it got wet at some point, or if the dehumidifier’s just vibrating it to
death. In any case, my next adventure is going to be to build a replacement
table.

I’m almost done with the shop vac silencing cabinet, and as usual, I bought
too much acoustical tile. So, the plan is to make a table with a floor,
roof, and two sides, and line all four surfaces with acoustical (or is that
just acoustic) tile in the hope it will quiet things down some.

So, my question:

If I just have the tile on the floor of this box, the dehumidifier will very
quickly vibrate it’s way through it, and the wheels will touch the tabletop.
So, would it be better from an acoustics standpoint to remove the wheels and
have the whole surface of the bottom of the unit setting on the acoustic
tile, or should I put something like a piece of ¼ inch plywood under the
wheels, it would most likely have to be the same size as the tabletop itself
to keep from sinking.

I know we have some folks who know way more than I about how sound actually
travels, so I’ll quit now and hope they give some suggestions/answers.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] An Acoustics question

2008-10-29 Thread Betsy Whitney
Bill,
Does your dehumidifier gather a lot of water? 
Ours has a 24 pint container to gather the water 
and then we just dump it. If it gets full, the 
unit just turns itself off. We generally don't 
have to empty it more than every ten days, and 
that's when things are really really wet. This 
might be an easier solution than redoing the 
drainage hose system. However, if you don't have 
a sink in which you could empty the container in 
your basement, then it would be a problem to 
carry the container upstairs to empty it.
Betsy
At 11:27 AM 10/29/2008, you wrote:

Dale:
When we first moved into the house, we believed 
we were going to have some pretty serious 
flooding problems in the basement, which is 
where the dehumidifier's located. So, I decided 
to put the thing on a table, and I tapped into 
the drainage hoses for the air conditione
ing system and a humidifier that runs in 
conjunction with the furnace. We fixed some of 
the problems we thought were going to cause 
flooding, so I could probably just set the thing 
on concrete, though I'd have to modify the 
drainage hoses, which is doable though kind of a 
pain. It might be this is ultimately the best 
fix, I'll try the thing on the floor and see how much less noisy it is.
Thanks for the thoughts.

Bill Stephan,
Kansas City MO
Email: mailto:wstephan%40everestkc.net[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: (816)803-2469

-original message-
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] An Acoustics question
From: Dale Leavens mailto:dleavens%40puc.net[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10/28/2008 18:45

Is there any particular reason why you put the humidifier on a table?

- Original Message -
From: Bill Stephan
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] An Acoustics question

Bob, I hadn't thought about the mess wet tiles 
would be. I actually had the thing on a couple 
sheets of packing foam and it was still pretty 
loud. I hadn't thought of Dale's bungy cord idea 
either, but I think the cabinet idea is a dead issue.

Bill Stephan,
Kansas City MO
Email: mailto:wstephan%40everestkc.net[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: (816)803-2469

-original message-
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] An Acoustics question
From: Bob Kennedy mailto:bobken54%40bellsouth.net[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10/28/2008 05:01

My first concern with a cabinet for a 
dehumidifier is air flow. Setting one inside 
anything is going to restrict air flow to the 
unit and therefore efficiency. Also the tiles 
may collect some of the moisture and come apart.

The suspension idea sounds like one to consider, 
but balance would worry me. The other thing you 
can try is putting a rug or thick rubber mat 
under the unit on the table it's on already. The 
wheels are probably vibrating against the 
surface causeing the extra noise. Something to 
cushion the wheels will take a lot of the noise 
away. Maybe one of those anit fatigue mats everyone is selling now.
- Original Message -
From: William Stephan
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 9:59 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] An Acoustics question

As those of you who have them will doubtless understand, dehumidifiers are
infernally noisy. The table I have mine on is delaminating. I don't know
if it got wet at some point, or if the dehumidifier's just vibrating it to
death. In any case, my next adventure is going to be to build a replacement
table.

I'm almost done with the shop vac silencing cabinet, and as usual, I bought
too much acoustical tile. So, the plan is to make a table with a floor,
roof, and two sides, and line all four surfaces with acoustical (or is that
just acoustic) tile in the hope it will quiet things down some.

So, my question:

If I just have the tile on the floor of this box, the dehumidifier will very
quickly vibrate it's way through it, and the wheels will touch the tabletop.
So, would it be better from an acoustics standpoint to remove the wheels and
have the whole surface of the bottom of the unit setting on the acoustic
tile, or should I put something like a piece of ¼ inch plywood under the
wheels, it would most likely have to be the same size as the tabletop itself
to keep from sinking.

I know we have some folks who know way more than I about how sound actually
travels, so I'll quit now and hope they give some suggestions/answers.

Thanks in advance.

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[BlindHandyMan] cute new gizmo just for ducks.

2008-10-29 Thread Tom Fowle
A colleague just read me a brief blerb about a new power device
that gets some small amount of electricity from Piezo sensors.
The 'Joule theif
as in Joules of energy, can power small 3.3 volt electronics
from vibrations that are said to be below the threshold detectable by people.

They tout it for remote sensing as in temperature/pressure etc, and have a
demo kit with a microcontroller and wireless transmitter.

We may get one just to fiddle with.

No particular BHM application, just a cute idea I thought I'd
pass along for fun.

tom Fowle



Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

2008-10-29 Thread Jewel
If there are inquisitive kids in the house, it is advisable to turn the switch 
to off if there is
nothing plugged into the socket so that if the little darlings poke a metal 
object into one of those
inviting little holes, the aforesaid ld won't get a shock that it won't forget 
for a good long time.
Of Course, there is nothing to stop our what will happen if? budding inventor 
from turning the
switch to on, but you, the responsible adult, has done his/her best.
Probably better than relying on the off position of the switch to protect 
children, is a plug
guard, which is a simulated plug that fits very tightly into an unused socket.

 Jewel



Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

2008-10-29 Thread Max Robinson
If we speak, and write, unclearly we will think unclearly.  Current is the 
movement of electrons through the wires, light bulb, Motor, etc.  Electrons 
are actual things.  They have mass and occupy space.  They can only flow 
through a complete circuit.  If the light is burned out the circuit is open, 
not complete, and no current can flow.  To say there is current is 
incorrect.  There is voltage present but there isn't any current.  Think of 
a water pipe.  Voltage is analogous to pressure and current is analogous to 
the flow of water.  When the main valve at the water meter is turned off 
there is no pressure and no water will flow because there isn't any pressure 
to drive it.  When the valve is turned on there is pressure but there won't 
be any flow unless a faucet is open somewhere in the house.  In electricity 
power is voltage times current.  If either one is zero there is no power. 
Turning off empty sockets has no benefit because the faucets are not open so 
to speak.

Regards.

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- Original Message - 
From: Lenny McHugh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut


 Hi Gary, When the switch is turned on current is sent to the light 
 fixture.
 If the bulb is missing or burned out there is no completion of the 
 circuit.
 Only when a circuit is completed is there a use of power. Like your 
 outlets
 current is to the outlet but no use until something is plugged in or 
 turned
 on.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 9:48 AM
 Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut


 Does current flow to a burned out or missing light bulb when the light
 switch is turned on?

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] cute new gizmo just for ducks.

2008-10-29 Thread Dale Leavens
I don't know about that.

Say, a few elements in the glue under tiles at the top of the basement stairs. 
The alarm would sound even during a power failure.

I wonder how much power can be generated? 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tom Fowle 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 6:02 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] cute new gizmo just for ducks.


  A colleague just read me a brief blerb about a new power device
  that gets some small amount of electricity from Piezo sensors.
  The 'Joule theif
  as in Joules of energy, can power small 3.3 volt electronics
  from vibrations that are said to be below the threshold detectable by people.

  They tout it for remote sensing as in temperature/pressure etc, and have a
  demo kit with a microcontroller and wireless transmitter.

  We may get one just to fiddle with.

  No particular BHM application, just a cute idea I thought I'd
  pass along for fun.

  tom Fowle



   

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] cute new gizmo just for ducks.

2008-10-29 Thread Tom Fowle
Dale,
The blerb didn't spec the amount of power available, might not be enough to
sound an audible alarm, although probably enough to send a radio signal 
to a main alarm panel which could have batteries.  this gizmo would elminate
the need for batteries in sensors

tom



Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

2008-10-29 Thread Max Robinson
Gary asked.

  Does current flow to a burned out or missing light bulb when the light
  switch is turned on?

Then NLG replied.

 Yes it does.

I beg to differ.  Current can not pass through an open circuit.  When a 
light bulb is burned out its filament is open.  Current cannot possibly flow 
through an open circuit.  That's a law of physics and you can't get around 
it.

Regards.

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From: NLG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut


 Yes it does.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Gary Hale
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 08:48
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut


  Does current flow to a burned out or missing light bulb when the light
  switch is turned on?

  Gary in TX





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[BlindHandyMan] cheap way to cover bundles of wires:

2008-10-29 Thread Tom Fowle
Here's a handy idea a colleague technician suggested which I used successfully

I wanted to wrap something around 2 wires from a temperature sensor 
to make a neat cable.  The sensor came with 2 3 foot teflon wires, but nothing
to hold them together.

You can get teflon shrink tubing but it is expensive 
and tends to be kind of stiff.

My colleague, martin, suggested using teflon
plumber's tape thusly.

I fixed two pegs to clamps on the edge of my bench so that they stuck
up a few inches in the air far enough apart
to hold the wires.  I filed slots in the tops of these pegs to hold
the wires and taped them in place so the wires were 
neatly stretched out above the bench edge.

I took plumber's teflon tape, rolls cost a buck or so
from any hard warestore, and started near one end of the wires.

First I wrapped two or three turns over top of each other going around the 
wires, and holding a little pressure.  The tape isn't sticky but sticks to its
self when pulled only slightly tight.

Then I began wrapping the tape in a spiral
around the wires trying to keep maybe a 30 degree angle
where the tape left the wires so as to make the spiral.  Make sure each wrap
covers the previous one by about half the tape width.

It is not, as you may think, a fussy or critical
job, it just takes a bit of time.

As long as there is some slight tension as you wrap, it comes out 
fine and makes a nice neat, non-meltable covering.

I slipped short lengths of actual shrink tubing over the ends, one where the
wires came from the temperature probe, and one where I soldered the wires
into a 1/4 inch plug.  These make sure the ends of the teflon tape stay put.

Shrink the tubing with your heat gun, or someone's hot breath if available,
and you're done.

It's been kicking round the lab for a week during testing and hasn't fallen 
apart yet.

This scheme would be hard to do for longer lengths, but worked great for this
setup.

Apparrently even though my wraps aren't perfectly even, it looks fine.

Have fun
Tom Fowle



RE: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

2008-10-29 Thread Gary Hale
Max wrote, in part:

 If we speak, and write, unclearly we will think unclearly.  snip

That statement applies to questions as well as answers. My question was
vague and unclear. But as a result, I've learned a lot from the discussion.

Thanks to everyone!

Gary

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 From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of Max Robinson
 Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 5:24 PM
 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
 
 If we speak, and write, unclearly we will think unclearly. Current is the
 movement of electrons through the wires, light bulb, Motor, etc. Electrons
 are actual things. They have mass and occupy space. They can only flow
 through a complete circuit. If the light is burned out the circuit is
open,
 not complete, and no current can flow. To say there is current is
 incorrect. There is voltage present but there isn't any current. Think of
 a water pipe. Voltage is analogous to pressure and current is analogous to
 the flow of water. When the main valve at the water meter is turned off
 there is no pressure and no water will flow because there isn't any
pressure
 to drive it. When the valve is turned on there is pressure but there won't
 be any flow unless a faucet is open somewhere in the house. In electricity
 power is voltage times current. If either one is zero there is no power.
 Turning off empty sockets has no benefit because the faucets are not open
so
 to speak.
 
 Regards.
 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] cute new gizmo just for ducks.

2008-10-29 Thread cheetah
so if you put them on duck feet and have them walk on a mechanical tred mill 
you could power the whole lab?
Jim


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[BlindHandyMan] product Recall

2008-10-29 Thread Lenny McHugh

Cybex International Recalls Treadmills Due to Fall Hazard; Can Speed Up 
Unexpectedly (http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml09/09026.html)

*

NEWS from CPSC
U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission
Office of Information and Public Affairs
Washington, DC 20207

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
October 29, 2008
Release #09-026

Firm's Recall Hotline: (866) 897-9199
CPSC Recall Hotline: (800) 638-2772
CPSC Media Contact: (301) 504-7908

Cybex International Recalls Treadmills Due to Fall Hazard; Can Speed Up 
Unexpectedly

WASHINGTON, D.C. - The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, in 
cooperation with the firm named below, today announced a voluntary recall of 
the following consumer product. Consumers should stop using recalled 
products immediately unless otherwise instructed.

Name of Product: Cybex Treadmills

Units: About 19,000

Manufacturer: Cybex International Inc., of Medway, Mass.

Hazard: The treadmills can speed up unexpectedly while in use due to a 
malfunction with the lower control board, posing a fall hazard to consumers.

Incidents/Injuries: Cybex International has received 24 reports of incidents 
involving the treadmill unexpectedly increasing speed, including six reports 
of consumers falling. Three of those incidents resulted in minor injuries.

Description: The recall involves the Cybex 445T, 455T, 530T, 450T, 500T, 
515T, and 520T treadmill models. The treadmills are black and gray with 
rectangular uprights. The 530T style treadmill is 81 inches long by 32 
inches wide. The 445T style treadmill is 72 inches long by 32 inches wide. 
The treadmills have a display panel on a console as wide as the treadmill. 
Cybex and the model number are written on the console.

Sold at: Cybex International and Cybex dealers nationwide from January 2001 
through September 2008 for between $5,500 and $7,000.

Manufactured in: United States

Remedy: Consumers should immediately unplug and stop using the recalled 
treadmills. Contact Cybex to receive a free replacement fuse. If requested, 
a Cybex technician can install the fuse free of charge. Cybex is directly 
contacting known purchasers.

Consumer Contact: For additional information, contact Cybex toll free at 
(866) 897-9199 between 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. ET Monday through Friday, or visit 
the firm's Web site at www.Cybexintl.com

To see this recall on CPSC's web site, including pictures of the recalled 
products, please go to:
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

2008-10-29 Thread cheetah
but what about the learning effect?
I mean when sed little darling sticks something in the outlet and gets knocked 
on his little but he will figure out that, hay maybe that wasn't such a good 
idea?

it worked for me!
no I didn't put anything in the outlet but I touched the prongs of a plug I was 
plugging in and out and wow!!! ouch
don't touch those.
Jim



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] cute new gizmo just for ducks.

2008-10-29 Thread Tom Fowle
Jim,
I don't think you could power the pooper-scoopers you'd need to clean the
tred mill! after the ducks! GRIN

Tom



Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

2008-10-29 Thread Jewel
The light bulb may be inactive, but I believe that the socket into which you 
plug it is not.
Therefore, when I have to change a bulb, I always turn the power off at the 
mains.

   Jewel



Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

2008-10-29 Thread Jimmy Podsim
Yes, you are correct on this one.  If nobody believes it just simply stick your 
finger in there and it'll make a believer out of you.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Jewel 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 6:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut


  The light bulb may be inactive, but I believe that the socket into which you 
plug it is not.
  Therefore, when I have to change a bulb, I always turn the power off at the 
mains.

  Jewel



   

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

2008-10-29 Thread Tom Fowle
Jewel,
You're of course correct, there is voltage at the light socket
even when there is nothing in said socket, but there is no current flow
until you, or a less intelligent consumer, sticks something in
the socket.

It's, as max says so well, the difference between voltage and current.

There is a tendency to refer to electrical current as a a generic
for voltage which it isn't.Saying is ther current present' is not correct,
there can be voltage present, but no current flowing.

I'm sure we all get it, but its better
to keep terms straight.

Tom Fowle



Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

2008-10-29 Thread NLG
OK, I stand corrected  For safety reasons though, I wouldn't be sticking my 
finger a screwdriver or anything else in a light socket without turning the 
switch off.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Max Robinson 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 17:31
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut


  Gary asked.

   Does current flow to a burned out or missing light bulb when the light
   switch is turned on?

  Then NLG replied.

   Yes it does.

  I beg to differ. Current can not pass through an open circuit. When a 
  light bulb is burned out its filament is open. Current cannot possibly flow 
  through an open circuit. That's a law of physics and you can't get around 
  it.

  Regards.

  Max. K 4 O D S.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: NLG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut

   Yes it does.
  
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: Gary Hale
   To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 08:48
   Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] electrical power uses cut
  
  
   Does current flow to a burned out or missing light bulb when the light
   switch is turned on?
  
   Gary in TX
  
  
  
  
  
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