Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance
Interesting I had not noticed this resistor. I'll do some careful resistance checks next time I am in one of these buggers. Additionaly ceiling fans also use a two section capacitor so section a alone, or b alone, or both are connected into the winding circuit for speed change. Ron - Original Message - From: Max Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance This message has two paragraphs. If you think you are not interested in the first one, skip to the second one. Actually I am betting on congealed oil in the bearings. About the only cure for this is to dissolve it with new oil. The right way to do it would be to tear down the motor and clean out the bearings with kerosene but that's a lot more work then a couple of drops of oil. Dan. Some of those box fans place a resistor in series to cause more slippage in the induction motor and let the fan run slow. This works with a fan because the load on the motor is always the same at a given speed. The resistor is usually not recognizable as a resistor but is distributed along the cable connecting the switch to the motor. In such a fan the cable will feel slightly warm after prolonged operation at medium or slow speed. The distributed resistor can become open, that is, burned out, although there is not likely to be any burned smell or scorched insulation. The fan might be repaired by replacing the resistance cable with a discrete resistor. A more usual way of changing the speed of a fan is to have taps on the motor winding. Such tapped windings are more expensive to manufacture than a simple coil. Which method is used is an economic decision by the manufacturer. Whether a tapped motor winding or a resistance cable costs more. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance Just out of curiosity, can Max or Tom shed a bit more light on the fan subject? I wonder if it is not something electronic and not just mechanical, such as burned out coils on the transformer or something like that. I also had a big box fan that I ran every night for white noise. I ran it on medium speed for years. After a long time, if I turned the fan on medium it would not start turning. I could possibly feel a bit of vibration like it might sort of been trying to turn, but it just wouldn't get started. However, if I turned it on low or high, it worked just fine. If I turned it on high, let it get started, then turned it to medium, sometimes it would stay going, but more often than not it would just slow to a stop. Later. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: (412) 268-9081 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.0/420 - Release Date: 8/16/06 To listen to the show archives go
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance
Some of these fans are made so you can't take them apart without some effort. But it is a good ideal to lubricate the bearing. I use a little Vaseline on the shaft that seems to work well. RJ - Original Message - From: Jennifer Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 10:51 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance Ok, this question also involves a true confession. *smile* I have a fan that I use every night and is about three years old. I have never done any kind of eminence to it. It has gotten where it will not run on low and hesitates before it starts on high. Obviously I need to pull it apart and clean the blades and all, but should I do some special kind of oiling? Jennifer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/419 - Release Date: 8/15/06 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance
Just out of curiosity, can Max or Tom shed a bit more light on the fan subject? I wonder if it is not something electronic and not just mechanical, such as burned out coils on the transformer or something like that. I also had a big box fan that I ran every night for white noise. I ran it on medium speed for years. After a long time, if I turned the fan on medium it would not start turning. I could possibly feel a bit of vibration like it might sort of been trying to turn, but it just wouldn't get started. However, if I turned it on low or high, it worked just fine. If I turned it on high, let it get started, then turned it to medium, sometimes it would stay going, but more often than not it would just slow to a stop. Later. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel:(412) 268-9081 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance
That sounds more like dirty contacts on the switch that selects speed. Unless the fan is intended to run off other power sources than house mains, there's no transformer or other electronics. Jay - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance Just out of curiosity, can Max or Tom shed a bit more light on the fan subject? I wonder if it is not something electronic and not just mechanical, such as burned out coils on the transformer or something like that. I also had a big box fan that I ran every night for white noise. I ran it on medium speed for years. After a long time, if I turned the fan on medium it would not start turning. I could possibly feel a bit of vibration like it might sort of been trying to turn, but it just wouldn't get started. However, if I turned it on low or high, it worked just fine. If I turned it on high, let it get started, then turned it to medium, sometimes it would stay going, but more often than not it would just slow to a stop. Later. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: (412) 268-9081 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance
Larry, You'd better add a solution to the very real problem of removing the metal shaards from drilling that hole. Those will chew up the bearing nicely. Jay - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com; blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance OK guys, Here comes an old farm-boy shade-tree trick. It has worked well on the squirrel cage fan in my furnace now for about two years. If you can get to the rear of the motor you will feel a small raised circular portion of the motor's back cover. This houses the rear shaft bushing. Drill a 1/8 whole in the center of this raised area and squirt a very small amount of lubricant into the whole, preferably a light Greece. This lubricant will have a tendency to attract dust so please-please-please seal the whole with a dab of silicone. Observe the obvious precautions *make certain the power to the motor is turned off.* * if you are concerned about drilling to deeply put a wrap of tape of string or something around your bit. I like to use a small length of vacuum hose exposing approximately1/8 2 1/4 inch of drill bit. At 11:47 AM 8/16/2006 -0400, Dan Rossi wrote: Just out of curiosity, can Max or Tom shed a bit more light on the fan subject? I wonder if it is not something electronic and not just mechanical, such as burned out coils on the transformer or something like that. I also had a big box fan that I ran every night for white noise. I ran it on medium speed for years. After a long time, if I turned the fan on medium it would not start turning. I could possibly feel a bit of vibration like it might sort of been trying to turn, but it just wouldn't get started. However, if I turned it on low or high, it worked just fine. If I turned it on high, let it get started, then turned it to medium, sometimes it would stay going, but more often than not it would just slow to a stop. Later. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel:(412) 268-9081 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.0/420 - Release Date: 8/16/2006 Regards Larry Stansifer Toll Free 1 (800)-527-9572 Voice: 1 (435)-688-1391 Fax: 1 (435) 628-6981 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.0/420 - Release Date: 8/16/2006 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance
I agree with Jay's observations, but don't see why conservative oil quantity is required, with the fan's I've oiled I just flood the bloody thing. I've kept an old box fan and a bathroom fan which won't take the so-called replacement motor, for years that way not perfect, and never as quiet as originally but theywork Tom To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance
It's so much simpler than that, you engineers, GRIN a bad contact on the switch most likely. Never seen a fan with a transformer, motors like 110 volts. There may be modern fans with electronic speed controls, and that could be a different kettle of oily fish. Tom To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance
ron, Very good detail, but I've seen motors put together with long rivvets, and that would make taking them appart more than the fan would be worth. Probably the older the fan the more likely it is to be repairable. Tom To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance
Yep that can happen with the newer imports. In that case you drill out the rivets and reinstall 1/8 inch all thread with nuts and cut off the excess rod after installed. More trouble than it is worth? Maybe, but what is my time worth when I am working for myself. Particulary when I am repairing something they designed to be non serviceable.. Ron - Original Message - From: Tom Fowle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance ron, Very good detail, but I've seen motors put together with long rivvets, and that would make taking them appart more than the fan would be worth. Probably the older the fan the more likely it is to be repairable. Tom To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.0/420 - Release Date: 8/16/06 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance
Ahh, I think that is normally referred to as 60 hertz or 60 cycle. Ron - Original Message - From: Jay Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance Your ceiling fan is running from 120hz alternating current as is anything running off your house current. Anything with a motor or transformer will generate this hum, acoustically, so any surface in contact with the motor or transformer becomes a soundingboard. A ceiling is one humongoloid soundingboard. Some sort of shockmounts are needed to isolate the appliance from its soundingboard. Jay - Original Message - From: Shawn Keen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance Oo, good topic, what causes fans to humm? Sealing fans that is. - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance Just out of curiosity, can Max or Tom shed a bit more light on the fan subject? I wonder if it is not something electronic and not just mechanical, such as burned out coils on the transformer or something like that. I also had a big box fan that I ran every night for white noise. I ran it on medium speed for years. After a long time, if I turned the fan on medium it would not start turning. I could possibly feel a bit of vibration like it might sort of been trying to turn, but it just wouldn't get started. However, if I turned it on low or high, it worked just fine. If I turned it on high, let it get started, then turned it to medium, sometimes it would stay going, but more often than not it would just slow to a stop. Later. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: (412) 268-9081 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/419 - Release Date: 8/15/2006 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.0/420 - Release Date: 8/16/06 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show
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You are only going through at best 16-gage soft metal and the shaving follows the flute of the drill bit to the outside. I've done this probably a dozen times in my life with no negative side effects. You may have a situation where the bushing is so worn that no amount of lubrication will help At 10:26 AM 8/16/2006 -0700, Jay Williams wrote: Larry, You'd better add a solution to the very real problem of removing the metal shaards from drilling that hole. Those will chew up the bearing nicely. Jay - Original Message - From: Larry Stansifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com; blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance OK guys, Here comes an old farm-boy shade-tree trick. It has worked well on the squirrel cage fan in my furnace now for about two years. If you can get to the rear of the motor you will feel a small raised circular portion of the motor's back cover. This houses the rear shaft bushing. Drill a 1/8 whole in the center of this raised area and squirt a very small amount of lubricant into the whole, preferably a light Greece. This lubricant will have a tendency to attract dust so please-please-please seal the whole with a dab of silicone. Observe the obvious precautions *make certain the power to the motor is turned off.* * if you are concerned about drilling to deeply put a wrap of tape of string or something around your bit. I like to use a small length of vacuum hose exposing approximately1/8 2 1/4 inch of drill bit. At 11:47 AM 8/16/2006 -0400, Dan Rossi wrote: Just out of curiosity, can Max or Tom shed a bit more light on the fan subject? I wonder if it is not something electronic and not just mechanical, such as burned out coils on the transformer or something like that. I also had a big box fan that I ran every night for white noise. I ran it on medium speed for years. After a long time, if I turned the fan on medium it would not start turning. I could possibly feel a bit of vibration like it might sort of been trying to turn, but it just wouldn't get started. However, if I turned it on low or high, it worked just fine. If I turned it on high, let it get started, then turned it to medium, sometimes it would stay going, but more often than not it would just slow to a stop. Later. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel:(412) 268-9081 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.0/420 - Release Date: 8/16/2006 Regards Larry Stansifer Toll Free 1 (800)-527-9572 Voice: 1 (435)-688-1391 Fax: 1 (435) 628-6981 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.0/420 - Release Date: 8/16/2006 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml
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Oh, that was cute. I called it 120hz cuz I was hearing the note in my head, so I stand corrected. The actual ac frequency is, of course, 60hz but since there are positive and negative peaks the predominant note it twice that. Jay - Original Message - From: jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance they hum because they forgot the words. no room in there for much memmory. jim At 11:02 AM 8/16/2006, you wrote: Oo, good topic, what causes fans to humm? Sealing fans that is. - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance Just out of curiosity, can Max or Tom shed a bit more light on the fan subject? I wonder if it is not something electronic and not just mechanical, such as burned out coils on the transformer or something like that. I also had a big box fan that I ran every night for white noise. I ran it on medium speed for years. After a long time, if I turned the fan on medium it would not start turning. I could possibly feel a bit of vibration like it might sort of been trying to turn, but it just wouldn't get started. However, if I turned it on low or high, it worked just fine. If I turned it on high, let it get started, then turned it to medium, sometimes it would stay going, but more often than not it would just slow to a stop. Later. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: (412) 268-9081 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/419 - Release Date: 8/15/2006 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.1/421 - Release Date: 8/16/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.1/421 - Release Date: 8/16/2006 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files
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My guess is that some or most of the coils of the particular winding for the medium speed had shorted or burned out. There was enough magnetic field to disturb metal in the area or to maintain a little movement once inertia and momentum were overcome for a time at least. I have a big industrial type ceiling fan I used to have installed in an office once to drive the overhead heat supply down to where we people lived. Well it operated for many years from one of those variable speed varactors I think they are called, a dimmer switch but eventually the draw has caused enough of the windings to fail that the top speed is only a few RPM and it hums like an entire choir that has forgotten the words. I would dearly love to find another which would operate from a dimmer for the infinitely variable characteristics but they seem to be unavailable. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: Jay Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance That sounds more like dirty contacts on the switch that selects speed. Unless the fan is intended to run off other power sources than house mains, there's no transformer or other electronics. Jay - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Fan maintenance Just out of curiosity, can Max or Tom shed a bit more light on the fan subject? I wonder if it is not something electronic and not just mechanical, such as burned out coils on the transformer or something like that. I also had a big box fan that I ran every night for white noise. I ran it on medium speed for years. After a long time, if I turned the fan on medium it would not start turning. I could possibly feel a bit of vibration like it might sort of been trying to turn, but it just wouldn't get started. However, if I turned it on low or high, it worked just fine. If I turned it on high, let it get started, then turned it to medium, sometimes it would stay going, but more often than not it would just slow to a stop. Later. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: (412) 268-9081 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.9/417 - Release Date: 11/08/2006 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go
