Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Completed
sounds great. What did you decide to do with the siding/ vinyl repair? On Sun, 6 Sep 2009, Edward Przybylek wrote: Hi all, I just want to say thanks for all the excellent suggestions and advice everyone provided on my mailbox problem. I installed the mailbox post yesterday with a friend of mine. The final design is a conglomerate of ideas from your posts. The new post, a six-by-six lenth of pressure treated lumber, is buried in the ground about two feet and rests on a rather large stone at the bottom of the hole. Conveniently, the stone was at the bottom of the hole and we gave up trying to dig deeper when, after half an hour, we couldn't get the damn thing out of our way. We poured about fourteen inches of concrete into the hole and then placed a ten inch Sonotube into the hole around the post. We then filled the Sonotube with concrete to about eighteen inches above the top of the soil. I checked the post about an hour ago and it feels quite solid and, in my mind's eye, looks really good. I've already gotten three comments from my neighbors and they pretty much agree with me. Two neighbors said they'd hate to be in the car or truck that ever hits my post. Next year, when the pressure treated post has had some time to dry, I plan to paint the post the same color as my house. Thanks for all the help. Take care, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Completed
Hi Spiro, I found a glue called Surehold Plastic Surgery that did a great job gluing nylon. I'm in the process of building the clips I need and I'll be installing them on my siding to take care of the loose pieces. The clips will eliminate the problem and save me the cost of having someone come out and move several pieces of siding so they lock together more securely. Take care, Ed Przybylek From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Spiro Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 8:48 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Completed sounds great. What did you decide to do with the siding/ vinyl repair? On Sun, 6 Sep 2009, Edward Przybylek wrote: Hi all, I just want to say thanks for all the excellent suggestions and advice everyone provided on my mailbox problem. I installed the mailbox post yesterday with a friend of mine. The final design is a conglomerate of ideas from your posts. The new post, a six-by-six lenth of pressure treated lumber, is buried in the ground about two feet and rests on a rather large stone at the bottom of the hole. Conveniently, the stone was at the bottom of the hole and we gave up trying to dig deeper when, after half an hour, we couldn't get the damn thing out of our way. We poured about fourteen inches of concrete into the hole and then placed a ten inch Sonotube into the hole around the post. We then filled the Sonotube with concrete to about eighteen inches above the top of the soil. I checked the post about an hour ago and it feels quite solid and, in my mind's eye, looks really good. I've already gotten three comments from my neighbors and they pretty much agree with me. Two neighbors said they'd hate to be in the car or truck that ever hits my post. Next year, when the pressure treated post has had some time to dry, I plan to paint the post the same color as my house. Thanks for all the help. Take care, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Completed
He Ed, Be sure to let us know what it sounds like when someone runs into it. That will be the reward to all the hard work. - Original Message - From: Edward Przybylek To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 2:59 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Completed Hi all, I just want to say thanks for all the excellent suggestions and advice everyone provided on my mailbox problem. I installed the mailbox post yesterday with a friend of mine. The final design is a conglomerate of ideas from your posts. The new post, a six-by-six lenth of pressure treated lumber, is buried in the ground about two feet and rests on a rather large stone at the bottom of the hole. Conveniently, the stone was at the bottom of the hole and we gave up trying to dig deeper when, after half an hour, we couldn't get the damn thing out of our way. We poured about fourteen inches of concrete into the hole and then placed a ten inch Sonotube into the hole around the post. We then filled the Sonotube with concrete to about eighteen inches above the top of the soil. I checked the post about an hour ago and it feels quite solid and, in my mind's eye, looks really good. I've already gotten three comments from my neighbors and they pretty much agree with me. Two neighbors said they'd hate to be in the car or truck that ever hits my post. Next year, when the pressure treated post has had some time to dry, I plan to paint the post the same color as my house. Thanks for all the help. Take care, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I recently had this with a clothes line pole. We used the electric jack hammer and broke through. We cleared away and drove a big pipe )2-3/8 id) intothe ground two feet deep. If I then modify what we did to your situation, I'd just fill the rest with concrete and concrete a large area around that pipe. Sink it as deep as you can and cement as wide as you can. We made sure that the cemented part of our pipe was solid to the level of a Dodge Ramm 2500's bumper. On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, Edward Przybylek wrote: Hi all, For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4-by-4 piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time, won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do this with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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that;s what people do in industrial neighborhoods where tight turns have larg trucks causing the cave in of the sewer inlets; or generally disinterest in sidewalk partking. On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, Jewel wrote: One of our handypersons was sick and tired of his mailbox being knocked down by the snowplow, so I think what he did was to concrete in a steel pipe of fairly respectable diameter 4 inch? and fill the pipe with concrete as well. The next time it was attacked by the plough, it stood unscarred while the plough lost its blade, or had it bent and buckled anyway! Jewel Original Message - From: Edward Przybylek przy5...@rochester.rr.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:07 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Hi all, For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4-by-4 piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time, won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do this with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4371 (20090826) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post
If using PVC, make sure to get schedule 40 pipe, it is more imune to ultraviolet deterioration. Pipe intended to be burried will deteriorate in the sun rapidly and make a mess. tom
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Ed, The electric jack hammer will work fine. Soak the ground around the area first and once you start hammering you might be able to pull out good sized chunks when it breaks loose from the ground. Knowing where you live and what the winters are like, you will understand how I built my mail box post. I had a problem with plow drivers tagging mine. I had a power auger in the shop so for a road test, I drilled a 1 foot diameter hole 4 feet deep. Then I took a piece of 4 inch sewer pipe and centered it in the hole. I filled the rest of the hole with concrete, cut off the pipe at the right height and filled the inside of the pipe with the rest of the concrete. I had to use a couple of the large muffler clamps, actually they fit a rear axle, and clamped the mail box bracket to the pipe. First time a plow hit my new mail box, I lost the mail box but it snapped the support arm on the plow as well. Sounded like a bomb going off when they hit. I think this would do a reasonable amount of damage to a car or pickup truck as well. You may lose the box if it is hit, but the post will defend your property and you'll feel better knowing who ran into your mail box. - Original Message - From: Edward Przybylek To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Hi all, For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4-by-4 piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time, won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do this with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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If there is I want that law changed. That would be completely stupid considering if the idiot driver was driving properly, other than a medical issue, then they deserve to have their vehicle damaged for hitting the mailbox. If it were me, I'd get a solid steel post with some nice sleeve that looks like wood to cover the outside and see how they like that. I once saw where someone built a brick enclosure around their mailbox post and seem to me they must have had the same problem. Good luck, On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:24 PM, contac...@kevindoucet.com contac...@kevindoucet.com wrote: I have heard that if, in the process of making a sturdy mail box structure, you build a structure strong enough to cause damage and possibly injury to the vehicle or person driving, you can be held liable for damage and or injury to person and persons property. Does any one know if there is any truth to this? - Original Message - From: Edward Przybylek To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:07 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Hi all, For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4- by-4 piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time, won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do this with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3975 (20090330) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Victor, that is even better than my idea. :) I like it. Some clown knocked over the street sign in front of our house and I heard them hit it, but it was snowing and I suspect they just were going to fast to make the turn and glad I wasn't out there shoveling at the time. THe town just came, made a new hole, and stuffed the busted pole and sign back into the ground. My neighbor called and made them come back out and put it in straight cause it sure was looking like a drunk put it in. grin. On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:34 PM, Victor wrote: Hi Edward, My dad and I used a four inch diameter steel pipe, buried about four feet into the ground, and protruding about four or five feet up. We filled it with cement, and painted it yellow. Let e just say that no one was able to break that puppy off, and the darn thing has been there for over 20 years. In fact, I just went by there with my wife the other day, and aside from the paint being chipped a bit, the post is still there. I can tell you that this post has stood up to 18 wheel trucks, and lived to tell about it, not to mention the countless number of cube vans vying for the coveted prize, and no one has been able to take this monster pole down. LOL. Victor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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whatever you do , at the completin of this project might I suggest you paint that new post the brightest yellow or brightest orange you can find. I wanted to do that here but they did not like the idea we too are on our fourth 4 by 4 post. I f I have to do it again I am thinking of a long section of cast iron sewer pipe filled with concrete and at the top before the concrete dries is to insert some carriage or other bolts in the concrete.. whatever you do . best of luck. Lee On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:07:02PM -0400, Edward Przybylek wrote: Hi all, For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4-by-4 piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time, won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do this with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Never trust anyone who says money is no object. .
[BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post
Hi all, Thanks for all the good information about mailbox posts. It sounds like the way to go is a good steel post mounted in concrete. It also sounds like an electric jackhammer is a good tool for removing the old concrete. Does anyone know if places like Home Depot or Lowes carry 4-inch metal pipe? It appears my weekend is going to be taken up with the new mailbox post. Stop by if you're in the neighborhood. Bring old clothes. My wife, Vickie, says she'll provide all the food you can eat and there's a refrigerator full of beer in the basement. Who knows, we might even get to the mailbox post. Thanks, again, for all the information. Take care, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Ed, Two things to tell you. The metal pipe sounds like a good idea, and easier than what I am about to tell you. My cousin's neighbor kept getting his mailbox run down, so one day he went out, set up forms for a cement post about a foot or so square and the proper height for a mailbox. So he had a solid concrete post. No one ran over his mailbox after that. Second thing. When I ripped out the old deck in my yard, the 4X4 posts had been set in the traditional way. Dig a hole, stand the post up, dump in dry concrete, and pour water in. When I removed the deck, all I needed to do was wack the hell out of the 4X4 posts at the bottom, with a sledge hammer and for the most part, the concrete broke apart in several chunks. I just had to dig them up and pull them out in nice big pieces. No jack hammering was necessary. so, you may want to try a few good wacks with a sledge before renting a jack hammer. although, it is a good excuse for playing with a jack hammer. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081
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I'd say it's B S! - Original Message - From: contac...@kevindoucet.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post I have heard that if, in the process of making a sturdy mail box structure, you build a structure strong enough to cause damage and possibly injury to the vehicle or person driving, you can be held liable for damage and or injury to person and persons property. Does any one know if there is any truth to this? - Original Message - From: Edward Przybylek To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:07 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Hi all, For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4-by-4 piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time, won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do this with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3975 (20090330) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4373 (20090827) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4373 (20090827) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
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Not only would I put a 4 inch pipe filled with concrete, I'd also incase the pipe with concrete the height of a bumper. - Original Message - From: Jewel jewelbla...@xtra.co.nz To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post One of our handypersons was sick and tired of his mailbox being knocked down by the snowplow, so I think what he did was to concrete in a steel pipe of fairly respectable diameter 4 inch? and fill the pipe with concrete as well. The next time it was attacked by the plough, it stood unscarred while the plough lost its blade, or had it bent and buckled anyway! Jewel Original Message - From: Edward Przybylek przy5...@rochester.rr.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:07 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Hi all, For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4-by-4 piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time, won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do this with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4371 (20090826) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4373 (20090827) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4373 (20090827) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
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that metal pipe you might also get at a local plumbing supply place. L On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 08:59:47AM -0400, Edward Przybylek wrote: Hi all, Thanks for all the good information about mailbox posts. It sounds like the way to go is a good steel post mounted in concrete. It also sounds like an electric jackhammer is a good tool for removing the old concrete. Does anyone know if places like Home Depot or Lowes carry 4-inch metal pipe? It appears my weekend is going to be taken up with the new mailbox post. Stop by if you're in the neighborhood. Bring old clothes. My wife, Vickie, says she'll provide all the food you can eat and there's a refrigerator full of beer in the basement. Who knows, we might even get to the mailbox post. Thanks, again, for all the information. Take care, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Never trust anyone who says money is no object. .
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How big of an area is this concrete you want to bust up with a Jack Hammer? You may be able to dig around the concrete a little, and either bust it with a good size sledge hammer, or with a few buddies, lift it out. - Original Message - From: Lee A. Stone se...@mailsent.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post that metal pipe you might also get at a local plumbing supply place. L On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 08:59:47AM -0400, Edward Przybylek wrote: Hi all, Thanks for all the good information about mailbox posts. It sounds like the way to go is a good steel post mounted in concrete. It also sounds like an electric jackhammer is a good tool for removing the old concrete. Does anyone know if places like Home Depot or Lowes carry 4-inch metal pipe? It appears my weekend is going to be taken up with the new mailbox post. Stop by if you're in the neighborhood. Bring old clothes. My wife, Vickie, says she'll provide all the food you can eat and there's a refrigerator full of beer in the basement. Who knows, we might even get to the mailbox post. Thanks, again, for all the information. Take care, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Never trust anyone who says money is no object. . Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4373 (20090827) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4373 (20090827) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
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Ed, You could just put a section of pipe in the ground. That would be easy to work with and replace. Get a pipe that is threaded on one end and put a coupling on it and pound it into the ground. Remove the coupling and turn on a flange with bolt holes to fasten the mail box. Put nice reflective tape in alternating rings up the post for visibility. ...bob [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I doubt if Home Depot or Lowes have anything that large. Plumbing supply will sell only in 21 foot length. I would suggest a section of rigid galvanized electric conduit that comes in ten foot sections. Costs less than plumbing pipe. Because it is softer and made to bend, but with concrete in it I don't think it will bend any.. Anyway you could dig your hole drive the excess pipe down pass the bottom of the hole and get the height correct then pour in the concrete without worrying about bracing it for level and such. Ron - Original Message - From: Lee A. Stone To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post that metal pipe you might also get at a local plumbing supply place. L On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 08:59:47AM -0400, Edward Przybylek wrote: Hi all, Thanks for all the good information about mailbox posts. It sounds like the way to go is a good steel post mounted in concrete. It also sounds like an electric jackhammer is a good tool for removing the old concrete. Does anyone know if places like Home Depot or Lowes carry 4-inch metal pipe? It appears my weekend is going to be taken up with the new mailbox post. Stop by if you're in the neighborhood. Bring old clothes. My wife, Vickie, says she'll provide all the food you can eat and there's a refrigerator full of beer in the basement. Who knows, we might even get to the mailbox post. Thanks, again, for all the information. Take care, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Never trust anyone who says money is no object. . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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how about schedule 40 plastic pipe, the harry homeowner stores cary it. Breeze David Burzese HRIS Project Director Administrative Computing and Information Services Carnegie Mellon Phone: 412-268-3862 You make a living by what you get You make a life by what you give On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, Ron Yearns wrote: I doubt if Home Depot or Lowes have anything that large. Plumbing supply will sell only in 21 foot length. I would suggest a section of rigid galvanized electric conduit that comes in ten foot sections. Costs less than plumbing pipe. Because it is softer and made to bend, but with concrete in it I don't think it will bend any.. Anyway you could dig your hole drive the excess pipe down pass the bottom of the hole and get the height correct then pour in the concrete without worrying about bracing it for level and such. Ron - Original Message - From: Lee A. Stone To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post that metal pipe you might also get at a local plumbing supply place. L On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 08:59:47AM -0400, Edward Przybylek wrote: Hi all, Thanks for all the good information about mailbox posts. It sounds like the way to go is a good steel post mounted in concrete. It also sounds like an electric jackhammer is a good tool for removing the old concrete. Does anyone know if places like Home Depot or Lowes carry 4-inch metal pipe? It appears my weekend is going to be taken up with the new mailbox post. Stop by if you're in the neighborhood. Bring old clothes. My wife, Vickie, says she'll provide all the food you can eat and there's a refrigerator full of beer in the basement. Who knows, we might even get to the mailbox post. Thanks, again, for all the information. Take care, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Never trust anyone who says money is no object. . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
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Well, that is one myth I am glad to get cleared up. Will you get clarification from your postperson, on what constitutes proper placement of a mailbox post on ones property? - Original Message - From: Betsy Whitney To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post According to my friend who is a postperson, that is absurd as long as your mailbox post is properly placed on your property. She said the property owner is not responsible for postal employees who drive incorrectly. It isn't any different than if anyone else drives into your post and damages their vehicle. At 04:24 PM 8/26/2009, you wrote: I have heard that if, in the process of making a sturdy mail box structure, you build a structure strong enough to cause damage and possibly injury to the vehicle or person driving, you can be held liable for damage and or injury to person and persons property. Does any one know if there is any truth to this? - Original Message - From: Edward Przybylek To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:07 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Hi all, For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4-by-4 piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time, won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do this with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3975 (20090330) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.comhttp://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3975 (20090330) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Hi Bob, What were the consequences of damaging the pipe? I just called Lowes and spoke to someone about my project. He said he had to replace his post and said he used 4 inch PVC pipe filled with concrete. At some point, someone ran into the post and did some serious damage to their car. They took him to court and his homeowner's insurance wound up paying for the damages. Was this true in your case as well? I'm thinking that a PVC pipe filled with concrete is a good way to go. It won't rust or rot; it's easy to work with; it can be painted; and, the price is right. Anyone have any reasons why this might not be the correct approach? Thanks. Take care, Ed Przybylek From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:52 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Ed, The electric jack hammer will work fine. Soak the ground around the area first and once you start hammering you might be able to pull out good sized chunks when it breaks loose from the ground. Knowing where you live and what the winters are like, you will understand how I built my mail box post. I had a problem with plow drivers tagging mine. I had a power auger in the shop so for a road test, I drilled a 1 foot diameter hole 4 feet deep. Then I took a piece of 4 inch sewer pipe and centered it in the hole. I filled the rest of the hole with concrete, cut off the pipe at the right height and filled the inside of the pipe with the rest of the concrete. I had to use a couple of the large muffler clamps, actually they fit a rear axle, and clamped the mail box bracket to the pipe. First time a plow hit my new mail box, I lost the mail box but it snapped the support arm on the plow as well. Sounded like a bomb going off when they hit. I think this would do a reasonable amount of damage to a car or pickup truck as well. You may lose the box if it is hit, but the post will defend your property and you'll feel better knowing who ran into your mail box. - Original Message - From: Edward Przybylek To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Hi all, For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4-by-4 piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time, won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do this with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Well, in the roomer I heard it was a mailbox built with a brick enclosure that was the culprit that caused the law suit. - Original Message - From: Scott Howell To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:48 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post If there is I want that law changed. That would be completely stupid considering if the idiot driver was driving properly, other than a medical issue, then they deserve to have their vehicle damaged for hitting the mailbox. If it were me, I'd get a solid steel post with some nice sleeve that looks like wood to cover the outside and see how they like that. I once saw where someone built a brick enclosure around their mailbox post and seem to me they must have had the same problem. Good luck, On Aug 26, 2009, at 10:24 PM, contac...@kevindoucet.com contac...@kevindoucet.com wrote: I have heard that if, in the process of making a sturdy mail box structure, you build a structure strong enough to cause damage and possibly injury to the vehicle or person driving, you can be held liable for damage and or injury to person and persons property. Does any one know if there is any truth to this? - Original Message - From: Edward Przybylek To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:07 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Hi all, For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4- by-4 piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time, won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do this with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3975 (20090330) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3975 (20090330) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Hi Ron, You're right about the big box stores not carrying large diameter metal pipe. I called Home Depot and Lowes and the best they could do is a 6 foot length of metal pipe. Both places suggested going to a plumbing supply house. One gentleman suggested using a PVC pipe filled with concrete. He said he replaced his mailbox post with PVC and it's working out really well. Unless I hear some good reasons from the list not to take this approach, I'm planning on using his idea. Thanks. Take care, Ed From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Yearns Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:46 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post I doubt if Home Depot or Lowes have anything that large. Plumbing supply will sell only in 21 foot length. I would suggest a section of rigid galvanized electric conduit that comes in ten foot sections. Costs less than plumbing pipe. Because it is softer and made to bend, but with concrete in it I don't think it will bend any.. Anyway you could dig your hole drive the excess pipe down pass the bottom of the hole and get the height correct then pour in the concrete without worrying about bracing it for level and such. Ron - Original Message - From: Lee A. Stone To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post that metal pipe you might also get at a local plumbing supply place. L On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 08:59:47AM -0400, Edward Przybylek wrote: Hi all, Thanks for all the good information about mailbox posts. It sounds like the way to go is a good steel post mounted in concrete. It also sounds like an electric jackhammer is a good tool for removing the old concrete. Does anyone know if places like Home Depot or Lowes carry 4-inch metal pipe? It appears my weekend is going to be taken up with the new mailbox post. Stop by if you're in the neighborhood. Bring old clothes. My wife, Vickie, says she'll provide all the food you can eat and there's a refrigerator full of beer in the basement. Who knows, we might even get to the mailbox post. Thanks, again, for all the information. Take care, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Never trust anyone who says money is no object. . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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This is what I found on the http://www.USPS.com website. It seems to me that there are more rules, but I didn't see them. Perhaps a call to the post office would be helpful. I think their tollfree number is: 800-275-8777 Postal policies for curbside mailboxes Installation of curbside mailboxes must meet specific construction standards, which can be obtained from the local Post Office facility. For United States Postal Service STD-7, Mailboxes, City and Rural Curbside you may write to: Delivery Customer SVCS Equipment, Engineering, US Postal Service 8403 Lee HWY Merrifield VA 22082-8101 The following are a few of the regulations that apply when installing a curbside mailbox: * Important: Before installing, moving or replacing your mailbox or mailbox support, you will need to contact your local Post Office. * All mailboxes must be approved by the Postal Service. * Custom made mailboxes will be approved by the Postmaster if they meet established standards. * Name put on box should be at least one inch high. * Generally, the boxes should be installed with the bottom of the box at a vertical height of between 41-45 inches from the road surface. At 06:26 AM 8/27/2009, you wrote: Well, that is one myth I am glad to get cleared up. Will you get clarification from your postperson, on what constitutes proper placement of a mailbox post on ones property? - Original Message - From: Betsy Whitney To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post According to my friend who is a postperson, that is absurd as long as your mailbox post is properly placed on your property. She said the property owner is not responsible for postal employees who drive incorrectly. It isn't any different than if anyone else drives into your post and damages their vehicle. At 04:24 PM 8/26/2009, you wrote: I have heard that if, in the process of making a sturdy mail box structure, you build a structure strong enough to cause damage and possibly injury to the vehicle or person driving, you can be held liable for damage and or injury to person and persons property. Does any one know if there is any truth to this? - Original Message - From: Edward Przybylek To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:07 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Hi all, For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4-by-4 piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time, won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do this with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3975 (20090330) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.comhttp://www.eset.comhttp://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3975 (20090330) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.comhttp://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Victor, Please don't shoot this messenger. Someone asked if I would ask my postal carrier about mailbox installation, and since I was on the USPS site looking for something, I just copied what was there. Just because I sent the information, doesn't mean that i agree with the policy. Betsy At 09:04 AM 8/27/2009, you wrote: I'm sorry, but no one is going to tell me where and how I'm going to put down my own property. I pay my taxes, and they get paid by my taxes to deliver the mail. They will deliver that mail to me no matter where they have to go. I feel it's my own prerogative whether I choose to make their lives easier by installing a curb side mail box or not. If I lived a mile down the road, they would be responsible for getting the mail to my home in the same condition as it left the sender's address, and so I'm doing them a favour by placing the mailbox in a more accessible location. From the way this policy is written, it's like they're doing me the favour by delivering my mail to me. Sorry folks, but this is North America, and that crap don't fly here. Victor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Believe me, there is no such thing as a good excuse for playing around with a jack hammer. I don't know why your posts broke out so easily, must have been very poor concrete. With age it tends to get harder particularly in a moist environment. Setting wood posts in concrete though doesn't sound too sound to me, water and rot and all that. - Original Message - From: Dan Rossi To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Ed, Two things to tell you. The metal pipe sounds like a good idea, and easier than what I am about to tell you. My cousin's neighbor kept getting his mailbox run down, so one day he went out, set up forms for a cement post about a foot or so square and the proper height for a mailbox. So he had a solid concrete post. No one ran over his mailbox after that. Second thing. When I ripped out the old deck in my yard, the 4X4 posts had been set in the traditional way. Dig a hole, stand the post up, dump in dry concrete, and pour water in. When I removed the deck, all I needed to do was wack the hell out of the 4X4 posts at the bottom, with a sledge hammer and for the most part, the concrete broke apart in several chunks. I just had to dig them up and pull them out in nice big pieces. No jack hammering was necessary. so, you may want to try a few good wacks with a sledge before renting a jack hammer. although, it is a good excuse for playing with a jack hammer. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel: (412) 268-9081 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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That is absurd! Many hundreds of thousands of people do not have any mail delivery. You city folk with your subway trains and busses and big box stores don't have a clue! We walk to the post office to collect our mail and we like it. - Original Message - From: Victor To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post I'm sorry, but no one is going to tell me where and how I'm going to put down my own property. I pay my taxes, and they get paid by my taxes to deliver the mail. They will deliver that mail to me no matter where they have to go. I feel it's my own prerogative whether I choose to make their lives easier by installing a curb side mail box or not. If I lived a mile down the road, they would be responsible for getting the mail to my home in the same condition as it left the sender's address, and so I'm doing them a favour by placing the mailbox in a more accessible location. From the way this policy is written, it's like they're doing me the favour by delivering my mail to me. Sorry folks, but this is North America, and that crap don't fly here. Victor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I'm sorry, but no one is going to tell me where and how I'm going to put down my own property. I pay my taxes, and they get paid by my taxes to deliver the mail. They will deliver that mail to me no matter where they have to go. I feel it's my own prerogative whether I choose to make their lives easier by installing a curb side mail box or not. If I lived a mile down the road, they would be responsible for getting the mail to my home in the same condition as it left the sender's address, and so I'm doing them a favour by placing the mailbox in a more accessible location. From the way this policy is written, it's like they're doing me the favour by delivering my mail to me. Sorry folks, but this is North America, and that crap don't fly here. Victor
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Victor, No need to get in a huff about this specific situation. I believe there is an easement along the boarder of all privately owned property witch utility companies and probably other companies have jurisdiction and you have to abide to regulations regarding management of that easement. Power poll, sewer access, signs, water mains and many other things can be placed along your property and you have no say-so. This is just another instance fitting that situation. Take a chill-pill. smile - Original Message - From: Victor To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post I'm sorry, but no one is going to tell me where and how I'm going to put down my own property. I pay my taxes, and they get paid by my taxes to deliver the mail. They will deliver that mail to me no matter where they have to go. I feel it's my own prerogative whether I choose to make their lives easier by installing a curb side mail box or not. If I lived a mile down the road, they would be responsible for getting the mail to my home in the same condition as it left the sender's address, and so I'm doing them a favour by placing the mailbox in a more accessible location. From the way this policy is written, it's like they're doing me the favour by delivering my mail to me. Sorry folks, but this is North America, and that crap don't fly here. Victor __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3975 (20090330) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Thanks for looking this up. - Original Message - From: Betsy Whitney To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post This is what I found on the http://www.USPS.com website. It seems to me that there are more rules, but I didn't see them. Perhaps a call to the post office would be helpful. I think their tollfree number is: 800-275-8777 Postal policies for curbside mailboxes Installation of curbside mailboxes must meet specific construction standards, which can be obtained from the local Post Office facility. For United States Postal Service STD-7, Mailboxes, City and Rural Curbside you may write to: Delivery Customer SVCS Equipment, Engineering, US Postal Service 8403 Lee HWY Merrifield VA 22082-8101 The following are a few of the regulations that apply when installing a curbside mailbox: * Important: Before installing, moving or replacing your mailbox or mailbox support, you will need to contact your local Post Office. * All mailboxes must be approved by the Postal Service. * Custom made mailboxes will be approved by the Postmaster if they meet established standards. * Name put on box should be at least one inch high. * Generally, the boxes should be installed with the bottom of the box at a vertical height of between 41-45 inches from the road surface. At 06:26 AM 8/27/2009, you wrote: Well, that is one myth I am glad to get cleared up. Will you get clarification from your postperson, on what constitutes proper placement of a mailbox post on ones property? - Original Message - From: Betsy Whitney To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post According to my friend who is a postperson, that is absurd as long as your mailbox post is properly placed on your property. She said the property owner is not responsible for postal employees who drive incorrectly. It isn't any different than if anyone else drives into your post and damages their vehicle. At 04:24 PM 8/26/2009, you wrote: I have heard that if, in the process of making a sturdy mail box structure, you build a structure strong enough to cause damage and possibly injury to the vehicle or person driving, you can be held liable for damage and or injury to person and persons property. Does any one know if there is any truth to this? - Original Message - From: Edward Przybylek To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.commailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:07 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Hi all, For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4-by-4 piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time, won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do this with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3975 (20090330) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.comhttp://www.eset.comhttp://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3975 (20090330) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.comhttp://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been
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Hi is this because of bad driving, I did not think that you had that kind of problem there, I have a outside mail box, but no body ever tried his car's nose against it, and at my business I have a post box at the post office. Philip Theron Piano tuner Piano Music House Tel.: [021] 948 6995 Cell: [083] 635 6349 Fax: [021] 949 8650 Email: phi...@isales.co.za Skype: philip11810 www.pianomusichouse.co.za - Original Message - From: Victor To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post I'm sorry, but no one is going to tell me where and how I'm going to put down my own property. I pay my taxes, and they get paid by my taxes to deliver the mail. They will deliver that mail to me no matter where they have to go. I feel it's my own prerogative whether I choose to make their lives easier by installing a curb side mail box or not. If I lived a mile down the road, they would be responsible for getting the mail to my home in the same condition as it left the sender's address, and so I'm doing them a favour by placing the mailbox in a more accessible location. From the way this policy is written, it's like they're doing me the favour by delivering my mail to me. Sorry folks, but this is North America, and that crap don't fly here. Victor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Hi Betsy, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to give you the impression that I was angry at you dear, I was just trying to convey my sentiments at someone telling me what I can and can't do with my own property. Sorry for the miscommunication. Smiles. Victor
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No problem, and thanks, Betsy At 10:06 AM 8/27/2009, you wrote: Hi Betsy, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to give you the impression that I was angry at you dear, I was just trying to convey my sentiments at someone telling me what I can and can't do with my own property. Sorry for the miscommunication. Smiles. Victor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Hi Dale, If you pay your taxes, then you most certainly have a right to how you get your mail delivered. When you live in a particular county, you are essentially telling the county that you agree to abide by their rules and policies. In addition, by you paying your property taxes, you are giving them silent consent to make any rules you wish them to make at town hall meetings and the like. I'll bet if you were to ask those 10 people if they enjoyed having to trek out in a snow storm to collect their mail from the post office, I'll bet the majority of them would say no. Your taxes, be they provincial, municipal and federal taxes pay for post services. The stamps you pay for, the delivery charges, all of that amounts to paying someone to do something for you. Would you be happy to go pick up your dinner from a pizza parlour if you were paying them to deliver it? I'm sorry, but living in this country, you have certain rights, and those rights include managing your mail. If the government is going to take responsibility for mail delivery, then they should be responsible for how they get it to you, especially when you're paying for it. Oh, and none of the bull about us having it cheap for mail delivery, have you seen how much postal workers make and the benefits they get? Happy about it indeed. Victor
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Victor in the United States of America, yes the post office can and does dictate whee and how you will have a mailbox. case in point. I know my mailman and on a rare occasion he brings something to my door but only if I have something to sign for or a c o d. and when my garbage pail is in the wa of the mailbox he does not stop. he has a postal inspector from time to time follow him and others away. what a way of taxpayers dollars but believe me yu do it their way or no mail is delivered and then they will mail you a notice of same said. Lee -- Never trust anyone who says money is no object. .
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Canada Post rules are probably different to the U.S. Postal service too. - Original Message - From: Betsy Whitney To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Victor, Please don't shoot this messenger. Someone asked if I would ask my postal carrier about mailbox installation, and since I was on the USPS site looking for something, I just copied what was there. Just because I sent the information, doesn't mean that i agree with the policy. Betsy At 09:04 AM 8/27/2009, you wrote: I'm sorry, but no one is going to tell me where and how I'm going to put down my own property. I pay my taxes, and they get paid by my taxes to deliver the mail. They will deliver that mail to me no matter where they have to go. I feel it's my own prerogative whether I choose to make their lives easier by installing a curb side mail box or not. If I lived a mile down the road, they would be responsible for getting the mail to my home in the same condition as it left the sender's address, and so I'm doing them a favour by placing the mailbox in a more accessible location. From the way this policy is written, it's like they're doing me the favour by delivering my mail to me. Sorry folks, but this is North America, and that crap don't fly here. Victor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Victor! We don't have mail delivery in this town. Many people get their mail dropped in a postal box at the corner of a concession road or at the entry to a subdivision in many many parts of the country. Our stamps cost exactly the same as yours. Frankly, I resent the services you take for granted that I have to pay for. I could stick a box on a post anywhere I like around here and with luck the only thing it would get put in it would be a family of birds. Yes, we do have to trek through the snow and rain and what ever else to collect our mail and to send it too and we pay the same federal taxes as you do. We pay more for gasoline and milk and eggs and just about everything else so to that extent we pay more taxes than you. Next month Janet has a mammogram booked. to take a cab would cost $120 each way, what would it cost your wife? You city folk have it so soft and you don't even know it. - Original Message - From: Victor To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Hi Dale, If you pay your taxes, then you most certainly have a right to how you get your mail delivered. When you live in a particular county, you are essentially telling the county that you agree to abide by their rules and policies. In addition, by you paying your property taxes, you are giving them silent consent to make any rules you wish them to make at town hall meetings and the like. I'll bet if you were to ask those 10 people if they enjoyed having to trek out in a snow storm to collect their mail from the post office, I'll bet the majority of them would say no. Your taxes, be they provincial, municipal and federal taxes pay for post services. The stamps you pay for, the delivery charges, all of that amounts to paying someone to do something for you. Would you be happy to go pick up your dinner from a pizza parlour if you were paying them to deliver it? I'm sorry, but living in this country, you have certain rights, and those rights include managing your mail. If the government is going to take responsibility for mail delivery, then they should be responsible for how they get it to you, especially when you're paying for it. Oh, and none of the bull about us having it cheap for mail delivery, have you seen how much postal workers make and the benefits they get? Happy about it indeed. Victor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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oh wow we take the smallest things for granted in this country this really puts our complaints in prospective I have to walk less than a hundred yards to collect my mail and I complain if it is raining no more thanks dale for bringing this really home take care Allen - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens dleav...@puc.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Victor! We don't have mail delivery in this town. Many people get their mail dropped in a postal box at the corner of a concession road or at the entry to a subdivision in many many parts of the country. Our stamps cost exactly the same as yours. Frankly, I resent the services you take for granted that I have to pay for. I could stick a box on a post anywhere I like around here and with luck the only thing it would get put in it would be a family of birds. Yes, we do have to trek through the snow and rain and what ever else to collect our mail and to send it too and we pay the same federal taxes as you do. We pay more for gasoline and milk and eggs and just about everything else so to that extent we pay more taxes than you. Next month Janet has a mammogram booked. to take a cab would cost $120 each way, what would it cost your wife? You city folk have it so soft and you don't even know it. - Original Message - From: Victor To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Hi Dale, If you pay your taxes, then you most certainly have a right to how you get your mail delivered. When you live in a particular county, you are essentially telling the county that you agree to abide by their rules and policies. In addition, by you paying your property taxes, you are giving them silent consent to make any rules you wish them to make at town hall meetings and the like. I'll bet if you were to ask those 10 people if they enjoyed having to trek out in a snow storm to collect their mail from the post office, I'll bet the majority of them would say no. Your taxes, be they provincial, municipal and federal taxes pay for post services. The stamps you pay for, the delivery charges, all of that amounts to paying someone to do something for you. Would you be happy to go pick up your dinner from a pizza parlour if you were paying them to deliver it? I'm sorry, but living in this country, you have certain rights, and those rights include managing your mail. If the government is going to take responsibility for mail delivery, then they should be responsible for how they get it to you, especially when you're paying for it. Oh, and none of the bull about us having it cheap for mail delivery, have you seen how much postal workers make and the benefits they get? Happy about it indeed. Victor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Dale: When I lived in East Central Kansas for a while, we had a mailbox where a section road intersected a blacktop road, and it was mounted on what probably was a fence post. It was a convenient target for kids with .22s and air rifles, and had to be replaced pretty frequently. I'm not sure what determines whether someone in a rural area gets mail delivered or not. I've lived in a couple small towns where if you wanted mail you rented a box from the Postal Service. The Post Office in the US is a quasi-government corporation, which means they do get subsidized significantly. Because they've been losing tremendous amounts of money for years, attempts are underway to close a lot of post offices. It's a problem for a lot of places, because nobody wants their particfular post office to close down. Bill Stephan Kansas Citty MO Email: wstep...@everestkc.net Phone: (816)803-2469 - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens dleav...@puc.net Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:23 pm Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Victor! We don't have mail delivery in this town. Many people get their mail dropped in a postal box at the corner of a concession road or at the entry to a subdivision in many many parts of the country. Our stamps cost exactly the same as yours. Frankly, I resent the services you take for granted that I have to pay for. I could stick a box on a post anywhere I like around here and with luck the only thing it would get put in it would be a family of birds. Yes, we do have to trek through the snow and rain and what ever else to collect our mail and to send it too and we pay the same federal taxes as you do. We pay more for gasoline and milk and eggs and just about everything else so to that extent we pay more taxes than you. Next month Janet has a mammogram booked. to take a cab would cost $120 each way, what would it cost your wife? You city folk have it so soft and you don't even know it. - Original Message - From: Victor To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Hi Dale, If you pay your taxes, then you most certainly have a right to how you get your mail delivered. When you live in a particular county, you are essentially telling the county that you agree to abide by their rules and policies. In addition, by you paying your property taxes, you are giving them silent consent to make any rules you wish them to make at town hall meetings and the like. I'll bet if you were to ask those 10 people if they enjoyed having to trek out in a snow storm to collect their mail from the post office, I'll bet the majority of them would say no. Your taxes, be they provincial, municipal and federal taxes pay for post services. The stamps you pay for, the delivery charges, all of that amounts to paying someone to do something for you. Would you be happy to go pick up your dinner from a pizza parlour if you were paying them to deliver it? I'm sorry, but living in this country, you have certain rights, and those rights include managing your mail. If the government is going to take responsibility for mail delivery, then they should be responsible for how they get it to you, especially when you're paying for it. Oh, and none of the bull about us having it cheap for mail delivery, have you seen how much postal workers make and the benefits they get? Happy about it indeed. Victor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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We have the same issues here in Canada. Even in some major cities, one daughter living in Calgary collects her mail from a box in a shelter in the middle of their subdivision. Most of the city has door delivery but not all. We used to get general delivery for free and you would rent a box in the post office but some changes to the regulations have meant we now have a minimal box free, extra for a larger one say for business or even a private bag. Our hospital uses a private bag, we pick it up and return an empty one in it's place. My son in London and my other daughter in Lindsay get door delivery, we used to have it in Dawson Creek and in Chatham. The world does not guarantee equity for all and sometimes we forget that it doesn't owe any of us anything. - Original Message - From: wstep...@everestkc.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Dale: When I lived in East Central Kansas for a while, we had a mailbox where a section road intersected a blacktop road, and it was mounted on what probably was a fence post. It was a convenient target for kids with .22s and air rifles, and had to be replaced pretty frequently. I'm not sure what determines whether someone in a rural area gets mail delivered or not. I've lived in a couple small towns where if you wanted mail you rented a box from the Postal Service. The Post Office in the US is a quasi-government corporation, which means they do get subsidized significantly. Because they've been losing tremendous amounts of money for years, attempts are underway to close a lot of post offices. It's a problem for a lot of places, because nobody wants their particfular post office to close down. Bill Stephan Kansas Citty MO Email: wstep...@everestkc.net Phone: (816)803-2469 - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens dleav...@puc.net Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:23 pm Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Victor! We don't have mail delivery in this town. Many people get their mail dropped in a postal box at the corner of a concession road or at the entry to a subdivision in many many parts of the country. Our stamps cost exactly the same as yours. Frankly, I resent the services you take for granted that I have to pay for. I could stick a box on a post anywhere I like around here and with luck the only thing it would get put in it would be a family of birds. Yes, we do have to trek through the snow and rain and what ever else to collect our mail and to send it too and we pay the same federal taxes as you do. We pay more for gasoline and milk and eggs and just about everything else so to that extent we pay more taxes than you. Next month Janet has a mammogram booked. to take a cab would cost $120 each way, what would it cost your wife? You city folk have it so soft and you don't even know it. - Original Message - From: Victor To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Hi Dale, If you pay your taxes, then you most certainly have a right to how you get your mail delivered. When you live in a particular county, you are essentially telling the county that you agree to abide by their rules and policies. In addition, by you paying your property taxes, you are giving them silent consent to make any rules you wish them to make at town hall meetings and the like. I'll bet if you were to ask those 10 people if they enjoyed having to trek out in a snow storm to collect their mail from the post office, I'll bet the majority of them would say no. Your taxes, be they provincial, municipal and federal taxes pay for post services. The stamps you pay for, the delivery charges, all of that amounts to paying someone to do something for you. Would you be happy to go pick up your dinner from a pizza parlour if you were paying them to deliver it? I'm sorry, but living in this country, you have certain rights, and those rights include managing your mail. If the government is going to take responsibility for mail delivery, then they should be responsible for how they get it to you, especially when you're paying for it. Oh, and none of the bull about us having it cheap for mail delivery, have you seen how much postal workers make and the benefits they get? Happy about it indeed. Victor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Where I live, in unincorporated Alameda county CA. mail is delivered to a slot in the wall by my front door. Very good. However sending mail is getting hard. Street side post boxes are nearly gone, and the post office is a mile and a half away. I most often just take things to work where we have a nice mail room and a very helpfull young lady who will stick stuff in the outgoing for us. The post office claims you can leave outgoing mail clipped to the slot cover, but you may as well hand it to the local gang member as leave it out side. Speaking of rural mail boxes though, somewhere here we have a gizmo with a small transmitter that you put in the far off mail box. There is a receiver you put where you can hear it. Somehow, and it may be light activated, when the mail box is opened, the receiver beeps. Never seemed to work very reliably when informally tested here in the lab. Tom Fowle
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Dale, ... you've got it absolutely right Our whole town doesn't get mail delivery either, and we aren't as isolated as you are. And what I find truly annoying is that everyone who lives outside of the town limits does get their mail brought to their door. Doesn't matter what we are paying in taxes or stamps (and my business is mainly mail order, do you think the current shipping costs help? I've had orders cancelled because shipping it was twice the cost of the items being purchased!) you do not dictate Canada Post's policies. Joy Please take a few moments to browse and enjoy my original artwork at: www.tigerfeathers.ca - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Victor! We don't have mail delivery in this town. Many people get their mail dropped in a postal box at the corner of a concession road or at the entry to a subdivision in many many parts of the country. Our stamps cost exactly the same as yours. Frankly, I resent the services you take for granted that I have to pay for. I could stick a box on a post anywhere I like around here and with luck the only thing it would get put in it would be a family of birds. Yes, we do have to trek through the snow and rain and what ever else to collect our mail and to send it too and we pay the same federal taxes as you do. We pay more for gasoline and milk and eggs and just about everything else so to that extent we pay more taxes than you. Next month Janet has a mammogram booked. to take a cab would cost $120 each way, what would it cost your wife? You city folk have it so soft and you don't even know it. - Original Message - From: Victor To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Hi Dale, If you pay your taxes, then you most certainly have a right to how you get your mail delivered. When you live in a particular county, you are essentially telling the county that you agree to abide by their rules and policies. In addition, by you paying your property taxes, you are giving them silent consent to make any rules you wish them to make at town hall meetings and the like. I'll bet if you were to ask those 10 people if they enjoyed having to trek out in a snow storm to collect their mail from the post office, I'll bet the majority of them would say no. Your taxes, be they provincial, municipal and federal taxes pay for post services. The stamps you pay for, the delivery charges, all of that amounts to paying someone to do something for you. Would you be happy to go pick up your dinner from a pizza parlour if you were paying them to deliver it? I'm sorry, but living in this country, you have certain rights, and those rights include managing your mail. If the government is going to take responsibility for mail delivery, then they should be responsible for how they get it to you, especially when you're paying for it. Oh, and none of the bull about us having it cheap for mail delivery, have you seen how much postal workers make and the benefits they get? Happy about it indeed. Victor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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In New Zealand, the urban post people are very choosy, andpernickety about where they deliver the mail, but the drivers who service the rual areas are very good. When the farmer/rual dweller has mail to send, a flag is raised and the van driver collects and delivers it to the bbase post office. Jewel - Original Message - From: Tom Fowle fo...@ski.org To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Where I live, in unincorporated Alameda county CA. mail is delivered to a slot in the wall by my front door. Very good. However sending mail is getting hard. Street side post boxes are nearly gone, and the post office is a mile and a half away. I most often just take things to work where we have a nice mail room and a very helpfull young lady who will stick stuff in the outgoing for us. The post office claims you can leave outgoing mail clipped to the slot cover, but you may as well hand it to the local gang member as leave it out side. Speaking of rural mail boxes though, somewhere here we have a gizmo with a small transmitter that you put in the far off mail box. There is a receiver you put where you can hear it. Somehow, and it may be light activated, when the mail box is opened, the receiver beeps. Never seemed to work very reliably when informally tested here in the lab. Tom Fowle Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4375 (20090827) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
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Ed, Anyone of the big box stores carries sewer pipe. Most often it is PVC but I think if you fill it with concrete, and drop in a couple rebars it can stand up. For cast iron you'll probably have to go to a plumbing supply store. - Original Message - From: Edward Przybylek To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:59 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Hi all, Thanks for all the good information about mailbox posts. It sounds like the way to go is a good steel post mounted in concrete. It also sounds like an electric jackhammer is a good tool for removing the old concrete. Does anyone know if places like Home Depot or Lowes carry 4-inch metal pipe? It appears my weekend is going to be taken up with the new mailbox post. Stop by if you're in the neighborhood. Bring old clothes. My wife, Vickie, says she'll provide all the food you can eat and there's a refrigerator full of beer in the basement. Who knows, we might even get to the mailbox post. Thanks, again, for all the information. Take care, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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In my case the plow was owned by the town. They tried to take me to court but I went to the judge in charge of small claims before the date. I showed him the papers and he laughed. He wanted all the details on the post, I think he was considering one for his house too. Now remember, I left Western New York in the early 80s. Laws have gotten a lot stupider in 25 years so that my not still be true. But I'd be sure to get the TV folks involved if a problem came up. First thing I'd want is a blood alcohol level. How much time between the incident and the reporting of the damage. If you decide to build this way, and you hear someone clank off the post, make sure to report it to police right then. This will set a time chain and they can see how long it takes the other guy to report the same thing. The longer he waits the worse it is for him. Leaving the scene of an accident and all. Also keep in mind, if a suit is brought against you for damage, you have that same right. Labor and material to replace the post, especially if done by a professional can get pretty pricey. That doesn't mean you have to have a professional install it now, just get an estimate to replace it in new condition. Check with the post office for their requirements. They can tell you exactly how high they want the mail box, and how far from the road. As long as those are met, I would say game on. - Original Message - From: Edward Przybylek To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:34 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Hi Bob, What were the consequences of damaging the pipe? I just called Lowes and spoke to someone about my project. He said he had to replace his post and said he used 4 inch PVC pipe filled with concrete. At some point, someone ran into the post and did some serious damage to their car. They took him to court and his homeowner's insurance wound up paying for the damages. Was this true in your case as well? I'm thinking that a PVC pipe filled with concrete is a good way to go. It won't rust or rot; it's easy to work with; it can be painted; and, the price is right. Anyone have any reasons why this might not be the correct approach? Thanks. Take care, Ed Przybylek From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:52 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Ed, The electric jack hammer will work fine. Soak the ground around the area first and once you start hammering you might be able to pull out good sized chunks when it breaks loose from the ground. Knowing where you live and what the winters are like, you will understand how I built my mail box post. I had a problem with plow drivers tagging mine. I had a power auger in the shop so for a road test, I drilled a 1 foot diameter hole 4 feet deep. Then I took a piece of 4 inch sewer pipe and centered it in the hole. I filled the rest of the hole with concrete, cut off the pipe at the right height and filled the inside of the pipe with the rest of the concrete. I had to use a couple of the large muffler clamps, actually they fit a rear axle, and clamped the mail box bracket to the pipe. First time a plow hit my new mail box, I lost the mail box but it snapped the support arm on the plow as well. Sounded like a bomb going off when they hit. I think this would do a reasonable amount of damage to a car or pickup truck as well. You may lose the box if it is hit, but the post will defend your property and you'll feel better knowing who ran into your mail box. - Original Message - From: Edward Przybylek To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Hi all, For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4-by-4 piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time, won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before
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PVC can crack and split, but only say that in open pipe. Filled with concret should help. I would be inclined to put about four half or five eights rebars in it.. The plastic will be much easier to handle that is sure. You will need to mount some all thread in the top to attach the box with. Ron - Original Message - From: Edward Przybylek To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:41 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Hi Ron, You're right about the big box stores not carrying large diameter metal pipe. I called Home Depot and Lowes and the best they could do is a 6 foot length of metal pipe. Both places suggested going to a plumbing supply house. One gentleman suggested using a PVC pipe filled with concrete. He said he replaced his mailbox post with PVC and it's working out really well. Unless I hear some good reasons from the list not to take this approach, I'm planning on using his idea. Thanks. Take care, Ed From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Yearns Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:46 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post I doubt if Home Depot or Lowes have anything that large. Plumbing supply will sell only in 21 foot length. I would suggest a section of rigid galvanized electric conduit that comes in ten foot sections. Costs less than plumbing pipe. Because it is softer and made to bend, but with concrete in it I don't think it will bend any.. Anyway you could dig your hole drive the excess pipe down pass the bottom of the hole and get the height correct then pour in the concrete without worrying about bracing it for level and such. Ron - Original Message - From: Lee A. Stone To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post that metal pipe you might also get at a local plumbing supply place. L On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 08:59:47AM -0400, Edward Przybylek wrote: Hi all, Thanks for all the good information about mailbox posts. It sounds like the way to go is a good steel post mounted in concrete. It also sounds like an electric jackhammer is a good tool for removing the old concrete. Does anyone know if places like Home Depot or Lowes carry 4-inch metal pipe? It appears my weekend is going to be taken up with the new mailbox post. Stop by if you're in the neighborhood. Bring old clothes. My wife, Vickie, says she'll provide all the food you can eat and there's a refrigerator full of beer in the basement. Who knows, we might even get to the mailbox post. Thanks, again, for all the information. Take care, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Never trust anyone who says money is no object. . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post
Hi all, For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4-by-4 piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time, won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do this with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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I have heard that if, in the process of making a sturdy mail box structure, you build a structure strong enough to cause damage and possibly injury to the vehicle or person driving, you can be held liable for damage and or injury to person and persons property. Does any one know if there is any truth to this? - Original Message - From: Edward Przybylek To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:07 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Hi all, For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4-by-4 piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time, won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do this with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3975 (20090330) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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One of our handypersons was sick and tired of his mailbox being knocked down by the snowplow, so I think what he did was to concrete in a steel pipe of fairly respectable diameter 4 inch? and fill the pipe with concrete as well. The next time it was attacked by the plough, it stood unscarred while the plough lost its blade, or had it bent and buckled anyway! Jewel Original Message - From: Edward Przybylek przy5...@rochester.rr.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:07 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Hi all, For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4-by-4 piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time, won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do this with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4371 (20090826) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
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Hi Edward, My dad and I used a four inch diameter steel pipe, buried about four feet into the ground, and protruding about four or five feet up. We filled it with cement, and painted it yellow. Let e just say that no one was able to break that puppy off, and the darn thing has been there for over 20 years. In fact, I just went by there with my wife the other day, and aside from the paint being chipped a bit, the post is still there. I can tell you that this post has stood up to 18 wheel trucks, and lived to tell about it, not to mention the countless number of cube vans vying for the coveted prize, and no one has been able to take this monster pole down. LOL. Victor
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a good metal post driven to 1oo pounds of concrete buried the depth of the post should do the trick and a fair amount of damage for the next one who picks on your mail vox good luck allen - Original Message - From: Edward Przybylek przy5...@rochester.rr.com To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:07 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Hi all, For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4-by-4 piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time, won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do this with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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call your post office and ask them jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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According to my friend who is a postperson, that is absurd as long as your mailbox post is properly placed on your property. She said the property owner is not responsible for postal employees who drive incorrectly. It isn't any different than if anyone else drives into your post and damages their vehicle. At 04:24 PM 8/26/2009, you wrote: I have heard that if, in the process of making a sturdy mail box structure, you build a structure strong enough to cause damage and possibly injury to the vehicle or person driving, you can be held liable for damage and or injury to person and persons property. Does any one know if there is any truth to this? - Original Message - From: Edward Przybylek To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:07 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Mailbox Post Hi all, For the fourth time since I've been living in this house, some dirty bastard has run into and broken the post under my mailbox. The post was a 4-by-4 piece of pressure treated that was buried about 3 feet in the ground. The first time was forgivable; the second time was irritating; the third time was really agrivating; the fourth time, well, that's personal. It appears that a good sturdy wooden post just isn't up to the likes of what drives through the neighborhood. I doubt a wooden post does a great deal of damage to a car's bumper. It's time to get serious about this matter. This time it's going to be a hefty metal post of some sort. One, that next time, won't be the only thing left with damage. Does anyone have any suggestions as to the type of metal post I should use? Do steel posts hold up for a reasonably long time once they're cemented in the ground? Is there anything better? Is there anything that can be done to prepare a metal post that will extend it's life in the ground? Also, has anyone ever used an electric jackhammer? Do they work reasonably well? Are they tough to use? Before putting a new post in the ground, the old concrete is going to have to be broken up and removed to get ready for a new post. I'm hoping to do this with an electric jackhammer. Lots of questions, I know. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ed Przybylek [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3975 (20090330) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.comhttp://www.eset.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[BlindHandyMan] Mailbox post
Here is what I did for the mailbox post. Took a 4x 4 x 10' and cut it in half. Rounded the top cut end of one of the five foot pieces. Measured up 4 foot on that post and cut a groove half way through the thickness of the post. The width of the 4 x 4 and cut a piece three foot long off the other five foot piece at a 45 degree angle and cut a groove to match the first groove on the five foot post. Tap the two pieces together and secured them with screw. Cut a 45 degree angle on the remaining two foot piece and braced up the cross piece with it . Bought a 4 x 4 ground bracket. Pound it into the ground and took the post and placed it into the bracket and tighten the nut to secure the 5 foot post and attached the mailbox to the cross piece and it been there now for three years. When the snowplow hit it this year, all I had to do was reset the post into the metal bracket and secure it with the nut. To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
