Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters
Please do report back on this find. At 10:05 PM 1/16/2009, you wrote: I always assumed our charges from the power company was based on amp hours rather than power. I don't pretend to be an electrician. Nor, did I play one on TV. I didn't even stay in a holiday Inn last night. We'll see what it does to my electric bill. :) Terry On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:10:51 -0600you write: It uses the same number of amps but the voltage is doubled. That gives twice the power as the spects say, 1500 watts versus 3000 watts. It will give twice the heat but in very cold weather when the thermostat is not cycling, it will cost you twice as much to run. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: mailto:max%40maxsmusicplace.comm...@maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.nethttp://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.nethttp://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.comhttp://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, mailto:funwithtubes-subscribe%40yahoogroups.comfunwithtubes-subsc r...@yahoogroups.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 3772 (20090116) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.comhttp://www.eset.com Thanks. Kevin Doucet contac...@kevindoucet.com confuse as says Blind man with unmarked forehead has large belly!
Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters
The power company bills by kilowatt hours. So if the heater draws 3000 watts, that is 3 kilowatts an hour. The fun part will be finding out what the local power company charges for a KWH. It is in the bill you receive each month. Usually somewhere between 7 and 20 cents per hour. - Original Message - From: Terry Klarich To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com ; Max Robinson Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters I always assumed our charges from the power company was based on amp hours rather than power. I don't pretend to be an electrician. Nor, did I play one on TV. I didn't even stay in a holiday Inn last night. We'll see what it does to my electric bill. :) Terry On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:10:51 -0600you write: It uses the same number of amps but the voltage is doubled. That gives twice the power as the spects say, 1500 watts versus 3000 watts. It will give twice the heat but in very cold weather when the thermostat is not cycling, it will cost you twice as much to run. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, funwithtubes-subscr...@yahoogroups.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters
Hello all: I needed to purchase a heater for my shop. I was looking at a couple of options; but, couldn't decide. After learning about quartz infrared heaters on this list, I did the research. And decided, for my application, this heater would work the best. So, I ordered one from grainger along with a thermostat. The unit runs on 240V, is 53 long. It looks like a florescent light fixture. I Hung above my work bench. The thermostat mounts in a standard 2x4 box. I am extremely happy with how it works. Thanks to the list. I appreciate all the good info. Terry
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hi terry, what did the heater cost? jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters
Terry: Do they rate those heaters in terms of BTUs? And, what's yours rated at if they do. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cheetah Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 19:52 To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters hi terry, what did the heater cost? jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:51:51 -0600you write: hi terry, what did the heater cost? jim The list was $178.00. However, my employer has an account with grainger and do a lot of business with them evidently. My cost was significently less than that. The grainger part number is 1UCR1. You can look it up on grainger.com if you want. I picked this one because it is cieling mountable and came with the cord. I just mounted a 2x4 box next to the heater on the cieling. That way I can unplug it on those summer days. Terry
Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:16:19 -0600you write: Terry: Do they rate those heaters in terms of BTUs? And, what's yours rated at if they do. Here's the low-down. Electric Infrared Heater, Indoor/Outdoor, 3000 Watts, 10236 BtuH, Voltage 240, 12.5 Amps @ 1 Phase, Height 3 3/8 In, Width 5 1/2 In, Length 57 In, Beam Pattern 60, Number of Lamps 1, Housing Material Painted Steel, Anodized Reflector Finish, Mounting Ceiling Hung, Agency Compliance ETL I know we've all heard this before. Anyway, according to my calculations, this heater shouldn't cost me any more to run than my old electric space heater. It was 1500 watts at 120V. It 12.5A. At least it was until it died. This wone draws the same amps; but, is so much warmer. Terry
Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters
It uses the same number of amps but the voltage is doubled. That gives twice the power as the spects say, 1500 watts versus 3000 watts. It will give twice the heat but in very cold weather when the thermostat is not cycling, it will cost you twice as much to run. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, funwithtubes-subscr...@yahoogroups.com - Original Message - From: Terry Klarich te...@klarich.net To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com; William Stephan wstep...@everestkc.net Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:16:19 -0600you write: Terry: Do they rate those heaters in terms of BTUs? And, what's yours rated at if they do. Here's the low-down. Electric Infrared Heater, Indoor/Outdoor, 3000 Watts, 10236 BtuH, Voltage 240, 12.5 Amps @ 1 Phase, Height 3 3/8 In, Width 5 1/2 In, Length 57 In, Beam Pattern 60, Number of Lamps 1, Housing Material Painted Steel, Anodized Reflector Finish, Mounting Ceiling Hung, Agency Compliance ETL I know we've all heard this before. Anyway, according to my calculations, this heater shouldn't cost me any more to run than my old electric space heater. It was 1500 watts at 120V. It 12.5A. At least it was until it died. This wone draws the same amps; but, is so much warmer. Terry Send any questions regarding list management to: blindhandyman-ow...@yahoogroups.com To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: blindhandyman-h...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters
The amperage is the same but this is a 220 volt heater generating 3000 Watts. the other one generated 1500 Watts. This one should cost darn close to twice as much to operate than your old one but it will, and apparently does generate twice as much heat. - Original Message - From: Terry Klarich To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com ; William Stephan Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:16:19 -0600you write: Terry: Do they rate those heaters in terms of BTUs? And, what's yours rated at if they do. Here's the low-down. Electric Infrared Heater, Indoor/Outdoor, 3000 Watts, 10236 BtuH, Voltage 240, 12.5 Amps @ 1 Phase, Height 3 3/8 In, Width 5 1/2 In, Length 57 In, Beam Pattern 60, Number of Lamps 1, Housing Material Painted Steel, Anodized Reflector Finish, Mounting Ceiling Hung, Agency Compliance ETL I know we've all heard this before. Anyway, according to my calculations, this heater shouldn't cost me any more to run than my old electric space heater. It was 1500 watts at 120V. It 12.5A. At least it was until it died. This wone draws the same amps; but, is so much warmer. Terry [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters
I always assumed our charges from the power company was based on amp hours rather than power. I don't pretend to be an electrician. Nor, did I play one on TV. I didn't even stay in a holiday Inn last night. We'll see what it does to my electric bill. :) Terry On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:10:51 -0600you write: It uses the same number of amps but the voltage is doubled. That gives twice the power as the spects say, 1500 watts versus 3000 watts. It will give twice the heat but in very cold weather when the thermostat is not cycling, it will cost you twice as much to run. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, funwithtubes-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters
They charge by the kilowatt hour. Each hour the heater runs it consumes 3 kilowatt hours. Of course when the thermostat is satisfied it turns off and draws no kilowatts. Here I believe we pay 4.5 cents per KWh so it would cost me 15 cents an hour. Last night it went down to minus 34C with a high this afternoon of 25C so I expect a heater like that would cost me about $3.24 per day but 3 KWh wouldn't heat much under these conditions. - Original Message - From: Terry Klarich To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com ; Max Robinson Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters I always assumed our charges from the power company was based on amp hours rather than power. I don't pretend to be an electrician. Nor, did I play one on TV. I didn't even stay in a holiday Inn last night. We'll see what it does to my electric bill. :) Terry On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:10:51 -0600you write: It uses the same number of amps but the voltage is doubled. That gives twice the power as the spects say, 1500 watts versus 3000 watts. It will give twice the heat but in very cold weather when the thermostat is not cycling, it will cost you twice as much to run. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, funwithtubes-subscr...@yahoogroups.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters
Remember too, that no matter how good the heater is,m you're not goinbg to get more than about 5,000 BTUs out of it on a 110 volt circuit. Bill Stephan, Kansas City MO Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (816)803-2469 -original message- Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters From: RJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 12/09/2008 18:27 , You have to realize that is $60 plus what they spent on fuel oil. They claim they did save money with the fuel oil used and the $60 for the increase in electric. RJ - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters RJ, I believe the brand you speak of is the leader in this quartz infrared technology. 60 bucks a month wouldn't be bad considering the cost of gas or oil. - Original Message - From: RJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters Don't know where you can look at one, but a friend bought one this season called Eden or something like that. It is propose to heat up to one thousand sq ft. So far the cost to operate the unit is around $60 per month. Will say, the rooms the heater is in, About 14 x 28 ft is the warmest I have ever felt it. They claimed it has save them money on there fuel oil, but don't know if this is a wash or not. RJ - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:41 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters Does anyone know if there is a store where I can walk in and check out these infrared heaters? I hate to purchase something on line this expensive without first physically running my hands all over it. I've did a search on both home depot, and lows without any success. Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management
[BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters
Does anyone know if there is a store where I can walk in and check out these infrared heaters? I hate to purchase something on line this expensive without first physically running my hands all over it. I've did a search on both home depot, and lows without any success. Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters
Brice, most chain stores and hardware stores should stock them and have a display. Just call any local store and ask if they have one on display. They do come in many sizes and capacities. .bob Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters
Don't know where you can look at one, but a friend bought one this season called Eden or something like that. It is propose to heat up to one thousand sq ft. So far the cost to operate the unit is around $60 per month. Will say, the rooms the heater is in, About 14 x 28 ft is the warmest I have ever felt it. They claimed it has save them money on there fuel oil, but don't know if this is a wash or not. RJ - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:41 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters Does anyone know if there is a store where I can walk in and check out these infrared heaters? I hate to purchase something on line this expensive without first physically running my hands all over it. I've did a search on both home depot, and lows without any success. Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters
thanks Bob, I'll have to check around. - Original Message - From: chiliblindman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:12 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters Brice, most chain stores and hardware stores should stock them and have a display. Just call any local store and ask if they have one on display. They do come in many sizes and capacities. .bob Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters
RJ, I believe the brand you speak of is the leader in this quartz infrared technology. 60 bucks a month wouldn't be bad considering the cost of gas or oil. - Original Message - From: RJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters Don't know where you can look at one, but a friend bought one this season called Eden or something like that. It is propose to heat up to one thousand sq ft. So far the cost to operate the unit is around $60 per month. Will say, the rooms the heater is in, About 14 x 28 ft is the warmest I have ever felt it. They claimed it has save them money on there fuel oil, but don't know if this is a wash or not. RJ - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:41 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters Does anyone know if there is a store where I can walk in and check out these infrared heaters? I hate to purchase something on line this expensive without first physically running my hands all over it. I've did a search on both home depot, and lows without any success. Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters
, You have to realize that is $60 plus what they spent on fuel oil. They claim they did save money with the fuel oil used and the $60 for the increase in electric. RJ - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters RJ, I believe the brand you speak of is the leader in this quartz infrared technology. 60 bucks a month wouldn't be bad considering the cost of gas or oil. - Original Message - From: RJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters Don't know where you can look at one, but a friend bought one this season called Eden or something like that. It is propose to heat up to one thousand sq ft. So far the cost to operate the unit is around $60 per month. Will say, the rooms the heater is in, About 14 x 28 ft is the warmest I have ever felt it. They claimed it has save them money on there fuel oil, but don't know if this is a wash or not. RJ - Original Message - From: Brice Mijares [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:41 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] quartz infrared heaters Does anyone know if there is a store where I can walk in and check out these infrared heaters? I hate to purchase something on line this expensive without first physically running my hands all over it. I've did a search on both home depot, and lows without any success. Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following address: http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/handyman/ Visit the archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ If you would like to join the JAWS Users List, then visit the following address for more information: http://www.jaws-users.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groups Links Send any questions regarding list management to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To listen to the show archives go to link http://www.acbradio.org/pweb/index.php?module=pagemasterPAGE_user_op=view_pagePAGE_id=33MMN_position=47:29 Or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday Visit The Blind
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters
Dale, lofts, because of their high ceilings are another place where this kind of heat is supposed to be mor economical. Bill Stephan Kansas City, MO (816)803-2469 William Stephan -Original Message- From: Dale Leavens[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/16/06 7:21:41 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.comblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters I just did a search and was interested to discover that this sort of heating device has been widely used in industry for heat processing like thermal molding and vacuum forming and heating metallic parts for coating or burning the lubricant off of extruded wire insulation and all sorts. The primary preferred use is to be able to come up to full temperature quickly and fall off again quickly when not in use. A controller can turn the lamps on just in time for some or other part of the process and the radiation falls back to about 5% within a couple of seconds of turning them off. The technology is used for many other things too, direct radiation for spot heating in large areas like hangers and warehouses or to keep snow and ice clear from outdoor areas or even spot heating of a part of a patio like over the barbecue. This refers to the element technology only, not that particular configuration in the Edinpure device. While electric infrared heating is far from new, I had never thought of using it in those ways. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: rj [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters If you read the post of mine stated $397 for the 1000 sq foot and $300 for the 500 sq ft. the deluxe model, which I forgot the name that heat 1000 sq ft is $447, and it has a wood cabinet. Go to google and type in Edenpure heaters and take your choice of where you would like to purchase the heater. Even Amazon has one up for bid. Good luck P. S. the last bid on Amazon was $305 and about two days to go. RJ - Original Message - From: Terrie Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 4:26 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters i am interested in the heater and no one on here answered my question OK WHAT DO THESE DAMNED THINGS COST .sO IS THERE A DIFFERENT TYPE THEN THE EDENPURE TERRIE To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 14/10/2006 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters
Be absolutely sure not to handle the quartz bulbs with your bear hands. The oil from your skin will cause the quartz to calcify and the bulb to explode when it gets hot. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: William Stephan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:36 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Ralph, if this is the same unit I just bought, it uses four bulbs to generate heat. Also, when you get it, you're going to have to take the thing apart to install the bulbs which are in a coregated box inside the unit. You can probably figure it out, but if not, let me know since I just did the same thing. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 4:41 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Let us know how the heater works out this winter, It will be interesting to see. Don - Original Message - From: Ralph Supernaw To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 4:18 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters There is at least one other manufacturer of quartz home space heaters. We just ordered a Sun Twin which is a 1500 watt unit with oak Vanier cabinet. It retails for about $550 but we bought our for $450 on EBay. If there's any interest I can post after we use it some. We were deciding between the Sun Twin and a unit produced by Solar Cloud. The Solar Cloud heater used infrared bulbs instead of the quartz. As I researched I couldn't find much that would say the quartz is superior to the infrared. I did find that quartz heaters have a lot of industrial uses. Ralph _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Boyce Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 3:34 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Hi Ken I hope rJ helped as I live in Australia do a Google Search for your nearest retailer this should come up with a few options. - Original Message - From: Ken Hawk [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:khawk%40triad.rr.com rr.com To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Ray, do you know where you can purchase these units? Ken Hawk - Original Message - From: Ray Boyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:rayb101%40westnet.com.au com.au To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Hi Ed This is what I found out about the heater Q. What is the origin of this amazing heating element in the EdenPURET Heater? A. This advanced heating element was discovered accidentally by a man named John Jones. He had a large old farmhouse that was impossible to heat. Jones had a coal furnace in his basement. Jones placed a sheet of cured copper near the furnace to store it. Cured copper is a type of copper that goes through an extensive heating process to give it special properties. EdenPURET Quartz Infrared Portable Heater After the fire went out in the coal furnace, Jones noticed that the sheet of copper was heating his entire basement evenly, even though the furnace was no longer putting out heat. He also was amazed as to how long the heat stayed in the copper and continued to warm the room. Jones was so taken back by this that he started to experiment. He formed a company to develop a heating source out of this cured copper. But Jones had a number of children and he did not want a heating source that would cause a fire or create other hazardous situations like creating carbon monoxide or radiation. He also did not want his children to get burned. To make a long story short, through a great deal of research and development, Jones developed a heating source that utilized commercial infrared quartz tubes. Q. What advantages does infrared quartz tube heating source have over other heating source products? A. John Jones designed his heating source around the three most important consumer benefits: economy, comfort, and safety. The final development of this infrared quartz heat source cannot be matched by any other heating system in the world. In the EdenPURE system, electricity is used to generate infrared
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters
I don't mean to be an asshole or anything, but could you guys change the damn subject line. I just missed a humdinger of a post because I thought the message was in regards to the original subject line. Geez guys, you aren't even talking about the original device anymore, and what you are talking about is a heck of a lot more interesting for us who don't or aren't planning on buying one of those things. I'll take some cheddar cheese with that whine, thank you. Victor Gouveia [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters
i am interested in the heater and no one on here answered my question OK WHAT DO THESE DAMNED THINGS COST .sO IS THERE A DIFFERENT TYPE THEN THE EDENPURE TERRIE To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters
Hi, Our Sun Twin came today. There was absolutely no assembly required. My wife set the thermostat and plugged it in. Today is relatively warm and so no test for its effectiveness. Ralph [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters
Hi Terry, I'm currently looking into two units. They are the EdenPure and the SunTwin. They range in price from about $300 for units capable of heating an area about 500 square feet to $400 - $450 for units that can heat an area about 1000 to 1200 square feet. I've looked at some other units but I think one of these heaters is what I'll end up buying. Hope this helps. Take care, Ed Przybylek At 04:26 PM 10/16/2006, you wrote: i am interested in the heater and no one on here answered my question OK WHAT DO THESE DAMNED THINGS COST .sO IS THERE A DIFFERENT TYPE THEN THE EDENPURE TERRIE To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters
so howmuch dose this cost . Terrie - Original Message - From: Ken Hawk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 8:24 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Ray, do you know where you can purchase these units? Ken Hawk - Original Message - From: Ray Boyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Hi Ed This is what I found out about the heater Q. What is the origin of this amazing heating element in the EdenPURET Heater? A. This advanced heating element was discovered accidentally by a man named John Jones. He had a large old farmhouse that was impossible to heat. Jones had a coal furnace in his basement. Jones placed a sheet of cured copper near the furnace to store it. Cured copper is a type of copper that goes through an extensive heating process to give it special properties. EdenPURET Quartz Infrared Portable Heater After the fire went out in the coal furnace, Jones noticed that the sheet of copper was heating his entire basement evenly, even though the furnace was no longer putting out heat. He also was amazed as to how long the heat stayed in the copper and continued to warm the room. Jones was so taken back by this that he started to experiment. He formed a company to develop a heating source out of this cured copper. But Jones had a number of children and he did not want a heating source that would cause a fire or create other hazardous situations like creating carbon monoxide or radiation. He also did not want his children to get burned. To make a long story short, through a great deal of research and development, Jones developed a heating source that utilized commercial infrared quartz tubes. Q. What advantages does infrared quartz tube heating source have over other heating source products? A. John Jones designed his heating source around the three most important consumer benefits: economy, comfort, and safety. The final development of this infrared quartz heat source cannot be matched by any other heating system in the world. In the EdenPURE system, electricity is used to generate infrared light which, in turn, creates a very safe heat. Infrared is the safest form of heat because it does not create carbon monoxide or harmful radiation. And, most importantly, infrared heat does not reach a burning temperature. After a great deal of research and development, very efficient infrared heat chambers were developed that utilize three unique patented solid copper heat exchangers in one EdenPURE Heater. Over 5 years of research, development and real life field testing stand behind this heat source. It has now worked in residential and commercial applications worldwide for over 25 years. Q. Why is it that this quartz infrared heating source uses less energy to create heat than other sources? A. Actually, there is more than one reason. One of the primary reasons is that heat at combustion level, which is what all other heat sources use, causes the heat to instantly rise to the ceiling. Therefore, the heat is not evenly distributed, causing a very inefficient and uncomfortable heat source. The EdenPURE Quartz Infrared Portable Heater does not use burning heat. Once the heat exchanger absorbs the infrared heat, it exhales the heat into the living area which is carried by the existing humidity in the air. This causes the heat to travel rapidly and evenly throughout a room. In actual studies, photos using infrared lighting demonstrated that the heat was almost perfectly even from floor-to-ceiling and wall-to-wall. The EdenPURE Quartz Infrared efficiency is based on the distribution of energized air, not on just fan movement. This heat is coined as soft heat due to how comfortable it is. Q. What are the other disadvantages of combustion heat sources? A. Heat sources that are above the burning level have many unhealthy side effects. One of these is that it creates dry, irritating indoor air. It also burns a great deal of oxygen in the air. If you remember, when you sit in front of a fireplace or a portable heater or close to a heat source, you will remember yawning. This is because you are not getting enough oxygen. This dry irritating heat and lack of oxygen dries out sinuses and mucus in the throat, and makes people susceptible to disease. The lack of oxygen causes fatigue. Also, many combustible heat sources produce carbon monoxide, static cling, and some produce radiation. Q. So you're saying that children or pets can come up to this unit and touch it and not be harmed? A. That is absolutely correct. As a matter of fact, pets are actually drawn to this heat because it is a natural source of heat, just like the sun heats the earth. Animals are much more instinctive than humans. This heat
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These are good points, Dale. When I decided to buy one of these I compared the cost of running 1500 watts to warm about 1000 square feet of our house compared to buying propane for our furnace. My calculations were pretty rough but I figured the Sun Twin would pay for itself in one heatin season. However, propane is down from about $1.80 last winter to about $1.20 right now so who knows. _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 7:55 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters I find the hype on this device a little hard to read. The temperature of a room or any space is a function of how fast and far the molecules of air are moving. This takes a fixed amount of energy. The structure of the building, the furniture and other contents of the space all are made up of molecules which vibrate and the faster and further they move, the hotter things will be. Now electricity moves through a conductor more or less at the speed of light. When it meets resistance it gives off energy. Typically energy is released as sound, various forms of electromagnetic radiation such as light, heat, magnetism often used to perform movement. Heating with electricity is pretty efficient because the electricity can be converted directly into various forms of heat. The electromagnetic radiation can be pretty well at any point along the range from very long waves such as long wave radio, up through short wave, UHF, VHF, Microwaves, the spectrum of infrared into the light range and beyond ultraviolet through x-rays up through gamma and alpha radiation. Water absorbs radio frequency radiation pretty well but it takes some circuitry to produce that sort of energy. Short waves have been used for a very long time for therapeutic heat and in the operating room for cauterizing for example. Shorter radio waves in what is now known as the microwave range are used to efficiently heat water in foods as in cooking although that was not the original purpose, it was discovered in the '40s as a side effect of radar radiation, it was not until the invention of the magnetron tube by, I believe the British that it was possible to reliably produce radio frequency wave lengths in that range. We could heat ourselves fairly efficiently with microwaves if we were willing to sit in the directed beam of a device but the room around us would not warm and there are other risks. This brings us to the light radiation wave lengths. While we cannot see infrared light it is there. You can feel it coming off your stove top when the elements are on. Infrared radiation will pass through optically clear materials such as glass and air, well mostly it will. It doesn't generate heat very much until it is absorbed by another substance. Like light, it can be absorbed and it can be reflected. It is mostly the infrared we feel in the sun, why we can feel heat through a glass window while the window does not get warm. Some of you will be familiar with those radiant heaters which glow red and when the reflector concentrates the light at you, you get warm even if surrounding you is cool. For these to actually heat a room the infrared has to be absorbed by something then that heat transferred to the air by convection or conduction. Air, coming into contact with such a substance will become excited, the molecules will jump about more and it warms up. So, an infrared heater may warm you up or parts of your room up, eventually the entire room by shining on stuff and being absorbed causing the molecules of that stuff, be it you or a table to begin jumping about and causing air in contact with that stuff to get excited too. Inside a heater, the infrared bulbs radiate this low red light which is absorbed by some or other material which in turn gets hot and excites air in it's vicinity warming that air which will be moved or circulated either by convection or with a fan to warm more air and so on. Now here is the thing! You can heat oil inside of a panel directly with an element and as that panel heats up it will radiate some infrared and it will warm up air touching it through conduction which will then rise and heat air it contacts through convection. Either way, 1500 watts of electricity will convert into a fixed amount of heat, some methods will be a little more direct than others but the efficiency now is pretty well defined. You can put ten kilowatts into a brick and the brick will cool over some period of time but that isn't free energy as it cools, you put in a lot of energy to raise the temperature of that mass so it takes some time for that energy to defuse. The same ten kilowatts applied more slowly over a longer period of time will keep you as warm. Now there may be many reasons to purchase one particular type of electric heater but these days the efficiency will be about
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Well here is the thing in my humble opinion and it really is humble. A thousand square feet is a modest little house size. I quite simply don't believe it could be heated with 1500 watts. That is only a little more energy than your toaster or electric kettle or iron or hair drier uses. There are cars which the kids cruise around our lake in the middle of our town have more power in there stereo systems. Now if you only need to keep the building a couple of degrees above the out door temperature this may be adequate but your propane furnace will do that with little more than a grunt and you have already paid for it and it won't take up any more space than it already does. Now I may well be wrong and you should bear in mind that I am generally more skeptical and maybe less trusting than I should be. It might well be possible but I suspect it is an expensive way of converting electricity into heat which, if it is more efficient has to be only marginally more efficient and electricity so far is still the most costly energy source in most of the world. I live under two thousand yards from a cogeneration plant which burns saw dust from the local mills to supplement natural gas which comes along a pipeline about 1500 miles from the source of the gas in the ground. They burn the gas after pumping it half way across the continent and generate electricity for the grid at a proffit. I don't grasp how heating a home with that electricity after the losses through the grid can be cheaper than burning the gas or how you can squeeze more heat out of that electricity than the gas originally put into it. Of course my wife insists that a few ounces of chocolate will put five pounds on her and I don't argue that so perhaps it may be. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: Ralph Supernaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 7:28 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters These are good points, Dale. When I decided to buy one of these I compared the cost of running 1500 watts to warm about 1000 square feet of our house compared to buying propane for our furnace. My calculations were pretty rough but I figured the Sun Twin would pay for itself in one heatin season. However, propane is down from about $1.80 last winter to about $1.20 right now so who knows. _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 7:55 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters I find the hype on this device a little hard to read. The temperature of a room or any space is a function of how fast and far the molecules of air are moving. This takes a fixed amount of energy. The structure of the building, the furniture and other contents of the space all are made up of molecules which vibrate and the faster and further they move, the hotter things will be. Now electricity moves through a conductor more or less at the speed of light. When it meets resistance it gives off energy. Typically energy is released as sound, various forms of electromagnetic radiation such as light, heat, magnetism often used to perform movement. Heating with electricity is pretty efficient because the electricity can be converted directly into various forms of heat. The electromagnetic radiation can be pretty well at any point along the range from very long waves such as long wave radio, up through short wave, UHF, VHF, Microwaves, the spectrum of infrared into the light range and beyond ultraviolet through x-rays up through gamma and alpha radiation. Water absorbs radio frequency radiation pretty well but it takes some circuitry to produce that sort of energy. Short waves have been used for a very long time for therapeutic heat and in the operating room for cauterizing for example. Shorter radio waves in what is now known as the microwave range are used to efficiently heat water in foods as in cooking although that was not the original purpose, it was discovered in the '40s as a side effect of radar radiation, it was not until the invention of the magnetron tube by, I believe the British that it was possible to reliably produce radio frequency wave lengths in that range. We could heat ourselves fairly efficiently with microwaves if we were willing to sit in the directed beam of a device but the room around us would not warm and there are other risks. This brings us to the light radiation wave lengths. While we cannot see infrared light it is there. You can feel it coming off your stove top when the elements are on. Infrared radiation will pass through optically clear materials such as glass and air, well mostly it will. It doesn't generate heat very
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Ralph, if this is the same unit I just bought, it uses four bulbs to generate heat. Also, when you get it, you're going to have to take the thing apart to install the bulbs which are in a coregated box inside the unit. You can probably figure it out, but if not, let me know since I just did the same thing. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 4:41 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Let us know how the heater works out this winter, It will be interesting to see. Don - Original Message - From: Ralph Supernaw To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 4:18 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters There is at least one other manufacturer of quartz home space heaters. We just ordered a Sun Twin which is a 1500 watt unit with oak Vanier cabinet. It retails for about $550 but we bought our for $450 on EBay. If there's any interest I can post after we use it some. We were deciding between the Sun Twin and a unit produced by Solar Cloud. The Solar Cloud heater used infrared bulbs instead of the quartz. As I researched I couldn't find much that would say the quartz is superior to the infrared. I did find that quartz heaters have a lot of industrial uses. Ralph _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Boyce Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 3:34 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Hi Ken I hope rJ helped as I live in Australia do a Google Search for your nearest retailer this should come up with a few options. - Original Message - From: Ken Hawk [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:khawk%40triad.rr.com rr.com To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Ray, do you know where you can purchase these units? Ken Hawk - Original Message - From: Ray Boyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:rayb101%40westnet.com.au com.au To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Hi Ed This is what I found out about the heater Q. What is the origin of this amazing heating element in the EdenPURET Heater? A. This advanced heating element was discovered accidentally by a man named John Jones. He had a large old farmhouse that was impossible to heat. Jones had a coal furnace in his basement. Jones placed a sheet of cured copper near the furnace to store it. Cured copper is a type of copper that goes through an extensive heating process to give it special properties. EdenPURET Quartz Infrared Portable Heater After the fire went out in the coal furnace, Jones noticed that the sheet of copper was heating his entire basement evenly, even though the furnace was no longer putting out heat. He also was amazed as to how long the heat stayed in the copper and continued to warm the room. Jones was so taken back by this that he started to experiment. He formed a company to develop a heating source out of this cured copper. But Jones had a number of children and he did not want a heating source that would cause a fire or create other hazardous situations like creating carbon monoxide or radiation. He also did not want his children to get burned. To make a long story short, through a great deal of research and development, Jones developed a heating source that utilized commercial infrared quartz tubes. Q. What advantages does infrared quartz tube heating source have over other heating source products? A. John Jones designed his heating source around the three most important consumer benefits: economy, comfort, and safety. The final development of this infrared quartz heat source cannot be matched by any other heating system in the world. In the EdenPURE system, electricity is used to generate infrared light which, in turn, creates a very safe heat. Infrared is the safest form of heat because it does not create carbon monoxide or harmful radiation. And, most importantly, infrared heat does not reach a burning temperature. After a great deal of research and development, very efficient infrared heat chambers were developed that utilize three unique patented solid copper heat exchangers in one EdenPURE Heater. Over 5 years of research, development and real life field testing stand behind this heat source. It has now worked in residential and commercial applications worldwide for over 25 years. Q. Why
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters
There is no doubt at all that it will produce heat and quite possibly even a little better than other 1500 watt heaters but even according to these figures it is likely to be inadequate. Well insulated they recommend 32000 BTU per thousand square feet. At 3.413 BTU per Watt it would require 9375.9156 Watts and that heater is 1500 so, in a well insulated thousand square foot home it would require 6.25 1500 Watt heaters. Either that or it is over 6 times as efficient at squeezing out heat energy from a watt. In the spring and fall these heaters can certainly be enough to take the chill out of a room as a supplement heater and I hope you are happy with it. I just think that anyone expecting a 1500 watt heater to keep an entire home warm even with minimal heating requirements will be disappointed. Above all I deplore that sort of selling technique. It feels unfair to me. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: William Stephan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 1:17 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters I'm suspending judgment so far as to whether or not the Sun Twin we just bought is worth the money or not. Here's some info I found at sometime in the past that might help estimating heat requirements. Remember, this is Tennessee, so your milage may vary. 1 watt = 3.413BTUs Gas Space Heat Required by Square Footage Table with 5 columns and 5 rows BTUs Required Square Feet 200 400 600 800 Well Insulated 6,400 12,800 19,200 25,600 Average 10,000 20,000 30,000 40,000 Poorly Insulated 12,800 25,600 38,400 51,200 table end Table with 5 columns and 5 rows BTUs Required Square Feet 1,000 1,200 1,600 2,000 Well Insulated 32,000 38,400 51,200 64,000 Average 50,000 60,000 80,000 100,000 Poorly Insulated 64,000 76,800 102,400 128,000 table end THIS TABLE IS FOR QUICK REFERENCE ONLY. EVERY APPLICATION IS DIFFERENT AND THERE ARE MANY FACTORS TO CONSIDER. Notes: This table does not distinguish between vented and unvented heaters. It utilizes formulas that have been used by Middle Tennessee Natural Gas employees. The well insulated rating is figured using 4 BTUs per cubic foot and a ceiling height of 8 feet. The average rating is figured using 50 BTUs per square foot. The poorly insulated rating is figured using 8 BTUs per cubic foot and a ceiling height of 8 feet. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 10:47 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Well here is the thing in my humble opinion and it really is humble. A thousand square feet is a modest little house size. I quite simply don't believe it could be heated with 1500 watts. That is only a little more energy than your toaster or electric kettle or iron or hair drier uses. There are cars which the kids cruise around our lake in the middle of our town have more power in there stereo systems. Now if you only need to keep the building a couple of degrees above the out door temperature this may be adequate but your propane furnace will do that with little more than a grunt and you have already paid for it and it won't take up any more space than it already does. Now I may well be wrong and you should bear in mind that I am generally more skeptical and maybe less trusting than I should be. It might well be possible but I suspect it is an expensive way of converting electricity into heat which, if it is more efficient has to be only marginally more efficient and electricity so far is still the most costly energy source in most of the world. I live under two thousand yards from a cogeneration plant which burns saw dust from the local mills to supplement natural gas which comes along a pipeline about 1500 miles from the source of the gas in the ground. They burn the gas after pumping it half way across the continent and generate electricity for the grid at a proffit. I don't grasp how heating a home with that electricity after the losses through the grid can be cheaper than burning the gas or how you can squeeze more heat out of that electricity than the gas originally put into it. Of course my wife insists that a few ounces of chocolate will put five pounds on her and I don't argue that so perhaps it may be. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: Ralph Supernaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 7:28 AM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters These are good
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Dale, the three-seasons room where we're using the heater I just paid big bucks for is about 125 cubic feet. It's not well insolated at all, so heating it enough to be usable is challenging in winter. This is strictly from memory, so I'm invoking the principle of strict non-attribution. regarding this formula. In another life, I used to lease space heating equipment on construction jobs. If memory serves, the formula we used was: Square feet x 1.4 x degrees F. between ambient temperature and desired temperature. So, if we had 800 square feet, and we wanted to maintain 50 degrees of difference, we'd need 56,000 BTUs. Again, this was years back, and a lot of scotch has flowed since then, but I believe the formula's right. Since there are 21,591 BTUs in a pound of propane, you'd be burning about 2.6 pounds per hour maintaining that. I agree that it's not going to be possible to use one of these as anything more than a supplement in an already heated home. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 1:09 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters There is no doubt at all that it will produce heat and quite possibly even a little better than other 1500 watt heaters but even according to these figures it is likely to be inadequate. Well insulated they recommend 32000 BTU per thousand square feet. At 3.413 BTU per Watt it would require 9375.9156 Watts and that heater is 1500 so, in a well insulated thousand square foot home it would require 6.25 1500 Watt heaters. Either that or it is over 6 times as efficient at squeezing out heat energy from a watt. In the spring and fall these heaters can certainly be enough to take the chill out of a room as a supplement heater and I hope you are happy with it. I just think that anyone expecting a 1500 watt heater to keep an entire home warm even with minimal heating requirements will be disappointed. Above all I deplore that sort of selling technique. It feels unfair to me. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: William Stephan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 1:17 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters I'm suspending judgment so far as to whether or not the Sun Twin we just bought is worth the money or not. Here's some info I found at sometime in the past that might help estimating heat requirements. Remember, this is Tennessee, so your milage may vary. 1 watt = 3.413BTUs Gas Space Heat Required by Square Footage Table with 5 columns and 5 rows BTUs Required Square Feet 200 400 600 800 Well Insulated 6,400 12,800 19,200 25,600 Average 10,000 20,000 30,000 40,000 Poorly Insulated 12,800 25,600 38,400 51,200 table end Table with 5 columns and 5 rows BTUs Required Square Feet 1,000 1,200 1,600 2,000 Well Insulated 32,000 38,400 51,200 64,000 Average 50,000 60,000 80,000 100,000 Poorly Insulated 64,000 76,800 102,400 128,000 table end THIS TABLE IS FOR QUICK REFERENCE ONLY. EVERY APPLICATION IS DIFFERENT AND THERE ARE MANY FACTORS TO CONSIDER. Notes: This table does not distinguish between vented and unvented heaters. It utilizes formulas that have been used by Middle Tennessee Natural Gas employees. The well insulated rating is figured using 4 BTUs per cubic foot and a ceiling height of 8 feet. The average rating is figured using 50 BTUs per square foot. The poorly insulated rating is figured using 8 BTUs per cubic foot and a ceiling height of 8 feet. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 10:47 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Well here is the thing in my humble opinion and it really is humble. A thousand square feet is a modest little house size. I quite simply don't believe it could be heated with 1500 watts. That is only a little more energy than your toaster or electric kettle or iron or hair drier uses. There are cars which the kids cruise around our lake in the middle of our town have more power in there stereo systems. Now if you only need to keep the building a couple of degrees above the out door temperature this may be adequate but your propane furnace will do that with little more than a grunt and you have already paid for it and it won't take up any more space than it already does. Now I may well be wrong and you should bear in mind that I am generally more skeptical and maybe less trusting than I should be. It might well be possible but I suspect it is an expensive way of converting electricity into heat
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OOPSE! It's 125 square feet, not cubic feet. Time to self-medicate again I guess. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Stephan Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 2:52 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Dale, the three-seasons room where we're using the heater I just paid big bucks for is about 125 cubic feet. It's not well insolated at all, so heating it enough to be usable is challenging in winter. This is strictly from memory, so I'm invoking the principle of strict non-attribution. regarding this formula. In another life, I used to lease space heating equipment on construction jobs. If memory serves, the formula we used was: Square feet x 1.4 x degrees F. between ambient temperature and desired temperature. So, if we had 800 square feet, and we wanted to maintain 50 degrees of difference, we'd need 56,000 BTUs. Again, this was years back, and a lot of scotch has flowed since then, but I believe the formula's right. Since there are 21,591 BTUs in a pound of propane, you'd be burning about 2.6 pounds per hour maintaining that. I agree that it's not going to be possible to use one of these as anything more than a supplement in an already heated home. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 1:09 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters There is no doubt at all that it will produce heat and quite possibly even a little better than other 1500 watt heaters but even according to these figures it is likely to be inadequate. Well insulated they recommend 32000 BTU per thousand square feet. At 3.413 BTU per Watt it would require 9375.9156 Watts and that heater is 1500 so, in a well insulated thousand square foot home it would require 6.25 1500 Watt heaters. Either that or it is over 6 times as efficient at squeezing out heat energy from a watt. In the spring and fall these heaters can certainly be enough to take the chill out of a room as a supplement heater and I hope you are happy with it. I just think that anyone expecting a 1500 watt heater to keep an entire home warm even with minimal heating requirements will be disappointed. Above all I deplore that sort of selling technique. It feels unfair to me. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: William Stephan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 1:17 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters I'm suspending judgment so far as to whether or not the Sun Twin we just bought is worth the money or not. Here's some info I found at sometime in the past that might help estimating heat requirements. Remember, this is Tennessee, so your milage may vary. 1 watt = 3.413BTUs Gas Space Heat Required by Square Footage Table with 5 columns and 5 rows BTUs Required Square Feet 200 400 600 800 Well Insulated 6,400 12,800 19,200 25,600 Average 10,000 20,000 30,000 40,000 Poorly Insulated 12,800 25,600 38,400 51,200 table end Table with 5 columns and 5 rows BTUs Required Square Feet 1,000 1,200 1,600 2,000 Well Insulated 32,000 38,400 51,200 64,000 Average 50,000 60,000 80,000 100,000 Poorly Insulated 64,000 76,800 102,400 128,000 table end THIS TABLE IS FOR QUICK REFERENCE ONLY. EVERY APPLICATION IS DIFFERENT AND THERE ARE MANY FACTORS TO CONSIDER. Notes: This table does not distinguish between vented and unvented heaters. It utilizes formulas that have been used by Middle Tennessee Natural Gas employees. The well insulated rating is figured using 4 BTUs per cubic foot and a ceiling height of 8 feet. The average rating is figured using 50 BTUs per square foot. The poorly insulated rating is figured using 8 BTUs per cubic foot and a ceiling height of 8 feet. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 10:47 AM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Well here is the thing in my humble opinion and it really is humble. A thousand square feet is a modest little house size. I quite simply don't believe it could be heated with 1500 watts. That is only a little more energy than your toaster or electric kettle or iron or hair drier uses. There are cars which the kids cruise around our lake in the middle of our town have more power in there stereo systems. Now if you only need to keep the building a couple of degrees above the out door temperature this may be adequate but your propane furnace will do that with little more than
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Dale, there are interesting cmplications to all of this too. First, propane turns into a liquid at -40, so the tanks themselves have to be heated. Then, because of the tanks breathing, if the surface area is too small, as the level drops, ice forms on the outside of the tanks and the gas quits flowing. I was in Alaska, right at the tail end of the pipeline boom, and I was absolutely amazed at the conditions those folks worked and succeeded under. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 4:10 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters I have often wondered about the heating requirements on building sites. Here they often work even into the winter under tents or tarpaulins even including pouring cement! They run these huge heaters at what has to be ridiculous cost however winter contracts are often cheaper because there is so much less competition for builders. They probably work for little profit just to keep good workers employed and available for the spring. They are often heating an area while erecting steel and I have observed temperatures well below minus 40. Often they are lighting too with days here under eight hours of sunlight and I understand in the Yukon and parts of Alaska little or no daylight hours at all. Of course up there building costs are outrageous anyway because of the cost of transportation and they have to bring everything in. I couldn't debate your figures at all I just don't know. I am aware though that just as soon as they make any sort of supplemental heating appliance to be a decent piece of furniture the price goes crazy! Much of it hardly gets used but it does need to look good even when not in use. Your room is quite a bit smaller than the thousand square feet they claim so you will probably find it does the job required. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: William Stephan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 3:51 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Dale, the three-seasons room where we're using the heater I just paid big bucks for is about 125 cubic feet. It's not well insolated at all, so heating it enough to be usable is challenging in winter. This is strictly from memory, so I'm invoking the principle of strict non-attribution. regarding this formula. In another life, I used to lease space heating equipment on construction jobs. If memory serves, the formula we used was: Square feet x 1.4 x degrees F. between ambient temperature and desired temperature. So, if we had 800 square feet, and we wanted to maintain 50 degrees of difference, we'd need 56,000 BTUs. Again, this was years back, and a lot of scotch has flowed since then, but I believe the formula's right. Since there are 21,591 BTUs in a pound of propane, you'd be burning about 2.6 pounds per hour maintaining that. I agree that it's not going to be possible to use one of these as anything more than a supplement in an already heated home. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 1:09 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters There is no doubt at all that it will produce heat and quite possibly even a little better than other 1500 watt heaters but even according to these figures it is likely to be inadequate. Well insulated they recommend 32000 BTU per thousand square feet. At 3.413 BTU per Watt it would require 9375.9156 Watts and that heater is 1500 so, in a well insulated thousand square foot home it would require 6.25 1500 Watt heaters. Either that or it is over 6 times as efficient at squeezing out heat energy from a watt. In the spring and fall these heaters can certainly be enough to take the chill out of a room as a supplement heater and I hope you are happy with it. I just think that anyone expecting a 1500 watt heater to keep an entire home warm even with minimal heating requirements will be disappointed. Above all I deplore that sort of selling technique. It feels unfair to me. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: William Stephan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 1:17 PM Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters I'm suspending judgment so far as to whether or not the Sun Twin we just bought is worth the money or not. Here's some info I found at sometime in the past that might help estimating heat
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Ray, do you know where you can purchase these units? Ken Hawk - Original Message - From: Ray Boyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Hi Ed This is what I found out about the heater Q. What is the origin of this amazing heating element in the EdenPURET Heater? A. This advanced heating element was discovered accidentally by a man named John Jones. He had a large old farmhouse that was impossible to heat. Jones had a coal furnace in his basement. Jones placed a sheet of cured copper near the furnace to store it. Cured copper is a type of copper that goes through an extensive heating process to give it special properties. EdenPURET Quartz Infrared Portable Heater After the fire went out in the coal furnace, Jones noticed that the sheet of copper was heating his entire basement evenly, even though the furnace was no longer putting out heat. He also was amazed as to how long the heat stayed in the copper and continued to warm the room. Jones was so taken back by this that he started to experiment. He formed a company to develop a heating source out of this cured copper. But Jones had a number of children and he did not want a heating source that would cause a fire or create other hazardous situations like creating carbon monoxide or radiation. He also did not want his children to get burned. To make a long story short, through a great deal of research and development, Jones developed a heating source that utilized commercial infrared quartz tubes. Q. What advantages does infrared quartz tube heating source have over other heating source products? A. John Jones designed his heating source around the three most important consumer benefits: economy, comfort, and safety. The final development of this infrared quartz heat source cannot be matched by any other heating system in the world. In the EdenPURE system, electricity is used to generate infrared light which, in turn, creates a very safe heat. Infrared is the safest form of heat because it does not create carbon monoxide or harmful radiation. And, most importantly, infrared heat does not reach a burning temperature. After a great deal of research and development, very efficient infrared heat chambers were developed that utilize three unique patented solid copper heat exchangers in one EdenPURE Heater. Over 5 years of research, development and real life field testing stand behind this heat source. It has now worked in residential and commercial applications worldwide for over 25 years. Q. Why is it that this quartz infrared heating source uses less energy to create heat than other sources? A. Actually, there is more than one reason. One of the primary reasons is that heat at combustion level, which is what all other heat sources use, causes the heat to instantly rise to the ceiling. Therefore, the heat is not evenly distributed, causing a very inefficient and uncomfortable heat source. The EdenPURE Quartz Infrared Portable Heater does not use burning heat. Once the heat exchanger absorbs the infrared heat, it exhales the heat into the living area which is carried by the existing humidity in the air. This causes the heat to travel rapidly and evenly throughout a room. In actual studies, photos using infrared lighting demonstrated that the heat was almost perfectly even from floor-to-ceiling and wall-to-wall. The EdenPURE Quartz Infrared efficiency is based on the distribution of energized air, not on just fan movement. This heat is coined as soft heat due to how comfortable it is. Q. What are the other disadvantages of combustion heat sources? A. Heat sources that are above the burning level have many unhealthy side effects. One of these is that it creates dry, irritating indoor air. It also burns a great deal of oxygen in the air. If you remember, when you sit in front of a fireplace or a portable heater or close to a heat source, you will remember yawning. This is because you are not getting enough oxygen. This dry irritating heat and lack of oxygen dries out sinuses and mucus in the throat, and makes people susceptible to disease. The lack of oxygen causes fatigue. Also, many combustible heat sources produce carbon monoxide, static cling, and some produce radiation. Q. So you're saying that children or pets can come up to this unit and touch it and not be harmed? A. That is absolutely correct. As a matter of fact, pets are actually drawn to this heat because it is a natural source of heat, just like the sun heats the earth. Animals are much more instinctive than humans. This heat not only heats the air, but it also heats the objects in the room. It is a perfectly balanced heat. Q. How can a person cut their heating bill by up to 50% with the EdenPURE? A. First, the EdenPURE uses less energy to create
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Not Ray, But you can order them off the net, by typing in Edenpure the edit field of your search engine. Amazon has one up for bid at the present. The bid is $305 the last time I looked. The retail price is $397 for the larger model and around $300 for the smaller model. The cabinet is made of plastic and has a 60 day money back guarantee, Believe the unit is guaranteed for three years. They are basing the energy saving on the price of fuel oil. RJ - Original Message - From: Ken Hawk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Ray, do you know where you can purchase these units? Ken Hawk - Original Message - From: Ray Boyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Hi Ed This is what I found out about the heater Q. What is the origin of this amazing heating element in the EdenPURET Heater? A. This advanced heating element was discovered accidentally by a man named John Jones. He had a large old farmhouse that was impossible to heat. Jones had a coal furnace in his basement. Jones placed a sheet of cured copper near the furnace to store it. Cured copper is a type of copper that goes through an extensive heating process to give it special properties. EdenPURET Quartz Infrared Portable Heater After the fire went out in the coal furnace, Jones noticed that the sheet of copper was heating his entire basement evenly, even though the furnace was no longer putting out heat. He also was amazed as to how long the heat stayed in the copper and continued to warm the room. Jones was so taken back by this that he started to experiment. He formed a company to develop a heating source out of this cured copper. But Jones had a number of children and he did not want a heating source that would cause a fire or create other hazardous situations like creating carbon monoxide or radiation. He also did not want his children to get burned. To make a long story short, through a great deal of research and development, Jones developed a heating source that utilized commercial infrared quartz tubes. Q. What advantages does infrared quartz tube heating source have over other heating source products? A. John Jones designed his heating source around the three most important consumer benefits: economy, comfort, and safety. The final development of this infrared quartz heat source cannot be matched by any other heating system in the world. In the EdenPURE system, electricity is used to generate infrared light which, in turn, creates a very safe heat. Infrared is the safest form of heat because it does not create carbon monoxide or harmful radiation. And, most importantly, infrared heat does not reach a burning temperature. After a great deal of research and development, very efficient infrared heat chambers were developed that utilize three unique patented solid copper heat exchangers in one EdenPURE Heater. Over 5 years of research, development and real life field testing stand behind this heat source. It has now worked in residential and commercial applications worldwide for over 25 years. Q. Why is it that this quartz infrared heating source uses less energy to create heat than other sources? A. Actually, there is more than one reason. One of the primary reasons is that heat at combustion level, which is what all other heat sources use, causes the heat to instantly rise to the ceiling. Therefore, the heat is not evenly distributed, causing a very inefficient and uncomfortable heat source. The EdenPURE Quartz Infrared Portable Heater does not use burning heat. Once the heat exchanger absorbs the infrared heat, it exhales the heat into the living area which is carried by the existing humidity in the air. This causes the heat to travel rapidly and evenly throughout a room. In actual studies, photos using infrared lighting demonstrated that the heat was almost perfectly even from floor-to-ceiling and wall-to-wall. The EdenPURE Quartz Infrared efficiency is based on the distribution of energized air, not on just fan movement. This heat is coined as soft heat due to how comfortable it is. Q. What are the other disadvantages of combustion heat sources? A. Heat sources that are above the burning level have many unhealthy side effects. One of these is that it creates dry, irritating indoor air. It also burns a great deal of oxygen in the air. If you remember, when you sit in front of a fireplace or a portable heater or close to a heat source, you will remember yawning. This is because you are not getting enough oxygen. This dry irritating heat and lack of oxygen dries out sinuses and mucus in the throat, and makes people
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Hi Ken I hope rJ helped as I live in Australia do a Google Search for your nearest retailer this should come up with a few options. - Original Message - From: Ken Hawk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Ray, do you know where you can purchase these units? Ken Hawk - Original Message - From: Ray Boyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Hi Ed This is what I found out about the heater Q. What is the origin of this amazing heating element in the EdenPURET Heater? A. This advanced heating element was discovered accidentally by a man named John Jones. He had a large old farmhouse that was impossible to heat. Jones had a coal furnace in his basement. Jones placed a sheet of cured copper near the furnace to store it. Cured copper is a type of copper that goes through an extensive heating process to give it special properties. EdenPURET Quartz Infrared Portable Heater After the fire went out in the coal furnace, Jones noticed that the sheet of copper was heating his entire basement evenly, even though the furnace was no longer putting out heat. He also was amazed as to how long the heat stayed in the copper and continued to warm the room. Jones was so taken back by this that he started to experiment. He formed a company to develop a heating source out of this cured copper. But Jones had a number of children and he did not want a heating source that would cause a fire or create other hazardous situations like creating carbon monoxide or radiation. He also did not want his children to get burned. To make a long story short, through a great deal of research and development, Jones developed a heating source that utilized commercial infrared quartz tubes. Q. What advantages does infrared quartz tube heating source have over other heating source products? A. John Jones designed his heating source around the three most important consumer benefits: economy, comfort, and safety. The final development of this infrared quartz heat source cannot be matched by any other heating system in the world. In the EdenPURE system, electricity is used to generate infrared light which, in turn, creates a very safe heat. Infrared is the safest form of heat because it does not create carbon monoxide or harmful radiation. And, most importantly, infrared heat does not reach a burning temperature. After a great deal of research and development, very efficient infrared heat chambers were developed that utilize three unique patented solid copper heat exchangers in one EdenPURE Heater. Over 5 years of research, development and real life field testing stand behind this heat source. It has now worked in residential and commercial applications worldwide for over 25 years. Q. Why is it that this quartz infrared heating source uses less energy to create heat than other sources? A. Actually, there is more than one reason. One of the primary reasons is that heat at combustion level, which is what all other heat sources use, causes the heat to instantly rise to the ceiling. Therefore, the heat is not evenly distributed, causing a very inefficient and uncomfortable heat source. The EdenPURE Quartz Infrared Portable Heater does not use burning heat. Once the heat exchanger absorbs the infrared heat, it exhales the heat into the living area which is carried by the existing humidity in the air. This causes the heat to travel rapidly and evenly throughout a room. In actual studies, photos using infrared lighting demonstrated that the heat was almost perfectly even from floor-to-ceiling and wall-to-wall. The EdenPURE Quartz Infrared efficiency is based on the distribution of energized air, not on just fan movement. This heat is coined as soft heat due to how comfortable it is. Q. What are the other disadvantages of combustion heat sources? A. Heat sources that are above the burning level have many unhealthy side effects. One of these is that it creates dry, irritating indoor air. It also burns a great deal of oxygen in the air. If you remember, when you sit in front of a fireplace or a portable heater or close to a heat source, you will remember yawning. This is because you are not getting enough oxygen. This dry irritating heat and lack of oxygen dries out sinuses and mucus in the throat, and makes people susceptible to disease. The lack of oxygen causes fatigue. Also, many combustible heat sources produce carbon monoxide, static cling, and some produce radiation. Q. So you're saying that children or pets can come up to this unit and touch it and not be harmed? A. That is absolutely correct. As a matter of fact, pets are actually drawn to this heat because it is a natural source of heat
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There is at least one other manufacturer of quartz home space heaters. We just ordered a Sun Twin which is a 1500 watt unit with oak Vanier cabinet. It retails for about $550 but we bought our for $450 on EBay. If there's any interest I can post after we use it some. We were deciding between the Sun Twin and a unit produced by Solar Cloud. The Solar Cloud heater used infrared bulbs instead of the quartz. As I researched I couldn't find much that would say the quartz is superior to the infrared. I did find that quartz heaters have a lot of industrial uses. Ralph _ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Boyce Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 3:34 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Hi Ken I hope rJ helped as I live in Australia do a Google Search for your nearest retailer this should come up with a few options. - Original Message - From: Ken Hawk [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:khawk%40triad.rr.com rr.com To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Ray, do you know where you can purchase these units? Ken Hawk - Original Message - From: Ray Boyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:rayb101%40westnet.com.au com.au To: blindhandyman@ mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Hi Ed This is what I found out about the heater Q. What is the origin of this amazing heating element in the EdenPURET Heater? A. This advanced heating element was discovered accidentally by a man named John Jones. He had a large old farmhouse that was impossible to heat. Jones had a coal furnace in his basement. Jones placed a sheet of cured copper near the furnace to store it. Cured copper is a type of copper that goes through an extensive heating process to give it special properties. EdenPURET Quartz Infrared Portable Heater After the fire went out in the coal furnace, Jones noticed that the sheet of copper was heating his entire basement evenly, even though the furnace was no longer putting out heat. He also was amazed as to how long the heat stayed in the copper and continued to warm the room. Jones was so taken back by this that he started to experiment. He formed a company to develop a heating source out of this cured copper. But Jones had a number of children and he did not want a heating source that would cause a fire or create other hazardous situations like creating carbon monoxide or radiation. He also did not want his children to get burned. To make a long story short, through a great deal of research and development, Jones developed a heating source that utilized commercial infrared quartz tubes. Q. What advantages does infrared quartz tube heating source have over other heating source products? A. John Jones designed his heating source around the three most important consumer benefits: economy, comfort, and safety. The final development of this infrared quartz heat source cannot be matched by any other heating system in the world. In the EdenPURE system, electricity is used to generate infrared light which, in turn, creates a very safe heat. Infrared is the safest form of heat because it does not create carbon monoxide or harmful radiation. And, most importantly, infrared heat does not reach a burning temperature. After a great deal of research and development, very efficient infrared heat chambers were developed that utilize three unique patented solid copper heat exchangers in one EdenPURE Heater. Over 5 years of research, development and real life field testing stand behind this heat source. It has now worked in residential and commercial applications worldwide for over 25 years. Q. Why is it that this quartz infrared heating source uses less energy to create heat than other sources? A. Actually, there is more than one reason. One of the primary reasons is that heat at combustion level, which is what all other heat sources use, causes the heat to instantly rise to the ceiling. Therefore, the heat is not evenly distributed, causing a very inefficient and uncomfortable heat source. The EdenPURE Quartz Infrared Portable Heater does not use burning heat. Once the heat exchanger absorbs the infrared heat, it exhales the heat into the living area which is carried by the existing humidity in the air. This causes the heat to travel rapidly and evenly throughout a room. In actual studies, photos using infrared lighting demonstrated that the heat was almost perfectly even from floor-to-ceiling and wall-to-wall. The EdenPURE Quartz Infrared efficiency is based on the distribution of energized air, not on just fan movement. This heat is coined as soft heat due to how comfortable
[BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters
Ralph, I would very much to know what you think of this unit. Though I use my sun-room for solar heat, the days there is no sun for the sun-room. I am thinking if the reports are good it would be a nice unit to have. So, I would be very interested in your model and it's performance. Geno Portland, ME. sent 5:36 PM EST To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I have one of these and will have to look up the information on where I got it from, but it does heat 1000 sqf. You must have it by an indoor wall not an outside wall and put it on carpet as on cement the cement will absorb and not let it heat properly so my instructions said. I used it a little last year and it did great. I have not used it enough to tell if this will help be cost effective or not. -Original Message- From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Przybylek Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 1:29 PM To: BlindHandyManList Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Hi all, I've been looking at quartz infrared heaters to help supplement my home heating this winter. The paticular unit I've been looking at is called the EdenPure. Supposedly the larger unit will heat 1000 square feet. Has anyone had any experience with this type of heater and if so, what did/do you think of it? Thanks. Take care, Ed Przybylek To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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all would like to save energy money. It can leave us vulnerable though to hype. Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype DaleLeavens Come and meet Aurora, Nakita and Nanook at our polar bear habitat. - Original Message - From: Geno [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 5:36 PM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Ralph, I would very much to know what you think of this unit. Though I use my sun-room for solar heat, the days there is no sun for the sun-room. I am thinking if the reports are good it would be a nice unit to have. So, I would be very interested in your model and it's performance. Geno Portland, ME. sent 5:36 PM EST To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/475 - Release Date: 13/10/2006 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Very well said Dale. I couldn't have said it better myself. The bottom line is, you can't get something for nothing. Regards. Max. K 4 O D S. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dale Leavens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters I find the hype on this device a little hard to read. The temperature of a room or any space is a function of how fast and far the molecules of air are moving. This takes a fixed amount of energy. The structure of the building, the furniture and other contents of the space all are made up of molecules which vibrate and the faster and further they move, the hotter things will be. Now electricity moves through a conductor more or less at the speed of light. When it meets resistance it gives off energy. Typically energy is released as sound, various forms of electromagnetic radiation such as light, heat, magnetism often used to perform movement. Heating with electricity is pretty efficient because the electricity can be converted directly into various forms of heat. The electromagnetic radiation can be pretty well at any point along the range from very long waves such as long wave radio, up through short wave, UHF, VHF, Microwaves, the spectrum of infrared into the light range and beyond ultraviolet through x-rays up through gamma and alpha radiation. Water absorbs radio frequency radiation pretty well but it takes some circuitry to produce that sort of energy. Short waves have been used for a very long time for therapeutic heat and in the operating room for cauterizing for example. Shorter radio waves in what is now known as the microwave range are used to efficiently heat water in foods as in cooking although that was not the original purpose, it was discovered in the '40s as a side effect of radar radiation, it was not until the invention of the magnetron tube by, I believe the British that it was possible to reliably produce radio frequency wave lengths in that range. We could heat ourselves fairly efficiently with microwaves if we were willing to sit in the directed beam of a device but the room around us would not warm and there are other risks. This brings us to the light radiation wave lengths. While we cannot see infrared light it is there. You can feel it coming off your stove top when the elements are on. Infrared radiation will pass through optically clear materials such as glass and air, well mostly it will. It doesn't generate heat very much until it is absorbed by another substance. Like light, it can be absorbed and it can be reflected. It is mostly the infrared we feel in the sun, why we can feel heat through a glass window while the window does not get warm. Some of you will be familiar with those radiant heaters which glow red and when the reflector concentrates the light at you, you get warm even if surrounding you is cool. For these to actually heat a room the infrared has to be absorbed by something then that heat transferred to the air by convection or conduction. Air, coming into contact with such a substance will become excited, the molecules will jump about more and it warms up. So, an infrared heater may warm you up or parts of your room up, eventually the entire room by shining on stuff and being absorbed causing the molecules of that stuff, be it you or a table to begin jumping about and causing air in contact with that stuff to get excited too. Inside a heater, the infrared bulbs radiate this low red light which is absorbed by some or other material which in turn gets hot and excites air in it's vicinity warming that air which will be moved or circulated either by convection or with a fan to warm more air and so on. Now here is the thing! You can heat oil inside of a panel directly with an element and as that panel heats up it will radiate some infrared and it will warm up air touching it through conduction which will then rise and heat air it contacts through convection. Either way, 1500 watts of electricity will convert into a fixed amount of heat, some methods will be a little more direct than others but the efficiency now is pretty well defined. You can put ten kilowatts into a brick and the brick will cool over some period of time but that isn't free energy as it cools, you put in a lot of energy to raise the temperature of that mass so it takes some time for that energy to defuse. The same ten kilowatts applied more slowly over a longer period of time will keep you as warm. Now there may be many reasons to purchase one particular type of electric heater but these days the efficiency
[BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters
Hi all, I've been looking at quartz infrared heaters to help supplement my home heating this winter. The paticular unit I've been looking at is called the EdenPure. Supposedly the larger unit will heat 1000 square feet. Has anyone had any experience with this type of heater and if so, what did/do you think of it? Thanks. Take care, Ed Przybylek To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Ed: I just bought an infrared heater to heat a three-seasons room. Mine's a Suncloud, not quartz. It has four 675 watt (I think) infrared bulbs mounted below a heat exchanger with a small fan. Since the thing draws 1,500 watts, it's only rated at like 5,300 BTUs or so, but the manufacturer claims that the combination of the special heat exchanger and the fact that it's infrared cause it to deliver that amount of heat very efficiently. We had the thing on last evening, and we got down to just about freezing. It kept the room very comfortable at that temperature, and didn't run continuously. I don't know how it'll do when it's zero, but it's a lot better than either the fan-forced heater I have or the oil-filled one we used last year, which incidentally died right at the end of the season despite being new. The only bad thing about this is the cost. I paid like $530.00 for the thing. The unit I bought and the bulbs are guaranteed for three years. Anybody know if you can use a light probe to check infrared bulbs? Good luck Ed. comes in a furniture-grade cabinet, Bill Stephan Kansas City, MO (816)803-2469 William Stephan -Original Message- From: Edward Przybylek[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10/13/06 1:29:02 PM To: BlindHandyManListblindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Hi all, I've been looking at quartz infrared heaters to help supplement my home heating this winter. The paticular unit I've been looking at is called the EdenPure. Supposedly the larger unit will heat 1000 square feet. Has anyone had any experience with this type of heater and if so, what did/do you think of it? Thanks. Take care, Ed Przybylek To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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to another room, it will quickly heat that room also. This can drastically cut heating bills, in some instances, by up to 50%. Q. I also understand that the EdenPURE produces clean fresh air without furnace filters. How can it do that? A. A furnace generates a lot of dust due to the combustion. By lowering the furnace temperature, you are using your furnace less and therefore reducing the requirement for the furnace filters. Also, when there's no combustion, there are no harmful fumes. Q. So, the EdenPURE is totally safe to use? A. It absolutely is. The EdenPURE has zero clearance, which means you can push it up against the wall or furniture without risk of fire. Tests prove the unit does not transmit any energy into the atmosphere that will burn or harm anyone regardless of distance between the person and the EdenPURE. The EdenPURE can be put next to flammable materials with no safety clearance needed. The EdenPURE will pay for itself in weeks. It will put a great deal of extra money in a users pocket. Because of today's spiraling gas, oil, propane, and other energy costs, the EdenPURE will provide even greater savings as the time goes by. The EdenPURE Model 500 can comfortably heat a room up to 300 square feet and the EdenPURE Model 1000 can comfortably heat a room up to 1,000 square feet. EdenPURE Frequently Asked Questions | EdenPURE Details | - Original Message - From: Edward Przybylek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: BlindHandyManList blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 4:29 AM Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Hi all, I've been looking at quartz infrared heaters to help supplement my home heating this winter. The paticular unit I've been looking at is called the EdenPure. Supposedly the larger unit will heat 1000 square feet. Has anyone had any experience with this type of heater and if so, what did/do you think of it? Thanks. Take care, Ed Przybylek To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.3/473 - Release Date: 10/12/2006 To listen to the show archives go to link http://acbradio.org/handyman.html or ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From Various List Members At The Following Address: http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/ Visit the new archives page at the following address http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man list just send a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindhandyman/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Great post,. Ray, I wonder why I have never ever heard of this heater, I am going to research this some more. Thanks for sending this information. Don - Original Message - From: Ray Boyce To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Hi Ed This is what I found out about the heater Q. What is the origin of this amazing heating element in the EdenPURET Heater? A. This advanced heating element was discovered accidentally by a man named John Jones. He had a large old farmhouse that was impossible to heat. Jones had a coal furnace in his basement. Jones placed a sheet of cured copper near the furnace to store it. Cured copper is a type of copper that goes through an extensive heating process to give it special properties. EdenPURET Quartz Infrared Portable Heater After the fire went out in the coal furnace, Jones noticed that the sheet of copper was heating his entire basement evenly, even though the furnace was no longer putting out heat. He also was amazed as to how long the heat stayed in the copper and continued to warm the room. Jones was so taken back by this that he started to experiment. He formed a company to develop a heating source out of this cured copper. But Jones had a number of children and he did not want a heating source that would cause a fire or create other hazardous situations like creating carbon monoxide or radiation. He also did not want his children to get burned. To make a long story short, through a great deal of research and development, Jones developed a heating source that utilized commercial infrared quartz tubes. Q. What advantages does infrared quartz tube heating source have over other heating source products? A. John Jones designed his heating source around the three most important consumer benefits: economy, comfort, and safety. The final development of this infrared quartz heat source cannot be matched by any other heating system in the world. In the EdenPURE system, electricity is used to generate infrared light which, in turn, creates a very safe heat. Infrared is the safest form of heat because it does not create carbon monoxide or harmful radiation. And, most importantly, infrared heat does not reach a burning temperature. After a great deal of research and development, very efficient infrared heat chambers were developed that utilize three unique patented solid copper heat exchangers in one EdenPURE Heater. Over 5 years of research, development and real life field testing stand behind this heat source. It has now worked in residential and commercial applications worldwide for over 25 years. Q. Why is it that this quartz infrared heating source uses less energy to create heat than other sources? A. Actually, there is more than one reason. One of the primary reasons is that heat at combustion level, which is what all other heat sources use, causes the heat to instantly rise to the ceiling. Therefore, the heat is not evenly distributed, causing a very inefficient and uncomfortable heat source. The EdenPURE Quartz Infrared Portable Heater does not use burning heat. Once the heat exchanger absorbs the infrared heat, it exhales the heat into the living area which is carried by the existing humidity in the air. This causes the heat to travel rapidly and evenly throughout a room. In actual studies, photos using infrared lighting demonstrated that the heat was almost perfectly even from floor-to-ceiling and wall-to-wall. The EdenPURE Quartz Infrared efficiency is based on the distribution of energized air, not on just fan movement. This heat is coined as soft heat due to how comfortable it is. Q. What are the other disadvantages of combustion heat sources? A. Heat sources that are above the burning level have many unhealthy side effects. One of these is that it creates dry, irritating indoor air. It also burns a great deal of oxygen in the air. If you remember, when you sit in front of a fireplace or a portable heater or close to a heat source, you will remember yawning. This is because you are not getting enough oxygen. This dry irritating heat and lack of oxygen dries out sinuses and mucus in the throat, and makes people susceptible to disease. The lack of oxygen causes fatigue. Also, many combustible heat sources produce carbon monoxide, static cling, and some produce radiation. Q. So you're saying that children or pets can come up to this unit and touch it and not be harmed? A. That is absolutely correct. As a matter of fact, pets are actually drawn to this heat because it is a natural source of heat, just like the sun heats the earth. Animals are much more instinctive than humans. This heat not only heats the air, but it also heats the objects in the room
Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters
You can see infra red with a light probe, it is actually more efficient in that part of the spectrum. Geoff - Original Message - From: Ray Boyce To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Quartz Infrared Heaters Hi Ed This is what I found out about the heater Q. What is the origin of this amazing heating element in the EdenPURET Heater? A. This advanced heating element was discovered accidentally by a man named John Jones. He had a large old farmhouse that was impossible to heat. Jones had a coal furnace in his basement. Jones placed a sheet of cured copper near the furnace to store it. Cured copper is a type of copper that goes through an extensive heating process to give it special properties. EdenPURET Quartz Infrared Portable Heater After the fire went out in the coal furnace, Jones noticed that the sheet of copper was heating his entire basement evenly, even though the furnace was no longer putting out heat. He also was amazed as to how long the heat stayed in the copper and continued to warm the room. Jones was so taken back by this that he started to experiment. He formed a company to develop a heating source out of this cured copper. But Jones had a number of children and he did not want a heating source that would cause a fire or create other hazardous situations like creating carbon monoxide or radiation. He also did not want his children to get burned. To make a long story short, through a great deal of research and development, Jones developed a heating source that utilized commercial infrared quartz tubes. Q. What advantages does infrared quartz tube heating source have over other heating source products? A. John Jones designed his heating source around the three most important consumer benefits: economy, comfort, and safety. The final development of this infrared quartz heat source cannot be matched by any other heating system in the world. In the EdenPURE system, electricity is used to generate infrared light which, in turn, creates a very safe heat. Infrared is the safest form of heat because it does not create carbon monoxide or harmful radiation. And, most importantly, infrared heat does not reach a burning temperature. After a great deal of research and development, very efficient infrared heat chambers were developed that utilize three unique patented solid copper heat exchangers in one EdenPURE Heater. Over 5 years of research, development and real life field testing stand behind this heat source. It has now worked in residential and commercial applications worldwide for over 25 years. Q. Why is it that this quartz infrared heating source uses less energy to create heat than other sources? A. Actually, there is more than one reason. One of the primary reasons is that heat at combustion level, which is what all other heat sources use, causes the heat to instantly rise to the ceiling. Therefore, the heat is not evenly distributed, causing a very inefficient and uncomfortable heat source. The EdenPURE Quartz Infrared Portable Heater does not use burning heat. Once the heat exchanger absorbs the infrared heat, it exhales the heat into the living area which is carried by the existing humidity in the air. This causes the heat to travel rapidly and evenly throughout a room. In actual studies, photos using infrared lighting demonstrated that the heat was almost perfectly even from floor-to-ceiling and wall-to-wall. The EdenPURE Quartz Infrared efficiency is based on the distribution of energized air, not on just fan movement. This heat is coined as soft heat due to how comfortable it is. Q. What are the other disadvantages of combustion heat sources? A. Heat sources that are above the burning level have many unhealthy side effects. One of these is that it creates dry, irritating indoor air. It also burns a great deal of oxygen in the air. If you remember, when you sit in front of a fireplace or a portable heater or close to a heat source, you will remember yawning. This is because you are not getting enough oxygen. This dry irritating heat and lack of oxygen dries out sinuses and mucus in the throat, and makes people susceptible to disease. The lack of oxygen causes fatigue. Also, many combustible heat sources produce carbon monoxide, static cling, and some produce radiation. Q. So you're saying that children or pets can come up to this unit and touch it and not be harmed? A. That is absolutely correct. As a matter of fact, pets are actually drawn to this heat because it is a natural source of heat, just like the sun heats the earth. Animals are much more instinctive than humans. This heat not only heats the air, but it also heats the objects in the room. It is a perfectly balanced heat. Q. How can a person cut their heating bill by up to 50% with the EdenPURE? A. First, the EdenPURE uses less energy to create heat than other sources, but that is just part of why
