[BlindHandyMan] question on my refrigerater

[Julio and Los pintores De La Cumbia]

hello I have a refrigerater and when I open it  at the bottom it has a glass 
and on that glass their is a plastic that is now sliding off how can I fix this 
is their a glue I can use? their is nothing broken  it just slides off 
sent from My t-mobile dash 3g.
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[BlindHandyMan] question for members on this list

[Blaine Deutscher]

Hello there. Whenever I join a list I try and find two types of people.
1. Lawyers
2. golfers
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I'm hoping to be a future lawyer and a golfer as well. Talk to you all 
later.

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

[Joe Plummer]

If he has a bumper to bumper warranty. It will be covered for example a
bumper to bumper warranty for 5 years or 100,00 miles or witch ever comes
first. But it has to be a bumper to bumper warranty.


Sign,
JP ( Joe Plummer)
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From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Bob Kennedy
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 7:48 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

  

An alternator is part of the electrical system, not the power train. You can
always check but I've never heard of one being covered for the same time as
the engine.
- Original Message - 
From: Lenny McHugh 
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

If that is the problem, I wonder if it would be covered under the power 
train warranty?
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Hodges" mailto:tomhodges%40fuse.net> >
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 1:03 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

By the way the garage that diagnosed the problem wanted $400 for them to
furnish and install the alternator themselves. I paid them $25 to diagnose
the problem and saved a total of $175 by purchasing it from Auto Zone and
installing it myself.

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
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On Behalf Of Tom Hodges
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 8:48 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

This exact thing happened to my wife just one month ago. We took it to the
garage and was told that the alternator was putting out inconsistent
voltage. The voltage would not run steady, which should be regulated by an
internal voltage regulator. We bought a new alternator for our 2001 Ford
Windstar van for about 200 dollars and I put it in myself in less than an
hour. Pproblem was fixed. .

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On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:24 PM
To: handyman-blind
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few seconds the gauges
on the car went nuts. The speed odometer went up to 80 and then back to 50,
the gas gauge dropped and the light went on. The temp went way up and then
back to normal. It is on a 2003 grand caravan. When all of the gauges went
nuts itonly lasted a few seconds. Wondering if this is because something in
ghe computer or electrical is starting to fail or if some rf got into the
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

[Bob Kennedy]

An alternator is part of the electrical system, not the power train.  You can 
always check but I've never heard of one being covered for the same time as the 
engine.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lenny McHugh 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 2:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys



  If that is the problem, I wonder if it would be covered under the power 
  train warranty?
  - Original Message - 
  From: "Tom Hodges" 
  To: 
  Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 1:03 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

  By the way the garage that diagnosed the problem wanted $400 for them to
  furnish and install the alternator themselves. I paid them $25 to diagnose
  the problem and saved a total of $175 by purchasing it from Auto Zone and
  installing it myself.

  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Tom Hodges
  Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 8:48 AM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

  This exact thing happened to my wife just one month ago. We took it to the
  garage and was told that the alternator was putting out inconsistent
  voltage. The voltage would not run steady, which should be regulated by an
  internal voltage regulator. We bought a new alternator for our 2001 Ford
  Windstar van for about 200 dollars and I put it in myself in less than an
  hour. Pproblem was fixed. .

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  On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
  Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:24 PM
  To: handyman-blind
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

  Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few seconds the gauges
  on the car went nuts. The speed odometer went up to 80 and then back to 50,
  the gas gauge dropped and the light went on. The temp went way up and then
  back to normal. It is on a 2003 grand caravan. When all of the gauges went
  nuts itonly lasted a few seconds. Wondering if this is because something in
  ghe computer or electrical is starting to fail or if some rf got into the
  system.
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

[Lenny McHugh]

She drives that route at least once a month. The next time I want her to 
look for the problem. It is quite possible that she never noticed it before. 
It lasted about 2 seconds.
- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Yearns" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys


Just wondered if this was a route she takes often.  My wife used to drive by
a AirForce radar base and quite often the electronic dash would go berserk
or out  I don't
 remember which so perhaps some r f can do strange things.  But I am with
others, wait until it happens at least two more times and make sure it isn't
at the same location.
Ron
- Original Message - 
From: "Lenny McHugh" 
To: "handyman-blind" 
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 10:23 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys


> Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few seconds the
> gauges
> on the car went nuts. The speed odometer went up to 80 and then back to
> 50,
> the gas gauge dropped and the light went on. The temp went way up and then
> back to normal. It is on a 2003 grand caravan. When all of the gauges went
> nuts itonly lasted a few seconds. Wondering if this is because something
> in
> ghe computer or electrical is starting to fail or if some rf got into the
> system.
> ---
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> Lenny
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

[Ron Yearns]

Just wondered if this was a route she takes often.  My wife used to drive by 
a AirForce radar base and quite often the electronic dash would go berserk 
or out  I don't
 remember which so perhaps some r f can do strange things.  But I am with 
others, wait until it happens at least two more times and make sure it isn't 
at the same location.
Ron
- Original Message - 
From: "Lenny McHugh" 
To: "handyman-blind" 
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 10:23 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys


> Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few seconds the 
> gauges
> on the car went nuts. The speed odometer went up to 80 and then back to 
> 50,
> the gas gauge dropped and the light went on. The temp went way up and then
> back to normal. It is on a 2003 grand caravan. When all of the gauges went
> nuts itonly lasted a few seconds. Wondering if this is because something 
> in
> ghe computer or electrical is starting to fail or if some rf got into the
> system.
> ---
> Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous
> with many resources for the blind.
> http://www.lennymchugh.com
> Lenny
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> addressing.
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>
>
>
> 
>
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>
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>
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

[Tom Hodges]

I don't know.  The guy at the garage told me though, that if I didn't fix
it, it could cause more damage, possibly to the computer system.

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 2:55 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

 

  

If that is the problem, I wonder if it would be covered under the power 
train warranty?
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From: "Tom Hodges" mailto:tomhodges%40fuse.net> >
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 1:03 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

By the way the garage that diagnosed the problem wanted $400 for them to
furnish and install the alternator themselves. I paid them $25 to diagnose
the problem and saved a total of $175 by purchasing it from Auto Zone and
installing it myself.

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
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On Behalf Of Tom Hodges
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 8:48 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

This exact thing happened to my wife just one month ago. We took it to the
garage and was told that the alternator was putting out inconsistent
voltage. The voltage would not run steady, which should be regulated by an
internal voltage regulator. We bought a new alternator for our 2001 Ford
Windstar van for about 200 dollars and I put it in myself in less than an
hour. Pproblem was fixed. .

-Original Message-
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<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
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On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:24 PM
To: handyman-blind
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few seconds the gauges
on the car went nuts. The speed odometer went up to 80 and then back to 50,
the gas gauge dropped and the light went on. The temp went way up and then
back to normal. It is on a 2003 grand caravan. When all of the gauges went
nuts itonly lasted a few seconds. Wondering if this is because something in
ghe computer or electrical is starting to fail or if some rf got into the
system.
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

[Lenny McHugh]

If that is the problem, I wonder if it would be covered under the power 
train warranty?
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Hodges" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 1:03 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys


By the way the garage that diagnosed the problem wanted $400 for them to
furnish and install the alternator themselves.  I paid them $25 to diagnose
the problem and saved a total of $175 by purchasing it from Auto Zone and
installing it myself.



From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Hodges
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 8:48 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys





This exact thing happened to my wife just one month ago. We took it to the
garage and was told that the alternator was putting out inconsistent
voltage. The voltage would not run steady, which should be regulated by an
internal voltage regulator. We bought a new alternator for our 2001 Ford
Windstar van for about 200 dollars and I put it in myself in less than an
hour. Pproblem was fixed. .

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On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:24 PM
To: handyman-blind
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few seconds the gauges
on the car went nuts. The speed odometer went up to 80 and then back to 50,
the gas gauge dropped and the light went on. The temp went way up and then
back to normal. It is on a 2003 grand caravan. When all of the gauges went
nuts itonly lasted a few seconds. Wondering if this is because something in
ghe computer or electrical is starting to fail or if some rf got into the
system.
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

[Tom Hodges]

By the way the garage that diagnosed the problem wanted $400 for them to
furnish and install the alternator themselves.  I paid them $25 to diagnose
the problem and saved a total of $175 by purchasing it from Auto Zone and
installing it myself.

 

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On Behalf Of Tom Hodges
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 8:48 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

 

  

This exact thing happened to my wife just one month ago. We took it to the
garage and was told that the alternator was putting out inconsistent
voltage. The voltage would not run steady, which should be regulated by an
internal voltage regulator. We bought a new alternator for our 2001 Ford
Windstar van for about 200 dollars and I put it in myself in less than an
hour. Pproblem was fixed. .

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On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:24 PM
To: handyman-blind
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few seconds the gauges 
on the car went nuts. The speed odometer went up to 80 and then back to 50, 
the gas gauge dropped and the light went on. The temp went way up and then 
back to normal. It is on a 2003 grand caravan. When all of the gauges went 
nuts itonly lasted a few seconds. Wondering if this is because something in 
ghe computer or electrical is starting to fail or if some rf got into the 
system.
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

[Lee A. Stone]

I would trust a blind man or woman on a computer before I would   let 
someone from Dodge touch it. Lee

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 07:48:14AM 
-0500, Alan & Terrie Robbins wrote:
> Bob,
> 
> This is an excellent point. My experience with auto, or
> computer repair is unless you can duplicate the problem or
> there are certain predictable things that happen before it
> occurs, more often than not the repair shop can't find out
> what's wrong.
> 
> Al
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Bob
> Kennedy
> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 7:30 AM
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
> 
> 
> I wouldn't worry yet.  Sometimes a drop of water hitting the
> computer can
> cause trouble like this.  I'd mark it up as a freak until it
> happens again.
> You'll pay a fortune to have someone look at the electrical
> system and then
> get a big CDP, can't duplicate problem  on the service
> order.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Lenny McHugh" 
> To: "handyman-blind" 
> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:23 PM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys
> 
> 
> > Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few
> seconds the
> > gauges
> > on the car went nuts. The speed odometer went up to 80 and
> then back to
> > 50,
> > the gas gauge dropped and the light went on. The temp went
> way up and then
> > back to normal. It is on a 2003 grand caravan. When all of
> the gauges went
> > nuts itonly lasted a few seconds. Wondering if this is
> because something
> > in
> > ghe computer or electrical is starting to fail or if some
> rf got into the
> > system.
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

[Tom Hodges]

This exact thing happened to my wife just one month ago.  We took it to the
garage and was told  that the alternator was putting out inconsistent
voltage.  The voltage would not run steady, which should be regulated by an
internal voltage regulator.  We bought a new alternator for our 2001 Ford
Windstar van for about 200 dollars and I put it in myself in less than an
hour.  Pproblem was fixed.  .

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:24 PM
To: handyman-blind
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few seconds the gauges 
on the car went nuts. The speed odometer went up to 80 and then back to 50, 
the gas gauge dropped and the light went on. The temp went way up and then 
back to normal. It is on a 2003 grand caravan. When all of the gauges went 
nuts itonly lasted a few seconds. Wondering if this is because something in 
ghe computer or electrical is starting to fail or if some rf got into the 
system.
---
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with many resources for the blind.
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Lenny
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

[Alan & Terrie Robbins]

Bob,

This is an excellent point. My experience with auto, or
computer repair is unless you can duplicate the problem or
there are certain predictable things that happen before it
occurs, more often than not the repair shop can't find out
what's wrong.

Al

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[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Bob
Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 7:30 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys


I wouldn't worry yet.  Sometimes a drop of water hitting the
computer can
cause trouble like this.  I'd mark it up as a freak until it
happens again.
You'll pay a fortune to have someone look at the electrical
system and then
get a big CDP, can't duplicate problem  on the service
order.
- Original Message -
From: "Lenny McHugh" 
To: "handyman-blind" 
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:23 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys


> Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few
seconds the
> gauges
> on the car went nuts. The speed odometer went up to 80 and
then back to
> 50,
> the gas gauge dropped and the light went on. The temp went
way up and then
> back to normal. It is on a 2003 grand caravan. When all of
the gauges went
> nuts itonly lasted a few seconds. Wondering if this is
because something
> in
> ghe computer or electrical is starting to fail or if some
rf got into the
> system.
> ---
> Please visit my home page; it is motivational,
inspirational and humorous
> with many resources for the blind.
> http://www.lennymchugh.com
> Lenny
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

[Bob Kennedy]

I wouldn't worry yet.  Sometimes a drop of water hitting the computer can 
cause trouble like this.  I'd mark it up as a freak until it happens again. 
You'll pay a fortune to have someone look at the electrical system and then 
get a big CDP, can't duplicate problem  on the service order.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lenny McHugh" 
To: "handyman-blind" 
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:23 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys


> Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few seconds the 
> gauges
> on the car went nuts. The speed odometer went up to 80 and then back to 
> 50,
> the gas gauge dropped and the light went on. The temp went way up and then
> back to normal. It is on a 2003 grand caravan. When all of the gauges went
> nuts itonly lasted a few seconds. Wondering if this is because something 
> in
> ghe computer or electrical is starting to fail or if some rf got into the
> system.
> ---
> Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous
> with many resources for the blind.
> http://www.lennymchugh.com
> Lenny
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

[Ray Boyce]

Hi Lenny
I would get the computer checked out, if a problem did happened the code
will show up on the computer indicating that particular part is a problem.
Or you can ask a question on line here
http://www.justanswer.com/car/dodge?r=ppc|ga|4|Cars|Dodge&JCRN=Dodge+Mechani
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On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Sunday, 10 January 2010 3:24 PM
To: handyman-blind
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few seconds the gauges 
on the car went nuts. The speed odometer went up to 80 and then back to 50, 
the gas gauge dropped and the light went on. The temp went way up and then 
back to normal. It is on a 2003 grand caravan. When all of the gauges went 
nuts itonly lasted a few seconds. Wondering if this is because something in 
ghe computer or electrical is starting to fail or if some rf got into the 
system.
---
Please visit my home page; it is motivational, inspirational and humorous 
with many resources for the blind.
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Lenny
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[BlindHandyMan] question for the car guys

[Lenny McHugh]

Earlier this evening my wife was driving home. For a few seconds the gauges 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler

[Tom Fowle]

I doubt a filler will hold screws,
If you have the space, how about drilling out the screw holes to maybe 3/8ths
inch and gluing dowels in them to take the new screw holes then filling in the
rest with plastic wood before sand and finishing. Drill for the dowels as deep 
as you dare to give yiu plenty of gripping surface.

Even if you replaced the wood with a new chunk and could ,match the color, 
you'd want to put in some pins between tghe new and old wood to gain strength

Tom

 

RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler

[Tom Hodges]

Very good info, thanks much.

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 12:54 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler

 

  

Just to let the list know what I found online.

We don't have this neer to home but this sounds like it would fill the bill.

EPOXYGATORR WOOD STICK
EPOXY PUTTY is a wood workers go to repair 
product. Tenacious bonding to wood. Can be
drilled, sawed, sanded, drilled and tapped. Repair fine furniture. 4 shades.
Sizes available: 2oz (Length 3.5 Inches) & 4oz. (Length 7 1/8 Inches)
Technical Specs: EpoxyGatorR Alumina Stick
Two component, ready to use simply by cutting 
amount desired, kneading by hand to
a uniform consistency and apply. Bonds 
tenaciously to wood. Wood Stick epoxy putty
has the same characterizes of wood and cab be 
used on the interior and exterior.
COLORS AVAILABLE: 4 COLORS AVAILABLE
Area must be clean and free of oils and 
dirt. For best results use a wire brush
to scratch the surface to ensure proper 
bonding. If any oil is present, please wash/wipe
it away using a solvent or cleaner.
Cut the desired amount using a knife. Mix by 
kneading to a uniform consistency.
All our epoxy putty sticks are two component and 
are conveniently colored. While
mixing make sure both colors have blended 
well. Cooler weather will make the epoxy
hard to mix. Simply heat up the epoxy stick 
until room temperature and use. After
mixing, immediately apply within 2 minutes to the 
area. During the curing phase,
material can be smoothed using slight damp 
fingers. Wash hands with soap and water
after use.
Pot Life: Approximately 15 minutes depending upon ambient temperature
Initial Cure: 15 minutes to harden
Full Cure: 60 minutes
http://epoxygator.com/

At 04:39 PM 1/5/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>In my admittedly limited experience you can't drill and put screws into
>filler. I once repaired the leg of a swivel chair. I mean the part where
>the caster shaft goes in. The wood had broken away around the hole. The
>previous owner had tried to glue the original pieces back and that lasted
>about 5 seconds. I bought it off him for 5 dollars. I completely cut
>away the damaged wood making straight smooth cuts. Then I got a block of
>the same kind of wood and glued it in place. Then I planed and sanded it
>down to be smooth and drilled a new hole for the caster shaft. I sold it
>several years ago for 25 dollars and as far as I know it is still holding
>together. I didn't take the final step of finishing the added piece to
>match but it could be done and with care it should be invisible. Your
>situation is very different than mine because your break is in a highly
>visible area and on something that must be made to look as good as new.
>
>Regards.
>
>Max. K 4 O D S.
>
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<mailto:max%40maxsmusicplace.com> 
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>- Original Message -
>From: "Kevin Doucet" 
><<mailto:contactme%40kevindoucet.com>contac...@kevindoucet.com
<mailto:contactme%40kevindoucet.com> >
>To: <<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> >
>Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 3:39 PM
>Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler
>
> >I think I may have asked the wrong question. This
> > article seems to be talking about wood filler to seal the wood pores.
> >
> > I need to fill in a place whare the wood is
> > broken away and dril a new scrue whole then color that new filled place.
> >
> >
> > At 03:30 PM 1/5/2010, you wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi
> >>
> >>Good article on fillers found here.
> >>
> >><<http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/filler 
>
s.shtml>http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml>http://www.woodc
entral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml
> >>
> >>From:
> >><mailto:blindhan

Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler

[Kevin Doucet]

Just to let the list know what I found online.

We don't have this neer to home but this sounds like it would fill the bill.

EPOXYGATOR® WOOD STICK
EPOXY PUTTY is a wood workers go to repair 
product.  Tenacious bonding to wood. Can be
drilled, sawed, sanded, drilled and tapped.  Repair fine furniture.  4 shades.
Sizes available: 2oz (Length 3.5 Inches) & 4oz. (Length 7 1/8 Inches)
Technical Specs: EpoxyGator® Alumina Stick
Two component, ready to use simply by cutting 
amount desired, kneading by hand to
a uniform consistency and apply.  Bonds 
tenaciously to wood.  Wood Stick epoxy putty
has the same characterizes of wood and cab be 
used on the interior and exterior.
COLORS AVAILABLE: 4 COLORS AVAILABLE
Area must be clean and free of oils and 
dirt.  For best results use a wire brush
to scratch the surface to ensure proper 
bonding.  If any oil is present, please wash/wipe
it away using a solvent or cleaner.
Cut the desired amount using a knife.  Mix by 
kneading to a uniform consistency.
All our epoxy putty sticks are two component and 
are conveniently colored.  While
mixing make sure both colors have blended 
well.  Cooler weather will make the epoxy
hard to mix.  Simply heat up the epoxy stick 
until room temperature and use.  After
mixing, immediately apply within 2 minutes to the 
area. During the curing phase,
material can be smoothed using slight damp 
fingers. Wash hands with soap and water
after use.
Pot Life: Approximately 15 minutes depending upon ambient temperature
Initial Cure: 15 minutes to harden
Full Cure: 60 minutes
http://epoxygator.com/

At 04:39 PM 1/5/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>In my admittedly limited experience you can't drill and put screws into
>filler. I once repaired the leg of a swivel chair. I mean the part where
>the caster shaft goes in. The wood had broken away around the hole. The
>previous owner had tried to glue the original pieces back and that lasted
>about 5 seconds. I bought it off him for 5 dollars. I completely cut
>away the damaged wood making straight smooth cuts. Then I got a block of
>the same kind of wood and glued it in place. Then I planed and sanded it
>down to be smooth and drilled a new hole for the caster shaft. I sold it
>several years ago for 25 dollars and as far as I know it is still holding
>together. I didn't take the final step of finishing the added piece to
>match but it could be done and with care it should be invisible. Your
>situation is very different than mine because your break is in a highly
>visible area and on something that must be made to look as good as new.
>
>Regards.
>
>Max. K 4 O D S.
>
>Email: <mailto:max%40maxsmusicplace.com>m...@maxsmusicplace.com
>
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><<mailto:contactme%40kevindoucet.com>contac...@kevindoucet.com>
>To: <<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 3:39 PM
>Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler
>
> >I think I may have asked the wrong question. This
> > article seems to be talking about wood filler to seal the wood pores.
> >
> > I need to fill in a place whare the wood is
> > broken away and dril a new scrue whole then color that new filled place.
> >
> >
> > At 03:30 PM 1/5/2010, you wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi
> >>
> >>Good article on fillers found here.
> >>
> >><<http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/filler 
> s.shtml>http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml>http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml
> >>
> >>From:
> >><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> o:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> >>[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
> >>On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet
> >>Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 8:18 AM
> >>To: 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> >>Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler
> >>
> >>Hi list,
> >>
> >>I have a part of a 

RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler

[Joe Plummer]

Yes you can drill and put screws in plastic wood. But in case of the chair
no it will not stand that kind of pressure. 


Sign,
JP ( Joe Plummer)
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On Behalf Of Max Robinson
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 5:40 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler

  

In my admittedly limited experience you can't drill and put screws into 
filler. I once repaired the leg of a swivel chair. I mean the part where 
the caster shaft goes in. The wood had broken away around the hole. The 
previous owner had tried to glue the original pieces back and that lasted 
about 5 seconds. I bought it off him for 5 dollars. I completely cut 
away the damaged wood making straight smooth cuts. Then I got a block of 
the same kind of wood and glued it in place. Then I planed and sanded it 
down to be smooth and drilled a new hole for the caster shaft. I sold it 
several years ago for 25 dollars and as far as I know it is still holding 
together. I didn't take the final step of finishing the added piece to 
match but it could be done and with care it should be invisible. Your 
situation is very different than mine because your break is in a highly 
visible area and on something that must be made to look as good as new.

Regards.

Max. K 4 O D S.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Doucet" mailto:contactme%40kevindoucet.com> >
To: mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
>
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler

>I think I may have asked the wrong question. This
> article seems to be talking about wood filler to seal the wood pores.
>
> I need to fill in a place whare the wood is
> broken away and dril a new scrue whole then color that new filled place.
>
>
> At 03:30 PM 1/5/2010, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>Hi
>>
>>Good article on fillers found here.
>>
>><http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml
<http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml>
>http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml
<http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml> 
>>
>>From:
>><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
>>[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]
>>On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet
>>Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 8:18 AM
>>To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
>>Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler
>>
>>Hi list,
>>
>>I have a part of a piano which has a place on the edge of the fall
>>board, "part of the piano which closes and covers the keys" that has
>>broken away. This is at a screw whole.
>>
>>I will need to build this place up with some sort of wood filler or
>>plastic wood or something then re drill a screw whole. Now this
>>filled in place will be visible when the "fall board" is raised.
>>
>>So my question, or two questions are;
>>
>>1. what do I need to fill in this place to be strong enough to drill
>>a pilot whole and put a screw in?
>>
>>2. Will touch up pencels work to cover the newly replaced surface,
>>allowing I can get the right color of touch up pencel or pencels? I
>>know touch up penceles work on real wood but what about on wood fillers?
>>I am about to run out. I have a ride coming, so, if you can respond
>>quickly I would appreciate it.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler

[Joe Plummer]

Hi, any good name plastic wood filler will work you can get from Lowe's or
Home Depot. You can sand and paint or varnish most all of these plastid wood
fillers.


Sign,
JP ( Joe Plummer)
joeplum...@tds.net


-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 4:40 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler

  

I think I may have asked the wrong question. This 
article seems to be talking about wood filler to seal the wood pores.

I need to fill in a place whare the wood is 
broken away and dril a new scrue whole then color that new filled place.

At 03:30 PM 1/5/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>Hi
>
>Good article on fillers found here.
>
><http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml
<http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml>
>http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml
<http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml> 
>
>From: 
><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>  
>[mailto:blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> ]
>On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet
>Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 8:18 AM
>To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> 
>Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler
>
>Hi list,
>
>I have a part of a piano which has a place on the edge of the fall
>board, "part of the piano which closes and covers the keys" that has
>broken away. This is at a screw whole.
>
>I will need to build this place up with some sort of wood filler or
>plastic wood or something then re drill a screw whole. Now this
>filled in place will be visible when the "fall board" is raised.
>
>So my question, or two questions are;
>
>1. what do I need to fill in this place to be strong enough to drill
>a pilot whole and put a screw in?
>
>2. Will touch up pencels work to cover the newly replaced surface,
>allowing I can get the right color of touch up pencel or pencels? I
>know touch up penceles work on real wood but what about on wood fillers?
>I am about to run out. I have a ride coming, so, if you can respond
>quickly I would appreciate it.
>
>Thanks.
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler

[Betsy Whitney]

Great and timely post! Thank you,
Betsy
At 11:30 AM 1/5/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>Hi
>
>Good article on fillers found here.
>
><http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml>http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml
>
>From: 
><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
>[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
>On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet
>Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 8:18 AM
>To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler
>
>Hi list,
>
>I have a part of a piano which has a place on the edge of the fall
>board, "part of the piano which closes and covers the keys" that has
>broken away. This is at a screw whole.
>
>I will need to build this place up with some sort of wood filler or
>plastic wood or something then re drill a screw whole. Now this
>filled in place will be visible when the "fall board" is raised.
>
>So my question, or two questions are;
>
>1. what do I need to fill in this place to be strong enough to drill
>a pilot whole and put a screw in?
>
>2. Will touch up pencels work to cover the newly replaced surface,
>allowing I can get the right color of touch up pencel or pencels? I
>know touch up penceles work on real wood but what about on wood fillers?
>I am about to run out. I have a ride coming, so, if you can respond
>quickly I would appreciate it.
>
>Thanks.
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler

[Max Robinson]

In my admittedly limited experience you can't drill and put screws into 
filler.  I once repaired the leg of a swivel chair.  I mean the part where 
the caster shaft goes in.  The wood had broken away around the hole.  The 
previous owner had tried to glue the original pieces back and that lasted 
about 5 seconds.  I bought it off  him for 5 dollars.I completely cut 
away the damaged wood making straight smooth cuts.  Then I got a block of 
the same kind of wood and glued it in place.  Then I planed and sanded it 
down to be smooth and drilled a new hole for the caster shaft.  I sold it 
several years ago for 25 dollars and as far as I know it is still holding 
together.  I didn't take the final step of finishing the added piece to 
match but it could be done and with care it should be invisible.  Your 
situation is very different than mine because your break is in a highly 
visible area and on something that must be made to look as good as new.

Regards.

Max.  K 4 O D S.

Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com

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- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Doucet" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler


>I think I may have asked the wrong question. This
> article seems to be talking about wood filler to seal the wood pores.
>
> I need to fill in a place whare the wood is
> broken away and dril a new scrue whole then color that new filled place.
>
>
> At 03:30 PM 1/5/2010, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>Hi
>>
>>Good article on fillers found here.
>>
>><http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml>http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml
>>
>>From:
>><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>>[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
>>On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet
>>Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 8:18 AM
>>To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler
>>
>>Hi list,
>>
>>I have a part of a piano which has a place on the edge of the fall
>>board, "part of the piano which closes and covers the keys" that has
>>broken away. This is at a screw whole.
>>
>>I will need to build this place up with some sort of wood filler or
>>plastic wood or something then re drill a screw whole. Now this
>>filled in place will be visible when the "fall board" is raised.
>>
>>So my question, or two questions are;
>>
>>1. what do I need to fill in this place to be strong enough to drill
>>a pilot whole and put a screw in?
>>
>>2. Will touch up pencels work to cover the newly replaced surface,
>>allowing I can get the right color of touch up pencel or pencels? I
>>know touch up penceles work on real wood but what about on wood fillers?
>>I am about to run out. I have a ride coming, so, if you can respond
>>quickly I would appreciate it.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler

[Kevin Doucet]

I think I may have asked the wrong question. This 
article seems to be talking about wood filler to seal the wood pores.

I need to fill in a place whare the wood is 
broken away and dril a new scrue whole then color that new filled place.


At 03:30 PM 1/5/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>Hi
>
>Good article on fillers found here.
>
><http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml>http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml
>
>From: 
><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
>[mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
>On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet
>Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 8:18 AM
>To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler
>
>Hi list,
>
>I have a part of a piano which has a place on the edge of the fall
>board, "part of the piano which closes and covers the keys" that has
>broken away. This is at a screw whole.
>
>I will need to build this place up with some sort of wood filler or
>plastic wood or something then re drill a screw whole. Now this
>filled in place will be visible when the "fall board" is raised.
>
>So my question, or two questions are;
>
>1. what do I need to fill in this place to be strong enough to drill
>a pilot whole and put a screw in?
>
>2. Will touch up pencels work to cover the newly replaced surface,
>allowing I can get the right color of touch up pencel or pencels? I
>know touch up penceles work on real wood but what about on wood fillers?
>I am about to run out. I have a ride coming, so, if you can respond
>quickly I would appreciate it.
>
>Thanks.
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


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RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler

[Ray Boyce]

Hi 

Good article on fillers found here.

http://www.woodcentral.com/bparticles/fillers.shtml

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Kevin Doucet
Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 8:18 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler

 

  

Hi list,

I have a part of a piano which has a place on the edge of the fall 
board, "part of the piano which closes and covers the keys" that has 
broken away. This is at a screw whole.

I will need to build this place up with some sort of wood filler or 
plastic wood or something then re drill a screw whole. Now this 
filled in place will be visible when the "fall board" is raised.

So my question, or two questions are;

1. what do I need to fill in this place to be strong enough to drill 
a pilot whole and put a screw in?

2. Will touch up pencels work to cover the newly replaced surface, 
allowing I can get the right color of touch up pencel or pencels? I 
know touch up penceles work on real wood but what about on wood fillers?
I am about to run out. I have a ride coming, so, if you can respond 
quickly I would appreciate it.

Thanks.





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[BlindHandyMan] question about wood filler

[Kevin Doucet]

Hi list,

I have a part of a piano which has a place on the edge of the fall 
board, "part of the piano which closes and covers the keys" that has 
broken away. This is at a screw whole.

I will need to build this place up with some sort of wood filler or 
plastic wood or something then re drill a screw whole. Now this 
filled in place will be visible when the "fall board" is raised.

So my question, or two questions are;

1. what do I need to fill in this place to be strong enough to drill 
a pilot whole and put a screw in?

2. Will touch up pencels work to cover the newly replaced surface, 
allowing I can get the right color of touch up pencel or pencels? I 
know touch up penceles work on real wood but what about on wood fillers?
I am about to run out. I have a ride coming, so, if you can respond 
quickly I would appreciate it.

Thanks.

Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers

[allen dunbar]

there must be something similar out there as I have on star in my 2003 gmc 
envoy and it came with a programmable home link in the car I had it 
programmed to my former home in Houston now here in this house in Dallas and 
soon the new house we will be moving to so there must be something out there 
we have a fold out keyboard that provides remote access from the outside of 
the garage on the new house I need to get a garage door guy come out to 
reprogram it


best of luck

Allen Dunbar
- Original Message - 
From: "Lee A. Stone" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers


>
> thanks Al. I  did not think of that before. one remote not  working
> with  a different companys product.  the one I had before was an old
> craftsman and the  original remotes were not   with the house when we
> bought it but there were two fixed   buttons inside the house and
> ajpartment.  again. thanks.Lee
>
> On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at
> 09:06:56AM
> -0400, Alan & Terrie Robbins wrote:
>> Lee,
>>
>> What I have found in the past is you need to buy an opener that can be
>> programmed to the type (brand) door you have. For instance, a couple of
>> years ago we installed a Liftmaster garage door opener. Prior to that we
>> had Craftsman. There was no way I could get the remotes that went with
>> Craftsman to properly program with the Liftmaster. We had to get 
>> additional
>> remotes from Liftmaster. Not sure about others but that was our 
>> experience .
>> There may be a company that makes an opener that accepts numerous
>> manufacturers similar to TV remotes.
>>
>> thanks
>> Al
>>   -Original Message-
>>   From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
>>   Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:09 AM
>>   To: Blind Handyman
>>   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   let me rephrase this. is there such a thing as a universal garage
>>   door opener door . and what would be any complications. Lee
>>
>>   On Wed, Jul
>>   08, 2009 at 07:57:09AM -0400, Lee A.
>>   Stone wrote:
>>   >
>>   >
>>   >
>>   > Is there such a thing as a remote garage door opener ? I am asking 
>> for
>>   > a FRiend who recently installed a new garage door lock by the way 
>> which
>>   > is all plastic but it works. Her antenna inside the garage seems
>>   > fine but neither the old garage door opener or the new one to include
>>   > the one in the car works. failure to comply is what I think. she has
>>   > programmed the remote to the specs. any ideas will be appreciated.
>>   > thanks. Lee
>>   >
>>   >
>>   > --
>>   > T-shirt of the Week:
>>   > I'm not excited, I'm cold!
>>   > .
>>
>>   --
>>   T-shirt of the Week:
>>   I'm not excited, I'm cold!
>>   .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
> -- 
> T-shirt of the Week:
> I'm not excited, I'm cold!
> .
> 

Re: [SPAM] Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers

[Cathy Harris]

Victor,

I would need a Universal type.  I am not sure of the make nor model.

The unit came with the townhouse, built about 12 years ago.

Thanks.
C
  - Original Message - 
  From: Victor 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:30 PM
  Subject: [SPAM] Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers





  Hi Cathy,

  I bought it as a full kit from Dodds Garage Doors here in Toronto.

  I'm not sure if they'll do U.S. orders or not, but I've got a connection 
  there, and so will find out for you.

  Can you send me the make and model garage door opener you have?

  If not, I'll see if they've got a universal one you can use or buy.

  Victor 



  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers

[Lee A. Stone]

Victor, di you know the brand name of your new remote? .is this a 
replacement remote or is it just a whole new setup? thanks. Lee

On Wed, 
Jul 08, 2009 at 05:13:22PM -0400, Victor wrote:
> I just got a new remote for my garage door, and the instructions said that I 
> had to press the learn button on the motor part of the opener, then, when 
> the green light flashed, I was to press the button to open the door, at 
> which point, the motor would pick up the signal of the remote, and use it to 
> open the garage door when ever the button was pressed.
> 
> Victor 
> 

-- 
T-shirt of the Week:
I'm not excited, I'm cold!
.

Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers

[Victor]

Hi Cathy,

I bought it as a full kit from Dodds Garage Doors here in Toronto.

I'm not sure if they'll do U.S. orders or not, but I've got a connection 
there, and so will find out for you.

Can you send me the make and model garage door opener you have?

If not, I'll see if they've got a universal one you can use or buy.

Victor 

Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers

[Cathy Harris]

Is it working for you, so far?

I need a garage door remote due to the fact, I lost the only one I have.  

Where did you purchase  your new remote?

C


  From: Victor 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 5:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers





  I just got a new remote for my garage door, and the instructions said that I 
  had to press the learn button on the motor part of the opener, then, when 
  the green light flashed, I was to press the button to open the door, at 
  which point, the motor would pick up the signal of the remote, and use it to 
  open the garage door when ever the button was pressed.

  Victor 



  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers

[Victor]

I just got a new remote for my garage door, and the instructions said that I 
had to press the learn button on the motor part of the opener, then, when 
the green light flashed, I was to press the button to open the door, at 
which point, the motor would pick up the signal of the remote, and use it to 
open the garage door when ever the button was pressed.

Victor 

RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers

[Michael baldwin]

Only the garages that have been programmed into the system.
Michael
 


  _  

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Rob Monitor
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:15 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers





OH BOY, now the thieves can still a Chrysler and brake in to all kinds of
garages..
- Original Message - 
From: Michael baldwin 
To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:15 PM
Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers

It is by U-connect, or something like that. i don't know if they do
portable ones, or if they just do in car ones for Chrysler.
But I think we have to have a working portable one to program it, so it
might not be exactly what your looking for.
Michael

_ 

From: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:10 PM
To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers

Michael. do you know of the brand that you have in the van? 
thanks.Lee

On 
Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 12:58:48PM -0500, Michael baldwin wrote:
> The one in our van can be programmed for any garage door opener. I can
> program up to 4 different ones, including the ones that change frequency
for
> security reasons.
> So, if this is available in a van, they might make a universal portable
one.
> Michael
> 
> 
> _ 
> 
> From: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:57 AM
> To: Blind Handyman
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Is there such a thing as a remote garage door opener ? I am asking for 
> a FRiend who recently installed a new garage door lock by the way which 
> is all plastic but it works. Her antenna inside the garage seems 
> fine but neither the old garage door opener or the new one to include 
> the one in the car works. failure to comply is what I think. she has 
> programmed the remote to the specs. any ideas will be appreciated. 
> thanks. Lee
> 
> -- 
> T-shirt of the Week:
> I'm not excited, I'm cold!
> .
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 

-- 
T-shirt of the Week:
I'm not excited, I'm cold!
.

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers

[Rob Monitor]

OH BOY, now the thieves can still a Chrysler and brake in to all kinds of 
garages..
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael baldwin 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:15 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers





  It is by U-connect, or something like that. i don't know if they do
  portable ones, or if they just do in car ones for Chrysler.
  But I think we have to have a working portable one to program it, so it
  might not be exactly what your looking for.
  Michael


  _ 

  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
  Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:10 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers

  Michael. do you know of the brand that you have in the van? 
  thanks.Lee

  On 
  Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 12:58:48PM -0500, Michael baldwin wrote:
  > The one in our van can be programmed for any garage door opener. I can
  > program up to 4 different ones, including the ones that change frequency
  for
  > security reasons.
  > So, if this is available in a van, they might make a universal portable
  one.
  > Michael
  > 
  > 
  > _ 
  > 
  > From: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
  yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@
  <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com]
  > On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
  > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:57 AM
  > To: Blind Handyman
  > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Is there such a thing as a remote garage door opener ? I am asking for 
  > a FRiend who recently installed a new garage door lock by the way which 
  > is all plastic but it works. Her antenna inside the garage seems 
  > fine but neither the old garage door opener or the new one to include 
  > the one in the car works. failure to comply is what I think. she has 
  > programmed the remote to the specs. any ideas will be appreciated. 
  > thanks. Lee
  > 
  > -- 
  > T-shirt of the Week:
  > I'm not excited, I'm cold!
  > .
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  > 

  -- 
  T-shirt of the Week:
  I'm not excited, I'm cold!
  .

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers

[Michael baldwin]

It is by U-connect, or something like that.  i don't know if they do
portable ones, or if they just do in car ones for Chrysler.
But I think we have to have a working portable one to program it, so it
might not be exactly what your looking for.
Michael
 


  _  

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:10 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers






Michael. do you know of the brand that you have in the van? 
thanks.Lee

On 
Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 12:58:48PM -0500, Michael baldwin wrote:
> The one in our van can be programmed for any garage door opener. I can
> program up to 4 different ones, including the ones that change frequency
for
> security reasons.
> So, if this is available in a van, they might make a universal portable
one.
> Michael
> 
> 
> _ 
> 
> From: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandyman@
<mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:57 AM
> To: Blind Handyman
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Is there such a thing as a remote garage door opener ? I am asking for 
> a FRiend who recently installed a new garage door lock by the way which 
> is all plastic but it works. Her antenna inside the garage seems 
> fine but neither the old garage door opener or the new one to include 
> the one in the car works. failure to comply is what I think. she has 
> programmed the remote to the specs. any ideas will be appreciated. 
> thanks. Lee
> 
> -- 
> T-shirt of the Week:
> I'm not excited, I'm cold!
> .
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 

-- 
T-shirt of the Week:
I'm not excited, I'm cold!
.





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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers

[Lee A. Stone]

Michael. do you know  of the brand that you have in the van? 
thanks.Lee


On 
Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 12:58:48PM -0500, Michael baldwin wrote:
> The one in our van can be programmed for any garage door opener. I can
> program up to 4 different ones, including the ones that change frequency for
> security reasons.
> So, if this is available in a van, they might make a universal portable one.
> Michael
> 
>  
>   _  
> 
> From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:57 AM
> To: Blind Handyman
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Is there such a thing as a remote garage door opener ? I am asking for 
> a FRiend who recently installed a new garage door lock by the way which 
> is all plastic but it works. Her antenna inside the garage seems 
> fine but neither the old garage door opener or the new one to include 
> the one in the car works. failure to comply is what I think. she has 
> programmed the remote to the specs. any ideas will be appreciated. 
> thanks. Lee
> 
> -- 
> T-shirt of the Week:
> I'm not excited, I'm cold!
> .
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 

-- 
T-shirt of the Week:
I'm not excited, I'm cold!
.

RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers

[Michael baldwin]

The one in our van can be programmed for any garage door opener. I can
program up to 4 different ones, including the ones that change frequency for
security reasons.
So, if this is available in a van, they might make a universal portable one.
Michael

 
  _  

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:57 AM
To: Blind Handyman
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers







Is there such a thing as a remote garage door opener ? I am asking for 
a FRiend who recently installed a new garage door lock by the way which 
is all plastic but it works. Her antenna inside the garage seems 
fine but neither the old garage door opener or the new one to include 
the one in the car works. failure to comply is what I think. she has 
programmed the remote to the specs. any ideas will be appreciated. 
thanks. Lee

-- 
T-shirt of the Week:
I'm not excited, I'm cold!
.





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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers

[Lee A. Stone]

No, I really don't know for sure about the programming  Dan  but I'll  
share   the information I get  with her to see and a good idea to maybe  
compare with a neighbor   about the use of a different remote.  
thanks.Lee

 On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 09:48:33AM -0400, Dan Rossi wrote:
> I don't believe there is a universal garage door opener, but I do know 
> that within brands, there can be several different settings.  You say that 
> she has it programmed correctly, how do you know that for sure?  Are you 
> sure the receiver is properly connected and set up?  If you can find 
> someone with the same brand of opener, you might be able to borrow their 
> transmitter as a test.
> 
> -- 
> Blue skies.
> Dan Rossi
> Carnegie Mellon University.
> E-Mail:   d...@andrew.cmu.edu
> Tel:  (412) 268-9081

-- 
T-shirt of the Week:
I'm not excited, I'm cold!
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers

[Dan Rossi]

I don't believe there is a universal garage door opener, but I do know 
that within brands, there can be several different settings.  You say that 
she has it programmed correctly, how do you know that for sure?  Are you 
sure the receiver is properly connected and set up?  If you can find 
someone with the same brand of opener, you might be able to borrow their 
transmitter as a test.

-- 
Blue skies.
Dan Rossi
Carnegie Mellon University.
E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu
Tel:(412) 268-9081

Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers

[Lee A. Stone]

thanks Al. I  did not think of that before. one remote not  working 
with  a different companys product.  the one I had before was an old 
craftsman and the  original remotes were not   with the house when we 
bought it but there were two fixed   buttons inside the house and 
ajpartment.  again. thanks.Lee

On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 
09:06:56AM 
-0400, Alan & Terrie Robbins wrote:
> Lee,
> 
> What I have found in the past is you need to buy an opener that can be
> programmed to the type (brand) door you have. For instance, a couple of
> years ago we installed a Liftmaster garage door opener. Prior to that we
> had Craftsman. There was no way I could get the remotes that went with
> Craftsman to properly program with the Liftmaster. We had to get additional
> remotes from Liftmaster. Not sure about others but that was our experience .
> There may be a company that makes an opener that accepts numerous
> manufacturers similar to TV remotes.
> 
> thanks
> Al
>   -Original Message-
>   From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Lee A. Stone
>   Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:09 AM
>   To: Blind Handyman
>   Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   let me rephrase this. is there such a thing as a universal garage
>   door opener door . and what would be any complications. Lee
> 
>   On Wed, Jul
>   08, 2009 at 07:57:09AM -0400, Lee A.
>   Stone wrote:
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Is there such a thing as a remote garage door opener ? I am asking for
>   > a FRiend who recently installed a new garage door lock by the way which
>   > is all plastic but it works. Her antenna inside the garage seems
>   > fine but neither the old garage door opener or the new one to include
>   > the one in the car works. failure to comply is what I think. she has
>   > programmed the remote to the specs. any ideas will be appreciated.
>   > thanks. Lee
>   >
>   >
>   > --
>   > T-shirt of the Week:
>   > I'm not excited, I'm cold!
>   > .
> 
>   --
>   T-shirt of the Week:
>   I'm not excited, I'm cold!
>   .
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 

-- 
T-shirt of the Week:
I'm not excited, I'm cold!
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers

[Alan & Terrie Robbins]

Lee,

What I have found in the past is you need to buy an opener that can be
programmed to the type (brand) door you have. For instance, a couple of
years ago we installed a Liftmaster garage door opener. Prior to that we
had Craftsman. There was no way I could get the remotes that went with
Craftsman to properly program with the Liftmaster. We had to get additional
remotes from Liftmaster. Not sure about others but that was our experience .
There may be a company that makes an opener that accepts numerous
manufacturers similar to TV remotes.

thanks
Al
  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
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  Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:09 AM
  To: Blind Handyman
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers






  let me rephrase this. is there such a thing as a universal garage
  door opener door . and what would be any complications. Lee

  On Wed, Jul
  08, 2009 at 07:57:09AM -0400, Lee A.
  Stone wrote:
  >
  >
  >
  > Is there such a thing as a remote garage door opener ? I am asking for
  > a FRiend who recently installed a new garage door lock by the way which
  > is all plastic but it works. Her antenna inside the garage seems
  > fine but neither the old garage door opener or the new one to include
  > the one in the car works. failure to comply is what I think. she has
  > programmed the remote to the specs. any ideas will be appreciated.
  > thanks. Lee
  >
  >
  > --
  > T-shirt of the Week:
  > I'm not excited, I'm cold!
  > .

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers

[Lee A. Stone]

let me rephrase this. is there such a thing as a universal  garage 
door opener  door .  and what would be any complications. Lee

On Wed, Jul 
08, 2009 at 07:57:09AM -0400, Lee A. 
Stone wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>  Is there such a thing as a remote garage door opener ? I am asking for 
> a FRiend who recently installed a new garage door lock by the way which 
> is all plastic  but it works.  Her  antenna  inside the garage seems 
> fine but neither the old garage door opener or the new one to include 
> the one in the car  works. failure to  comply  is what I think. she has 
> programmed the  remote to the specs. any ideas will be appreciated. 
> thanks. Lee
> 
> 
> -- 
> T-shirt of the Week:
>   I'm not excited, I'm cold!
> .

-- 
T-shirt of the Week:
I'm not excited, I'm cold!
.

[BlindHandyMan] question about remote garage door openers

[Lee A. Stone]

 Is there such a thing as a remote garage door opener ? I am asking for 
a FRiend who recently installed a new garage door lock by the way which 
is all plastic  but it works.  Her  antenna  inside the garage seems 
fine but neither the old garage door opener or the new one to include 
the one in the car  works. failure to  comply  is what I think. she has 
programmed the  remote to the specs. any ideas will be appreciated. 
thanks. Lee


-- 
T-shirt of the Week:
I'm not excited, I'm cold!
.

Re: [BlindHandyMan] question

[David Ferrin]

I agree that you might have better luck else where especially as this is not 
a software support list by nature.
David Ferrin
I tried thinking once but decided it was a bad idea.
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Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question


Shane, I do think that you would have a better chance with receiving some
help on the jaws users list.
Moderator


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Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question


I posted this question on blind tech but didn't get a response. So I'm
hoping someone here can help. Has anyone used the latest version of nero,
currently 9.4? If so, how accessible is it with the latest version of Jaws?
Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

Shane





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Shane, I do think that you would have a better chance with receiving some 
help on the jaws users list.
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Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 12:06 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question


I posted this question on blind tech but didn't get a response. So I'm
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Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

Shane





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[BlindHandyMan] question

[Shane Hecker]

I posted this question on blind tech but didn't get a response. So I'm 
hoping someone here can help. Has anyone used the latest version of nero, 
currently 9.4? If so, how accessible is it with the latest version of Jaws? 
Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

Shane 

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

[Spiro]

yeah, the stuff does get expensive.




On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Ron Yearns wrote:

> Temperature can be one consideration, but the main reason for using the 
> silver in a c work is its ability to withstand the greater pressures.  Its 
> cost would keep me from using it for everyday  electrical soldering which is 
> usually mechanically sound first and uses the solder for the best connection 
> and reduce any corrosion inside a joint if it is just wrapped.
> Ron
>  - Original Message -
>  From: Spiro
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 6:15 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
>
>
>
>
>
>  tell him to have kester make him up a 5% or 6% silver solder. Some folks
>  just want to believe.
>  My question is this: if a 40% or 50% silver solder is somewhere what they
>  use for refridgerant tubing, why *isn't it also for audio; is it the temp
>  required would fry many components?
>
>  I didn't have the terms right, but that was the idea.
>  They are great fuses, if you can stretch that far.
>  Best Regards and thanks.
>
>  On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Tom Fowle wrote:
>
>  > I do seem to recall that european fuses may be "blow' at rated current
>  > and U.S. are'flow through" at rated current.
>  >
>  > changing fuse ratings should make no difference to how
>  > the device operates, fuse resistance is minuscual compaired to the 
> impedance
>  > of the device.
>  >
>  > Reminds me of a guy who called us wanting to know what kind of solder
>  > to use on his vaccuum tube projects so as to get less joint
>  > resistance. Since tubes are high impedance devices, joint resistance is
>  > totally irrellivant, but he just wouldn't believe, or maybe
>  > one should say he "wanted to believe" against facts.
>  >
>  > Tom
>  >
>  >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

[Spiro]

actually there is a sonic difference in high end applications.
re: 2% and 4% silver/tin regularly used.

But the temp shock aspects I didn't know.

Disimilar metals can make it interesting.  Rhodium is a nasty plating to 
which to attempt soldering, a 
tin/silver/copper solder seems to work well.
thanks




On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Tom Fowle wrote:

> Silver solder melts at a much higher temp than tin/led and creates a much
> stronger bond mechanically.  It'll stand the temp shock of refrigeration
> much better than tin/led
>
> You wouldn't use silver for audio cause it's more expensive and
> there is no point, unless maybe in a very corosive environment.
>
> Also, some metals, Re: brass, don't take tin/led and need silver
> to alloy with.
> Tom
>
>

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

[Ron Yearns]

Temperature can be one consideration, but the main reason for using the silver 
in a c work is its ability to withstand the greater pressures.  Its cost would 
keep me from using it for everyday  electrical soldering which is usually 
mechanically sound first and uses the solder for the best connection and reduce 
any corrosion inside a joint if it is just wrapped.
Ron
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  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 6:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List





  tell him to have kester make him up a 5% or 6% silver solder. Some folks 
  just want to believe.
  My question is this: if a 40% or 50% silver solder is somewhere what they 
  use for refridgerant tubing, why *isn't it also for audio; is it the temp 
  required would fry many components?

  I didn't have the terms right, but that was the idea.
  They are great fuses, if you can stretch that far.
  Best Regards and thanks.

  On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Tom Fowle wrote:

  > I do seem to recall that european fuses may be "blow' at rated current
  > and U.S. are'flow through" at rated current.
  >
  > changing fuse ratings should make no difference to how
  > the device operates, fuse resistance is minuscual compaired to the impedance
  > of the device.
  >
  > Reminds me of a guy who called us wanting to know what kind of solder
  > to use on his vaccuum tube projects so as to get less joint
  > resistance. Since tubes are high impedance devices, joint resistance is
  > totally irrellivant, but he just wouldn't believe, or maybe
  > one should say he "wanted to believe" against facts.
  >
  > Tom
  >
  >


  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

[Tom Fowle]

Silver solder melts at a much higher temp than tin/led and creates a much 
stronger bond mechanically.  It'll stand the temp shock of refrigeration
much better than tin/led

You wouldn't use silver for audio cause it's more expensive and
there is no point, unless maybe in a very corosive environment.

Also, some metals, Re: brass, don't take tin/led and need silver
to alloy with.
Tom

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

[Spiro]

tell him to have kester make him up a 5% or 6% silver solder. Some folks 
just want to believe.
My question is this: if a 40% or 50% silver solder is somewhere what they 
use for refridgerant tubing, why *isn't it also for audio; is it the temp 
required would fry many components?

I didn't have the terms right, but that was the idea.
They are great fuses, if you can stretch that far.
Best Regards and thanks.





On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Tom Fowle wrote:

> I do seem to recall that european fuses may be "blow' at rated current
> and U.S. are'flow through" at rated current.
>
> changing fuse ratings should make no difference to how
> the device operates, fuse resistance is minuscual compaired to the impedance
> of the device.
>
> Reminds me of a guy who called us wanting to know what kind of solder
> to use on his vaccuum tube projects so as to get less joint
> resistance.  Since tubes are high impedance devices, joint resistance is
> totally irrellivant, but he just wouldn't believe, or maybe
> one should say he "wanted to believe" against facts.
>
> Tom
>
>

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

[Tom Fowle]

I do seem to recall that european fuses may be "blow' at rated current
and U.S. are'flow through" at rated current.

changing fuse ratings should make no difference to how
the device operates, fuse resistance is minuscual compaired to the impedance
of the device.

Reminds me of a guy who called us wanting to know what kind of solder
to use on his vaccuum tube projects so as to get less joint
resistance.  Since tubes are high impedance devices, joint resistance is 
totally irrellivant, but he just wouldn't believe, or maybe
one should say he "wanted to believe" against facts.

Tom

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

[Spiro]

your notes here are quite interesting Tom.
I had some replacement fuses for some audio gear. (10A 250w and 6A 250W) 
and they were blowing readily.
I asked the gent who sold them to me, what might be the reason as the amps 
were not doing harder work with any new speakers. he said that German 
fuses are "blow at" and our fuses were "travel through".
Saying what you are below, but indicating that not all are so defined.
i went back to the US and had him order the next size up in the German and 
I can change the without any noticable difference under heavy loads. No 
extra heat at the fins.





On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, Tom Fowle wrote:

> ray,
> We'll see what Ron thinks, but I'd not bother changing for just an ampere of
> difference.
>
> The rating of the fuse is the current it will pass in normal operation
> NOT, as some think, the current required to blow it.  You're only up by an amp
> even if the caravan pulls its full 15 amps, so no deal.
>
> tom
>
>

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3

[Tom Fowle]

Max,
I could also be wet, but I think he had a 220 volt pool pump with a 3 wire
cord.
Tom

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 06:53:59PM -0500, Max Robinson wrote:
> Maybe I'm miss remembering the question but I think he wanted to derive two 
> 120 volt circuits from the 4 conductor cable.  If I'm wrong, put it down to 
> old age.
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Max.  K 4 O D S.
> 
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tom Fowle" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 6:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 
> 3
> 
> 
> > Max
> > Yes, if so he'd not get 220, they'd be in phase.
> >
> > As someone else said the two 120s should lead back to the same
> > double breaker.
> > Tom
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 06:44:51PM -0500, Max Robinson wrote:
> >> Tom wrote.
> >>
> >> > They could be just 2 120s from two breakers
> >> > on the same side of the service.
> >>
> >> But would that make any difference for what he wants to do?
> >>
> >> Regards.
> >>
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> >>
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> >> - Original Message - 
> >> From: "Tom Fowle" 
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:08 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire 
> >> to
> >> 3
> >>
> >>
> >> > Problem might be that you don't know for sure that the 2 120 volt lines
> >> > are
> >> > actually from the two sides of the service.  There may be an easier 
> >> > way,
> >> > but
> >> > I think you'll need an A.C. voltmeter that goes at least to 250 volts
> >> > to chec between the two hots to see that they are
> >> > actually 240 volts apart.  They could be just 2 120s from two breakers
> >> > on the same side of the service.
> >> >
> >> > Tom
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3

[chiliblindman]

On a normal breaker panel, every other breaker is the same polarity and will 
give a zero voltage reading to each other.  In a three phase panel every third 
breaker is the same.  The reason for it is any one single breaker is 120 volt 
usually.  A double 220 volt breaker can be plugged in anywhere and have 220 
volt.  On a three phase panel a three phase breaker can be plugged in anywhere 
and you will have three phase power.  There are some that aren't, but they 
center in commercial applications.
..bob

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3

[Max Robinson]

Maybe I'm miss remembering the question but I think he wanted to derive two 
120 volt circuits from the 4 conductor cable.  If I'm wrong, put it down to 
old age.

Regards.

Max.  K 4 O D S.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Fowle" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 
3


> Max
> Yes, if so he'd not get 220, they'd be in phase.
>
> As someone else said the two 120s should lead back to the same
> double breaker.
> Tom
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 06:44:51PM -0500, Max Robinson wrote:
>> Tom wrote.
>>
>> > They could be just 2 120s from two breakers
>> > on the same side of the service.
>>
>> But would that make any difference for what he wants to do?
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Max.  K 4 O D S.
>>
>> Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com
>>
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>>
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>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Tom Fowle" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire 
>> to
>> 3
>>
>>
>> > Problem might be that you don't know for sure that the 2 120 volt lines
>> > are
>> > actually from the two sides of the service.  There may be an easier 
>> > way,
>> > but
>> > I think you'll need an A.C. voltmeter that goes at least to 250 volts
>> > to chec between the two hots to see that they are
>> > actually 240 volts apart.  They could be just 2 120s from two breakers
>> > on the same side of the service.
>> >
>> > Tom
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3

[Tom Fowle]

Max
Yes, if so he'd not get 220, they'd be in phase.

As someone else said the two 120s should lead back to the same
double breaker.
Tom

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 06:44:51PM -0500, Max Robinson wrote:
> Tom wrote.
> 
> > They could be just 2 120s from two breakers
> > on the same side of the service.
> 
> But would that make any difference for what he wants to do?
> 
> Regards.
> 
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> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 
> 3
> 
> 
> > Problem might be that you don't know for sure that the 2 120 volt lines 
> > are
> > actually from the two sides of the service.  There may be an easier way, 
> > but
> > I think you'll need an A.C. voltmeter that goes at least to 250 volts
> > to chec between the two hots to see that they are
> > actually 240 volts apart.  They could be just 2 120s from two breakers
> > on the same side of the service.
> >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3

[Max Robinson]

Tom wrote.

> They could be just 2 120s from two breakers
> on the same side of the service.

But would that make any difference for what he wants to do?

Regards.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Fowle" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 
3


> Problem might be that you don't know for sure that the 2 120 volt lines 
> are
> actually from the two sides of the service.  There may be an easier way, 
> but
> I think you'll need an A.C. voltmeter that goes at least to 250 volts
> to chec between the two hots to see that they are
> actually 240 volts apart.  They could be just 2 120s from two breakers
> on the same side of the service.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> 
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RE: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

[Ray Boyce]

Hi Tom

This is why this list is so good that you can ask any question and many
members who have the experience you do not, will give you the answer.

Many thanks to all who have taken the time to respond.

Regards 

Ray

 

From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:blindhandy...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Fowle
Sent: Tuesday, 28 April 2009 3:54 AM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
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ray,
We'll see what Ron thinks, but I'd not bother changing for just an ampere of
difference.

The rating of the fuse is the current it will pass in normal operation
NOT, as some think, the current required to blow it. You're only up by an
amp
even if the caravan pulls its full 15 amps, so no deal.

tom





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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3

[Tom Fowle]

Problem might be that you don't know for sure that the 2 120 volt lines are
actually from the two sides of the service.  There may be an easier way, but
I think you'll need an A.C. voltmeter that goes at least to 250 volts
to chec between the two hots to see that they are 
actually 240 volts apart.  They could be just 2 120s from two breakers
on the same side of the service.

Tom

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

[Tom Fowle]

ray,
We'll see what Ron thinks, but I'd not bother changing for just an ampere of
difference.

The rating of the fuse is the current it will pass in normal operation
NOT, as some think, the current required to blow it.  You're only up by an amp
even if the caravan pulls its full 15 amps, so no deal.

tom

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3

[Ron Yearns]

What Max told you earlier is basically true.  But do not assume anything.  
Check between the two hot wires to be sure you have 240 volts between them.  
They could have been hooked to the same phase for some unknown reason.  The one 
thing I learned many times over about electricity is check, check, check try it 
and then check again.  Just to make some things clear is  the white of the 
three wire cable on the tub grounded to metal or just running to one side of a 
pump motor and or controller?  If yes then the fourth wire, green or bare from 
the source will hook to any metal and or the metal water pipes in the tub.  The 
green, grounding wire shall never carry current, unless there is a fault.  The 
white carries the other side of 120 volt loads.

Ron.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Charles Reichardt 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 8:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3





  Hi all. I have a hot tub that runs on 240v 3 wire cable and I have two 120 
lines coming together in a 4 wire cable. How do I connect a 3 wire appliance to 
the 2 120 lines. I assume there are 2 hot wires, a ground and a nutral in the 4 
wire cable and 2 hot wires and a ground for the hot but.

  Plese help.

  Charlie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Don 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 8:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

  That is ezactly, what I thought of, a dodge Caravan, which we have one of. 
Talk later.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

  Don't feel bad, I used to work for Dodge and I thought he had a minivan...
  - Original Message - 
  From: Betsy Whitney 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

  Oh, duh. Thanks, Betsy
  At 11:34 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:

  >We, in North America are more likely to call it a camper trailer.
  >
  >- Original Message -
  >From: Betsy Whitney
  >To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  >Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:09 PM
  >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
  >
  >Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
  >Betsy
  >At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
  >
  > >Hi
  > >
  > >I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I 
asked
  > >my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
  > >
  > >The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan runs
  > >15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
  > >
  > >Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
  > >
  > >I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
  > >extension lead.
  > >
  > >Ron help me on this one.
  > >
  > >Ray
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

[Ron Yearns]

I don't see a problem with this.  Oh course in the U S we normally start at 15 
and then go to 20, 25, 30 etc unless someone is using the old fuse stats which 
are about extinct.  A little give and take works wonders in electricity.
Ron
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ray Boyce 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 3:29 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List





  Hi 

  I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I asked
  my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.

  The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan runs
  15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.

  Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.

  I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
  extension lead.

  Ron help me on this one.

  Ray 

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3

[chiliblindman]

Charlie, making that hook-up is bad news unless both the 120 volt lines are 
connected to a single double breaker.  Having two power lines to anything is 
bad news.  People get hunt that way or worse.
...bob

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

[Betsy Whitney]

Yep, that one I knew.

At 12:29 PM 4/26/2009, you wrote:


>Or a bunch of trailers all going the same place at same time.
>
>At 05:34 PM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
>
> >We, in North America are more likely to call it a camper trailer.
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: Betsy Whitney
> >To: 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:09 PM
> >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
> >
> >Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
> >Betsy
> >At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
> >
> > >Hi
> > >
> > >I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan 
> and I asked
> > >my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
> > >
> > >The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the 
> caravan runs
> > >15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
> > >
> > >Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
> > >
> > >I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
> > >extension lead.
> > >
> > >Ron help me on this one.
> > >
> > >Ray
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3

[Charles Reichardt]

thanks much. That's pretty much what I thought.

Charlie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Max Robinson 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 9:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3





  The 4 wire cable will have two hots, a neutral and a safety ground. The two 
  hots are on opposite sides of the line and there is 240 volts between them. 
  But between each hot and neutral there is 120 volts. So you connect each 
  120 volt outlet between its own hot and the common neutral. The ground must 
  be connected to the safety ground of the outlets. Never connect the neutral 
  of the outlet to the safety ground and never connect the ground and the 
  neutral together except at the electrical panel.

  Regards.

  Max. K 4 O D S.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: "Charles Reichardt" 
  To: 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 8:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 
  3

  > Hi all. I have a hot tub that runs on 240v 3 wire cable and I have two 120 
  > lines coming together in a 4 wire cable. How do I connect a 3 wire 
  > appliance to the 2 120 lines. I assume there are 2 hot wires, a ground and 
  > a nutral in the 4 wire cable and 2 hot wires and a ground for the hot but.
  >
  > Plese help.
  >
  > Charlie
  > - Original Message - 
  > From: Don
  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 8:10 PM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > That is ezactly, what I thought of, a dodge Caravan, which we have one 
  > of. Talk later.
  > - Original Message - 
  > From: Bob Kennedy
  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:05 PM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
  >
  > Don't feel bad, I used to work for Dodge and I thought he had a 
  > minivan...
  > - Original Message - 
  > From: Betsy Whitney
  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:19 PM
  > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
  >
  > Oh, duh. Thanks, Betsy
  > At 11:34 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
  >
  > >We, in North America are more likely to call it a camper trailer.
  > >
  > >- Original Message -
  > >From: Betsy Whitney
  > >To: 
  > <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  > >Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:09 PM
  > >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
  > >
  > >Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
  > >Betsy
  > >At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
  > >
  > > >Hi
  > > >
  > > >I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I 
  > asked
  > > >my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
  > > >
  > > >The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan 
  > runs
  > > >15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
  > > >
  > > >Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
  > > >
  > > >I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
  > > >extension lead.
  > > >
  > > >Ron help me on this one.
  > > >
  > > >Ray
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3

[Max Robinson]

The 4 wire cable will have two hots, a neutral and a safety ground.  The two 
hots are on opposite sides of the line and there is 240 volts between them. 
But between each hot and neutral there is 120 volts.  So you connect each 
120 volt outlet between its own hot and the common neutral.  The ground must 
be connected to the safety ground of the outlets.  Never connect the neutral 
of the outlet to the safety ground and never connect the ground and the 
neutral together except at the electrical panel.

Regards.

Max.  K 4 O D S.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Charles Reichardt" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 
3


> Hi all. I have a hot tub that runs on 240v 3 wire cable and I have two 120 
> lines coming together in a 4 wire cable. How do I connect a 3 wire 
> appliance to the 2 120 lines. I assume there are 2 hot wires, a ground and 
> a nutral in the 4 wire cable and 2 hot wires and a ground for the hot but.
>
> Plese help.
>
> Charlie
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Don
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 8:10 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
>
>
>
>
>
>  That is ezactly, what I thought of, a dodge Caravan, which we have one 
> of. Talk later.
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Bob Kennedy
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:05 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
>
>  Don't feel bad, I used to work for Dodge and I thought he had a 
> minivan...
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Betsy Whitney
>  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:19 PM
>  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
>
>  Oh, duh. Thanks, Betsy
>  At 11:34 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
>
>  >We, in North America are more likely to call it a camper trailer.
>  >
>  >- Original Message -
>  >From: Betsy Whitney
>  >To: 
> <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>  >Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:09 PM
>  >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
>  >
>  >Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
>  >Betsy
>  >At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
>  >
>  > >Hi
>  > >
>  > >I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I 
> asked
>  > >my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
>  > >
>  > >The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan 
> runs
>  > >15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
>  > >
>  > >Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
>  > >
>  > >I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
>  > >extension lead.
>  > >
>  > >Ron help me on this one.
>  > >
>  > >Ray
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

[Max Robinson]

After all the kidding here is another serious answer.  You've already had 
one and I agree with it, the difference is not enough to worry about.  Is 
this a charger for the batteries in the caravan?

Regards.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Ray Boyce" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 3:29 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List


> Hi
>
> I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I 
> asked
> my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
>
> The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan 
> runs
> 15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
>
> Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
>
> I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
> extension lead.
>
> Ron help me on this one.
>
> Ray
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List 4 wire to 3

[Charles Reichardt]

Hi all. I have a hot tub that runs on 240v 3 wire cable and I have two 120 
lines coming together in a 4 wire cable. How do I connect a 3 wire appliance to 
the 2 120 lines. I assume there are 2 hot wires, a ground and a nutral in the 4 
wire cable and 2 hot wires and a ground for the hot but.

Plese help.

Charlie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Don 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 8:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List





  That is ezactly, what I thought of, a dodge Caravan, which we have one of. 
Talk later.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

  Don't feel bad, I used to work for Dodge and I thought he had a minivan...
  - Original Message - 
  From: Betsy Whitney 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

  Oh, duh. Thanks, Betsy
  At 11:34 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:

  >We, in North America are more likely to call it a camper trailer.
  >
  >- Original Message -
  >From: Betsy Whitney
  >To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  >Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:09 PM
  >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
  >
  >Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
  >Betsy
  >At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
  >
  > >Hi
  > >
  > >I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I 
asked
  > >my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
  > >
  > >The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan runs
  > >15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
  > >
  > >Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
  > >
  > >I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
  > >extension lead.
  > >
  > >Ron help me on this one.
  > >
  > >Ray
  > >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

[Don]

That is ezactly, what I thought of, a dodge Caravan, which we have one of.  
Talk later.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Kennedy 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List





  Don't feel bad, I used to work for Dodge and I thought he had a minivan...
  - Original Message - 
  From: Betsy Whitney 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

  Oh, duh. Thanks, Betsy
  At 11:34 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:

  >We, in North America are more likely to call it a camper trailer.
  >
  >- Original Message -
  >From: Betsy Whitney
  >To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  >Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:09 PM
  >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
  >
  >Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
  >Betsy
  >At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
  >
  > >Hi
  > >
  > >I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I 
asked
  > >my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
  > >
  > >The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan runs
  > >15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
  > >
  > >Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
  > >
  > >I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
  > >extension lead.
  > >
  > >Ron help me on this one.
  > >
  > >Ray
  > >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

[Bob Kennedy]

Or maybe even camels.
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  From: Trouble 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List





  Or a bunch of trailers all going the same place at same time.

  At 05:34 PM 4/26/2009, you wrote:

  >We, in North America are more likely to call it a camper trailer.
  >
  >- Original Message -
  >From: Betsy Whitney
  >To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  >Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:09 PM
  >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
  >
  >Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
  >Betsy
  >At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
  >
  > >Hi
  > >
  > >I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I 
asked
  > >my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
  > >
  > >The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan runs
  > >15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
  > >
  > >Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
  > >
  > >I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
  > >extension lead.
  > >
  > >Ron help me on this one.
  > >
  > >Ray
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

[Bob Kennedy]

Don't feel bad, I used to work for Dodge and I thought he had a minivan...
  - Original Message - 
  From: Betsy Whitney 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List





  Oh, duh. Thanks, Betsy
  At 11:34 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:

  >We, in North America are more likely to call it a camper trailer.
  >
  >- Original Message -
  >From: Betsy Whitney
  >To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  >Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:09 PM
  >Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
  >
  >Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
  >Betsy
  >At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
  >
  > >Hi
  > >
  > >I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I 
asked
  > >my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
  > >
  > >The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan runs
  > >15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
  > >
  > >Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
  > >
  > >I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
  > >extension lead.
  > >
  > >Ron help me on this one.
  > >
  > >Ray
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

[Sean Paul]

Ray, the 16 amp fuse should work just fine.
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  From: Ray Boyce 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 16:29
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List





  Hi 

  I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I asked
  my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.

  The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan runs
  15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.

  Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.

  I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
  extension lead.

  Ron help me on this one.

  Ray 

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

[Trouble]

Or a bunch of trailers all going the same place at same time.

At 05:34 PM 4/26/2009, you wrote:


>We, in North America are more likely to call it a camper trailer.
>
>- Original Message -
>From: Betsy Whitney
>To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:09 PM
>Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
>
>Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
>Betsy
>At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
>
> >Hi
> >
> >I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I asked
> >my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
> >
> >The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan runs
> >15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
> >
> >Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
> >
> >I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
> >extension lead.
> >
> >Ron help me on this one.
> >
> >Ray
> >
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> >
> >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

[Betsy Whitney]

Oh, duh. Thanks, Betsy
At 11:34 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:


>We, in North America are more likely to call it a camper trailer.
>
>- Original Message -
>From: Betsy Whitney
>To: <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com>blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:09 PM
>Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List
>
>Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
>Betsy
>At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:
>
> >Hi
> >
> >I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I asked
> >my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
> >
> >The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan runs
> >15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
> >
> >Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
> >
> >I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
> >extension lead.
> >
> >Ron help me on this one.
> >
> >Ray
> >
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> >
> >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

[Dale Leavens]

We, in North America are more likely to call it a camper trailer. 


  - Original Message - 
  From: Betsy Whitney 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List





  Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
  Betsy
  At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:

  >Hi
  >
  >I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I asked
  >my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
  >
  >The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan runs
  >15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
  >
  >Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
  >
  >I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
  >extension lead.
  >
  >Ron help me on this one.
  >
  >Ray
  >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

[Betsy Whitney]

Okay, what is a caravan, some sort of electric vehicle?
Betsy
At 10:29 AM 4/26/2009, you wrote:


>Hi
>
>I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I asked
>my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.
>
>The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan runs
>15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.
>
>Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.
>
>I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
>extension lead.
>
>Ron help me on this one.
>
>Ray
>
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[BlindHandyMan] Question to Electricians on this List

[Ray Boyce]

Hi 

I have a fuse box in the shed where I am going to put my caravan and I asked
my son to tell me the Amperage of the fuses.

The one I am interested in is currently marked 16 Amps but the caravan runs
15 Amps should I changed the Fuse so it is 15 Amps.

Or is the 16 Amp fuse OK.

I will change the face of the power point so I can plug in a 15 Amp
extension lead.

Ron help me on this one.

Ray 



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question about Demagnetizing Cards?

[Spiro]

having just been through that, as I wrote to you privately; I'll do what I 
can to contribute any combination of the good advice I found here; 
(questioning for over 6 months) regarding the water problem. We din't pay 
a much as we expected.




On Tue, 10 Mar 2009, Victor wrote:

> Hi Claudia,
>
> In most cases, the magnetic strip will survive being washed and spun with
> your clothes, delicates included, so no worries there.
>
> In fact, those are the least of your problems, as I know how difficult it
> can be having water come into your home, and not being able to stop it until
> it's too late and the damage is done.
>
> Good luck, and hope you get that problem resolved quickly.
>
>
> Victor
> Co-moderator
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question about getting your basement repaired

[Claudia]

Betsy,

Yes, we did have a flood here, back in September!  We did apply for FEMA 
funding, but all we received was $487.
I don't mean to sound ungrateful, but that didn't even do anything for us, 
except get someone to come out and pull out all of the drywall and tile that 
was laid, over the cement floor!

TThis problem has not been fixed, as of yet, and again, I just don't know where 
the money would come from!

It's steadily raining here, and the water just keeps seeping in!

We're under flash flood warnings, until 2 PM. tomorrow afternoon!

Claudia

  - Original Message - 
  From: Betsy Whitney 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:10 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question about getting your basement repaired



  >Aloha Claudia,
  Is this problem caused by a flood or other disaster that might be 
  covered by your insurance? Seems to me I remember that you had some 
  problem that you were going to apply for FEMMA funding to fix. Is 
  this still the same problem or a new one? Is it a problem resulting 
  from some repairs that were not done completely or correctly?
  All the best,
  Betsy

  >On Tue,
  >Mar 10, 2009 at 02:27:24AM -0500, Claudia wrote:
  > > Hi,
  > >
  > > I have accidentally washed my jacket, and inside one of the 
  > pockets, was my
  > > debit card, as well as a time card and key card, used for work purposes.
  > > I'm assuming that the cards have been ruined, and I have to obtain
  > > replacements?
  > > They're currently in the dryer, and I'm about to go fish them out!
  > >
  > > This has been such a crap day, I'm sorry for the use of that 
  > word, but if it
  > > isn't one thing, it's another.
  > > We have water coming into our basement again, and I just don't 
  > know what to
  > > do anymore!
  > > We don't have the money to fix this problem!
  > >
  > >
  > > Claudia
  > >
  > > Join either of my groups; the first is for visually-impaired women, while
  > > the other is for people wishing to discuss homemaking issues.
  > > 
  > 
<mailto:our-safe-haven-subscribe%40googlegroups.com>our-safe-haven-subscr...@googlegroups.com
  > > 
  > 
<mailto:makinghouseworkeasier-subscribe%40googlegroups.com>makinghouseworkeasier-subscr...@googlegroups.com
  > >
  >
  >--
  >I place economy among the first and most important virtues, and public debt 
as
  >the greatest of dangers to be feared. To preserve our independence, we must
  >not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. If we run into such debts, we
  >must be taxed in our meat and drink, in our necessities and in our comforts,
  >in our labor and in our amusements. If we can prevent the government from
  >wasting the labor of the people, under the pretense of caring for them, they
  >will be happy.
  >-- Thomas Jefferson
  >Are you curious? Visit my web site: 
  ><http://www.sedac.mailsent.net>http://www.sedac.mailsent.net
  >

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question about getting your basement repaired

[Betsy Whitney]

>Aloha Claudia,
Is this problem caused by a flood or other disaster that might be 
covered by your insurance? Seems to me I remember that you had some 
problem that you were going to apply for FEMMA funding to fix. Is 
this still the same problem or a new one? Is it a problem resulting 
from some repairs that were not done completely or correctly?
All the best,
Betsy


>On Tue,
>Mar 10, 2009 at 02:27:24AM -0500, Claudia wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have accidentally washed my jacket, and inside one of the 
> pockets, was my
> > debit card, as well as a time card and key card, used for work purposes.
> > I'm assuming that the cards have been ruined, and I have to obtain
> > replacements?
> > They're currently in the dryer, and I'm about to go fish them out!
> >
> > This has been such a crap day, I'm sorry for the use of that 
> word, but if it
> > isn't one thing, it's another.
> > We have water coming into our basement again, and I just don't 
> know what to
> > do anymore!
> > We don't have the money to fix this problem!
> >
> >
> > Claudia
> >
> > Join either of my groups; the first is for visually-impaired women, while
> > the other is for people wishing to discuss homemaking issues.
> > 
> our-safe-haven-subscr...@googlegroups.com
> > 
> makinghouseworkeasier-subscr...@googlegroups.com
> >
>
>--
>I place economy among the first and most important virtues, and public debt as
>the greatest of dangers to be feared. To preserve our independence, we must
>not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. If we run into such debts, we
>must be taxed in our meat and drink, in our necessities and in our comforts,
>in our labor and in our amusements. If we can prevent the government from
>wasting the labor of the people, under the pretense of caring for them, they
>will be happy.
>-- Thomas Jefferson
>Are you curious? Visit my web site: 
>http://www.sedac.mailsent.net
>


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question about Demagnetizing Cards?

[Lee A. Stone]

I think you did a great job at remembering what you did Claudia . 
grins. I have washed a whle pocketbook. why because someone  was 
staying here and she was used to  hiding her pocketbook in the washer. 
Low and behold  she hears the washer running  , now headed for the 
second rinse when  she told me  her pocketbook was in there.. Now, think 
of this. this is our house and at the end of a wash, yes, I do check the 
machine for any leftover socks , nails or whateer. but prior to doing a 
wash why would I want to recheck the machine.. so that no longer  happy 
camper got all clean credit cards, license and what ever  a woman would 
carry in her pocketbook , oops, yes she also had a mini vise grip . well 
she was lucky as it was sunny so she could spread  alll her " stuff" out 
on the [pinic table. my words just simply say we are all human and we 
all make mistakes  whether you live in a house, a apartment or mobile 
home out in the boondocks. Have a better day. Lee

 On Tue, 
Mar 10, 2009 at 02:27:24AM -0500, Claudia wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have accidentally washed my jacket, and inside one of the pockets, was my 
> debit card, as well as a time card and key card, used for work purposes.
> I'm assuming that the cards have been ruined, and I have to obtain 
> replacements?
> They're currently in the dryer, and I'm about to go fish them out!
> 
> This has been such a crap day, I'm sorry for the use of that word, but if it 
> isn't one thing, it's another.
> We have water coming into our basement again, and I just don't know what to 
> do anymore!
> We don't have the money to fix this problem!
> 
> 
> Claudia
> 
> Join either of my groups; the first is for visually-impaired women, while 
> the other is for people wishing to discuss homemaking issues.
> our-safe-haven-subscr...@googlegroups.com
> makinghouseworkeasier-subscr...@googlegroups.com
> 

-- 
I place economy among the first and most important virtues, and public debt as
the greatest of dangers to be feared.  To preserve our independence, we must
not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt.  If we run into such debts, we
must be taxed in our meat and drink, in our necessities and in our comforts,
in our labor and in our amusements.  If we can prevent the government from
wasting the labor of the people, under the pretense of caring for them, they
will be happy.
-- Thomas Jefferson
Are you curious? Visit my web site: http://www.sedac.mailsent.net

Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question about Demagnetizing Cards?

[Bob Kennedy]

I doubt the cards are demagnetized from running in a dryer.  Even with static 
electricity they should be insulated inside a pocket.  

The bigger problem may be scratched from rubbing together.  Only way to know if 
they have a problem will be to use them again.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Claudia 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 3:27 AM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] Question about Demagnetizing Cards?


  Hi,

  I have accidentally washed my jacket, and inside one of the pockets, was my 
  debit card, as well as a time card and key card, used for work purposes.
  I'm assuming that the cards have been ruined, and I have to obtain 
  replacements?
  They're currently in the dryer, and I'm about to go fish them out!

  This has been such a crap day, I'm sorry for the use of that word, but if it 
  isn't one thing, it's another.
  We have water coming into our basement again, and I just don't know what to 
  do anymore!
  We don't have the money to fix this problem!

  Claudia

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question about Demagnetizing Cards?

[Victor]

Hi Claudia,

In most cases, the magnetic strip will survive being washed and spun with 
your clothes, delicates included, so no worries there.

In fact, those are the least of your problems, as I know how difficult it 
can be having water come into your home, and not being able to stop it until 
it's too late and the damage is done.

Good luck, and hope you get that problem resolved quickly.


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] Question about Demagnetizing Cards?

[Betsy Whitney]

Aloha Claudia,
I truly have impathy for you. I wish I had an answer about your basement.

As for your cards, they may be okay. We've had similar experiences 
here, and sometimes they survive the washing. Your keycard will 
probably fair the best.
Betsy
  At 09:27 PM 3/9/2009, you wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I have accidentally washed my jacket, and inside one of the pockets, was my
>debit card, as well as a time card and key card, used for work purposes.
>I'm assuming that the cards have been ruined, and I have to obtain
>replacements?
>They're currently in the dryer, and I'm about to go fish them out!
>
>This has been such a crap day, I'm sorry for the use of that word, but if it
>isn't one thing, it's another.
>We have water coming into our basement again, and I just don't know what to
>do anymore!
>We don't have the money to fix this problem!
>
>Claudia
>
>Join either of my groups; the first is for visually-impaired women, while
>the other is for people wishing to discuss homemaking issues.
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>
>


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[BlindHandyMan] Question about Demagnetizing Cards?

[Claudia]

Hi,

I have accidentally washed my jacket, and inside one of the pockets, was my 
debit card, as well as a time card and key card, used for work purposes.
I'm assuming that the cards have been ruined, and I have to obtain 
replacements?
They're currently in the dryer, and I'm about to go fish them out!

This has been such a crap day, I'm sorry for the use of that word, but if it 
isn't one thing, it's another.
We have water coming into our basement again, and I just don't know what to 
do anymore!
We don't have the money to fix this problem!


Claudia

Join either of my groups; the first is for visually-impaired women, while 
the other is for people wishing to discuss homemaking issues.
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers

[Scott Howell]

Thanks Tom,.
On Mar 3, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Tom Fowle wrote:

> Scott,
> I'm told radio shlock makes cables of the type you may want, They  
> might be
> called isolator cables or ground loop prventers or the like.
>
> I'll have a colleague look when I have time.
>
> tom
>
> 



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers

[Tom Fowle]

Scott,
I'm told radio shlock makes cables of the type you may want, They might be
called isolator cables or ground loop prventers or the like.

I'll have a colleague look when I have time.

tom

Re: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers

[Scott Howell]

hey Tom, thanks and depending upon the soldering, I might be up for  
the task. I do pretty well with soldering cables together. NEver could  
quite get the hang of soldering wire to those small pins you find on  
boards and such.
You might just have a point and I'll have to try a few things I guess,  
but the transformer sounds interesting.
On Mar 3, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Tom Fowle wrote:

> Hi Scott,
> Max's idea of using ballanced inputs may work if your mixer has  
> them, but I
> doubt that it does, that's usually limited to commercial audio gear.
>
> What you probably need to do is "break" the ground to one or other  
> of the
> computers, probably the laptop. Now, of course, just breaking
> the ground won't work because you'd loose signal. What you need is  
> transformer
> isolation. There are setups intended to connect audiofrom ham radios
> to computers that perform this trick, but they aren't cheap and may  
> require
> a deal of fiddling around to adapt to your setup.
>
> I wonder if somebody makes a transformer isolated stereo cable? I'll  
> look
> around and see if i find anything. I'm pretty sure radio shlock
> makes small audio transformers having a 1 to 1 turns ratio which is
> what you need, but I assume you're not into doing much soldering up of
> cables your self.
>
> With all the similar hookups people are doing these days an isolated  
> cable should
> be a product whose time has come.
>
> As for understanding ground loops, read what max's site
> has to say, and know that you need a degree in magnetics and that may
> not even help. Basically when you have lots of stuff with common  
> "grounds"
> which of course have nothing at all to do with real "earth" ground,  
> runnig
> through lots of wires, noise energy couples between and amongst them  
> and
> things end up at different potentials in relationship to
> each other thus generating unexpected current flow where you don't  
> want it---
> hum.
>
> Everybody nuts yet?
> If not, why not, i tried! 
> Tom
>
> 



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers

[Tom Fowle]

Hi Scott,
Max's idea of using ballanced inputs may work if your mixer has them, but I
doubt that it does, that's usually limited to commercial audio gear.

What you probably need to do is "break" the ground to one or other of the
computers, probably the laptop.  Now, of course, just breaking
the ground won't work because you'd loose signal.  What you need is transformer
isolation.  There are setups intended to connect audiofrom ham radios
to computers that perform this trick, but they aren't cheap and may require
a deal of fiddling around to adapt to your setup.

I wonder if somebody makes a transformer isolated stereo cable? I'll look 
around and see if i find anything.  I'm pretty sure radio shlock
makes small audio transformers having a 1 to 1 turns ratio which is
what you need, but I assume you're not into doing much soldering up of
cables your self.

With all the similar hookups people are doing these days an isolated cable 
should
be a product whose time has come.

As for understanding ground loops, read what max's site
has to say, and know that you need a degree in magnetics and that may
not even help.  Basically when you have lots of stuff with common "grounds"
which of course have nothing at all to do with real "earth" ground, runnig
through lots of wires, noise energy couples between and amongst them and 
things end up at different potentials in relationship to
each other thus generating unexpected current flow where you don't want it---
hum.

Everybody nuts yet?
If not, why not, i tried! 
Tom

Re: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers

[Scott Howell]

Thank you Max, this all does sound sort of familiar. Gee it has been a  
while.

On Mar 3, 2009, at 2:11 PM, Max Robinson wrote:

> A balanced input is accomplished using quarter inch jacks by using a  
> plug
> and jack like the type used on stereo headphones. They are commonly
> referred to as T R S which stands for tip, ring, and shield. Such  
> plugs use
> two conductor shielded cable. The shield is connected at only one  
> end. To
> connect a single ended output tip and shield only, to a balanced  
> input, at
> the single ended end connect the green inner conductor to the shield  
> and the
> red to the tip. At the other end connect the shield of the cable to  
> the
> shield of the plug, the green wire to the ring and the red wire to  
> the tip.
> Take a look at the following web page.
>
> http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/Eliminating_Ground_Loops.html
>
> All of the diagrams have verbal descriptions.
>
> Regards.
>
> Max. K 4 O D S.
>
> Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com
>
> Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net
> Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net
> Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com
>
> To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to,
> funwithtubes-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Howell" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers
>
> > Hey Max I don't live near a transmitter of any sort, but a ground  
> loop
> > would make sense. What this board has is quarter-inch inputs and one
> > per channel. So, I use two inputs for stero output. I assume these  
> are
> > balanced inputs, but I am a little embarrassed to say I don't know
> > exactly the difference between the two types. I used ot know this
> > stuff, but I have forgotten it oer the years. I'm not sure how I  
> could
> > address the ground loop issue, but I have a few ideas and maybe
> > disconnecting the laptop from ac power might yield some results, or
> > just pulling the audio cable out of the mixer for the laptop and see
> > what happens.
> >
> > tnx,
> >
> > On Mar 2, 2009, at 9:18 PM, Max Robinson wrote:
> >
> >> You may have a ground loop. They are very difficult to break  
> without
> >> loosing a ground on something. If your mixer has balanced inputs it
> >> might
> >> be easier. I have a 12 x 4 channel mixer, an 8 track digital  
> recorder,
> >> sound module, signal processor, and monitor amplifier, all hooked
> >> together
> >> and to my computer. Only one computer though. It took a lot of  
> making
> >> special patch cords to get all the hum and other interference out  
> of
> >> the
> >> system. Do you live near a TV transmitter? I do and that was a  
> problem
> >> too.
> >>
> >> Regards.
> >>
> >> Max. K 4 O D S.
> >>
> >> Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com
> >>
> >> Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net
> >> Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net
> >> Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com
> >>
> >> To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to,
> >> funwithtubes-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Scott Howell" 
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:44 PM
> >> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers
> >>
> >> > Hey folks, I have a rather interesting problem that I hope is
> >> > acceptable for the list. Let me explain my setup and then I'll
> >> explain
> >> > the problem.
> >> >
> >> > I have a small mixer that has three or so inputs. I have my
> >> employer's
> >> > Dell laptop, my Macintosh, and a cable into which I plug my  
> electric
> >> > bass. All this is served by one pair of headphones. Now in  
> order to
> >> > save on space and so forth, I have a usb KVM switch. servicing  
> both
> >> > computers. THis KVM only handles a keyboard and mouse, but you  
> could
> >> > connect video, which I do not. So, when I have the Mac and PC  
> laptop
> >> > connected and running, everything is fine. If I shut the laptop  
> lid/
> >> > put it to sleep, but leave it connected, I get this humming noise
> >> that
> >> > is not 60Mhz, but probably almost twice th

Re: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers

[Max Robinson]

A balanced input is accomplished using quarter inch  jacks by using a plug 
and jack like the type used on stereo headphones.  They are commonly 
referred to as T R S which stands for tip, ring, and shield.  Such plugs use 
two conductor shielded cable.  The shield is connected at only one end.  To 
connect a single ended output tip and shield only, to a balanced input, at 
the single ended end connect the green inner conductor to the shield and the 
red to the tip.  At the other end connect the shield of the cable to the 
shield of the plug, the green wire to the ring and the red wire to the tip. 
Take a look at the following web page.

http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/Eliminating_Ground_Loops.html

All of the diagrams have verbal descriptions.

Regards.

Max.  K 4 O D S.

Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com

Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net
Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net
Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com

To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to,
funwithtubes-subscr...@yahoogroups.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Howell" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:29 AM
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers


> Hey Max I don't live near a transmitter of any sort, but a ground loop
> would make sense. What this board has is quarter-inch inputs and one
> per channel. So, I use two inputs for stero output. I assume these are
> balanced inputs, but I am a little embarrassed to say I don't know
> exactly the difference between the two types. I used ot know this
> stuff, but I have forgotten it oer the years. I'm not sure how I could
> address the ground loop issue, but I have a few ideas and maybe
> disconnecting the laptop from ac power might yield some results, or
> just pulling the audio cable out of the mixer for the laptop and see
> what happens.
>
> tnx,
>
> On Mar 2, 2009, at 9:18 PM, Max Robinson wrote:
>
>> You may have a ground loop. They are very difficult to break without
>> loosing a ground on something. If your mixer has balanced inputs it
>> might
>> be easier. I have a 12 x 4 channel mixer, an 8 track digital recorder,
>> sound module, signal processor, and monitor amplifier, all hooked
>> together
>> and to my computer. Only one computer though. It took a lot of making
>> special patch cords to get all the hum and other interference out of
>> the
>> system. Do you live near a TV transmitter? I do and that was a problem
>> too.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Max. K 4 O D S.
>>
>> Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com
>>
>> Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net
>> Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net
>> Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com
>>
>> To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to,
>> funwithtubes-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Scott Howell" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:44 PM
>> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers
>>
>> > Hey folks, I have a rather interesting problem that I hope is
>> > acceptable for the list. Let me explain my setup and then I'll
>> explain
>> > the problem.
>> >
>> > I have a small mixer that has three or so inputs. I have my
>> employer's
>> > Dell laptop, my Macintosh, and a cable into which I plug my electric
>> > bass. All this is served by one pair of headphones. Now in order to
>> > save on space and so forth, I have a usb KVM switch. servicing both
>> > computers. THis KVM only handles a keyboard and mouse, but you could
>> > connect video, which I do not. So, when I have the Mac and PC laptop
>> > connected and running, everything is fine. If I shut the laptop lid/
>> > put it to sleep, but leave it connected, I get this humming noise
>> that
>> > is not 60Mhz, but probably almost twice that. I can disconnect the
>> > laptop and then soud goes away or if I adjust the mixer controls
>> just
>> > so, I can cancel out the sound. For some reason it sometimes gets
>> > messed up and that usually is because I have made a slight
>> adjustment
>> > to something and then I have to start all over again isulating the
>> > sound by tweaking things. So, has anyone have any thoughts on how I
>> > might correct this problem, so I do not have to keeep messing with
>> the
>> > controls? It could be the mixer, but I suspect there is an issue
>> with
>> > both machines being connected to the KVM and this is a pretty cheap
>> > KVM. The KVM is not

Re: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers

[chiliblindman]

Since the usb also supplies power to accessories, it could just be reading that 
because of a lack of other signal.
..bob

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers

[Scott Howell]

Thanks, unfortunately this one is. The good thing is I have found a  
way to cancel out the noise for the most part, but at the same time it  
would be nice to really figure out what is going on. I'm wondering if  
there is possibly an issue with the cable not being insulated enough.  
These patch cable are just rca cables that terminate in a 1/8-inch  
plug. Of course the mixer is not a very expensive or of the highest  
quality I'm sure either.

tnx
On Mar 3, 2009, at 7:33 AM, Gerry Leary wrote:

> Try turning the power plug of the laptop over in the socket if it is  
> not polarized. Sometimes this can help.
> - Original Message -
> From: Scott Howell
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 3:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers
>
> I could do that, but the only reason I put the machine to sleep is
> after hours and I still need it ready in the event somethng comes up.
> Yes, I could probably do that or even just disconnect it, but I am
> trying more to udnerstand the problem really.
>
> tnx,
> On Mar 2, 2009, at 6:19 PM, Mike Rusk wrote:
>
> > What if you turn off the computer instead of putting it to sleep?
> > Maybe it is still trying to access something even though it is
> > sleeping, just a thought.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Scott Howell
> > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:44 PM
> > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers
> >
> > Hey folks, I have a rather interesting problem that I hope is
> > acceptable for the list. Let me explain my setup and then I'll  
> explain
> > the problem.
> >
> > I have a small mixer that has three or so inputs. I have my  
> employer's
> > Dell laptop, my Macintosh, and a cable into which I plug my electric
> > bass. All this is served by one pair of headphones. Now in order to
> > save on space and so forth, I have a usb KVM switch. servicing both
> > computers. THis KVM only handles a keyboard and mouse, but you could
> > connect video, which I do not. So, when I have the Mac and PC laptop
> > connected and running, everything is fine. If I shut the laptop lid/
> > put it to sleep, but leave it connected, I get this humming noise  
> that
> > is not 60Mhz, but probably almost twice that. I can disconnect the
> > laptop and then soud goes away or if I adjust the mixer controls  
> just
> > so, I can cancel out the sound. For some reason it sometimes gets
> > messed up and that usually is because I have made a slight  
> adjustment
> > to something and then I have to start all over again isulating the
> > sound by tweaking things. So, has anyone have any thoughts on how I
> > might correct this problem, so I do not have to keeep messing with  
> the
> > controls? It could be the mixer, but I suspect there is an issue  
> with
> > both machines being connected to the KVM and this is a pretty cheap
> > KVM. The KVM is not near the computers, it is under my desk.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers

[Gerry Leary]

Try turning the power plug of the laptop over in the socket if it is not 
polarized.  Sometimes this can help.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Scott Howell 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 3:23 AM
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers


  I could do that, but the only reason I put the machine to sleep is 
  after hours and I still need it ready in the event somethng comes up. 
  Yes, I could probably do that or even just disconnect it, but I am 
  trying more to udnerstand the problem really.

  tnx,
  On Mar 2, 2009, at 6:19 PM, Mike Rusk wrote:

  > What if you turn off the computer instead of putting it to sleep? 
  > Maybe it is still trying to access something even though it is 
  > sleeping, just a thought.
  >
  > - Original Message -
  > From: Scott Howell
  > To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:44 PM
  > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers
  >
  > Hey folks, I have a rather interesting problem that I hope is
  > acceptable for the list. Let me explain my setup and then I'll explain
  > the problem.
  >
  > I have a small mixer that has three or so inputs. I have my employer's
  > Dell laptop, my Macintosh, and a cable into which I plug my electric
  > bass. All this is served by one pair of headphones. Now in order to
  > save on space and so forth, I have a usb KVM switch. servicing both
  > computers. THis KVM only handles a keyboard and mouse, but you could
  > connect video, which I do not. So, when I have the Mac and PC laptop
  > connected and running, everything is fine. If I shut the laptop lid/
  > put it to sleep, but leave it connected, I get this humming noise that
  > is not 60Mhz, but probably almost twice that. I can disconnect the
  > laptop and then soud goes away or if I adjust the mixer controls just
  > so, I can cancel out the sound. For some reason it sometimes gets
  > messed up and that usually is because I have made a slight adjustment
  > to something and then I have to start all over again isulating the
  > sound by tweaking things. So, has anyone have any thoughts on how I
  > might correct this problem, so I do not have to keeep messing with the
  > controls? It could be the mixer, but I suspect there is an issue with
  > both machines being connected to the KVM and this is a pretty cheap
  > KVM. The KVM is not near the computers, it is under my desk.
  >
  > Thanks,
  >
  > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
  >
  > 

  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


  

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers

[Scott Howell]

Hey Max I don't live near a transmitter of any sort, but a ground loop  
would make sense. What this board has is quarter-inch inputs and one  
per channel. So, I use two inputs for stero output. I assume these are  
balanced inputs, but I am a little embarrassed to say I don't know  
exactly the difference between the two types. I used ot know this  
stuff, but I have forgotten it oer the years. I'm not sure how I could  
address the ground loop issue, but I have a few ideas and maybe  
disconnecting the laptop from ac power might yield some results, or  
just pulling the audio cable out of the mixer for the laptop and see  
what happens.

tnx,

On Mar 2, 2009, at 9:18 PM, Max Robinson wrote:

> You may have a ground loop. They are very difficult to break without
> loosing a ground on something. If your mixer has balanced inputs it  
> might
> be easier. I have a 12 x 4 channel mixer, an 8 track digital recorder,
> sound module, signal processor, and monitor amplifier, all hooked  
> together
> and to my computer. Only one computer though. It took a lot of making
> special patch cords to get all the hum and other interference out of  
> the
> system. Do you live near a TV transmitter? I do and that was a problem
> too.
>
> Regards.
>
> Max. K 4 O D S.
>
> Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com
>
> Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net
> Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net
> Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com
>
> To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to,
> funwithtubes-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Howell" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:44 PM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers
>
> > Hey folks, I have a rather interesting problem that I hope is
> > acceptable for the list. Let me explain my setup and then I'll  
> explain
> > the problem.
> >
> > I have a small mixer that has three or so inputs. I have my  
> employer's
> > Dell laptop, my Macintosh, and a cable into which I plug my electric
> > bass. All this is served by one pair of headphones. Now in order to
> > save on space and so forth, I have a usb KVM switch. servicing both
> > computers. THis KVM only handles a keyboard and mouse, but you could
> > connect video, which I do not. So, when I have the Mac and PC laptop
> > connected and running, everything is fine. If I shut the laptop lid/
> > put it to sleep, but leave it connected, I get this humming noise  
> that
> > is not 60Mhz, but probably almost twice that. I can disconnect the
> > laptop and then soud goes away or if I adjust the mixer controls  
> just
> > so, I can cancel out the sound. For some reason it sometimes gets
> > messed up and that usually is because I have made a slight  
> adjustment
> > to something and then I have to start all over again isulating the
> > sound by tweaking things. So, has anyone have any thoughts on how I
> > might correct this problem, so I do not have to keeep messing with  
> the
> > controls? It could be the mixer, but I suspect there is an issue  
> with
> > both machines being connected to the KVM and this is a pretty cheap
> > KVM. The KVM is not near the computers, it is under my desk.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
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> > ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/
> >
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers

[Scott Howell]

It is both computers causing the noise and it could be they are  
creating some sort of loop. I dont' know the technical term, but  
removing either does eliminate the noise. Like I said, just tweaking  
the mixer will generally remove or put the sound way in the  
background. So, it is not a really big deal, but I would like to  
understand what the cause is.

On Mar 2, 2009, at 7:46 PM, Trouble wrote:

> The kvn shouldn't have a problem with that setup. however, if you
> think it is, unplug it and see if hum goes away. That will tell for
> sure if the laptop is doing it or the kvn.
>
> At 05:44 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote:
>
> >Hey folks, I have a rather interesting problem that I hope is
> >acceptable for the list. Let me explain my setup and then I'll  
> explain
> >the problem.
> >
> >I have a small mixer that has three or so inputs. I have my  
> employer's
> >Dell laptop, my Macintosh, and a cable into which I plug my electric
> >bass. All this is served by one pair of headphones. Now in order to
> >save on space and so forth, I have a usb KVM switch. servicing both
> >computers. THis KVM only handles a keyboard and mouse, but you could
> >connect video, which I do not. So, when I have the Mac and PC laptop
> >connected and running, everything is fine. If I shut the laptop lid/
> >put it to sleep, but leave it connected, I get this humming noise  
> that
> >is not 60Mhz, but probably almost twice that. I can disconnect the
> >laptop and then soud goes away or if I adjust the mixer controls just
> >so, I can cancel out the sound. For some reason it sometimes gets
> >messed up and that usually is because I have made a slight adjustment
> >to something and then I have to start all over again isulating the
> >sound by tweaking things. So, has anyone have any thoughts on how I
> >might correct this problem, so I do not have to keeep messing with  
> the
> >controls? It could be the mixer, but I suspect there is an issue with
> >both machines being connected to the KVM and this is a pretty cheap
> >KVM. The KVM is not near the computers, it is under my desk.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >
>
> Tim
> trouble
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers

[Scott Howell]

I could do that, but the only reason I put the machine to sleep is  
after hours and I still need it ready in the event somethng comes up.  
Yes, I could probably do that or even just disconnect it, but I am  
trying more to udnerstand the problem really.

tnx,
On Mar 2, 2009, at 6:19 PM, Mike Rusk wrote:

> What if you turn off the computer instead of putting it to sleep?  
> Maybe it is still trying to access something even though it is  
> sleeping, just a thought.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Scott Howell
> To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:44 PM
> Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers
>
> Hey folks, I have a rather interesting problem that I hope is
> acceptable for the list. Let me explain my setup and then I'll explain
> the problem.
>
> I have a small mixer that has three or so inputs. I have my employer's
> Dell laptop, my Macintosh, and a cable into which I plug my electric
> bass. All this is served by one pair of headphones. Now in order to
> save on space and so forth, I have a usb KVM switch. servicing both
> computers. THis KVM only handles a keyboard and mouse, but you could
> connect video, which I do not. So, when I have the Mac and PC laptop
> connected and running, everything is fine. If I shut the laptop lid/
> put it to sleep, but leave it connected, I get this humming noise that
> is not 60Mhz, but probably almost twice that. I can disconnect the
> laptop and then soud goes away or if I adjust the mixer controls just
> so, I can cancel out the sound. For some reason it sometimes gets
> messed up and that usually is because I have made a slight adjustment
> to something and then I have to start all over again isulating the
> sound by tweaking things. So, has anyone have any thoughts on how I
> might correct this problem, so I do not have to keeep messing with the
> controls? It could be the mixer, but I suspect there is an issue with
> both machines being connected to the KVM and this is a pretty cheap
> KVM. The KVM is not near the computers, it is under my desk.
>
> Thanks,
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> 



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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers

[Max Robinson]

You may have a ground loop.  They are very difficult to break without 
loosing a ground on something.  If your mixer has balanced inputs it might 
be easier.  I have a 12 x 4 channel mixer, an 8 track digital recorder, 
sound module, signal processor, and monitor amplifier, all hooked together 
and to my computer.  Only one computer though.  It took a lot of making 
special patch cords to get all the hum and other interference out of the 
system.  Do you live near a TV transmitter?  I do and that was a problem 
too.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Howell" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:44 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers


> Hey folks, I have a rather interesting problem that I hope is
> acceptable for the list. Let me explain my setup and then I'll explain
> the problem.
>
> I have a small mixer that has three or so inputs. I have my employer's
> Dell laptop, my Macintosh, and a cable into which I plug my electric
> bass. All this is served by one pair of headphones. Now in order to
> save on space and so forth, I have a usb KVM switch. servicing both
> computers. THis KVM only handles a keyboard and mouse, but you could
> connect video, which I do not. So, when I have the Mac and PC laptop
> connected and running, everything is fine. If I shut the laptop lid/
> put it to sleep, but leave it connected, I get this humming noise that
> is not 60Mhz, but probably almost twice that. I can disconnect the
> laptop and then soud goes away or if I adjust the mixer controls just
> so, I can cancel out the sound. For some reason it sometimes gets
> messed up and that usually is because I have made a slight adjustment
> to something and then I have to start all over again isulating the
> sound by tweaking things. So, has anyone have any thoughts on how I
> might correct this problem, so I do not have to keeep messing with the
> controls? It could be the mixer, but I suspect there is an issue with
> both machines being connected to the KVM and this is a pretty cheap
> KVM. The KVM is not near the computers, it is under my desk.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers

[Trouble]

The kvn shouldn't have a problem with that setup. however, if you 
think it is, unplug it and see if hum goes away. That will tell for 
sure if the laptop is doing it or the kvn.

At 05:44 PM 3/2/2009, you wrote:

>Hey folks, I have a rather interesting problem that I hope is
>acceptable for the list. Let me explain my setup and then I'll explain
>the problem.
>
>I have a small mixer that has three or so inputs. I have my employer's
>Dell laptop, my Macintosh, and a cable into which I plug my electric
>bass. All this is served by one pair of headphones. Now in order to
>save on space and so forth, I have a usb KVM switch. servicing both
>computers. THis KVM only handles a keyboard and mouse, but you could
>connect video, which I do not. So, when I have the Mac and PC laptop
>connected and running, everything is fine. If I shut the laptop lid/
>put it to sleep, but leave it connected, I get this humming noise that
>is not 60Mhz, but probably almost twice that. I can disconnect the
>laptop and then soud goes away or if I adjust the mixer controls just
>so, I can cancel out the sound. For some reason it sometimes gets
>messed up and that usually is because I have made a slight adjustment
>to something and then I have to start all over again isulating the
>sound by tweaking things. So, has anyone have any thoughts on how I
>might correct this problem, so I do not have to keeep messing with the
>controls? It could be the mixer, but I suspect there is an issue with
>both machines being connected to the KVM and this is a pretty cheap
>KVM. The KVM is not near the computers, it is under my desk.
>
>Thanks,
>
>

Tim
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Re: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers

[Mike Rusk]

What if you turn off the computer instead of putting it to sleep?  Maybe it is 
still trying to access something even though it is sleeping, just a thought.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Scott Howell 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 4:44 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] question on interference form computers


  Hey folks, I have a rather interesting problem that I hope is 
  acceptable for the list. Let me explain my setup and then I'll explain 
  the problem.

  I have a small mixer that has three or so inputs. I have my employer's 
  Dell laptop, my Macintosh, and a cable into which I plug my electric 
  bass. All this is served by one pair of headphones. Now in order to 
  save on space and so forth, I have a usb KVM switch. servicing both 
  computers. THis KVM only handles a keyboard and mouse, but you could 
  connect video, which I do not. So, when I have the Mac and PC laptop 
  connected and running, everything is fine. If I shut the laptop lid/ 
  put it to sleep, but leave it connected, I get this humming noise that 
  is not 60Mhz, but probably almost twice that. I can disconnect the 
  laptop and then soud goes away or if I adjust the mixer controls just 
  so, I can cancel out the sound. For some reason it sometimes gets 
  messed up and that usually is because I have made a slight adjustment 
  to something and then I have to start all over again isulating the 
  sound by tweaking things. So, has anyone have any thoughts on how I 
  might correct this problem, so I do not have to keeep messing with the 
  controls? It could be the mixer, but I suspect there is an issue with 
  both machines being connected to the KVM and this is a pretty cheap 
  KVM. The KVM is not near the computers, it is under my desk.

  Thanks,


  

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