[BlindHandyMan] temperature controlled box

2007-10-15 Thread David Sexton
I want to build a temperature controlled box for controlling the temperature at 
which my bread dough rises.
I'm thinking a box with a heat lamp and some sort of thermostat.
Any ideas for the heat and more importantly the thermostat to control it?
David


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Re: [BlindHandyMan] temperature controlled box

2007-10-15 Thread RJ
One of the things you can do is use a stiafoam cooler, like they ship meat 
with. Add a heating pad and a towel over the pad, place the bread in the cooler 
and put the lid on it. This has worked well for me, both for making homemade 
yoga, and bread.
RJ
  - Original Message - 
  From: David Sexton 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 5:38 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] temperature controlled box


  I want to build a temperature controlled box for controlling the temperature 
at which my bread dough rises.
  I'm thinking a box with a heat lamp and some sort of thermostat.
  Any ideas for the heat and more importantly the thermostat to control it?
  David

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RE: [BlindHandyMan] temperature controlled box

2007-10-15 Thread robert moore
How about getting an incubater
Or if you know any farmer types that might have one you could ask to see how
they are designed.

-Original Message-
From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of RJ
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 4:49 PM
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] temperature controlled box

One of the things you can do is use a stiafoam cooler, like they ship meat
with. Add a heating pad and a towel over the pad, place the bread in the
cooler and put the lid on it. This has worked well for me, both for making
homemade yoga, and bread.
RJ
- Original Message -
From: David Sexton
To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 5:38 PM
Subject: [BlindHandyMan] temperature controlled box

I want to build a temperature controlled box for controlling the temperature
at which my bread dough rises.
I'm thinking a box with a heat lamp and some sort of thermostat.
Any ideas for the heat and more importantly the thermostat to control it?
David

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] temperature controlled box

2007-10-15 Thread Tom Fowle
David,
It won't take very much heat if you insulate the box at all well.
I'd bet a couple 15 or 25 watt light bulbs around the bottom corners with a
false bottom of maybe peg board above that to help distribute the heat would
do just fine.

You might tear apart an old small electric heater and scrounge the thermostat
so it could go just in series with the light bulbs.

Since you want a temp of between 85 and 90 degrees that should
be in the probable range of such a simple
thermostat.

I just raise my dough in the gas oven with pilot light and 
the oven's light on, works fine, but if you have
an electric oven it's a pain.

BTW, the official name for such a box I think would be a 
proofing box should you want to google that and see if anything
usefull comes up.

Remember you want the lights not directly shining on the dough or bowls, 
and there should be room around everything to get some air movement so as
to try to keep as even a temp as you can manage.

Also, I just tried some King Arthur white-wheat flour this weekend,
its a different wheat and ground quite fine, so the bread comes out with a 
texture half way between 100% whole wheat and white.  Firm and moist
but not so heavy. very good flavor and never gets gooie
like white.

Hope that helps, maybe others have more comments.

Have fun and good breading

tom Fowle



Re: [BlindHandyMan] temperature controlled box

2007-10-15 Thread Dale Leavens
I suppose it depends on how much you want to spend and how capable you want it 
to be.

Proofing bread requires dark, warmth and humidity. Any sort of cardboard box 
then can do, a foam insulated cooler will be more energy efficient and you 
might construct one using something like extruded Styrofoam board and even 
lined with stainless steel to be extreme.

One of those VIP talking thermostats designed to operate electric heaters could 
be used inside the box to allow you to set and monitor the environment but a 
much cheaper method would be the sort of dial thermostat for electric heat with 
a pointer marked so you can tell where to set it.

There are low power heat pads used under planting trays for seed germination or 
you could plug in a kettle the heat and steam from which would give heat and 
humidity controlled by the thermostat.

When I was a kid and teenager living on the island in Temagami my mom used to 
wrap her pans of dough in blankets and set them on the couch next to the oil 
fired space heater in the living room. Seemed to work for her.

Dale Leavens, Cochrane Ontario Canada
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  - Original Message - 
  From: robert moore 
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 6:16 PM
  Subject: RE: [BlindHandyMan] temperature controlled box


  How about getting an incubater
  Or if you know any farmer types that might have one you could ask to see how
  they are designed.

  -Original Message-
  From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Behalf Of RJ
  Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 4:49 PM
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] temperature controlled box

  One of the things you can do is use a stiafoam cooler, like they ship meat
  with. Add a heating pad and a towel over the pad, place the bread in the
  cooler and put the lid on it. This has worked well for me, both for making
  homemade yoga, and bread.
  RJ
  - Original Message -
  From: David Sexton
  To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 5:38 PM
  Subject: [BlindHandyMan] temperature controlled box

  I want to build a temperature controlled box for controlling the temperature
  at which my bread dough rises.
  I'm thinking a box with a heat lamp and some sort of thermostat.
  Any ideas for the heat and more importantly the thermostat to control it?
  David

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Re: [BlindHandyMan] temperature controlled box

2007-10-15 Thread Tom Fowle
I had a friend who used to live up in the siera where power cost her for gas
or propane and she had lots of wood.
She had a cupboard built above the kitchen range just for proofing.
As the range almost never was allowed to cool off, the cupboard
was always just right.

And bread baked in a wood overn is really better.

Then another friend had a cupboard that was next to heating ducts in idaho
falls, in the winter the heat was almost never off so that was perfect too.

What I'd like to do is build both a solar proofing box and a solar
oven.  Maybe when I retire and have time and energy.

Tom