Re: USB cables RE: [BlindHandyMan] New Tool Review

2007-10-05 Thread spiro
technically it is true. The better cable, the better the transfer. I use 
digital audio as a reference.
I *Know  digital for the 16 bit 44.1 mhz of audio, and 
higher, will do better with a better cable.

But that isn't where most folks are centered. The computer industry surely 
isn't centered there.
It is hard enough to get *real audio folks to get past brand names, to 
some of the craziest things that you can replicate ; to finding the 
difference...
the idea that a coat hanger is a good audio conducter is still near at 
hand.
As long as Radio Shack sells a cable for less than $5; it is sadly a mute 
point.

Now to the practical, if it is a critical or otherwise high demand app; 
you'll find that everything from the power supply, to the cards, 
shielding, and nearly every other point in the *separates used for the 
job, will be necessarily contributing to the final product.

On Wed, 3 Oct 2007, robert moore wrote:

 Tom If any one says not to use cheepies unless over a long distance?
 Correct me if I am wrong but as a general principle if quality is a concern
 would you not think that the longer the travle data has to go the more you
 might be concerned about the quality that is needed to cary the data?
 I am not an electronics guy but it just seems logical.
 Robert

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 I picked up a little pack including a so-called USB A to A cable
 and a set of adaptors from USB A to several things. This was at a local
 Big Lots store and didn't cost more than a few bucks.

 Anybody tells you not to use cheap USB cables, unless over a very long
 distance, is nuts, cheapies work fine.

 tom



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Re: USB cables RE: [BlindHandyMan] New Tool Review

2007-10-04 Thread Dan Rossi
robert,

I think Tom meant that cheap USB cables are just fine to use unless you 
are going long distances, in which case you want more expensive cables.


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Re: USB cables RE: [BlindHandyMan] New Tool Review

2007-10-04 Thread William Stephan
Yeah, and he's got a bar in his house too.


 Bill Stephan
Kansas City, MO
(816)803-2469
William Stephan


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Re: USB cables RE: [BlindHandyMan] New Tool Review

2007-10-04 Thread Tom Fowle
Did I say it backwards? I meant, I think, maybe,
that cheapie cables are fine except perhaps over long distances.

Standing on it's little blind head.
Tom



RE: USB cables RE: [BlindHandyMan] New Tool Review

2007-10-04 Thread robert moore
Tom
So just to clarify for me and others that are not that knowledgeable about
elictronics.  Would it be true that the longer the distance data has to
travel the more important quality of wire needed, becomes?

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Did I say it backwards? I meant, I think, maybe,
that cheapie cables are fine except perhaps over long distances.

Standing on it's little blind head.
Tom



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Re: USB cables RE: [BlindHandyMan] New Tool Review

2007-10-04 Thread Tom Fowle
robert,
yep, the quality of the insulation is probably more important than that of 
the wire its self but that's nit picking.  I think the USB limit is fifteen
feet anyhow, so I doubt cables matter much in that length.

Depending on the type of signal being sent,
there are all kinds of issues that need considering like impedance of the
cable, capacitance and inductance shielding etc. Of all of these, probably the 
actual
metal that makes up the wire is least important as long as its copper.

Silver plating only matters for corosionresistance unless you're into extremely
high frequencies say microwaves,which USB ain't.

Tom