Re: [Blue-obelisk] a csd alternative

2007-05-18 Thread proclus

I would like to create an online archive of images of all the small
molecules that are available from WorldWideMolecularMatrix and other
sources that provide molecular coordinates.

http://www.dspace.cam.ac.uk/handle/1810/724

Some notes and links about the molecules could also be provided.  Not
only would such an archive be immensely useful for many researchers
(including myself), but it could also provide the raw material for
Wikipedia stubs and other projects.  I have a dual core Opteron at
gnu-darwin.org that is currently mostly idle at this time, and I would
really like to do this.  I am familiar with the necessary molecular
coordinate formatting, rendering, image processing, and other software
that is required to do the project. Any suggestions on how to get the
required level of access to the molecular databases in order to get this
done would be much appreciated.  BTW, obviously we are talking free and
open public access here.

How does http://molecules.gnu-darwin.org/ sound?

Please send me links to other small molecule coordinate archives, so
that I can get started right away.  There are a few listed below too.

BTW, if someone has already done this, why is it not in Google, and
please point me to it.  Thanks!

Regards,
Michael L. Love Ph.D
Department of Biophysics and Biophysical Chemistry  
School of Medicine  
Johns Hopkins University
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On 19 Dec, peter murray-rust wrote:
> At 17:16 18/12/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>>I assume this mail came from Blue Obelisk - the header iws confused.
> 
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>>I would like to recommend the following alternatives to the csd suite
>>for chemical database searches.
> 
> What is meant by csd?  If this is the Cambridge Database then this 
> primarily only relevant if the alternative sources contains 
> crystallographic data.
> 
> 
>>  These are open databases of chemical
>>substances, which you might find bound in your crystals as substrates or
>>ligands.  The databases can be downloaded in whole, or they are tied in
>>to PubChem, thus conforming to the principle of public accessibility.
>>Here are the links
>>
>>http://chembank.broad.harvard.edu/
> 
> What are the license conditions on this. It is not available without 
> registering. And can the whole database be downloaded without further 
> permission?
> 
>>http://biocyc.org/open-compounds.shtml
>>
>>I learned about these tools on the Blue-obelisk list, which is
>>dedicated to FOSS tools in chemistry.  Some of these folks are
>>working on the Wikipedia chemical specification formats or they have
>>agreed to do their scientific work in an open data-sharing environment.
>>Nice work to them!
>>
>>Regards,
>>Michael L. Love Ph.D
>>Department of Biophysics and Biophysical Chemistry
>>School of Medicine
>>Johns Hopkins University
>>725 N. Wolfe Street
>>Room 608B WBSB
>>Baltimore MD 21205-2185
>>
>>Interoffice Mail: 608B WBSB, SoM
>>
>>office: 410-614-2267
>>lab:410-614-3179
>>fax:410-502-6910
>>cell:   443-824-3451
>>http://www.gnu-darwin.org/
>>
>>
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Re: [Blue-obelisk] a csd alternative

2007-05-18 Thread Rajarshi Guha


On May 18, 2007, at 1:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I would like to create an online archive of images of all the small
molecules that are available from WorldWideMolecularMatrix and other
sources that provide molecular coordinates.

http://www.dspace.cam.ac.uk/handle/1810/724


Will these be 2D structure diagrams? Or ray traced 3D images? If the  
former what is the need to store these? They could be easily  
generated on the fly (either by local software or by web services  
such as  http://rguha.ath.cx:8080/cdkws/services/StructureDiagram? 
wsdl). If the latter, what is the utility of static 3D images (apart  
from the eye-candy aspect)?


You can get 3D coordinates for most of PubChem from http:// 
www.chembiogrid.org/cheminfo/p3d - depending on the mode of access  
(such as bulk downloads) you can get access to the underlying  
database if needed.


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Re: [Blue-obelisk] a csd alternative

2007-05-18 Thread proclus
On 18 May, Rajarshi Guha wrote:
> Will these be 2D structure diagrams? Or ray traced 3D images? If the  
> former what is the need to store these? They could be easily  
> generated on the fly (either by local software or by web services  
> such as  http://rguha.ath.cx:8080/cdkws/services/StructureDiagram? 
> wsdl). If the latter, what is the utility of static 3D images (apart  
> from the eye-candy aspect)

Quick access in the browser window is the answer, accessible to anyone
without special configuration.  I haven't decided on line v. rendered
diagrams.  Maybe both.

> You can get 3D coordinates for most of PubChem from http:// 
> www.chembiogrid.org/cheminfo/p3d - depending on the mode of access  
> (such as bulk downloads) you can get access to the underlying  
> database if needed.

Thanks for the suggestions!

Regards,
Michael L. Love

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> 

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