Re: [BlueObelisk-discuss] [Jmol-users] PDB - OK, who's the wise guy?

2013-01-21 Thread Robert Hanson
Thanks, Andrew, that history helps. And I must say, the hybrid-36 scheme
really is very clever. You would probably like the base-90 scheme I cooked
up for the JVXL surface file format.

Unlike Peter, I have no problem with custom specifications, as long as they
are clear, unambiguous, and published. Something like this should not have
to be discovered 100,000 lines into a file. It would have been immensely
helpful if there had been a required REMARK record to the effect that atom
numbers/residue numbers were in some specific format. Far too often someone
comes up with a solution to their problem for their program and implements
it without ever considering how it might impact other programs. As it is,
Jmol, for instance, with some tweaks, can now read a file with both the
hybrid-36 and Schroedinger's HEX solution (upon the next release), but it
involves additional checking just to be able to be on the look-out for this
issue, and that potentially slows down all PDB file reading by Jmol (or any
other program).

Bob



On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Andrew Dalke da...@dalkescientific.comwrote:

 On Jan 20, 2013, at 1:08 PM, Andrew Dalke wrote:
  For kicks, I pulled up my copy of the PDB format from 1974. It says that
  the PDB file has: COMPND, AUTHOR, CRYST1, DECODE, REMARK

 Err, that was supposed to be deleted. I found that I didn't have a complete
 spec, dug through the old PDB newsletters, looked for old printouts in my
 files, couldn't find it, got distracted, and managed to forget to delete
 these two lines.

 So I don't know if the 1970s spec says that those files were supposed to
 be in every PDB file, but I'm pretty certain that they were in every file
 that they distributed.

 Andrew
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Re: [BlueObelisk-discuss] [Jmol-users] PDB - OK, who's the wise guy?

2013-01-20 Thread Andrew Dalke
On Jan 20, 2013, at 1:08 PM, Andrew Dalke wrote:
 For kicks, I pulled up my copy of the PDB format from 1974. It says that
 the PDB file has: COMPND, AUTHOR, CRYST1, DECODE, REMARK

Err, that was supposed to be deleted. I found that I didn't have a complete
spec, dug through the old PDB newsletters, looked for old printouts in my
files, couldn't find it, got distracted, and managed to forget to delete
these two lines.

So I don't know if the 1970s spec says that those files were supposed to
be in every PDB file, but I'm pretty certain that they were in every file
that they distributed.

Andrew
da...@dalkescientific.com



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