[steering-discuss] About elections
Hello everyone, given that the Foundation is close to being created, and that we have now nearly 100 approved members (thanks to the membership committee for their great work!), I guess that in the near future we should think about holding elections for the future board of directors. IIRC, all other roles besides the AB, are then voted on by the BoD. Anyone already had a closer look or is working on that yet? I guess we need some nomination phase, and people taking care of and monitoring the poll, and those should be not amongst the candidates. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] About elections
Hi :) I think 100 is still quite small compared to the numbers of people actually involved. So the list of members is still more like a special-interest sub-set. The founder members are doing a great job and i hope that they stay in place for a long while yet. Regards from Tom :) - Original Message From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Mon, 6 June, 2011 10:19:06 Subject: [steering-discuss] About elections Hello everyone, given that the Foundation is close to being created, and that we have now nearly 100 approved members (thanks to the membership committee for their great work!), I guess that in the near future we should think about holding elections for the future board of directors. IIRC, all other roles besides the AB, are then voted on by the BoD. Anyone already had a closer look or is working on that yet? I guess we need some nomination phase, and people taking care of and monitoring the poll, and those should be not amongst the candidates. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] About elections
Hi Tom, Tom Davies wrote on 2011-06-06 11.22: I think 100 is still quite small compared to the numbers of people actually involved. So the list of members is still more like a special-interest sub-set. The founder members are doing a great job and i hope that they stay in place for a long while yet. thanks for the flowers, as we say in Germany. :-) Well, there are two things: The steering committee has to end its existence one year after being set in place, which would be, depending on how that needs to be counted, either end of August, or September 28th. In addition, to set up the Foundation in Germany, we need to provide the names of the legal representatives. As we hope to have the legal paperwork finished soon, we also need those names. So, maybe waiting one or two more weeks is possible, but given that we have been accepting members for a few weeks already, I guess the time that is right will come soon ;) Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] About elections
- Original Message From: Volker Merschmann merschm...@gmail.com To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Mon, 6 June, 2011 11:02:56 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] About elections Hi, 2011/6/6 Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org: Tom Davies wrote on 2011-06-06 11.22: I think 100 is still quite small compared to the numbers of people actually involved. So the list of members is still more like a special-interest sub-set. The founder members are doing a great job and i hope that they stay in place for a long while yet. thanks for the flowers, as we say in Germany. :-) Well, there are two things: The steering committee has to end its existence one year after being set in place, which would be, depending on how that needs to be counted, either end of August, or September 28th. In addition, to set up the Foundation in Germany, we need to provide the names of the legal representatives. As we hope to have the legal paperwork finished soon, we also need those names. So, maybe waiting one or two more weeks is possible, but given that we have been accepting members for a few weeks already, I guess the time that is right will come soon ;) I'd like to add that not every contributor wants to be a member of the foundation. Especially those who are payed for the work might not like to have a too personal connection. We can ask the membership committee if there is a reasonable number of applications left which can be finished in the next days. Else we should go ahead for the reasons given by Florian. Volker Hi :) +1 Companies do reasonably often pay shares to employees. This would be slightly different in that the 'shares' do not give a pay-out but similar in that they give workers a say in the organisation. I think paid workers should be encouraged to become members but obviously it is their choice. Regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] About elections
Hi Volker, all, On 06/06/2011 13:02, Volker Merschmann wrote: [...] I'd like to add that not every contributor wants to be a member of the foundation. Especially those who are payed for the work might not like to have a too personal connection. We can ask the membership committee if there is a reasonable number of applications left which can be finished in the next days. Yes there is still several applications, either we have to statute on or that have just arrived since last week. We did had difficulties to meet during May, but we have now a regular meeting on Monday, so that may help to speed the process too. Else we should go ahead for the reasons given by Florian. The time needed to put in place the process to organize the elections would be enough to have the members incorporated by the Committee, so no need to delay, both could run side by side. Also this is often a reproach that the SC members have not been elected, so for me, the sooner the better to have a clear and fair situation. Kind regards Sophie -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] About elections
- Original Message From: sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Mon, 6 June, 2011 12:10:30 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] About elections Hi Volker, all, On 06/06/2011 13:02, Volker Merschmann wrote: [...] I'd like to add that not every contributor wants to be a member of the foundation. Especially those who are payed for the work might not like to have a too personal connection. We can ask the membership committee if there is a reasonable number of applications left which can be finished in the next days. Yes there is still several applications, either we have to statute on or that have just arrived since last week. We did had difficulties to meet during May, but we have now a regular meeting on Monday, so that may help to speed the process too. Else we should go ahead for the reasons given by Florian. The time needed to put in place the process to organize the elections would be enough to have the members incorporated by the Committee, so no need to delay, both could run side by side. Also this is often a reproach that the SC members have not been elected, so for me, the sooner the better to have a clear and fair situation. Kind regards Sophie Hi :) Agreed. But the founders have shown good strategic planning and good planning for the future as shown by the way things have played out in the last few weeks. I think it would take time for newly elected people to have such commitment to the long-term vision. I have to point out that i am not a founder and not even a regular member. I've had disagreements and arguments with founders but have always had good reason to respect even the ones i disagree with. Regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[steering-discuss] Donations page ...
Hi Marc, So ! thanks for your awesome work around the 3.4features page - very much appreciated. Since you're clearly so effective in making our webpages look pretty, I was wondering ... Is there any chance you could help fix / improve our donations page ? first - IMHO we need a winsome link to it from the download page (one of our highest hit-count pages) perhaps: Please consider helping LibreOffice with our mission by donating towards our development, travel and marketing expenses or whatever ;-) And then looking at the donation page we still have these bugs: * we don't actually ever ask for money ;-) please ... * we don't re-assure people that their money will be well-spent (or even spent). * we recommend the German association, where SPI would prolly be a better leading fit for US guys - those should be on a par I think: we can spend SPI money more easily I think. * we don't have any pictures of happy LibreOffice hackers or users - it'd be great to dig out a picture of a LinuxTag booth, or a FOSDEM stand with some collateral etc. Is there any chance you could look into that, I think it'd make a big difference to our ability to fund travel to conferences, market, and hopefully start to pay for key infrastructure development. Thanks ! Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] About elections
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: - Original Message From: sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Mon, 6 June, 2011 12:35:04 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] About elections Hi Tom, On 06/06/2011 14:20, Tom Davies wrote: [...] Hi :) Agreed. But the founders have shown good strategic planning and good planning for the future as shown by the way things have played out in the last few weeks. I think it would take time for newly elected people to have such commitment to the long-term vision. Thanks for the flowers as we also say in French :) I have to point out that i am not a founder and not even a regular member. I've had disagreements and arguments with founders but have always had good reason to respect even the ones i disagree with. Even if no more a member of the SC, I will still consider me as a founder. But it's not what is important to my eyes. The importance for me reside in the fact that even if I'm not a SC member, I'll still have a say because I'm a member of the Foundation, and though can express my feeling and my wills for the present or the future of the foundation and it's community. And I'm sure that the new formed SC will take them into account, we're not new and have always shared our knowledge and experience. Kind regards Sophie Hi :) True. Weirdly i hadn't thought of that point lol :) I think the important issue to vote on is the Apache issue. Vote on what exactly ? I was wondering if it might be possible to collaborate with them to put a wiki-page together on the TDF wiki so that the different lists can vote I don't think we have a say and even less a vote on what Apache Foundation is going to do. First we have to see what they decide and if they are indeed going forward with their plan to fork, (granted there is not much suspense there) Then we have to see _how_ they're going to do it Then we have to see _when_/_if_ the poddle graduate Then we have to see _what_ they end-up doing. Until then it is pretty much vaporware and there is not much to do, even less to vote about. Norbert -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] About elections
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 09:41 -0500, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: Until then it is pretty much vaporware and there is not much to do, even less to vote about. 100% agreed. I'm eager to vote in support of / on our SC - since it seems some criticise them for being un-elected :-) Nice to knock down all the objections one by one of course. ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] About elections
Le Mon, 06 Jun 2011 16:52:17 +0100, Michael Meeks michael.me...@novell.com a écrit : On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 09:41 -0500, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: Until then it is pretty much vaporware and there is not much to do, even less to vote about. 100% agreed. I'm eager to vote in support of / on our SC - since it seems some criticise them for being un-elected :-) Nice to knock down all the objections one by one of course. ATB, Michael. +1 -- Charles-H. Schulz Membre du Comité exécutif The Document Foundation. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] About elections
On 6/6/11 8:07 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Michael Meeksmichael.me...@novell.com a écrit : 100% agreed. I'm eager to vote in support of / on our SC - since it seems some criticise them for being un-elected :-) Nice to knock down all the objections one by one of course. +1 +1 -- Italo Vignoli - The Document Foundation phone +39.348.5653829 - VoIP +39.02.320621813 email it...@libreoffice.it - skype italovignoli gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
