Re: [steering-discuss] Request for official statement about dedicated logos for community groups

2011-06-14 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Bernhard,

Bernhard Dippold wrote on 2011-06-10 00.25:


There has been a reply by Sophie, but I didn't make out any formal SC
discussion or decision on this topic.

As this covers more than just design and visual identity questions
(definition of teams, how to advertise teams and external groups) I
don't think that this decision should be left to any of the teams like
marketing or design.


I'll try to discuss this during the next SC call.

Florian

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Re: [steering-discuss] proposed bylaws changes

2011-06-14 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Michael Meeks wrote on 2011-06-13 17.19:

Counting votes we had: Florian, Charles, Andre, Olivier, Italo and
Sophie voting in favour; so I've made all of the edits in the wiki.


thanks a lot, Michael! I will ask the German community to translate the 
changes back. :)


Thanks to everyone who contributed! (Oh, and David, I never thought you 
would do the bank account thing, don't worry ;)


Florian

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Re: [steering-discuss] proposed bylaws changes

2011-06-14 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Toki,

toki wrote on 2011-06-10 19.16:


When I was reading German law on non-profits, my impression was the
By-Laws had to specify how members of the board of directors, and any
advisory board were selected, and mid-term replacements done.

I don't see anything in the by-laws that specifies how mid-term
replacements are done. Is that not legally required?


we have some rules on that, like Each member of the BoD must appoint 
one Community Member as deputy who can replace her/him in case of need, 
and who has the same rights during her/his period of absence or 
unavailability. or The Chairperson can be discharged and replaced by 
the BoD at any time.


However, it indeed might be needed that we incorporate some more details 
into the binding statutes we are currently preparing. I have details on 
this soon.


Thanks for pointing this out!
Florian

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Re: [steering-discuss] Fwd: Google Alert - libreoffice

2011-06-14 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Italo,

2011/6/13 Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com

 It looks like media are on our side.

 Ask LH: Am I Missing Out By Sticking With Open Source And Not Buying
 Microsoft ... on Lifehacker Australia
 
 http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2011/06/ask-lh-am-i-missing-out-by-sticking-with-open-source-and-not-buying-microsoft-office/
 

 The Fall Of OpenOffice And Rise Of LibreOffice on Muktware
 http://www.muktware.com/hacksheet/1399

 Bruce Byfield article on Linux Magazine linked by Muktware:

 http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/The-Decline-and-Fall-of-OpenOffice.org




This is indeed really good. Now, if IBM really throws in the code from Lotus
Symphony, we'll have to be prepared, as some journalists might change their
stance... Although probably not :-)

Best,

Charles.




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Re: [steering-discuss] Fwd: Google Alert - libreoffice

2011-06-14 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I thought the GPL, LGPL  MPL were all much more permissive than the Apache 
licenses?  I thought the whole point of OpenSource was that it is 
contra-intuitive.  By insisting on intellectual freedoms, ideas are able to 
build on each other more easily.  

Regards from
Tom :)






From: Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org
To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org
Sent: Tue, 14 June, 2011 8:21:17
Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] Fwd: Google Alert - libreoffice

Italo,

2011/6/13 Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com

 It looks like media are on our side.

 Ask LH: Am I Missing Out By Sticking With Open Source And Not Buying
 Microsoft ... on Lifehacker Australia
 
http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2011/06/ask-lh-am-i-missing-out-by-sticking-with-open-source-and-not-buying-microsoft-office/
/
 

 The Fall Of OpenOffice And Rise Of LibreOffice on Muktware
 http://www.muktware.com/hacksheet/1399

 Bruce Byfield article on Linux Magazine linked by Muktware:

http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/The-Decline-and-Fall-of-OpenOffice.org
g




This is indeed really good. Now, if IBM really throws in the code from Lotus
Symphony, we'll have to be prepared, as some journalists might change their
stance... Although probably not :-)

Best,

Charles.




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Re: [steering-discuss] proposed bylaws changes

2011-06-14 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think it is better to do the minimum that is required to make it legal and 
for 
the rest write in things like Mid-term replacements are to be covered by 
internal TDF policy which is to be reviewed regularly.  In some cases it makes 
sense to name the specific document that will cover that particular policy but 
even that can make things unnecessarily restrictive in the future.  Please 
avoid 
setting things in stone where it's not required by law.
Regards from
Tom :)






From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org
To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org
Sent: Tue, 14 June, 2011 8:01:36
Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] proposed bylaws changes

Hi Toki,

toki wrote on 2011-06-10 19.16:

 When I was reading German law on non-profits, my impression was the
 By-Laws had to specify how members of the board of directors, and any
 advisory board were selected, and mid-term replacements done.
 
 I don't see anything in the by-laws that specifies how mid-term
 replacements are done. Is that not legally required?

we have some rules on that, like Each member of the BoD must appoint one 
Community Member as deputy who can replace her/him in case of need, and who has 
the same rights during her/his period of absence or unavailability. or The 
Chairperson can be discharged and replaced by the BoD at any time.

However, it indeed might be needed that we incorporate some more details into 
the binding statutes we are currently preparing. I have details on this soon.

Thanks for pointing this out!
Florian

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Re: [steering-discuss] proposed bylaws changes

2011-06-14 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I thought everyone quickly checked that sort of thing anyway?  I do.  I thought 
David was making a joke out of the need for people to be a little more aware of 
one need for checking such rules.  A serious point put forwards as a joke.  

Regards from
Tom :)





From: Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org
To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org
Sent: Tue, 14 June, 2011 7:56:24
Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] proposed bylaws changes

Hi,

Michael Meeks wrote on 2011-06-13 17.19:
 Counting votes we had: Florian, Charles, Andre, Olivier, Italo and
 Sophie voting in favour; so I've made all of the edits in the wiki.

thanks a lot, Michael! I will ask the German community to translate the changes 
back. :)

Thanks to everyone who contributed! (Oh, and David, I never thought you would 
do 
the bank account thing, don't worry ;)

Florian

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Re: [steering-discuss] Fwd: Google Alert - libreoffice

2011-06-14 Thread Italo Vignoli

On 6/14/11 9:21 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:


This is indeed really good. Now, if IBM really throws in the code from Lotus
Symphony, we'll have to be prepared, as some journalists might change their
stance... Although probably not :-)


It would be nice to know what it might mean in practical terms... 
Throwing in the code might imply a huge dump of files which have little 
or no meaning at all (see what happened with OOo files from Oracle). In 
any case, we should be prepared to react, but I don't think that IBM 
will throw anything before all OOo code is there.


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[steering-discuss] Membership Committee wiki page updated

2011-06-14 Thread André Schnabel

Hi,

I just updated the infos at the MC wiki page (improve the generic 
agenda, so that it is showing, what we discuss; link to the minutes 
page; add mailing list name for how to contact the MC).


And in addition to that: I feel sorry to say, that yesterday's meeting 
had to be adjourned. I hope, we find a new timeslot within the next 
days, as some people are really wayiting for their application to be 
processed.


regards,

André

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