Re: [steering-discuss] SC calls via Mumble or OpenMeetings

2011-06-28 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-06-29 08.12:
> If you guys dont just let me know and ill get working on setting it up :D

best is to follow the website mailing list, there the setup is discussed ;)

Florian

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Re: [steering-discuss] SC calls via Mumble or OpenMeetings

2011-06-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina

Florian

If you guys dont just let me know and ill get working on setting it up :D

On 28/06/2011 22:42, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-06-28 12.38:

I would like to volunteer my mumble server.

I work at a data center and i have my own VPS given to me here for my
business and i am actually thinking of offering mumble services as part
of my business for a small fee. Obviously to the TDF there would be no
charge.

Let me know if you guys are interested in me setting up a channel for
the TDF and LO with password protection.

thanks for that! As far as I know, we already have a Mumble test server
running.

Florian




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Re: [steering-discuss] SC calls via Mumble or OpenMeetings

2011-06-28 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi,

Jonathan Aquilina wrote on 2011-06-28 12.38:
> I would like to volunteer my mumble server.
> 
> I work at a data center and i have my own VPS given to me here for my
> business and i am actually thinking of offering mumble services as part
> of my business for a small fee. Obviously to the TDF there would be no
> charge.
> 
> Let me know if you guys are interested in me setting up a channel for
> the TDF and LO with password protection.

thanks for that! As far as I know, we already have a Mumble test server
running.

Florian

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Re: [steering-discuss] SC calls via Mumble or OpenMeetings

2011-06-28 Thread Jonathan Aquilina

I would like to volunteer my mumble server.

I work at a data center and i have my own VPS given to me here for my 
business and i am actually thinking of offering mumble services as part 
of my business for a small fee. Obviously to the TDF there would be no 
charge.


Let me know if you guys are interested in me setting up a channel for 
the TDF and LO with password protection.


On 28/06/2011 12:26, Florian Effenberger wrote:

Hi,

Christian Lohmaier wrote on 2011-06-27 16.20:


"With top quality, minimum latency and positional information sent, it
is 133.6 kbit/s including the IP and UDP overhead. With 60 ms
transmission delay, the lowest quality speech and no positional
information, it is 17.4 kbit/s (again with IP and UDP overhead). The
default quality setting uses 58.8 kbit/s."


that indeed sounds good.


I agree - so the ideal solution would just hook both traditional
phone-lines and mumble together. That would require one system that
can dial in to talkyoo and acts as a bridge to mumble - i.e. a
softphone that listen on both and forwards to both. (Well, depending
on how well echo-cancellation works, one might need two
one-directional systems here.


Such gateway wqould be what I'm looking forward to, may it be with 
Mumble, Skype or anything else. For Skype, you can buy a SIP trunk, 
but that is quite expensive, about 6-7 USD per month and line, so 
something with Mumble could be better. Simon already pointed out 
Mumble can connect to FreeSwitch, we might have to investigate.



But again I second Florian's question:
Those who are affected by the lack of dial-in numbers provided by
talkyoo - what would be the best alternative in your opinion?
( ) Skype
( ) OpenMeetings
( ) Mumble
( ) neither, need regular landline number
( ) other, please specify ___

Alternatively, you might point out why a given solution is not a valid
alternative (I cannot use xxx because )


+1. Let's wait for that feedback first, before we make plans. My ideal 
solution would be something plus PTSN/VoIP gateway.


Florian




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Re: [steering-discuss] SC calls via Mumble or OpenMeetings

2011-06-28 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Christian Lohmaier wrote on 2011-06-27 16.20:


"With top quality, minimum latency and positional information sent, it
is 133.6 kbit/s including the IP and UDP overhead. With 60 ms
transmission delay, the lowest quality speech and no positional
information, it is 17.4 kbit/s (again with IP and UDP overhead). The
default quality setting uses 58.8 kbit/s."


that indeed sounds good.


I agree - so the ideal solution would just hook both traditional
phone-lines and mumble together. That would require one system that
can dial in to talkyoo and acts as a bridge to mumble - i.e. a
softphone that listen on both and forwards to both. (Well, depending
on how well echo-cancellation works, one might need two
one-directional systems here.


Such gateway wqould be what I'm looking forward to, may it be with 
Mumble, Skype or anything else. For Skype, you can buy a SIP trunk, but 
that is quite expensive, about 6-7 USD per month and line, so something 
with Mumble could be better. Simon already pointed out Mumble can 
connect to FreeSwitch, we might have to investigate.



But again I second Florian's question:
Those who are affected by the lack of dial-in numbers provided by
talkyoo - what would be the best alternative in your opinion?
( ) Skype
( ) OpenMeetings
( ) Mumble
( ) neither, need regular landline number
( ) other, please specify ___

Alternatively, you might point out why a given solution is not a valid
alternative (I cannot use xxx because )


+1. Let's wait for that feedback first, before we make plans. My ideal 
solution would be something plus PTSN/VoIP gateway.


Florian

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Re: [steering-discuss] Wiki Work Items updated

2011-06-28 Thread Michael Meeks

On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 22:59 +0200, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> > By unilaterally chosen - the reality included private discussion with
> > and approval from IBM
> 
> Ah, thanks for disclosing this non-trivial detail. Of course, like
> everybody, I can only comment on what happens in public and not on what
> happens in secret...

Sure - which makes it harder ;-) oh I forgot, we also consulted with
Stardivision on the MPL piece and I was told by their mgmt that there
was no -legal- problem with StarDivision using it to meet their
commitments etc. So this really is/was not some random dice-rolling
outcome :-)

After all, both IBM and Oracle ship a bus-load of MPL licensed code,
which they were happy to let in as 'external' modules and ship in their
proprietary products; so it is intuitively reasonable too.

ATB,

Michael.

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