Re: [board-discuss] Re: Joining Silicon Sentier
Hi Marc, Marc Paré wrote on 2013-01-24 05:25: While I agree totally with joining Silicon Sentier, I was wondering how the BoD can run a vote when there is no quorum reached for the meeting? Are business for the meeting not cancelled and must be re-scheduled for proper discussion at a future meeting with quorum? Is the application of the BoD § 5 I rule not for only votes taken when a quorum is reached? It just seems strange to allow voting like this. this is the intention of the § 5 rules of procedure. It is designed that board members who are not active and miss voting, cannot block the foundation's business. To make that happen, and avoid abuse, this paragraph is limited on daily business, has a two business day waiting rule, and is limited to costs of 500 €. In a perfect world, all board members would vote within one business day, but this time, it seems this was not possible. Luckily, it was the first time, most of the board did not vote, and I hope it remains an exception, for sure. Florian
Re: [board-discuss] Re: Joining Silicon Sentier
Florian Effenberger wrote: Is the application of the BoD § 5 I rule not for only votes taken when a quorum is reached? It just seems strange to allow voting like this. this is the intention of the § 5 rules of procedure. It is designed that board members who are not active and miss voting, cannot block the foundation's business. Hi Marc, I second Florian here, and since I was the one putting that rule into https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/BoD_rules, let me put some more rationale behind it. TDF is not like the usual foundation, with the board living in the same city, or some executive director plus team sitting in the same office. So far, decision making, even over trivial amounts, always happens at the board level, and thus requires a team of seven spread across the world to react timely, mostly on email. §5 was meant to balance this - the board members trust each other enough, that we believe a director proposing something and calling a vote presumably knows what he or she is doing. The rule simply codifies that, but puts a (IMO reasonable) limit on the importance level of such-decided items. Cheers, -- Thorsten signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [board-discuss] Re: 2013 budget draft - TDF Budget as of 2013-01-14
Just wanted to correct myself, I didn't mean to say blamed, what I meant to say is we should encourage groups to be equally proactive. Instead of thinking that QA will be seen as favorites or some other such thing, we should make it clear that we support our community always and we always support those who develop clear and well thought out strategies That's all, thanks again all. Best Regards, Joel On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:38 AM, Bjoern Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com wrote: Hi, On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 02:06:19PM +0100, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: The QA netbooks have already been discussed on QA Call. The idea is to have a budget for a set of netbooks that we can give publically as prizes to our most active QA contributors in QA marathons and triage contests. A few addition given the discussion: We will likely lend the netbooks to a set of QA volunteers. And those machines are not intended to let our QA volunteers play Starcraft, but to be able to triage -- possibly on multiple platforms -- without busting their usual work machine. Why only QA? Because QA did organize quite a few events (Bug Hunting Sessions, QA Marathons, QA Wochenende) making me confident they have the manpower to organize this. I did hard work to support Rainer, Joel, Florian and other to get QA rolling over the last year. Once other parts of the project get there, the same applies to them -- I am confident at that point they will file their own budget requests. Note also this is an opportunity that presented itself: E.g. for developers we cant easily do this as a developer machine for LibreOffice is quite a bit more expensive. Best, Bjoern We will be discussing this tomorrow during our QA call if anyone wants to join. We are still in the early stages of developing the time frame, rules, etc... for the contest but hope to be done by Beta or RC of 4.1. As for the other comments, I think the main point is that the BoD is open to suggestions, feedback and comments from any group within the project. This being said, QA shouldn't be blamed for developing a clear goal and strategy to reach this goal and then presenting it to the BoD. At that point it's the BoD's job to determine if the request is valid. I am almost positive that this would apply to any group within the project and if the group could show that they were a) able to manage their request and b) had a clear goal and plan to achieve it, the BoD would have an open mind to most proposals. To me this is the foundation of our community. Best Regards, Joel -- *Joel Madero* LibO QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com -- *Joel Madero* LibO QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com
Re: [board-discuss] [VOTE] Ask for additional employement budget
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Em 24-01-2013 16:31, Thorsten Behrens escreveu: Dear board colleagues, the paperwork is done regarding our first employee, and with that I unfortunately have discovered a select few hidden cost items. Combined with the payroll provider fees (the contract which you had approved end of last year), and some mandatory social security dues, TDF will, at this moment, incur € 50.00 extra per month. Barring any other changes to taxes and social security dues over the year, I'd therefore ask the board to approve € 600.00 on top of the already-approved budget for employment, thus totalling an annual sum of € 37.307,40 + € 600.00 = € 37.907,40 Thanks a lot, Approved. - -- Olivier Hallot Founder, Board of Directors Member - The Document Foundation The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Fundação responsável civilmente, de acordo com o direito civil Detalhes Legais: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint LibreOffice translation leader for Brazilian Portuguese +55-21-8822-8812 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRAYUMAAoJEJp3R7nH3vLxiCUH/jwacqqk4n2agPTCPFkYIoXE +AJR5Yo3uj3oARYZts/1HygEXKGF0YeyFeu+0b3A6Y7rU6fbVTIYHcCYP+lltDAn U5Uf/N3NO2LGCk8e6/wSnGhiRfPrPDKt5QVVJMT97eOX3Q/IFc+jD1fDAmn68QSs PfLHRNKT9+Tl31oE7qbsjwvnvsgFx73zEmvtG8N8j6rUeFVUXUVWOamuf3Z855wM 7tX2WTmKImIrdMChS2Sip1fm+1Om+gMXHtYyz2t8TZjpCiuE49mjtsb1xcRD7GHd OGF/iXPvF4vQDyJb4P06XfaRoLz15+L6jV/cS5CPGbCdUI6vM5O9xTVKhjmN/BY= =9Zp5 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [board-discuss] [VOTE] Ask for additional employement budget
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 1/24/13 7:31 PM, Thorsten Behrens wrote: Barring any other changes to taxes and social security dues over the year, I'd therefore ask the board to approve € 600.00 on top of the already-approved budget for employment, thus totalling an annual sum of € 37.307,40 + € 600.00 = € 37.907,40 +1 - -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRAaYXAAoJEN6Ck0yquNXARaoH/A8wUC3jTUdqy4yyuMfAW4QX RvJ9O+WRQ7rlA4+8m//qdTBTJLfPukPR/4EMHmuSdzyFS5boebMSl54Icf2pemRe 680U0eQlJKVCogOP5z4tfDxs2G6Dt3kE/XDZTjkn6542k5G1Xfa1AGQjV35PClhm wkgpGLEC6bhjxaHyvlB/YEllhAvtKMOSl/S9tIcDpBclK0XaIPCdqYXHiYmmlF1k 4/pY1C/gIrkvzBze9srAheF/nZS+S/lcT3hMppS7S0fYwUS3Dm5C2RtTdztIzuYq ZHvLowj0n3SOubQLh8dBOXKwk5yaqvhizc5be1fwhfbT2fXYt/7EQgyKIv6wdDg= =wTl5 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
