Re: [steering-discuss] LinuxCon Europe
On 26 Aug 2011, at 10:32, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Italo, thanks for your engagement! Italo Vignoli wrote on 2011-08-26 11:04: Including food, I will spend a maximum of 300 Euro. I am asking the Steering Committee to approve this reimbursement. Given that we can pay this from SPI (paying from FrODeV is a bit problematic when it comes to travel costs and foreign countries, due to tax regulations) - +1 from my side. The only point we should talk about is food - as a general rule, normally reimbursements should only contain hotel and transportation, but no food. TDF has no rules yet on this, but maybe we should limit it to that? That's an odd rule. A reimbursement for a guest or for an emissary should include Travel, Accommodation and Living. The only place in recent memory that has told me it does not pay for Living is TDF. S. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] LinuxCon Europe
On 8/26/11 11:32 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: The only point we should talk about is food - as a general rule, normally reimbursements should only contain hotel and transportation, but no food. TDF has no rules yet on this, but maybe we should limit it to that? In this case, food is supposed to cover the Gala Dinner at the Conference, as the Speaker Package does not cover it (while it covers food during the conference). Of course, I can skip the Gala Dinner. -- Italo Vignoli tel +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 it...@italovignoli.com skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] LinuxCon Europe
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 10:45 +0100, Simon Phipps wrote: That's an odd rule. A reimbursement for a guest or for an emissary should include Travel, Accommodation and Living. The only place in recent memory that has told me it does not pay for Living is TDF. Paying for everything is clearly the ideal. The current financial reality is that we need to stretch and apply our resources quite carefully I think. Most of us eat at home too ;-) Hopefully when we have an actual entity, and a consolidated financial position, and a real budget, and ongoing fundraising etc. we can do better ... ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@novell.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] LinuxCon Europe
On 8/26/11 11:56 AM, Michael Meeks wrote: Paying for everything is clearly the ideal. The current financial reality is that we need to stretch and apply our resources quite carefully I think. Most of us eat at home too ;-) True, I can ask Kendy for support ;-) -- Italo Vignoli tel +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 it...@italovignoli.com skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] LinuxCon Europe
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 4:45 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 26 Aug 2011, at 10:32, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Italo, thanks for your engagement! Italo Vignoli wrote on 2011-08-26 11:04: Including food, I will spend a maximum of 300 Euro. I am asking the Steering Committee to approve this reimbursement. Given that we can pay this from SPI (paying from FrODeV is a bit problematic when it comes to travel costs and foreign countries, due to tax regulations) - +1 from my side. The only point we should talk about is food - as a general rule, normally reimbursements should only contain hotel and transportation, but no food. TDF has no rules yet on this, but maybe we should limit it to that? That's an odd rule. A reimbursement for a guest or for an emissary should include Travel, Accommodation and Living. The only place in recent memory that has told me it does not pay for Living is TDF. Indeed, even the Tax-Man acknowledge that 'reasonable' meal re-reimbursement - during a remote mission - are tax-deductible (i.e. are not a 'compensation in kind'). Surely it is more a matter of 'reasonableness' and 'frugality' rather than a question of principle. Norbert -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] LinuxCon Europe
Hi, Norbert Thiebaud wrote on 2011-08-26 11:58: Indeed, even the Tax-Man acknowledge that 'reasonable' meal re-reimbursement - during a remote mission - are tax-deductible (i.e. are not a 'compensation in kind'). Surely it is more a matter of 'reasonableness' and 'frugality' rather than a question of principle. whew, my thoughts caused some discussion. ;-) Well, I guess it's no secret that being without a fixed job at the moment, I am *very* much in favor of a good and friendly reimbursement rule. I had to stay at home myself from many events this year due to the lack of funding, so I know those pains a lot. :) I am no tax expert, but Norbert is right, there indeed is a rule of some senseful reimbursement - if you have a breakfast for 5 € or 10 € in a hotel, that should work, if you have a breakfast for 30 €, the tax deparment will not accept it, I guess. This can cause troubles not only for the paying entity, but also for the paid person. So, I surely don't vetoe if we cover some basic costs (eating on the road is much more expensive than at home) - but we should check with SPI as the paying entity first what they allow. For TDF rules, let's discuss them when TDF exists and we know some tax regulations for it. Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] LinuxCon Europe
Hi :) +1 For meetings, conferences, training days and stuff like that we would often have an amount for refreshments. In End of Year Accounts or Financial Statements for SMBs (Small-Medium sized Business) there is often be an item labelled Refreshments buried in Other Expenses. Is food not allowed in organisations registered in Germany? It would be a shame because you have great stuff over there. Regards from Tom :) From: Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com To: steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org Sent: Fri, 26 August, 2011 10:45:30 Subject: Re: [steering-discuss] LinuxCon Europe On 26 Aug 2011, at 10:32, Florian Effenberger wrote: Hi Italo, thanks for your engagement! Italo Vignoli wrote on 2011-08-26 11:04: Including food, I will spend a maximum of 300 Euro. I am asking the Steering Committee to approve this reimbursement. Given that we can pay this from SPI (paying from FrODeV is a bit problematic when it comes to travel costs and foreign countries, due to tax regulations) - +1 from my side. The only point we should talk about is food - as a general rule, normally reimbursements should only contain hotel and transportation, but no food. TDF has no rules yet on this, but maybe we should limit it to that? That's an odd rule. A reimbursement for a guest or for an emissary should include Travel, Accommodation and Living. The only place in recent memory that has told me it does not pay for Living is TDF. S. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] LinuxCon Europe
Hi, Tom Davies wrote on 2011-08-26 12:10: labelled Refreshments buried in Other Expenses. Is food not allowed in organisations registered in Germany? It would be a shame because you have great stuff over there. I don't know the exact details, but the example with the breakfast IMHO is valid - if the breakfast in a hotel exceeds a certain value (something between 5 and 15 €), then the recipient of the travel funding has to pay taxes for it. Yep... Florian -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] LinuxCon Europe
OK for the EUR 300. 2011/8/26 Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com My speech at the LinuxCon Europe (Prague, end of October) about The Document Foundation and LibreOffice has been accepted. I have already registered, and I have also found a very convenient flight/hotel combo, but I need to get a reimbursement from TDF as I am not able to cover the expenses with my personal money (and I am not covered by a company paying for my expenses). Including food, I will spend a maximum of 300 Euro. I am asking the Steering Committee to approve this reimbursement. Thanks, Italo -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Olivier Hallot Founder and Steering Commitee Member The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] LinuxCon Europe
+1 Charles. Le 26 août 2011 16:17, Olivier Hallot olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org a écrit : OK for the EUR 300. 2011/8/26 Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com My speech at the LinuxCon Europe (Prague, end of October) about The Document Foundation and LibreOffice has been accepted. I have already registered, and I have also found a very convenient flight/hotel combo, but I need to get a reimbursement from TDF as I am not able to cover the expenses with my personal money (and I am not covered by a company paying for my expenses). Including food, I will spend a maximum of 300 Euro. I am asking the Steering Committee to approve this reimbursement. Thanks, Italo -- Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com mobile +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Olivier Hallot Founder and Steering Commitee Member The Document Foundation -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] LinuxCon Europe
Thanks a lot, Sophie! Sorry for having to route that through SPI, but German tax law is a bit complicated for associations ;) Sophie Gautier wrote on 2011-08-26 16:55: +1 and I'll take care of the SPI side. -- Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] LinuxCon Europe
On 8/26/11 4:55 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote: +1 and I'll take care of the SPI side. Hi Sophie, if necessary I can produce a regular invoice for the amount, instead of having it reimbursed as an individual. -- Italo Vignoli tel +39.348.5653829 VoIP +39.02.320621813 it...@italovignoli.com skype italovignoli -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
