Re: [steering-discuss] Reminder: TDF SC call in CW 20

2011-05-25 Thread Drew Jensen
On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 22:18 +0200, Italo Vignoli wrote:
 On 05/23/2011 10:06 PM, drew wrote:
 
  My email to you was an inquiry about budgets for general show material.
  
snip

  In any case, we should have some 
 budget for giveaways and other small marketing expenses.
 

Hi,

Yes, it would help to have some guidance, perhaps if only towards
general expectations for planning purposes. To re-cap there are three
upcoming events that I am reasonably certain about our ability to have a
presence - OSCON [1] (not sure on size, large) in July, a linux fest[2]
( with ~1,000 ppl) in 2 weeks and another Linux fest[3] in September ( 
1,000 ppl). Of those three I would say that all other things being equal
I would recommend more TDF expenditure emphasis on OSCON, over the two
linux fests. Of course that is contingent on what exactly we could put
together for staffing at OSCON.

Thanks and best wishes,

Drew

[1] http://www.oscon.com/oscon2011
[2] http://www.southeastlinuxfest.org/home
[3] http://ohiolinux.org/


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Re: [steering-discuss] Reminder: TDF SC call in CW 20

2011-05-23 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Florian,

On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 12:02 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 Legally, I first have to ask our board if we (German association) can 
 spend the money that way. Shouldn't be a problem normally, but before 
 you make a fixed deal, wait for feedback :)

Thanks for that ! :-)

ATB,

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Re: [steering-discuss] Reminder: TDF SC call in CW 20

2011-05-23 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Michael Meeks wrote on 2011-05-23 17.56:

Legally, I first have to ask our board if we (German association) can
  spend the money that way. Shouldn't be a problem normally, but before
  you make a fixed deal, wait for feedback:)

Thanks for that !:-)


do you have some details already, i.e. how much money and the destination?

Florian

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Re: [steering-discuss] Reminder: TDF SC call in CW 20

2011-05-23 Thread Italo Vignoli

On 05/21/2011 12:02 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:


So, no general objection to the proposal, but more a new task seeking
for volunteers, to draft a budget plan we can stick to. :)


We should also start discussing some small marketing expenses. Drew has 
spent 50 bucks for a table at a Linux expo, and we should be able to 
refund such a small amount of money.


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Re: [steering-discuss] Reminder: TDF SC call in CW 20

2011-05-23 Thread drew
On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 21:52 +0200, Italo Vignoli wrote:
 On 05/21/2011 12:02 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 
  So, no general objection to the proposal, but more a new task seeking
  for volunteers, to draft a budget plan we can stick to. :)
 
 We should also start discussing some small marketing expenses. Drew has 
 spent 50 bucks for a table at a Linux expo, and we should be able to 
 refund such a small amount of money.

Ah, I never said that - in fact the last email from the SELF organizers
was:

I think we're all happy LibreOffice saved the OO.org effort from  
Oracle doom, and they're still getting organized themselves, I don't
think there will be much objection to comp'ing LibreOffice a booth

My email to you was an inquiry about budgets for general show material.
I'm covering travel and lodging expenses for for 2 of us (~650.00 USD)
and do not expect reimbursement, but I can not cover swag on top of
that.

Thanks

Drew



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Re: [steering-discuss] Reminder: TDF SC call in CW 20

2011-05-23 Thread Italo Vignoli

On 05/23/2011 10:06 PM, drew wrote:


My email to you was an inquiry about budgets for general show material.
I'm covering travel and lodging expenses for for 2 of us (~650.00 USD)
and do not expect reimbursement, but I can not cover swag on top of
that.


Sorry, I have probably confused things. In any case, we should have some 
budget for giveaways and other small marketing expenses.


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Re: [steering-discuss] Reminder: TDF SC call in CW 20

2011-05-21 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Michael Meeks wrote on 2011-05-20 11.27:

OK - I won't make it. However - the ESC are all behind partially
funding Lanedo to work on gnumake (cf. minutes), and it seems we've had
support from other SC members.


basically, I trust the developers, and I see myself that this is an 
important topic, so...



I'd love a final vote on that - and quickly moving to how we can fund
that - preferably not blocking on transfers etc. but funding it direct
from the association, if we can't do that we need to poke SPI I suppose
(which may be harder).


...I have no general objections. What we maybe should do is indeed draft 
some budget plan before we go on and spend money. We have roughly about 
93.000 € on the account at the moment, so we have about 43.000 € to 
spend, not counting in monthly fees, outstanding lawyer fees for 
trademarks, outstanding notary and probably lawyer fees for the legal 
setup. There are many things we could jump in, so having a rough idea on 
what is to be spent and how would be helpful.


So, no general objection to the proposal, but more a new task seeking 
for volunteers, to draft a budget plan we can stick to. :)


Legally, I first have to ask our board if we (German association) can 
spend the money that way. Shouldn't be a problem normally, but before 
you make a fixed deal, wait for feedback :)


Florian

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Re: [steering-discuss] Reminder: TDF SC call in CW 20

2011-05-20 Thread Michael Meeks

On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 10:44 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote:
 the call is now scheduled for
   Sunday, May 22th, 1300 UTC (=1500 German time)
   For your local date and time, see the poll above.

OK - I won't make it. However - the ESC are all behind partially
funding Lanedo to work on gnumake (cf. minutes), and it seems we've had
support from other SC members.

I'd love a final vote on that - and quickly moving to how we can fund
that - preferably not blocking on transfers etc. but funding it direct
from the association, if we can't do that we need to poke SPI I suppose
(which may be harder).

Thanks,

Michael.

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