[boost] Re: Boost 1.30.1 released

2003-08-14 Thread Daryle Walker
On Monday, August 4, 2003, at 10:50 PM, Douglas Gregor wrote:

- Original Message -
From: "Fredrik Blomqvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 4:40 PM
Subject: [boost] Re: Boost 1.30.1 released

Shouldn't the documentation for function and signals be added when 
you're making an official release also?
Yep, we should add that to the release manager's TODO list. We can 
just pull in the 1.30.0 docs, because nothing has changed in either 
library for 1.30.1.
[TRUNCATE]

I read on an eXtreme Programming Wiki web-page that the release 
procedure should be automated with a script.  This lowers the chance 
that the release procedure has secret steps that only one person knows. 
 Maybe we should strive for that.

Daryle

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[boost] Re: Boost 1.30.1 released

2003-08-14 Thread Daniel Frey
Beman Dawes wrote:
At 01:18 PM 8/5/2003, Daryle Walker wrote:
 >I read on an eXtreme Programming Wiki web-page that the release
 >procedure should be automated with a script.  This lowers the chance
 >that the release procedure has secret steps that only one person knows.
 >  Maybe we should strive for that.
Yes. It may be easier to script everything if we move the web hosting to 
SourceForge, which is under active consideration. (The current 
procedures use some GUI steps that don't script easily, and the current 
host doesn't allow shell access.)
What about release candidates? It wouldn't hurt to have someone else 
look at it before calling it a release and it's quite easy to do. All it 
costs is some time, but I think we should invest a few days in more 
stable releases. Also, it's orthogonal to scripting the release 
procedure. :)

Regards, Daniel

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[boost] Re: Boost 1.30.1 released

2003-08-14 Thread David Abrahams
Daniel Frey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> David Abrahams wrote:
>> Daniel Frey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>>>What about release candidates? It wouldn't hurt to have someone else
>>>look at it before calling it a release and it's quite easy to do. All
>>>it costs is some time, but I think we should invest a few days in more
>>>stable releases. Also, it's orthogonal to scripting the release
>>>procedure. :)
>>>
>>>Regards, Daniel
>> Are you ready to volunteer?  It was quite time consuming for me to
>> release this version.  Of course a script and more instructions
>> would've made it so much easier...
>
> I see your point. So, it's not orthognal in some way. But when we have
> the scripting in place, it should also be easier for you to create a
> release candidate. And if "volunteering" means downloading it and
> testing it, then yes, I'd do this.

No, it means managing the next release.

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Dave Abrahams
Boost Consulting
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[boost] Re: Boost 1.30.1 released

2003-08-14 Thread David Abrahams
Daniel Frey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Beman Dawes wrote:
>> At 01:18 PM 8/5/2003, Daryle Walker wrote:
>>  >I read on an eXtreme Programming Wiki web-page that the release
>>  >procedure should be automated with a script.  This lowers the chance
>>  >that the release procedure has secret steps that only one person knows.
>>  >  Maybe we should strive for that.
>> Yes. It may be easier to script everything if we move the web
>> hosting to SourceForge, which is under active consideration. (The
>> current procedures use some GUI steps that don't script easily, and
>> the current host doesn't allow shell access.)
>
> What about release candidates? It wouldn't hurt to have someone else
> look at it before calling it a release and it's quite easy to do. All
> it costs is some time, but I think we should invest a few days in more
> stable releases. Also, it's orthogonal to scripting the release
> procedure. :)
>
> Regards, Daniel

Are you ready to volunteer?  It was quite time consuming for me to
release this version.  Of course a script and more instructions
would've made it so much easier...

-- 
Dave Abrahams
Boost Consulting
www.boost-consulting.com

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Re: [boost] Re: Boost 1.30.1 released

2003-08-14 Thread Beman Dawes
At 01:18 PM 8/5/2003, Daryle Walker wrote:
>On Monday, August 4, 2003, at 10:50 PM, Douglas Gregor wrote:
>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Fredrik Blomqvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 4:40 PM
>> Subject: [boost] Re: Boost 1.30.1 released
>>
>>
>>> Shouldn't the documentation for function and signals be added when
>>> you're making an official release also?
>>
>> Yep, we should add that to the release manager's TODO list. We can
>> just pull in the 1.30.0 docs, because nothing has changed in either
>> library for 1.30.1.
>[TRUNCATE]
>
>I read on an eXtreme Programming Wiki web-page that the release
>procedure should be automated with a script.  This lowers the chance
>that the release procedure has secret steps that only one person knows.
>  Maybe we should strive for that.
Yes. It may be easier to script everything if we move the web hosting to 
SourceForge, which is under active consideration. (The current procedures 
use some GUI steps that don't script easily, and the current host doesn't 
allow shell access.)

--Beman

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[boost] Re: Boost 1.30.1 released

2003-08-14 Thread Daniel Frey
David Abrahams wrote:
Daniel Frey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

What about release candidates? It wouldn't hurt to have someone else
look at it before calling it a release and it's quite easy to do. All
it costs is some time, but I think we should invest a few days in more
stable releases. Also, it's orthogonal to scripting the release
procedure. :)
Regards, Daniel
Are you ready to volunteer?  It was quite time consuming for me to
release this version.  Of course a script and more instructions
would've made it so much easier...
I see your point. So, it's not orthognal in some way. But when we have 
the scripting in place, it should also be easier for you to create a 
release candidate. And if "volunteering" means downloading it and 
testing it, then yes, I'd do this.

Regards, Daniel

--
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fon: +49 (0)241 936737-42, fax: +49 (0)241 936737-99
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[boost] Re: Boost 1.30.1 released

2003-08-14 Thread Daniel Frey
David Abrahams wrote:
Daniel Frey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

release candidate. And if "volunteering" means downloading it and
testing it, then yes, I'd do this.
No, it means managing the next release.
Um, no, I don't feel like I can handle that. Sorry. I'm sure it's a lot 
of work and a big "Thank You!" to you for doing this job, but I think it 
requires knowledge which I don't have. And more time than I have, but 
this seems to be everybody's problem... :)

Regards, Daniel

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Re: [boost] Re: Boost 1.30.1 released

2003-08-14 Thread Beman Dawes
At 04:43 PM 8/7/2003, Daniel Frey wrote:

>On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 17:38:22 +0200, Daniel Frey wrote:
>
>> David Abrahams wrote:
>>> No, it means managing the next release.
>>
>> Um, no, I don't feel like I can handle that. Sorry. I'm sure it's a lot
>> of work and a big "Thank You!" to you for doing this job, but I think 
it
>> requires knowledge which I don't have. And more time than I have, but
>> this seems to be everybody's problem... :)
>
>Just to clarify: I don't meant to reject volunteering to the release
>process in general. It's just that I am sure that I would make a mess of
>1.30.2 due to the tight shedule. Also, I need to learn more about some
>parts of boost that I don't feel comfortable with (yet).
>
>Anyway, if you really think I should/could manage a release, I suggest
>that I get more time and try my hands on 1.31.1 or something similar.

As far as 1.31.0 goes, I don't mind managing most of it. But what would be 
a great help is if you (and anyone else interested) would volunteer to work 
on patches/bugs/issues management.

There are really two aspects of this:

(1) Making sure that patches, bugs, and issues get dealt with. (I can 
provide more details on what this involves.)

(2) Figure out a better way to track patches, bugs, and issues. Somehow we 
aren't making use of available tools; we need to fix that.

Thanks,

--Beman 

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[boost] Re: Boost 1.30.1 released

2003-08-14 Thread Daniel Frey
On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 17:38:22 +0200, Daniel Frey wrote:

> David Abrahams wrote:
>> No, it means managing the next release.
> 
> Um, no, I don't feel like I can handle that. Sorry. I'm sure it's a lot
> of work and a big "Thank You!" to you for doing this job, but I think it
> requires knowledge which I don't have. And more time than I have, but
> this seems to be everybody's problem... :)

Just to clarify: I don't meant to reject volunteering to the release
process in general. It's just that I am sure that I would make a mess of
1.30.2 due to the tight shedule. Also, I need to learn more about some
parts of boost that I don't feel comfortable with (yet).

Anyway, if you really think I should/could manage a release, I suggest
that I get more time and try my hands on 1.31.1 or something similar.

Regards, Daniel

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Re: [boost] Re: Boost 1.30.1 released

2003-08-10 Thread Douglas Gregor
- Original Message - 
From: "Fredrik Blomqvist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 4:40 PM
Subject: [boost] Re: Boost 1.30.1 released


> Shouldn't the documentation for function and signals be added when your're
> making an official release also?

Yep, we should add that to the release manager's TODO list. We can just pull
in the 1.30.0 docs, because nothing has changed in either library for
1.30.1.

> What's the status regarding the new doc-system btw? (too lazy/tired to dig
> through the archives right now ;-)

It's there, and it's not half bad, although development has been a little
slow over the summer. Doxygen extraction has been improved a bit in recent
times.

Doug

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[boost] Re: Boost 1.30.1 released

2003-08-04 Thread Fredrik Blomqvist
Shouldn't the documentation for function and signals be added when your're
making an official release also?
What's the status regarding the new doc-system btw? (too lazy/tired to dig
through the archives right now ;-)

// Fredrik

David Abrahams wrote:
> Version 1.30.1 is a bugfix-only update.  See http://www.boost.org for
> details of what has been fixed.
>
> Version 1.31.0, due out shortly, will contain some changes to library
> interfaces (notably the iterator adaptors library) which may break
> client code.  Version 1.30.1 was released in order to deliver
> non-interface-breaking improvements to existing users of Boost 1.30.0.
>
> Note for Boost.Python users: this release is not compatible with
> Python 2.3.  For information on how to obtain a Python 2.3-compatible
> version of Boost.Python, please see http://www.boost.org/libs/python.



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