Re: [Boston.pm] Pretty Graphs with Perl

2005-12-07 Thread Alex Brelsfoard
OK, so I now have the graph being built and being displayed in my html
through an image tag.
I'm still trying out GD::Graph printing through an IMG tag calling my script
for now.  I will try other methods next.
However, I'm having some difficulty putting dynamic data into the plots.
For example.  Say I read in my parameters handed into my graph-building
script and produce these variables:

# Width of graph
my $width = $param{'width'};
# height of graph
my $height = $param{'height'};
# Y Axis max value
my $yMax = $param{'yMax'};
# Now let's setup the data for the graph:
my @data = ([1st,2nd,3rd,4th,5th,6th,7th, 8th, 9th]
);
# all datasets separated by ::
my $ds=1;  # dataset counter
# go through each dataset one at a time.
foreach my $dataset(split(/::/, $param{'x'})) {
my $i=0;
# Go through each item in the dataset
foreach my $num (split(/,/, $dataset)) {
$data[$ds][$i++] = $num;
}
$ds++;
}

For the sake of making things easier, let's say that each dataset has
exactly 10 integers separated by commas, and there are 2 datasets.  So
$param{'x'} would look something like this:
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10::13,12,10,8,8,6,4,3,1,0

I get a broken image when I try to execute this (with the rest of the code
listed below).  If I manually setup @data it works fine.  But if I try to us
the data sent to the script, then it doesn't work.
I have tested @data to make sure that my info is being stored; I simply do a
print statment and take a look at specific spots in @data, like
$data[1][4].  It it DOES print out the correct value '5'.
I've tried several methods, but for some reason I can't seem to put the data
in correctly.
I know I must be doing something silly and small.
Any ideas?
Thanks.
--Alex

P.S.  Ann, you're probably right that at some point I will need to hand some
of this information to my script differently, as I am likely to surpass the
2048 character limit.  But for now I'm just doing tiny tests :)

Code:
--
my $graph = GD::Graph::lines-new($width, $height);

$graph-set(
x_label   = $param{'xLabel'},
y_label   = $param{'yLabel'},
title = $param{'title'},
# Show the grid
long_ticks  = 0,
# Show values on top of each bar
show_values = 1,
# Draw datasets in 'solid', 'dashed', 'dotted' and 'dotted-dashed' lines
line_types  = [1, 2, 3, 4],
# Set the thickness of line
line_width  = 1,
# Setting the max Y value
y_max_value   = $yMax,
# Setting the number of values to show on Y axis
y_tick_number = $yMax,
# skip every __ values to display on Y axis
y_label_skip  = 1,
dclrs   = ['blue', 'green', 'red', 'cyan']
  ) or die $graph-error;

my $format = $graph-export_format;
print header(image/$format);
binmode STDOUT;
print $graph-plot([EMAIL PROTECTED])-$format();


On 12/6/05, Ricker, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 *  *Does anyone who has/does use GD::Graph know if there's an easy way
 to
 * *embed the output graphs into HTML.
 * *Basically I'd like to be able to print a bunch of HTML, then the
 graph,
 * *then some more HTML.

 [WDR]  The basic techniques are to either

 (a) img href=../graphs/123456789.png
 Generate the graph to a 2nd file named with a random number (for security)
 or a serial number (if no security needed)

 my $thisgraph; # uniq name
 $this_graph = sprintf %s/%d.png, $graphdir, rand($bignumber)
 while -r $thisgraph;
 print qq{img href=$this_graph size=$normal_size};
 put_to_file($gd-png(), $this_graph);

 where put_to_file is something like (from GD::Image png method notes)

  sub put_to_file {
  my ($data, $fn)[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 my $fh;
  open $fh,  $fh or die;
  binmode $fh;
  print $fh $data or die;
  close $fh or die;
   }

 (b) img
 href=/scripts/imagemaker?x=17y=42title=%22Foo%20Bar%22xname=Xyname=Y
 Put the code that decides what to do from the Request in a module, and
 call it from both the CGI or action module that generates the HTML page
 (which generates the img link) and the CGI or action module that generates
 the dynamic graphic (in response to the img link).  Some amount of setup
 work (varies with app) would have to be redone or saved in DB or some other
 place (with unique names!), but at least the code is reused in a module.  In
 this case, you put all the request parameters that the graph module needs on
 the IMG URI, or copy all the request parms to be safe if you don't know;
 since it's a module, it should know. One module, one script could do both
 Page and Image requests, with a arg difference (or HTTP context wanting
 text/html or image/*?) determining which to generate.

 A has efficiency advantages in that any shared setup work for the page and
 the graphic is done once.
  B allows someone to statically deep link or bookmark an image.
 

Re: [Boston.pm] Pretty Graphs with Perl

2005-12-07 Thread Ronald J Kimball
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 09:39:45AM -0500, Alex Brelsfoard wrote:

 my $ds=1;  # dataset counter
 # go through each dataset one at a time.
 foreach my $dataset(split(/::/, $param{'x'})) {
 my $i=0;
 # Go through each item in the dataset
 foreach my $num (split(/,/, $dataset)) {
 $data[$ds][$i++] = $num;
 }
 $ds++;
 }
 
 For the sake of making things easier, let's say that each dataset has
 exactly 10 integers separated by commas, and there are 2 datasets.  So
 $param{'x'} would look something like this:
 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10::13,12,10,8,8,6,4,3,1,0

The code seems to work fine for me, but I wonder why you don't just do
this:

foreach my $dataset (split /::/, $param{'x'}) {
  push @data, [split /,/, $dataset];
}


 I get a broken image when I try to execute this (with the rest of the code
 listed below).  If I manually setup @data it works fine.  But if I try to us
 the data sent to the script, then it doesn't work.
 I have tested @data to make sure that my info is being stored; I simply do a
 print statment and take a look at specific spots in @data, like
 $data[1][4].  It it DOES print out the correct value '5'.
 I've tried several methods, but for some reason I can't seem to put the data
 in correctly.

If you're only looking at specific spots in @data, then you could be
overlooking where the actual problem is.  I'd suggest doing a dump of @data
with Data::Dumper or Data::Dump.

I'd also check for errors and warnings from the script, either in the web
server logs or by running the script from the command line.


Ronald
 
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Re: [Boston.pm] Pretty Graphs with Perl

2005-12-07 Thread Alex Brelsfoard
Just replacing my dataset collection method with your dataset collection
method seems to have fixed things up.
Wonderful.  Now I can really get testing!
Thanks all.
--Alex

On 12/7/05, Ronald J Kimball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 09:39:45AM -0500, Alex Brelsfoard wrote:

  my $ds=1;  # dataset counter
  # go through each dataset one at a time.
  foreach my $dataset(split(/::/, $param{'x'})) {
  my $i=0;
  # Go through each item in the dataset
  foreach my $num (split(/,/, $dataset)) {
  $data[$ds][$i++] = $num;
  }
  $ds++;
  }
 
  For the sake of making things easier, let's say that each dataset has
  exactly 10 integers separated by commas, and there are 2 datasets.  So
  $param{'x'} would look something like this:
  1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10::13,12,10,8,8,6,4,3,1,0

 The code seems to work fine for me, but I wonder why you don't just do
 this:

 foreach my $dataset (split /::/, $param{'x'}) {
   push @data, [split /,/, $dataset];
 }


  I get a broken image when I try to execute this (with the rest of the
 code
  listed below).  If I manually setup @data it works fine.  But if I try
 to us
  the data sent to the script, then it doesn't work.
  I have tested @data to make sure that my info is being stored; I simply
 do a
  print statment and take a look at specific spots in @data, like
  $data[1][4].  It it DOES print out the correct value '5'.
  I've tried several methods, but for some reason I can't seem to put the
 data
  in correctly.

 If you're only looking at specific spots in @data, then you could be
 overlooking where the actual problem is.  I'd suggest doing a dump of
 @data
 with Data::Dumper or Data::Dump.

 I'd also check for errors and warnings from the script, either in the web
 server logs or by running the script from the command line.


 Ronald

 
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Re: [Boston.pm] Pretty Graphs with Perl

2005-12-06 Thread Chris Devers
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Alex Brelsfoard wrote:

 I've got a project coming up that's going to need me to make 
 graphs.  I do not yet know what kind of graph (dot, line, bar, etc.).  
 But I am told that it needs to be pretty (and probably with multiple 
 colors).  The data needing to be displayed will be anywhere from 5 
 points, to many thousands of points.  There will be some times where I 
 will need to have multiple datasets (separated by color) set on the 
 same graph, one over the next.
 I was thinking of a brute-force way of doing this with associative 
 arrays.  But I was wondering if you all had any better suggestions.  
 Are there any good, friendly, tested modules for this sort of thing?  
 Is this a time for Perl tk?  Would this be better off in Java?

Have you looked at SVG::Graph or SVG::TT::Graph ? 

http://search.cpan.org/~allenday/SVG-Graph/Graph.pm
http://search.cpan.org/~llap/SVG-TT-Graph/lib/SVG/TT/Graph.pm

http://sourceforge.net/projects/svg-graph
http://leo.cuckoo.org/projects/SVG-TT-Graph/

http://use.perl.org/~davorg/journal/20979

Quoting from that last URL:

At first I looked at GD::Graph as that's pretty much seen as the 
standard Perl graphing module. But, to be honest, the output 
really isn't up to the quality that you can get from Excel.

Then someone suggested that I look at SVG::TT:Graph instead. And 
it's great. I got some very useable graphs up in about 15 minutes 
(then, of course, I spent two hours tweaking them).

Of course, the catch is that you have to find a way to display SVG 
graphics for the project. If the goal is for this to be served over the 
web, most browsers still don't have SVG support by default, though there 
are good plugins that can be downloaded  installed. These pages give a 
pretty good overview of SVG issues, including browser support:

http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/samples/
http://sdx.archivesdefrance.culture.gouv.fr/gpl/navimages/en/svgViewer.html


-- 
Chris Devers

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Re: [Boston.pm] Pretty Graphs with Perl

2005-12-06 Thread johns
hi

( 05.12.06 09:26 -0500 ) Alex Brelsfoard:
 But I was wondering if you all had any better suggestions.  Are there
 any good, friendly, tested modules for this sort of thing?

despite the somewhat dismissive comment put forth in the SVG discussion,
GD::Graph is quite workable, and can return .jpg .png and others that
browsers have no trouble handling.

colors c. almost as you might dream them ...

 Would this be better off in Java?

i don't think so, buy ymmv.

-- 
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Re: [Boston.pm] Pretty Graphs with Perl

2005-12-06 Thread malia, sean
I've found this module is extremely useful, and they make very powerful
graphs.  
http://www.advsofteng.com/

Easy to install and use. 
I can provide assistance if needed. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex
Brelsfoard
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:45 AM
To: Ronald J Kimball
Cc: boston-pm@mail.pm.org
Subject: Re: [Boston.pm] Pretty Graphs with Perl

Th only problem is that I am going to need to create different dataset and
graph them on the fly.  Writing files out and then shelling doesn't quite
sound like the most efficient way of doing things.  Or am I missing things?

Basically I will have a HUGE collection of data to pull from, then viewers
will select what of that data they want plotted.  Then my app should plot
it.
Make sense?

It's seeming kind of like I will need to try a few of these to see what will
work.
Do you all agree that starting with GD::Graph is probably the best way to
start?

Thanks everyone.  I reallly appreciate this help.  I have a feeling this is
going to be one of the largest/trickiest apps I've had to create.

--Alex


On 12/6/05, Ronald J Kimball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 09:35:18AM -0500, Geoff Rowell wrote:
  Alex Brelsfoard wrote:
  
   I've got a project coming up that's going to need me to make
 graphs.
   I
   do not yet know what kind of graph (dot, line, bar, etc.).  But I am
 told
   that it needs to be pretty (and probably with multiple colors).  The
 data
   needing to be displayed will be anywhere from 5 points, to many
 thousands
   of
   points.  There will be some times where I will need to have multiple
   datasets (separated by color) set on the same graph, one over the
 next.
   I was thinking of a brute-force way of doing this with associative
   arrays.  But I was wondering if you all had any better
 suggestions.  Are
   there any good, friendly, tested modules for this sort of thing?  Is
 this
   a
   time for Perl tk?  Would this be better off in Java?
  
  I usually create data files and shell out to GnuPlot.

 That's also what I do for one of my projects.  I tried GD::Graph and
 Chart::Graph::Gnuplot and wasn't happy with either.

 GD::Graph only allows you to graph two datasets when using two y axes.
 Chart::Graph::Gnuplot, which is a wrapper around gnuplot, has an unwieldy
 interface and makes it difficult to use some features of gnuplot.

 Ronald

 
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Re: [Boston.pm] Pretty Graphs with Perl

2005-12-06 Thread Ann Barcomb
Alex wrote:

 Th only problem is that I am going to need to create different dataset and
 graph them on the fly.  Writing files out and then shelling doesn't quite
 sound like the most efficient way of doing things.  Or am I missing things?

 Basically I will have a HUGE collection of data to pull from, then viewers
 will select what of that data they want plotted.  Then my app should plot
 it.
 Make sense?

 It's seeming kind of like I will need to try a few of these to see what will
 work.
 Do you all agree that starting with GD::Graph is probably the best way to
 start?

I used GD::Graph for a project I did about a week ago.  I've used it before,
but this was the first time someone cared about how 'pretty' the output was,
as opposed to simply how functional it was.  My data consisted of an arbitrary
number of items graphed along time (x) as a bar or a line.

I found that if you are willing to spend a lot of time mucking around with
the colours, and you can take steps to crop your data if it will make the
graph too crowded, the results are not too bad.  They are not beautifully
polished, but they are presentable.

Two problems in particular that I noted were that the legend sometimes
obscures data on the right, and sometimes the calculations for the steps/height
of the y-axis are just wacky (for example: steps of .25 when dealing with 
only whole numbers, or a top height of 2x the highest y-value).  I recommend
making your own calculations concerning Y and forcing GD::Graph to play along.

Also if you have many different items, you may want to cluster them around
your points at the X-axis for clarity by introducing an ignored element.
This makes it much easier to see what is going on if you have (for instance)
5 elements being displayed at each point of x.

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Re: [Boston.pm] Pretty Graphs with Perl

2005-12-06 Thread Tal Cohen
In the past I've tried unsuccessfully to create a multi-part web document
using GD. After getting frustrated, I ended up pointing the IMG tag directly
to the GD script (i.e. IMG src=myscript.pl), passing all the parameters
needed right in the HTML document. The script outputted an image stream to
STDOUT, which the IMG tag correctly displayed. 

That said, I was behind a firewall, and the page was for internal
consumption. I don't know if there are any security concerns creating the
graphics in this manner for an external site. Also, I am sure this is not
the most efficient way of doing it.

I'll see if I can dig up the old code snippet that I had and pass it along
(it's been over 5 years since I did this).

I would be interested in seeing how to create a multi-part html steam, one
that includes both graphics and text. 

Hope this helped.

Tal

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Alex Brelsfoard
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 4:02 PM
To: Ricker, William
Cc: boston-pm@mail.pm.org; Richard J. Barbalace
Subject: Re: [Boston.pm] Pretty Graphs with Perl

Does anyone who has/does use GD::Graph know if there's an easy way to embed
the output graphs into HTML.
Basically I'd like to be able to print a bunch of HTML, then the graph, then
some more HTML.
I've got the grph coming out all fine and dandy.

Thanks.
--Alex

On 12/6/05, Ricker, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Richard,

  At the risk of being branded a heretic,

 Heretic!  :-) (-: Pi, fetch the brazier, would you? :-)

  I would suggest writing such a complex application in Java.

 Anything written in Java _becomes_ complex.  The reason to write in Java
 is if the massive Apache + Struts + JBoss/WebLogic/Websphere
 super-framework is a killer app for your problem, or someone requires
 it, or you have to plug into some legacy Java.  Alex, the original
 poster, should know already if that's the case.

 Alex,

 I've had good results with GD::Graph and the ::Chart:: versions thereof
 -- except when I let the libgd library differ from the Perl version.

 I haven't used plot(1) in so long it wasn't called gnuPlot yet, but a
 shell or Perl that shells out to (gnu)Plot is a classic, as has been
 mentioned previously.

 Alternatively, O'Reilly ONLamp has a nice article on simple graphing and
 analysis with Gnu R posted last month
 http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2005/11/17/r_for_statistics.html
 [OnLamp.com seems to be down at this time!?]  There's even a partial
 interface to Perl via PDL
 http://search.cpan.org/~cavanaugh/PDL-R-math-0.12/rmath.pd , but it's
 not for driving charts; PDL has it's own PDL::Graphics::* modules, which
 is yet another alternative if you have enough data to be worth the
 efficiencies of PDL (Perl Data Language, which uses the FORTRAN
 libraries).

 If you're on one of those Redmond-style OS's, you could probably use the
 Perl Spreadsheet modules and Win32::Ole modules to command Excel to plot
 graphs too *shudder*.

 There's lots more options on http://search.cpan.org/modlist/Graphics ,
 not sure which are relevant to your problem.

 Cheers,

 Bill
 n1vux

 
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Re: [Boston.pm] Pretty Graphs with Perl

2005-12-06 Thread Ben Tilly
On 12/6/05, Alex Brelsfoard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anyone who has/does use GD::Graph know if there's an easy way to embed
 the output graphs into HTML.
 Basically I'd like to be able to print a bunch of HTML, then the graph, then
 some more HTML.
 I've got the grph coming out all fine and dandy.

You have to print out HTML that includes an embedded image, and make
the URL for that image be served by your program that prints out the
graph.

One warning if you shell out in a CGI script: be ABSOLUTELY sure that
you send headers before calling the shell.  A very common mistake is
to print your header then call the shell, not realizing that your
print just saved data in a buffer and then waits to send it until
either the buffer is full or your program ends.  The result is that in
your code you see the header printed before the graph, but Apache
receives graph before the header and gets upset at you.

Cheers,
Ben
 
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Re: [Boston.pm] Pretty Graphs with Perl

2005-12-06 Thread Ricker, William
  Does anyone who has/does use GD::Graph know if there's an easy way to

 embed the output graphs into HTML.
 Basically I'd like to be able to print a bunch of HTML, then the
graph, 
 then some more HTML.

[WDR]  The basic techniques are to either
 
(a) img href=../graphs/123456789.png
Generate the graph to a 2nd file named with a random number (for
security) or a serial number (if no security needed)

my $thisgraph; # uniq name
$this_graph = sprintf %s/%d.png, $graphdir, rand($bignumber)
while -r $thisgraph;
print qq{img href=$this_graph size=$normal_size};
put_to_file($gd-png(), $this_graph); 
 
where put_to_file is something like (from GD::Image png method
notes)
 
 sub put_to_file {
 my ($data, $fn)[EMAIL PROTECTED];
my $fh;
 open $fh,  $fh or die;
 binmode $fh;
 print $fh $data or die;
 close $fh or die;
  }
   
(b) img
href=/scripts/imagemaker?x=17y=42title=%22Foo%20Bar%22xname=Xyname=
Y
Put the code that decides what to do from the Request in a module, and
call it from both the CGI or action module that generates the HTML page
(which generates the img link) and the CGI or action module that
generates the dynamic graphic (in response to the img link).  Some
amount of setup work (varies with app) would have to be redone or saved
in DB or some other place (with unique names!), but at least the code is
reused in a module.  In this case, you put all the request parameters
that the graph module needs on the IMG URI, or copy all the request
parms to be safe if you don't know; since it's a module, it should know.
One module, one script could do both Page and Image requests, with a arg
difference (or HTTP context wanting text/html or image/*?) determining
which to generate.
 
A has efficiency advantages in that any shared setup work for the page
and the graphic is done once.
B allows someone to statically deep link or bookmark an image.
B has efficiency advantages if page is likely to be fetched by Lynx or
WWW::Mechanize or spiders who will never fetch the image.
B has efficiency advantages if the pages will be fetched through Akamai
or client proxies, and multiple users may request the same image -- so
the image will be cached outside your server -- dont' recreate it if you
don't have to; this doesn't apply if everyone is local or every request
is unique.
 
etc ...
 
Bill n1vux
 
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Re: [Boston.pm] Pretty Graphs with Perl

2005-12-06 Thread Ronald J Kimball
On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 04:28:30PM -0500, Ricker, William wrote:

 (a) img href=../graphs/123456789.png
 Generate the graph to a 2nd file named with a random number (for
 security) or a serial number (if no security needed)

 (b) img
 href=/scripts/imagemaker?x=17y=42title=%22Foo%20Bar%22xname=Xyname=
 Y
 Put the code that decides what to do from the Request in a module, and
 call it from both the CGI or action module that generates the HTML page
 (which generates the img link) and the CGI or action module that
 generates the dynamic graphic (in response to the img link).

 B has efficiency advantages if the pages will be fetched through Akamai
 or client proxies, and multiple users may request the same image -- so
 the image will be cached outside your server -- dont' recreate it if you
 don't have to; this doesn't apply if everyone is local or every request
 is unique.

You don't have to recreate the image with A, if you cache it on the server.
What I do is build a string containing the gnuplot commands, and use an MD5
hash of that string in the image filename.  I keep the image file around
for a couple hours, and if another request results in the same gnuplot
commands, I just skip the call out to gnuplot.

Ronald
 
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Re: [Boston.pm] Pretty Graphs with Perl

2005-12-06 Thread Ann Barcomb
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Ricker, William wrote:

 (b) img
 href=/scripts/imagemaker?x=17y=42title=%22Foo%20Bar%22xname=Xyname=
 Y
 Put the code that decides what to do from the Request in a module, and
 call it from both the CGI or action module that generates the HTML page
 (which generates the img link) and the CGI or action module that
 generates the dynamic graphic (in response to the img link).  Some
 amount of setup work (varies with app) would have to be redone or saved
 in DB or some other place (with unique names!), but at least the code is
 reused in a module.  In this case, you put all the request parameters
 that the graph module needs on the IMG URI, or copy all the request
 parms to be safe if you don't know; since it's a module, it should know.
 One module, one script could do both Page and Image requests, with a arg
 difference (or HTTP context wanting text/html or image/*?) determining
 which to generate.

If you opt for this solution, I strongly recommend not trying to pass
serialized data to the script.  Instead, store the data somewhere else
and give the script the means to look up the data.  Otherwise, it is
quite likely, given arbitrary amounts of data, that you will find that
your URL exceeds 2048 characters, which happens to be the maximum length
of a URL in IE.

Personally I prefer to just generate a temporary file if I have to store
something temporarily (the data or the image).  Here I am creating a file
in a temporary directory, giving it a name with the datetime and generating
module (useful for any developer who is looking at files), and a random
string.  Thius is quite adequate for our purposes, but of course it isn't
suitable for all situations.  I have an hourly cron job deleting all files
in that directory which are older than one hour.

- Ann
 
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