Re: [Boston.pm] OT: O'Reilly
Hello Andy, I'm sorry I wasn't on this (off-topic) thread earlier, but I don't have time to read every mailing list every day. I do some casual Perl coding of my own and edited a few Perl books at O'Reilly in the past, but I'm not in the Perl loop these days. So I can't judge whether a particular book idea would interest the right editors here, but I don't mind people coming to me with proposals, and I can forward them to somebody if they look at all viable. great - expect to hear a few questions from me then. I have to wrap up man 1.6, and then I will focus on finishing the proposal. The proposals alias works, but it takes time and sometimes the person handling the alias has trouble deciding whom to send the proposal to. Still, if you list a language it will probably go to the right person. The proposal email is fine, but I wanted to ask a few things *before* sending in the proposal. So far as I know, the O'Reilly editors take ideas from outsiders all the time, and are particularly willing to listen to outsiders who have some connection and some standing in the community. (Although the complex relationships between O'Reilly and some of the people on this list would be scary to try to elucidate.) That's nice to hear - I was getting scared by some of the other replies ;) _ -- 'Problem' is a bleak word for challenge - Richard Fish Muad'Dib of Caladan (Federico L. Lucifredi)- Harvard University BU http://metcs.bu.edu/~lucifred ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] OT: O'Reilly
Hey Ben, How do you feel when you have a nice process in place through which people are supposed to contact you, and customers keep on persisting in trying to get direct numbers to inside contacts? I tend to get irritated by that, but YMMV. Maybe a random editor will be like me, maybe not. I am not trying to go *around* the process, I am just trying to get some advice from someone more in the know than myself, and someone on the inside is ideal to answer two or three stoopid questions before I send things in through the appropriate official channels. I as asking because, yeah, I can also figure that chromatic and Rael are editors there, but I am, indeed, concerned about bugging them out of the blue. Enough said. You must have missed Brian's talk of 'bribing' two weeks ago -- I am not going that far (yet!) =) -Federico PS: given how friendly the ppl at Pearson/AW seem to be, O'Reilly must really be under a deluge of proposals like Uri noted! _ -- 'Problem' is a bleak word for challenge - Richard Fish Muad'Dib of Caladan (Federico L. Lucifredi)- Harvard University BU http://metcs.bu.edu/~lucifred ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] OT: O'Reilly
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 00:50:34 +, Federico Lucifredi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Ben, How do you feel when you have a nice process in place through which people are supposed to contact you, and customers keep on persisting in trying to get direct numbers to inside contacts? I tend to get irritated by that, but YMMV. Maybe a random editor will be like me, maybe not. I am not trying to go *around* the process, I am just trying to get some advice from someone more in the know than myself, and someone on the inside is ideal to answer two or three stoopid questions before I send things in through the appropriate official channels. Well from O'Reilly's point of view you certainly are going around the process, they have somewhere that they want you to start with to reach them, and you want to go contact an insider instead. I have no idea how specifical employees there will feel about it though. I as asking because, yeah, I can also figure that chromatic and Rael are editors there, but I am, indeed, concerned about bugging them out of the blue. Enough said. You might try contacting any O'Reilly author instead to get feedback/a better idea who might be sympathetic. You must have missed Brian's talk of 'bribing' two weeks ago -- I am not going that far (yet!) =) I definitely did miss that talk. Remember, I'm only possibly going to move to Boston, right now I'm in Santa Monica. PS: given how friendly the ppl at Pearson/AW seem to be, O'Reilly must really be under a deluge of proposals like Uri noted! Well, they certainly are popular. (Authors know that any given title is likely to sell a lot better if it is published by O'Reilly than it will when published by someone else.) Cheers, Ben ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] OT: O'Reilly
Hello Uri, I have a bookish request: does anybody have an editorial contact at O'Reilly I can exchange a few ideas with? I am cooking a proposal for them and I need a few tips here and there. BT I'd start with http://www.oreilly.com/oreilly/author/intro.html. been there, done that. What I need is someone to talk to *before* I send them the proposal, hence my hope someone might have an editor's email. and contact manning.com as well. they are open to proposals too. if you can't find the contact i should have some info still. I will keep that in mind, but right now I think this is such a fit for ORA that I have a hard time thinking of going to another publisher. -F uri -- Uri Guttman -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs http://jobs.perl.org ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] OT: O'Reilly
FL == Federico Lucifredi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BT I'd start with http://www.oreilly.com/oreilly/author/intro.html. FL been there, done that. What I need is someone to talk to *before* FL I send them the proposal, hence my hope someone might have an FL editor's email. and contact manning.com as well. they are open to proposals too. if you can't find the contact i should have some info still. FL I will keep that in mind, but right now I think this is such a fit FL for ORA that I have a hard time thinking of going to another FL publisher. i think they don't like unsolicited book ideas as much these days. they probably get hundreds of them and most are useless. send it to me and i can give my take if it is worthy or not. and i can forward it to a some editors i know there. uri -- Uri Guttman -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs http://jobs.perl.org ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] OT: O'Reilly
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 23:35:40 +, Federico Lucifredi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Uri, I have a bookish request: does anybody have an editorial contact at O'Reilly I can exchange a few ideas with? I am cooking a proposal for them and I need a few tips here and there. BT I'd start with http://www.oreilly.com/oreilly/author/intro.html. been there, done that. What I need is someone to talk to *before* I send them the proposal, hence my hope someone might have an editor's email. How do you feel when you have a nice process in place through which people are supposed to contact you, and customers keep on persisting in trying to get direct numbers to inside contacts? I tend to get irritated by that, but YMMV. Maybe a random editor will be like me, maybe not. You could lurk on use.perl.org and figure out that it looks like chromatic and gnat work at O'Reilly. Then contact them and see if they're interested in helping you. You might irritate them, you might get good advice. I don't know. I'm going to guess that they'll tell you to start with http://www.oreilly.com/oreilly/author/intro.html. When your proposal gets there, it doesn't have to be perfect. If they think that it has promise, they'll work with you on it. Note that when I say, it has promise, I mean that it fits into their idea of what they want their catalog to look like. A great idea for something that they have something pretty close to will lose to an average proposal for something that they feel is a hole in their offerings. and contact manning.com as well. they are open to proposals too. if you can't find the contact i should have some info still. I will keep that in mind, but right now I think this is such a fit for ORA that I have a hard time thinking of going to another publisher. ORA may or may not agree. As I noted, the quality of the idea is not the only factor in their decision. Cheers, Ben ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] OT: O'Reilly
Hello fellow Mongers, I have a bookish request: does anybody have an editorial contact at O'Reilly I can exchange a few ideas with? I am cooking a proposal for them and I need a few tips here and there. Best - Federico _ -- 'Problem' is a bleak word for challenge - Richard Fish Muad'Dib of Caladan (Federico L. Lucifredi)- Harvard University BU http://metcs.bu.edu/~lucifred ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
Re: [Boston.pm] OT: O'Reilly
I'd start with http://www.oreilly.com/oreilly/author/intro.html. Cheers, Ben On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 01:52:29 +, Federico Lucifredi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello fellow Mongers, I have a bookish request: does anybody have an editorial contact at O'Reilly I can exchange a few ideas with? I am cooking a proposal for them and I need a few tips here and there. Best - Federico _ -- 'Problem' is a bleak word for challenge - Richard Fish Muad'Dib of Caladan (Federico L. Lucifredi)- Harvard University BU http://metcs.bu.edu/~lucifred ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm ___ Boston-pm mailing list Boston-pm@mail.pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
[Boston.pm] [OT]: O'Reilly P2P 2001
Hello fellow Boston-pmers, I am seeking slides from a p2p-2001 conference presentation. Did any of the brains(TM) on the list attend ? Over and out! - Federico _ -- 'Problem' is a bleak word for challenge - Richard Fish Muad'Dib of Caladan (Federico L. Lucifredi)- [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.lucifredi.com ___ Boston-pm mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/boston-pm
