I couldn't have put it into words in a better way myself. The opinion part that is. The rest is new stuff to me. Med venlig hilsen / Sincerely Martin Malmkvist
----------------------------------------------------------------- Behold the monster with the pointed tail. Who cleaves the hills and breaketh walls and weapons. Behold Him who infecteth all the World. - Dante: The Inferno, verse 17 ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard S. Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "David Brin Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 6:04 AM Subject: Re:Re:Hard-core Sci-Fi and The Matrix > > I'm afraid that I must absolutely disagree with this assessment of _The > Matrix_. The makers of that film have managed to produce a plot and a > storyline which is nearly epic in scale, layered like an onion in its > complexity, with quite a bit of philosophy to boot. The questions of > identity ("Am I really here, or living in a dreamland?") and ethics (are > Neo and the others really terrorists if they feel they can kill other > people in the Matrix without compunction, while trying to save them?) > are significant and deserve contemplation. The end of _Matrix > Reloaded_, with its revelations from the Architect, bring new layers of > complexity to the plot that will have people guessing and pondering > until _The Matrix Revolutions_. Both _The Matrix_ and _The Matrix > Reloaded_ are worth a viewing or three. It is true that Hollywood > produces painfully few decent science fiction or fantasy films (has > anyone else heard the painful news that a sequel to _Dungeons and > Dragons_ is in the works?); _The Matrix_ and _The Matrix Reloaded_ are > *good* science fiction films. It goes without saying, of course, that a > film can never reach the level of complexity and subtlety that a novel > can, but that's why you need to think of it as a different art film. > > Having said that, I'll agree that there are some elements of _The > Matrix_ and _The Matrix Reloaded_ that irked me. Those fight scenes > were way too long, and the produces were way too fond of their > bullet-time special effect sequence. I feel, though, that these are > minor flaws in otherwise outstanding films. > > > On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 20:07, Robert Powell wrote: > > There is a very big difference between what the popular media calls good > > scifi and > > what fans of the literary side call good scifi. Hollywood scifi is about > > who can produce > > the neatest special effects, all else is secondary but still relevant. The > > Matrix was, > > quite simply, a good *Hollywood* scifi movie, compared to its brethren > > (Armageddon... > > *shudder*) But for those of us with who have flown with the Killer B's for > > a while, it is > > just fancified fluff. See it, say 'cool special effects', forget about it, > > and see the sequels > > on video/dvd.. > > > > Rob > > > > At 09:29 PM 5/28/2003 +0000, you wrote: > > > > >I wasn't all that impressed with the original Matrix either. I don't plan on > > >going to see the new Matrix movies in the theater. I'll probably just > > >rent them > > >on DVD. > > > > > >Joe > > > > > > [Sponsored by:] > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > > The newest lyrics on the Net! > > > > http://lyrics.astraweb.com > > > > Click NOW! > -- > -- > Slainte, > Richard S. Crawford > AIM: Buffalo2K / Y!: rscrawford / ICQ: 11640404 > http://www.mossroot.com http://www.stonegoose.com > "It is only with our heart that we can see clearly. What is essential > is invisible to the eye." --Antoine de Saint Exupery > > > [Sponsored by:] > _____________________________________________________________________________ > The newest lyrics on the Net! > > http://lyrics.astraweb.com > > Click NOW! > > [Sponsored by:] _____________________________________________________________________________ The newest lyrics on the Net! http://lyrics.astraweb.com Click NOW!