Re: constatine's 'cross' may have been mushroom cloud from meteorimpact

2003-07-15 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Here is a picture of a cross in the sky:

http://science.nasa.gov/spaceweather/nlcs/images2003/04jul03/McEwan2.jpg

This is from a gallery of noctilucent cloud images presented by the 

http://www.spaceweather.com/

Web site.

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Br1n Comes In Second

2003-07-15 Thread Reggie Bautista
From
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/art-main.html?2003-07/14/10.00.books
or
http://makeashorterlink.com/?X38D21645
Excerpt:

The John W. Campbell Award for best SF novel of the year, meanwhile, 
went for
the first time went to a previous Sturgeon Award winner: Nancy Kress, 
for her novel
Probability Space. Kress' husband, the late Charles Sheffield, had won 
the Campbell
Award a decade earlier, the first husband and wife to be so honored. 
Second place
in the Campbell Awards went to David Brin's Kiln People; third place 
went to Robert
J. Sawyer's Hominids.

Reggie Bautista

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Re: Political Compass

2003-07-15 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Deborah Harrell wrote: 
  
 Couple of years ago at a party, some guy actually 
 asked me my sign...I managed not to laugh, but only 
 just, and womanfully refrained from snapping Off 
 Limits!  ;-) 
  
Astrology is so abhorrent to me, that the first 
time that I thought of Natalia's sign was when she 
was about 1.5 years old. Someone asked her sign, 
and I had to think about it: she was born on the 
same date as me, so I knew her sign. 
 
I once challenged a professional astrologer to 
compute my sign based on my personality: I would 
answer truthfully any questionaire [that did not 
require giving bank account passwords, of course] 
and he had to reconstruct my birthdate based on it. 
He bailed out evil grin 
 
WFC Maru 
 
Alberto Monteiro 
 
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[L3] RE: SCOUTED: Are Americans part of an UnregulatedExperiment?_USA Today

2003-07-15 Thread Deborah Harrell
Here's one I apparently meant to send some time ago-

--- Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
massive snippage 

 This article shows that good reaserch is needed more
 than arbetrary bans on chemicals and technology.
 
 Environmental pollution, pesticides, and the
 prevention of cancer:
 misconceptions [published erratum appears in FASEB J
 1997 Dec;11(14):1330]   BN Ames and LS Gold 
 Department of Molecular and Cell Biology, University
 of California, 94720,
 USA. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 The major causes of cancer are: 1) smoking, which
 accounts for about a third
 of U.S. cancer and 90% of lung cancer; 2) dietary
 imbalances: lack of
 sufficient amounts of dietary fruits and vegetables.
 The quarter of the
 population eating the fewest fruits and vegetables
 has double the cancer
 rate for most types of cancer than the quarter
 eating the most; 3) chronic
 infections, mostly in developing countries; and 4)
 hormonal factors, influenced primarily by lifestyle.

I'll add that viruses (like human papilloma virus)
contribute as well, althopugh maybe they were putting
them in the chronic infection category.
 
 There is no cancer epidemic except for
 cancer of the lung due to smoking. Cancer mortality
 rates have declined by
 16% since 1950 (excluding lung cancer).

I'm not sure where they got those figures; CDC data
tables comparing cancer deaths per 100,000 population
in various decades beginning with 1950 actually show a
slight increase: all ages/all persons 1950 = 193.9
deaths per 100K; 1998 = 202.4.  At ages 55-64 there is
a 'breakover' with younger people having less
mortality now than in 1950, and older people having
increased mortality (but the population is also
proportionately older) now.  However, female cancer
mortality is down overall (I suspect that is due to
improved detection/treatment of breast and cervical
cancers), while male cancer mortality is up
(especially black male, but black female is up too).
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/tables/2002/02hus039.pdf

Certainly lung cancer deaths have increased since
1950, especially in the over-65 set:
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/tables/2002/02hus040.pdf

Five-year cancer survival rates have improved more in
men than women, although lung rates have been fairly
stable, with a slight gain in survival for white
males, and loss for black females.  (Annoyingly,
breast was not listed in this table.)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/tables/2002/02hus057.pdf

[OK, I had to check: while white females have seen a
mild decline in breast cancer mortality, black females
have had an increase in it -- health care access
issues?  So much for my theory about the decline in
overall female cancer mortality; maybe women eat more
fruits and veggies, especially the older ones??]
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/tables/2002/02hus041.pdf

 Regulatory policy that focuses on
 traces of synthetic chemicals is based on
 misconceptions about animal cancer
 tests. Recent research indicates that rodent
 carcinogens are not rare. Half
 of all chemicals tested in standard high-dose animal
 cancer tests, whether
 occurring naturally or produced synthetically, are
 carcinogens; there are
 high- dose effects in rodent cancer tests that are
 not relevant to low-dose
 human exposures and which contribute to the high
 proportion of chemicals
 that test positive...Plants in the human diet
 contain thousands of
 natural pesticides produced by plants to protect
 themselves from insects
 and other predators: 63 have been tested and 35 are
 rodent carcinogens...The focus of regulatory policy
 is on synthetic
 chemicals, although 99.9% of the chemicals humans
 ingest are natural.

Wild animals, including humans, evolved along with
these plants; susceptible individuals are likely to
have died or had fewer offspring.  An example of an
artificial chemical which our bodies apparently do not
handle well is trans-fatty acids, which come from
artificial hydrogenation of oils (promotes heart
disease; there was a recent ruling that foods are
going to have to be labeled with the grams of
trans-fats/serving -- some snack foods companies have
already removed hydrogenated products from their chips
etc.).

 There is no convincing evidence that synthetic
 chemical pollutants are
 important as a cause of human cancer.

But there is plenty of evidence that specific
chemicals cause various conditions, including cancer,
especially with occupational exposure:
arsenic = skin and lung cancer
benzene = various leukemias  lymphomas
polychlorinated biphenyls = reproductive damage,
liver damage, chloracne (chronic skin rash/breakdown),
and probably skin cancer

This 1998 study finds exposure to certain herbicides
and fungicides increases risk for non-Hodgkin's
lymphoma, which has been increasing in Western
societies:
http://www.poptel.org.uk/panap/archives/nhl.htm
...In this study, exposure to both herbicides and
fungicides resulted in significantly increased risks
for NHL. Among herbicides, the phenoxyacetic 

Re: [L3] RE: SCOUTED: Are Americans part of an UnregulatedExperiment?_USA Today

2003-07-15 Thread Jan Coffey

--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Here's one I apparently meant to send some time ago-

Very thurough. Thank you for sharing all that work.

=
_
   Jan William Coffey
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Re: parallel universes

2003-07-15 Thread Deborah Harrell
Still wading through my to read files...

--- The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted:
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000F1EDD-B48A-1E90-8EA5809EC588

Short version: somewhere or when or how, invisible
pink (euww!) unicorns DO exist...(IIRC, Dan M. said
something to this effect last year, although I think
in jest - mostly)

Long version:

...One of the many implications of recent
cosmological observations is that the concept of
parallel universes is no mere metaphor. Space appears
to be infinite in size. If so, then somewhere out
there, everything that is possible becomes real, no
matter how improbable it is. Beyond the range of our
telescopes are other regions of space that are
identical to ours. Those regions are a type of
parallel universe. Scientists can even calculate how
distant these universes are, on average. 
And that is fairly solid physics. When cosmologists
consider theories that are less well established, they
conclude that other universes can have entirely
different properties and laws of physics. The presence
of those universes would explain various strange
aspects of our own. It could even answer fundamental
questions about the nature of time and the
comprehensibility of the physical world... 


...QUANTUM MECHANICS predicts a vast number of
parallel universes by broadening the concept of
elsewhere. These universes are located elsewhere,
not in ordinary space but in an abstract realm of all
possible states. Every conceivable way that the world
could be (within the scope of quantum mechanics)
corresponds to a different universe. The parallel
universes make their presence felt in laboratory
experiments, such as wave interference and quantum
computation...


...Like some of those alternatives, the cyclic model
is based on the idea that our universe is a
three-dimensional brane that bounds a four-dimensional
space. Another brane--a parallel universe--resides a
subsubatomic distance away. That universe is closer to
you than your own skin, yet you can never see or touch
it. 

These two branes act as if connected by a spring,
which pulls the branes together when they are far
apart and pushes them apart when they are close. Thus,
they oscillate to and fro. Periodically the branes hit
and rebound like cymbals. To those of us stuck inside
one of the branes, the collision looks exactly like a
big bang. The hot primordial soup was the energy
dumped into the branes when they hit. The density
fluctuations that seeded galaxies began as wrinkles in
the branes... 

[Vision of neurones of the brain's neocortex, which is
wrinkled into sulci and gyri, as galaxies...]


...Everett's many-worlds interpretation has been
boggling minds inside and outside physics for more
than four decades. But the theory becomes easier to
grasp when one distinguishes between two ways of
viewing a physical theory: the outside view of a
physicist studying its mathematical equations, like a
bird surveying a landscape from high above it, and the
inside view of an observer living in the world
described by the equations, like a frog living in the
landscape surveyed by the bird. 

From the bird perspective, the Level III multiverse
is simple. There is only one wave function. It evolves
smoothly and deterministically over time without any
kind of splitting or parallelism. The abstract quantum
world described by this evolving wave function
contains within it a vast number of parallel classical
story lines, continuously splitting and merging, as
well as a number of quantum phenomena that lack a
classical description. From their frog perspective,
observers perceive only a tiny fraction of this full
reality. They can view their own Level I universe, but
a process called decoherence--which mimics wave
function collapse while preserving unitarity--prevents
them from seeing Level III parallel copies of
themselves...


...So should you believe in parallel universes? The
principal arguments against them are that they are
wasteful and that they are weird. The first argument
is that multiverse theories are vulnerable to Occam's
razor because they postulate the existence of other
worlds that we can never observe. Why should nature be
so wasteful and indulge in such opulence as an
infinity of different worlds? Yet this argument can be
turned around to argue for a multiverse. What
precisely would nature be wasting? Certainly not
space, mass or atoms--the uncontroversial Level I
multiverse already contains an infinite amount of all
three, so who cares if nature wastes some more? The
real issue here is the apparent reduction in
simplicity. A skeptic worries about all the
information necessary to specify all those unseen
worlds...

...In this sense, the higher-level multiverses are
simpler. Going from our universe to the Level I
multiverse eliminates the need to specify initial
conditions, upgrading to Level II eliminates the need
to specify physical constants, and the Level IV
multiverse eliminates the need to specify anything at
all. The 

Toys (was: Reading lists)

2003-07-15 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip 
 And the cousins I saw the most often growing up were
 actually second
 cousins, and they didn't have very many toys at all
 that I remember (but
 the youngest was at least 3 years older than I was),
 but they were
 really good at finding stuff outside to play with,
 and the oldest once
 made a swing for my sister and myself, out of a
 board and a length of
 rope, and tied it to a tree limb, and that was
 *really* cool.  So, as
 far as my cousins went, the ones with the least
 stuff (especially the
 least Barbie stuff) seemed to have the most fun. 
 (But they had more
 dogs than any of the rest of my cousins, and a
 better place for riding
 bikes, and a beach very close to their house, where
 they could get into wet seaweed fights)

A teacher friend and I have discussed how it seems
that many children today have to be entertained
instead of making up their own toys/stories/games, and
how scheduled/regimented their days seem in comparison
to ours-of-then.  Marbles, colored pencils, pebbles
from the beach all 'stood in' for whatever we needed
for the game-of-the-day: jungle animals, soldiers,
spaceships.  Tree-shadow meant forest, direct sunlight
was prairie, fences were mountains or rivers (except
when one had *real* forest with boulders and creeks to
play in!)...

Maybe it was more a case of making do with what we
had, because certainly having a genuine leather
bullwhip that your grandfather had shown you how to
crack! made playing Round-Up or Tarzan much more
fun.  :D

Debbi
who never had 'Barbie envy,' but did covet a richer
friend's model horse 'herd'...  ;)

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Re: parallel universes

2003-07-15 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 7/15/2003 4:01:23 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 
  Unitary Fluctuations Of Decoherence Ergodicity Maru
  (I thought I'd just toss together some terms from this
  article :} - what a lovely word-salad!)
  

You need to top that salad off with a Thousand This Island Earth Dressing.

Ergodisity: of or relating to a process in which every sequence or sizable 
sample is equally insulted, representative of the whole.

As in: Yo mamma in every parallel universe is so ugly..

William Taylor
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Teaching arctic birds to poop on a poet is
definitely a tern for the verse.
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The Periodic Table of Dessert

2003-07-15 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.eblong.com/zarf/periodic/closeup.html


xponent
Yumms Maru
rob


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The Pictorial Periodic Table

2003-07-15 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://chemlab.pc.maricopa.edu/periodic/spiraltable.html

New ways to add sense to the periodic table via layout.


xponent
By Design Maru
rob


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The Boob Timeline

2003-07-15 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.dribbleglass.com/boobs/index.htm

*Approved By Men Everywhere


xponent
Mostly Safe Maru
rob


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