RE: Battlestar Galactica mini series

2003-12-10 Thread Miller, Jeffrey


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  From: Miller, Jeffrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  MNF?
 
 Sorry, Monday Night Football.  The Rams were on, of course...

Ah.. I haven't followed American Rugby in years ;)

-j-
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Weekly Chat Reminder

2003-12-10 Thread Steve Sloan II
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RE: The Case for a Marriage Ammendment

2003-12-10 Thread Miller, Jeffrey


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 Gays are free to marry but the disabled are NOT...

First off, same-sex couples (a misnomer in itself, as gender is not binary..) are not 
legally allowed to marry in the United States.  Second, the disabled are /free/ to 
marry, even though there are obviously some significant financial disinsentives.  
Can't we address those problems with the system, which you outline, with regular 
legislation instead of a constitutional amendment?

-j trollbait m-  

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Re: Letter from Baghdad (crosspost)

2003-12-10 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This was posted by ABFAS on the other list.  I
 haven't read all of it yet, 
 it is very long, but it's quite
 informative/interesting/revealing.
 

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?031124fa_fact1_b

It's a very good article.  George Packer is an old
friend of mine (he's pretty far to the left, just so
people are aware of his politics).  I never met Drew
Erdmann, unfortunately - mutual friends of ours tried
to set up meetings on two or three occasions, but it
never quite worked out.  Very much to my regret, I
must say.

I might as well toss in, as the news has gone public
at my company - I have volunteered to work for the CPA
in Baghdad.  I don't have a security clearance, so the
process is quite slow, unfortunately, and there's no
guarantee that I will be going (tours are for six
months, and I _must_ be back in the country by
September 1st, so the timing will be difficult to work
out), but the possibility does exist.  So you guys may
be getting some first hand reports on the situation.

=
Gautam Mukunda
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Freedom is not free
http://www.mukunda.blogspot.com

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Brin's quote?

2003-12-10 Thread Alberto Monteiro
I got in another list this quote, attributed to Philip Pullman [whom I never
heard]. It sounds like something said by Our Supreme Master. Does
anyone know if there's a Brin quote with the same idea?

 Every little increase in human freedom has been fought over between those
 who want us to know more and be wiser and stronger, and those who want us
 to obey and be humble and submit.

Alberto Monteiro

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RE: Battlestar Galactica mini series

2003-12-10 Thread Horn, John
I watched the first half of this last night.  I guess my first
reaction was:  it doesn't suck.  I was a huge fan of the original
show though I don't think I've seen an episode in 20 years (haven't
picked up the DVD collection yet).  I thought most of the changes
were OK.  I thought the idea that the Cylons/Vipers/etc from the
original show were from a war 20-40 years in the past was a really
cute idea.  I liked them using the original theme music during the
big ceremonial flyby.

I could do without the sex scenes between Baltar and Six though.
That didn't add anything.   And I thought Baltar's character was
pretty pathetic.  I was kinda hoping he would die in the big
explosion.

Estranged father and son?  Bah.

Starbuck was pretty cool though.

Don't know when I'll get a chance to see Part 2, though.  Probably
not until this weekend when I'm recoving from vocal chord surgery
#6.

 - jmh
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RE: Science Fiction In General...

2003-12-10 Thread Travis Edmunds

From: Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: Science Fiction In General...
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 20:17:21 -0500
From: Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Science Fiction In General...
Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:28:05 -0330
-Anne Rice (Blurs the line of sci-fi/one of the most captivating and 
talented writers I have ever come across)
Her Vampire series was first rate up until she began to blend it with 
the Talamasca Witches series.  On many, many levels, her Witch characters 
simply don't work for me.  Most hardcore Rice fans I've met disagree with 
me though.
I don't agree that the Vampire Chronicles necessarily took a down-turn in 
being blended with the Mayfair Witches. On the contrary, I think it simply 
spiced things up, so to speak. I do however, agree with you on the fact that 
the Witch characters don't work for me either. The reason being, they are 
somewhat unbelieveable.


Well, how about these authors.  Have you read any of them?

Robert Heinlein (Stranger in a Strange Land, Starship Troopers, Time Enough 
for Love, etc.,)
I've read Stranger. I must say, I found it tedious to say the 
least.

Iain Banks (Culture Series)
Vernor Vinge (I think he's an honorary Bee) (A Deepness in the Sky)
Dan Simmons (Hyperion and Endymion Series)
Kim Stanley Robinson (Mars Series)
Joe Haldeman (Forever War / Forever Peace)
Larry Niven (RingWorld)
Nope. Heard of a few though.


Isaac Asimov (Robots / Foundation Series)
Well, I have read one of the Robots In Time books, written by (Wu?). I 
found it to be somewhat juvenile, and directed more so towards a smart 
gorilla, as opposed to a Human.

Oddly enough I have never gotten around to touching the Foundation series. A 
friend of mine however has been the proverbial monkey on the back, so it's 
quite possible I might get around to those books soon.


Anne McCaffrey (Pern)
Harry Turtledove (How Few Remain)
Douglas Adams (HHGG)
No, No, and can't wait!!.

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Re: Black Market Body Parts

2003-12-10 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 02:05 PM 12/9/03 +, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Dee wrote:

 Several of us had the beginnings of a talk in chat last week on black
 market body parts and the upswing in people selling off parts of their
 bodies. 

Last week, br police arrested a group specialized in the
organ black market: they recruited volunteers to sell the
kidney, shipped them to Africa, and [there is honesty among
thieves] brought them back.



Does that mean they put them back where they found them (in the donor)?




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Re: Superfluous quotation marks are evil and must be suppressed

2003-12-10 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:16 PM 12/9/03 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
I am tired of all of the unnecessary quotation marks that people 
seem to need to put around various words and phrases.  My
weariness at seeing so many extra quotation marks grows from an 
increasing conviction that they are merely a substitute for good 
writing, by people who don't know how to indicate emphasis on 
certain words or phrases.

Nothing to do with this list, just something I had to share.


Like the sign by the guard's station at the main entrance at one place I
once worked which read


quote

THE WELL DRESSED PERSON WEARS A BADGE

/quote


which used to drive all of us who were tasked with writing the
documentation nuts whenever we had to go to the main building (we worked in
another building, where there was not only no such sign but no security
guard by the door) . . . 



Badges?  We Don't Need No Steenking Badges Maru




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