Re: Victorian Gollum

2004-01-02 Thread TomFODW
 In answer to zMUD question of ever having seen Andy Sirkis, Gollum/Smeagol,
 in anything else, he was in Topsy-Turvy as the chicken walking Choregrapher.
 

That's an outstanding movie. Highly entertaining. Delightful. 



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Republicans Attempting to get Bible classified as a 'Textbook' in CA in Constitutional Amendment

2004-01-02 Thread The Fool
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36386

Group promotes constitutional amendment to make it textbook

A California group has submitted to the attorney general's office a
proposed ballot initiative to amend the state constitution to make the
King James Bible a textbook for public school students in grades 1
through 12 throughout the state. 

A statewide initiative to amend the constitution requires 598,105 voter
signatures to qualify for the ballot. This initiative is not yet in
circulation, but was filed with the state last month. 

The proposal makes the case that the King James Bible of 1611 is one of
the supreme achievements of the English Renaissance, and is rightly
regarded as one of the most influential books in the history of English
civilization, which has served as a model of writing for generations of
English-speaking people, and is an acclaimed literary work of great
historic importance. 

Further, the initiatives backers, who maintain a website, say the Bible
is worthy of study in such secular disciplines as history, literature,
culture, poetry, law, language, ethics, science and philosophy. 

The group wants the Bible used in the schools without any devotional
purpose nor any denominational instruction to accept or reject its
religious components. Students would be furnished with copies at no cost
and parents would be permitted to opt their children out of the study of
the Bible. 

Backers note the U.S. Supreme Court found, as recently as 1980, the Bible
may be integrated into the school curriculum, where the Bible may
constitutionally be used in an appropriate study of history,
civilization, ethics, comparative religion, or the like. 


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Racism: a bang on the head is all it takes

2004-01-02 Thread William T Goodall
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2004/01/02/ 
do0202.xml

As a teenager, I spent quite a lot of time trying to re-educate  
Grandmother. I explained that racism was unacceptable and that she  
simply had to change her views. Sometimes I made myself cry with  
outrage. Grandmother would invariably smile sweetly, sip her dry  
Amontillado sherry and say something even more eye-wateringly  
offensive.

After a while, to her great disappointment, I gave up the struggle. I  
put her views down to a colonial mindset and an understandable desire  
to aggravate po-faced, Lefty grandchildren and we talked about what was  
on television instead.

A few weeks ago, I heard another explanation for racism from an  
American scientist, William von Hippel. For the past decade, he has  
been trying to work out why elderly people are more likely to be  
prejudiced than young people. And if his research is right, it's not  
just because they grew up in a different era, because Blair's Britain  
is a sink pit of immigrant crime, or because old people are brave  
enough to fly in the face of political correctness. A bit of their  
brain is missing.

According to von Hippel and other psychologists working in the same  
field, whatever age we are, our immediate thoughts are formed by  
cultural stereotypes. This means we instinctively think inappropriate  
and unfriendly things about each other. Try it out. However tolerant  
you imagine yourself to be, a moment honestly monitoring your stream of  
consciousness on public transport should prove von Hippel's point.

Freeze-frame your thoughts as they emerge and black men in hooded tops  
are aggressive, young Muslims are potential terrorists and that fat  
white bloke opposite should be made to pay for two seats.

For a highly social species, the ability to keep these thoughts to  
oneself is crucial, so we have developed a special part of our brains   
a mesh of connections between the prefrontal lobes and the limbic  
system  to inhibit and temper them.

A fair amount of attention has already been devoted to this piece of  
grey matter. It has been noted, for instance, that people who  
accidentally bash it often behave in an unrestrained and egocentric  
way.

Where von Hippel's research is new is in suggesting that older people's  
brains often suffer the same sort of damage. They become prejudiced  
because they lack the power to inhibit the stereotypes that form our  
instinctive thoughts.

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Re: Science Fiction In Music

2004-01-02 Thread Dan Minette

- Original Message - 
From: Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: Science Fiction In Music


 
 Has anyone mentioned Rush?
 

Yea, there was a thread on his hypocrisy last month.

Dan M. 

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Re: A Chink in the Armor

2004-01-02 Thread William T Goodall
On 1 Jan 2004, at 11:00 pm, Doug Pensinger wrote:

William wrote:

On the other hand

http://www.consumerreports.org/main/detailv3.jsp? 
CONTENT%3C%3Ecnt_id%20=305449

Apple are, on the whole, one of the better manufacturers in terms of  
reliability.
How'd I know I'd get a reply from you 8^)
I don't doubt that Apples manufacturing is superior.  That's one of 
the reasons their computers cost more.
Their laptops are, according to several comparative reviews I've seen 
lately, cheaper than similarly configured name-brand Windows laptops. 
The G5 and the Xserve are also very competitively priced to equivalent 
Windows machines. The iMac on the other hand does appear overpriced on 
spec, but what value does the form factor and that fancy arm have?
iMac II is coming in January with a redesign to get the manufacturing 
cost down.

Apple's machines are built in the same far East plants as Windows PCs, 
and since Apple spends about 8% of revenue on RD compared to about 
1.5% from the likes of Dell it is quite hard to compete on price.

Why don't they have easily replicable batteries like cameras?
Cameras have a different pattern of use. I definitely need to be able 
to swap batteries in my digital camera in order to keep taking 
pictures. I usually carry a spare set of charged NiMh AAs (the 1600 mAh 
type) and a spare 128MB memory card when I'm taking pictures.

My mobile phone goes on its charger every few days and that pattern 
works fine for it. I'm unlikely to buy a new battery pack for my mobile 
phone when it dies since the list price for the battery is twice what I 
paid for the phone!

 18 months seems like a short lifespan especially considering the cost 
of the product.  I don't think I'd buy anything that expensive with an 
integrated battery.
Lithium ion batteries have a normal life-span of 300-500 
discharge/charge cycles and 2-3 years. Those experiencing battery 
failure in 18 months are exceptions. The Dell DJ (amongst others) also 
uses an integrated battery in order to achieve compact size and low 
weight. This is the same battery technology as the iPod, with the same 
benefits and drawbacks.

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Re: Republicans Attempting to get Bible classified as a 'Textbook' in CA in Constitutional Amendment

2004-01-02 Thread Damon Agretto
Teaching the Bible as history has as much use in
instruction as presenting material from Caesar's
Gallic War, Froissart's Chronicles, or any other
primary source. The bible DOES have a lot to offer in
terms of history; a large segment of the OT is
afterall a history of the Jewish people. HOWEVER, I
would not reccommend that approach to anyone who is
not familiar with how to read history, or have any
background on the bible itself. As a primary source it
should be read critically and analytically. As such I
would never reccommend using the text as a sole source
for the teaching of Ancient Near East history to
anyone below the college level, or without a thorough
background in bible theory. Snippets are fine, but
whole cloth and you run into some real pitfalls.

Teaching the KJ version as literature is fine, and
useful to any english speaker regardless of their
religious or ethnic background. But still I think I
would choose something else that doesn't have the
attendant baggage.

Damon.

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RE: Davidbrin.com blocked by WebSense

2004-01-02 Thread Gary Nunn

 Our corporate proxy is now blocking access to Dr. Brin's web 
 site.. Below is the message. 
 The Websense category Cultural Institutions is filtered.
 Nerd From Hell

It almost sounds like you work for the Federal Government! At the
facility I work at, they block things like Microsoft and other support
related sites that we need, and allow other things like American Idol
fan sites to slip through.  We finally had to resort to connecting to
our home computers via Remote Desktop to get to the support sites that
we need access to.

Just out of curiosity, is www.davidbrin.com being filtered because of
the links that are there or because of meta tag keywords? I looked at
the source of his page and didn't see any references to cultural that
might get blocked.

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Re: Science Fiction In Music

2004-01-02 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 01:55 PM 1/2/2004, you wrote:

- Original Message -
From: Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: Science Fiction In Music

 Has anyone mentioned Rush?

Yea, there was a thread on his hypocrisy last month.

Dan M.
Oh, haha*, I thought he meant this

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/NAJL10201.htm

Alex Lifeson was arrested on six charges including aggravated battery on a 
law enforcement officer, resisting arrest and disorderly intoxication.

Kevin T. - VRWC
Living on a lighted stage
*I kept reading it, not knowing what Dan meant. I didn't see the word his.
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Icky recipe

2004-01-02 Thread William T Goodall
I was looking at some recipes and found this .

Best not read any further if of a squeamish disposition.

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http://www.chinaoninternet.com/cuisine/home/home04/home095.htm

recipe for drunken fresh shrimps.

Drunken Fresh Shrimps

INGREDIENTS

10 1/2 oz (300g) live fresh-water shrimps
2 tsp. soy sauce
3 1/2 oz (100g) scallion white
2 tsp. sesame oil
1 oz (25g) scallions, chopped
1 tbsp meat stock
15 Sichuan roasted peppercorns
2 tsp. strong white liquor
1/4 tsp. salt, or to taste
1/4 tsp. MSG (optional)
RECIPE

	 1.  	Crush the peppercorns and the scallion white together, and mix 
with salt, soy sauce, sesame oil stock, MSG (optional) to make a 
dipping sauce.
	 2.  	Wash the shrimps well to rid them of and sand. Cut off the 
whiskers and feet, wash again, and drain. Place in a bowl and set 
aside.
	 3.  	A few minutes before serving, pour the liquor over the shrimps, 
add chopped scallions and cover the bowl with a dish. Invert the bowl 
and weight it so the shrimps cannot get out.
	 4.  	To eat, dip the live shrimps in the dipping sauce.

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RE: Davidbrin.com blocked by WebSense

2004-01-02 Thread Chad Cooper


 Just out of curiosity, is www.davidbrin.com being filtered 
 because of the links that are there or because of meta tag 
 keywords? I looked at the source of his page and didn't see 
 any references to cultural that might get blocked.

I am not sure how they determine its unsuitibility. Probably a combination
of content and meta tag data.
NFH


 
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Re: Icky recipe

2004-01-02 Thread Damon Agretto
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NFL Wildcard Weekend Picks

2004-01-02 Thread John D. Giorgis
They say that in the playoffs everyone starts over at 0-0 and given my
picking this year, I can't hope for anything more than to be 0-0 again.
So, let's see if I can redeem myself here in the playoffs.

The NFL playoffs are a beautiful under the new balanced schedule.   In the
currrent setup, the entire League is divided into four-team divisions, each
of which plays a nearly identical 16-game schedule.The best team from
each division advances to the playoffs, where head-to-head competition
determines a final winner.Now granted the presence of two
money-generating and interest-generating Wild Card teams is a small flaw in
this ointment, but since it is probably nearly impossible for any Wild Card
team to win three consecutive road playoff games to get to the Super Bowl,
the ultimate outcome isn't that affected.  The NFL Playoffs are a
beautiful thing.

Tennessee at Baltimore - Baltimore is the ugly duckling of the AFC, the
Champion of the AFC weakest division, a winner mostly by virtue of defense
and a power running game.The Titans, meanwhile, are the unlucky ones to
win 12 games but be relegated to 5th-seed status by virtue of playing in
the same division as Indianapolis.The Titans are probably one of the
few teams that can also hang with Balitmore's perennially very good special
teams.While the Ravens should stop the Titans' running game, if Steve
McNair can get the passing game on-track against that rough defense,
Anthony Wright probably won't be able to keep up.   Bottom line is that I
see a Jamal Lewis fumble costing the Ravens the game.  Pick: TITANS

Dallas at Carolina - Speaking of ugly ducklings, this NFC matchup pits
together two teams that would probably have had a very hard time cutting it
in the AFC.Dallas beat Carolina in round one in Dallas, but the Cowboys
have been much worse on the road than at home this year, and Carolina's
defense has, if anything, gotten even better since then.   Pick: PANTHERS

Seattle at Green Bay - These teams met much earlier this year with the
Packers just blowing away the Seahawks in their first of many road losses
this year.   Since then, the Seahawks were eclipsed by the Rams and ended
up as the last wildcard in the NFC, while the Packers came alive behind
some inspired performances by Brett Favre following the loss of his
father which adds up to the Seahawks as the weekend's big underdogs.
But... unnoticed by some, the Seahawks have really come on in December,
losing a heartbreaker in overtime behind a terrible performance by the refs
and losing a heartbreaker in St. Louis after Bobby Engram tripped over a
referee who had fallen down on the field, and playing a very solid game in
San Francisco.   Thus, as hard as it is for me to believe that the Packers
could lose two home playoff games in a row, Mike Holmgren should stick it
to his former team this time around.  Pick: SEAHAWKS UPSET SPECIAL

Denver at Indianapolis - Two weeks ago, the Broncos absolutely dominated
the Colts in Indianapolis in every way possible, and last week the Broncos
essentially took a bye week by resting their major starters.   Thus, the
stage appears perfectly set for us to be tortured another year of moronic
Peyton Manning can't win a playoff game commentary - but it is very hard
in this League to beat up on a team twice in their own stadium.   Plus, I'm
still convinced that Indy's penetrating style of defense is a good matchip
against Denver's finesse running game - even thought they certainly didn't
show it the first time around.Still, I just see Peyton Manning rising
up in the biggest game in his life and giving Vanderjagt a chance to win it.
Pick: COLTS

JDG


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Overpriced Shirts and Irregulars Question

2004-01-02 Thread Steve Sloan II
I'm pretty sure I set the price of the shirt at my online
store too high, so as an apology, I've decreased it from
$19.99 to $16.99. Do y'all consider $3 of profit per
shirt fair?
http://www.cafeshops.com/Sloan3D

As for the Irregulars question, Dr. Brin suggested that I
donate part of each sale I make at my store to an appropriate
charity, as a way to promote my store and do good at the
same time. Which groups do good work preserving wildlife in
general? Which ones are good at protecting the individual
species that are so important to the Uplift stories, the
dolphins, whales, chimps, and gorillas?
And one other thing: Please don't hesitate to gripe at me
if you think I'm spamming the list. :-)
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Meteorite hits Iran

2004-01-02 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.reuters.co.uk/printerFriendlyPopup.jhtml?type=worldNewsstoryID=431728

A meteorite has hit northern Iran causing minor damage to property but
there were no immediate reports of casualties, state radio has said.
It said the impact sent locals in panic onto the streets in the
northern town of Babol in Mazandaran province.

A meteorite which hit Babol on Friday morning caused only some minor
damage to residential units, radio said, without giving further
details or citing any source.

It said the impact was felt up to one kilometre away.

Iranians are currently mourning at least 30,000 people killed by an
earthquake measuring 6.8 on the Richter scale which struck
southeastern Iran on December 26.



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No longer filtering.

2004-01-02 Thread Michael Harney
I'm not filtering anymore.  I've reviewed recent posts in the archives, and
I think I'll be fine for now.

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Re: No longer filtering.

2004-01-02 Thread Steve Sloan II
Michael Harney wrote:

 I'm not filtering anymore.  I've reviewed recent posts
 in the archives, and I think I'll be fine for now.
As fair warning, my last post did have a question about the
best organizations for protecting wildlife, but I'm hoping
any thread that comes out of my question will be positive.
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Pat Robertson: God told him it's Bush in a 'blowout'

2004-01-02 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/virginia/dp-sou--robertson-bush0102jan02,0,4453351,print.story?coll=dp-headlines-virginia

Pat Robertson said Friday that God told him President Bush will be
re-elected in a landslide.

I think George Bush is going to win in a walk, the religious
broadcaster said on his 700 Club program on the Virginia Beach-based
Christian Broadcasting Network, which he founded.

I really believe I'm hearing from the Lord it's going to be like a
blowout election in 2004. It's shaping up that way, Robertson said.

The Lord has just blessed him, Robertson said of Bush. I mean, he
could make terrible mistakes and comes out of it. It doesn't make any
difference what he does, good or bad, God picks him up because he's a
man of prayer and God's blessing him.

Earlier on the program, Robertson had explained that he wanted to
share some of the things that I believe the Lord was showing me as I
spent several days in prayer at the end of 2003.

Robertson also said that this year will be one of extraordinary
prosperity and that God will bless China in 2004 in a way it's never
known before.

God loves China and he loves the Chinese people, Robertson said. I
believe there's going to be an unbelievable spiritual revival taking
place in China this year.

The Rev. Barry W. Lynn, a frequent Robertson critic and executive
director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, said
he had a prediction of his own.

I predict that Pat Robertson in 2004 will continue to use his
multimillion broadcasting empire to promote George Bush and other
Republican candidates, Lynn said in a statement. Maybe Pat got a
message from (Bush political adviser) Karl Rove and thought it was
from God.

A Robertson spokeswoman did not immediately return a telephone call
seeking comment.


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Irregulars: Help me identify a book

2004-01-02 Thread Horn, John
Recently, in a fantasy RPG, our GM introduced a warrior race that I
found very interesting.  They were expert horsemen, human and
somewhat similar to the Mongols or the Huns.  What was unique about
them was that they road small horses, almost ponies, and had spears
attached to their saddles.

The GM said they were from a book he had read sometime back.
Unfortunately, he couldn't remember the name of the book (and/or
series).  To make matters worse, this particular GM is terrible at
pronouncing words (you should see how he mangles some of the names
in LOTR) and even worse at spelling.  He called them Katians but
couldn't remember if that was exactly right or how to spell it.

I'm hoping this just might ring a bell with someone on the list who
can point me in the right direction!

  - jmh

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Re: Davidbrin.com blocked by WebSense

2004-01-02 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 01:47 PM 1/2/04, Chad Cooper wrote:
Our corporate proxy is now blocking access to Dr. Brin's web site..
Below is the message.
The Websense category Cultural Institutions is filtered.

We use a product from  http://www.websense.com/ . This web site filter
blocks about a quarter of the link published on this list.
According to WebSense, they define cultural institutions as :
 Cultural Institutions -- Sites sponsored by museums, galleries, theatres
(but not movie theatres), libraries, and similar institutions; also, sites
whose purpose is the display of artworks. 


Well, the friendly public servants at the Library of Congress have decided 
to block numerous whole domains (including att.net) from sending anything 
at all to them because they claim that they have gotten spam from someone 
using an account at that domain.  I've been on the SF-Literature list 
hosted there since at least 1998 or 1999, and now I can't respond to posts 
on the list or even contact the moderator off-list (because her address is 
also on one of the servers which is blocking all messages from att.net).  I 
don't know if Himself is a member of that list, but Greg Bear is, (though 
come to think of it, I haven't seen any recent messages from him, either . 
. . ;-)  )

And as far as spam goes, as Randy Cunningham commented on his This Is 
True list, It's 2004, and the new anti-spam law is in place. Notice any 
reduction in the amount of junk in your inbox? Neither have I.  In fact, 
if my inbox is typical, if anything, recently it's been getting worse . . .

Frustrated Maru

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Re: Irregulars: Help me identify a book

2004-01-02 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:16 PM 1/2/04, Horn, John wrote:
Recently, in a fantasy RPG, our GM introduced a warrior race that I
found very interesting.  They were expert horsemen, human and
somewhat similar to the Mongols or the Huns.  What was unique about
them was that they road small horses, almost ponies, and had spears
attached to their saddles.
The GM said they were from a book he had read sometime back.
Unfortunately, he couldn't remember the name of the book (and/or
series).  To make matters worse, this particular GM is terrible at
pronouncing words (you should see how he mangles some of the names
in LOTR) and even worse at spelling.  He called them Katians but
couldn't remember if that was exactly right or how to spell it.
I'm hoping this just might ring a bell with someone on the list who
can point me in the right direction!


It seems very vaguely familiar, but only very vaguely . . .

And I'm Probably Wrong Maru

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Re: Overpriced Shirts and Irregulars Question

2004-01-02 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Jan 02, 2004 at 09:53:45PM -0600, Steve Sloan II wrote:

 As for the Irregulars question, Dr. Brin suggested that I donate part
 of each sale I make at my store to an appropriate charity, as a way to
 promote my store and do good at the same time. Which groups do good
 work preserving wildlife in general? Which ones are good at protecting
 the individual species that are so important to the Uplift stories,
 the dolphins, whales, chimps, and gorillas?

I'm not aware of any good wildlife-specific charities, but I think
my favorite charity is also very much in the Brin spirit of regular
people using their innovative ideas to efficiently accomplish worthwhile
goals: Ashoka.

http://www.ashoka.org/

In the last 21 years, Ashoka has invested in more than 1,200 leading
social entrepreneurs in 43 countries around the globe (including the
U.S.), working on issues such as education, healthcare, the environment,
human/gender rights, economic development, and poverty alleviation.
Ashoka is unique in that it searches the world for local visionaries
with local solutions to local problems, whose models can be replicated
nationally and globally.

Here's a link to a New York Times article about Ashoka:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/20/arts/20SOCI.html

Here's an older, but very good, article from the Atlantic:
http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/98jan/ashoka.htm


EXAMPLES:

Investing about $30,000, Ashoka helped Mary Allegretti save more than 9
million acres of the Amazon Rain Forest in Brazil -- that's less than a
penny per acre. She developed the first system of extractive reserves by
setting aside areas for jungle dwellers whose livelihood depends on the
forest. By encouraging sustainable use of the tropical forest, the plan
has also benefited more than 70,000 rubber tappers and 200,000 native
inhabitants in the rain forest.

Investing a total of approximately $11,000 over three years, Ashoka
enabled Jeroo Billimoria to launch Childline, India's first 24-hour
emergency telephone hotline for street children. They also receive
follow-up support services such as police assistance and healthcare.
Launched in Mumbai (Bombay),Childline has answered more than 2 million
calls and directly provided assistance to more than 26,000 street
children in the city over the past four years. Ashoka's investment
amounts to a mere $0.42 per child. The model has spread to 38 cities
nationally and to Thailand. Within 10 years, Jeroo plans to replicate it
in 158 cities in India and Asia.

For approximately $20,000, Ashoka enabled Dr. Vera Cordeiro to develop
'Renascer', an organization providing critical outpatient follow-up
care to poor children who have suffered acute illnesses. It has spread
to 11 hospitals in 5 states throughout Brazil, befitting more than
11,000 so far and reducing hospital re-admission rates by 60%. Her
approach integrates health care, skill building and education services
for children as well as for their families based on multidisciplinary
teams and community support. Since 1998, five consultants from McKinsey
have worked with her organization on a 'pro bono' basis to spread the
model nationally. The first lady of S. Africa, Graca Machel plans to
import it to southern Africa.

For $23,000 Ashoka enabled Ngozi Iwere to develop the first model
program for HIV/AIDS prevention in Nigeria benefiting several hundred
teachers and more than 5,000 youth both in and out of school. It targets
and involves the entire community instead of focusing on small high-risk
target populations. Her Community Life Project works within existing
community networks to develop and aggressively disseminate prevention
and treatment information.


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