Study Shows How Vibrating Tools Harm Workers
Workers who use vibrating tools for hours on end may suffer permanent damage, and two U.S. researchers said Monday they think they can explain why. http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/04/19/health.vibration.reut/index.html It's Not Because They Can No Longer Be Satisfied By Men Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Study Shows How Vibrating Tools Harm Workers
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Workers who use vibrating tools for hours on end may suffer permanent damage, and two U.S. researchers said Monday they think they can explain why. http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/04/19/health.vibration.reut/index.html It's Not Because They Can No Longer Be Satisfied By Men Maru I was going to comment on this, but I won't. Too much danger of sliding down the slippery slopes that descend towards randyness. ;o) Sonja GCU: Oops blush ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Low cal for long life?
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 10:16:08PM -0500, The Fool wrote: They are called telomeres. They are on the ends of chromosomes. Every time a cell divides they shorten. For that to link with what I was suggesting, there needs to be a correlation between faster metabolic rate and cell division / telomere shortening rate. Is there? Do cells divide more quickly when your metabolism speeds up, or more slowly when it slows down due to, for example, restricted calorie intake? -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Irregulars: Solid-state lasers
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 10:47:10PM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 08:04 AM 4/20/04, Erik Reuter wrote: http://www.photonic-products.com/techinfo/sanyo_tech/sanyo_databook.pdf Thanks! Exactly what I was looking for (although for some reason I am having some trouble getting the web page to come up). Google has the HTML conversion in its cache if you want to try that. But you lose the pictures. By the way, note that unlike the other lasers you mentioned, semiconductor diode lasers are pumped by exciting electrons (and holes, if you like). The other lasers you mentioned excite atoms or molecules. -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Forwarded SP@M
-Original Message- From: Ronn!Blankenship [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Originating-IP: [82.225.61.186] From: Libby Dalton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ben Benton [EMAIL PROTECTED] What I want to know is why your name is actually Ben Benton? You've been using a pseudonym all these years, huh? We finally caught you. - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
USDA vs MadCow update
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20040420-052613-8197r Records contradict USDA's mad cow decision By Steve Mitchell United Press International moonie owned propaganda outlet Published 4/21/2004 3:07 PM WASHINGTON, April 21 (UPI) -- A recent U.S. Department of Agriculture decision to block a private company from testing all its cattle under 30 months of age for mad cow disease runs contrary to its own records that show it has tested more than 2,000 animals in that age range, United Press International has learned. The USDA rejected the Creekstone Farms testing plan on the grounds it was scientifically unsound. The Arkansas City, Kan., Black Angus beef producer wanted to test all its cattle for mad cow disease voluntarily so it could export its beef to Japan. The Asian nation has insisted U.S. firms test all their cattle for mad cow before it will reopen its borders, which were shut to U.S. beef following the detection of a Holstein infected with the disease in Washington state last December. In announcing the decision to reject Creekstone's proposal, Bill Hawks, USDA's undersecretary for marketing and regulatory programs, said, There is no scientific justification for 100 percent testing because the disease does not appear in younger animals under the age of 30 months. A more sound approach scientifically, Hawks said, would be USDA's expanded surveillance plan, which calls for testing 200,000 or more cows in U.S. herds that are 30 months of age or older. The department's mad cow testing records, however, which were obtained by UPI via the Freedom of Information Act, show over the past two years the agency tested 2,051 animals -- and possibly more -- that were under the age of 30 months. That's so hypocritical, said Michael Hansen, senior research associate with Consumers Union, the advocacy group in Yonkers, N.Y. It makes it difficult for the USDA to argue to Creekstone, 'We only test animals above 30 months,' when USDA itself tests animals as young as 3 months old. In 2002, the agency tested 999 animals under 30 months old, including one as young as 3 months. The bulk, 841, were 24 months old, but 40 were 20 months, 31 were 18 months, 52 were 12 months and there were single cases of cows as young as 9, 8, 6 and 3 months old. In addition, in 2002, of the approximately 20,000 cows tested, 111 animals have no age listed at all and more than 11,000 are classified only as adults with no specific age given. The testing of young cows appears to have increased in 2003. USDA only supplied UPI with records through July of last year, which leaves out the final two months of the fiscal year, which ended Sept. 30. During that 10-month period, however, the agency tested 1,052 animals under 30 months old. If this rate was maintained for the final two months of the year, the USDA would have tested about 200 more animals under 30 months in 2003 than it did in 2002. The 2003 records also show more than 100 cows with no age listed and as many as 7,000 listed only as adults with no specific age. Consumers Union, along with 12 other advocacy groups -- including Public Citizen and the Creutzfeldt Jakob Disease Foundation -- sent USDA a letter Monday urging it to reverse its position on the Creekstone proposal, as well as to expand its surveillance program to include animals under 30 months old. Hansen said he would like to see the testing program amended to include animals as young as 20 months because infected animals of that age have been detected in Japan and two animals under the age of 30 months have tested positive for mad cow in Europe. The concern with mad cow disease is it can produce a fatal, incurable brain disorder in humans called variant Creutzfeldt Jakob disease, which is contracted from eating meat infected with the mad-cow pathogen. It's amazing that USDA lives by a double standard, said Larry Bohlen of Friends of the Earth, an environmental advocacy group in Washington. The USDA offered a puny compromise to test older cattle for Creekstone farms when the agency itself has been testing some younger cattle for the last 2 years, Bohlen told UPI. His organization co-signed the letter to USDA and plans a demonstration Wednesday at the agency's headquarters in Washington. Bohlen was referring to a compromise the agency offered Creekstone to test an unspecified number of its animals older than 30 months at USDA-approved labs. Creekstone rejected the deal because it has invested $500,000 in building a state-of-the-art testing facility and nearly all of its animals are under that age at the time of slaughter. Bill Fielding, Creekstone's chief operating officer, said he would not classify USDA's offer as a compromise because it did not address the issues of concern to the company. As the USDA is aware, only about 1 percent of our animals are over 30 months, so testing them does nothing for our business and is not what our customers are asking for, Fielding told UPI. He added that he
Weekly Chat Reminder
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US, or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about three hours ago. There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page for help getting there: http://www.brin-l.org/brinmud.html __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Low cal for long life?
-- From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 10:16:08PM -0500, The Fool wrote: They are called telomeres. They are on the ends of chromosomes. Every time a cell divides they shorten. For that to link with what I was suggesting, there needs to be a correlation between faster metabolic rate and cell division / telomere shortening rate. In either case telomere length is the determining factor for how long the individual cell lives. Is there? Do cells divide more quickly when your metabolism speeds up, or more slowly when it slows down due to, for example, restricted calorie intake? It's likely that increases in metabolism also increase the production of waste products / free radicals which damage cells. But there are also some systemic effects. Scientists have created a Methuselah mouse, that has lived more than four years (normal mice die by 2) in is healthy. They engineered changes to limit the production of insulin. The mouse is smaller than normal and cold, but otherwise still healthy. Therefore there seems to be correlation with insulin production and longevity (which is what these new diets attempt--Atkins, southbeach, Zone--that all try to limit production of insulin, consumption of simple-carbs). Insulin certainly affects the growth rate of fat cells. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Feel Like I'm Fixing To Die Rag - Revisited
Come on all of you big strong men Uncle Sam needs your help again he's got himself in a terrible crack way down yonder in ole Iraq So put down your books and pick up a gun we're gonna have a whole lotta fun And it's one, two, three, what are we fighting for don't ask me I don't give a crap, next stop's Bush's Iraq And it's five, six, seven, open up the pearly gates ain't no time to wonder why, whoopee we're all gonna die Come on generals, let's move fast your big chance has come at last now you can go out and kill ragheads cos the only good Moslem is the one that's dead and you know that peace can only be won when we've blown 'em all to kingdom come And it's one, two, three, what are we fighting for don't ask me I don't give a crap, next stop's Bush's Iraq And it's five, six, seven, open up the pearly gates ain't no time to wonder why, whoopee we're all gonna die Come on wall street don't be slow Fox will report it blow by blow there's plenty good money to be made by supplying the army with the tools of its trade let's hope and pray that if they drop the bomb, they drop it on a loudmouth Iman And it's one, two, three, what are we fighting for don't ask me I don't give a crap, next stop's Bush's Iraq And it's five, six, seven, open up the pearly gates ain't no time to wonder why, whoopee we're all gonna die Come on mothers throughout the land pack your boys off for Uncle Sam come on fathers don't hesitate send your sons off before it's too late and you can be the first ones on your block to have your boy come home in a box And it's one, two, three, what are we fighting for don't ask me I don't give a crap, next stop's Bush's Iraq And it's five, six, seven, open up the pearly gates ain't no time to wonder why, whoopee we're all gonna die xponent Old Protest Songs Never Die Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Rumsfelds' Web of Lies Starts Unraveling
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A30384-2004Apr21?language=print er That Woodward Magic By Dan Froomkin Special to washingtonpost.com Wednesday, April 21, 2004; 10:18 AM How does he do it? That's one of the questions you hear a lot as Washington conversation continues to be consumed by Bob Woodward's new book about President Bush's march to war in Iraq. How does Woodward get these tight-lipped Bush administration types (including Bush himself!) to talk to him in the first place -- and then to open up? The Defense Department on Monday Web-published the transcripts of two on-the-record interviews Woodward conducted with Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld late last year, offering up a revealing look at how Woodward works his sources. But even more revelatory is the fact that someone over there deleted some of the most important bits! Apparently, part of the experience of being interviewed with Woodward is having some regrets afterward. Mike Allen writes in The Washington Post today: The Pentagon deleted from a public transcript a statement Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld made to author Bob Woodward suggesting that the administration gave Saudi Arabia a two-month heads-up that President Bush had decided to invade Iraq. . . . Woodward supplied his own transcript showing that Rumsfeld told him on Oct. 23, 2003: 'I remember meeting with the vice president and I think Dick Myers and I met with a foreign dignitary at one point and looked him in the eye and said you can count on this. In other words, at some point we had had enough of a signal from the president that we were able to look a foreign dignitary in the eye and say you can take that to the bank this is going to happen.' This is a big deal because one of the most eye-popping scenes in the book takes place in January 2003 in Vice President Cheney's West Wing office, where Rumsfeld and others show Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the Saudi ambassador to Washington, a top-secret map showing how the war plan would unfold. You can count on this, Woodward quotes Rumsfeld as saying, pointing to the map. You can take that to the bank. This is going to happen. That's about two months before the White House previously acknowledged it had decided to go to war and, according to Woodward's book, it's even before Secretary of State Colin L. Powell got the word from Bush. The Post helpfully reprints, from Woodward's transcript of the on-the-record interview, some of the missing bits. ... http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A28866-2004Apr20?language=print er --- The Deleted Text Wednesday, April 21, 2004; Page A15 The Pentagon removed the following text from Bob Woodward's Oct. 23 interview with Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld before posting the transcript on the Web: Question: Because these countries, Jordan particularly, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait needless to say made giant commitments and you know hung it all out and I think there are times in the last week where I think March 14th the Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar came up here to talk to you because he was worried. I think he had seen the President, that we weren't going to go. You recall that? Rumsfeld: I met with him on occasion. Q: And I think the President said don't start -- not you. Rumsfeld: Have you met with the Vice President? You're not going to meet with the Vice President are you? Q: Well I hope so. Rumsfeld: I doubt it. Q: You know better than I. Rumsfeld: I remember meeting with the Vice President and I think [Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff] and I met with a foreign dignitary at one point and looked him in the eye and said you can count on this. In other words at some point we had had enough of a signal from the President that we were able to look a foreign dignitary in the eye and say you can take that to the bank this is going to happen. Q: Do you remember when that was? Rumsfeld: I do not. But I can't tell you who it was but I remember it was the Vice President, Dick Myers and me. Q: [Was] that when Myers gave the briefing to Bandar in Cheney's office because I think you were there. Rumsfeld: When was that? Q: I have the date -- it was in February I think or maybe it was late January. Rumsfeld: Sounds early. Q: Sounds early yeah. It struck me as early too and it could be later in February. I don't have it on my list here. Rumsfeld: We're going to have to clean some of this up in the transcript when you publish it. We'll give you a -- I mean you just said Bandar and I didn't agree with that so we're going to have to -- I don't want to say who it is but you are going to have to go through that and find a way to clean up my language too. http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/21/rumsfeld.woodward/ Pentagon deleted key comment from Rumsfeld transcript Woodward 'surprised' by move From Jamie McIntyre CNN Washington Bureau Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was interviewed by Bob Woodward for his new book.
Re: Low cal for long life?
-- From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 06:06:23PM -0500, The Fool wrote: Erik wrote: For that to link with what I was suggesting, there needs to be a correlation between faster metabolic rate and cell division / telomere shortening rate. Is there? In either case telomere length is the determining factor for how long the individual cell lives. That does not answer the question. Insulin certainly affects the growth rate of fat cells. Huh? What do you mean exactly by growth rate, and what does that have to do with whether a faster metabolic rate results in increased rate of telomere shortening? --- When you eat food it is converted into glucose, raising the amount of glucose in the blood. The Body uses that glucose or raises the amount of Insulin in the blood which converts the glucose into fat. Cells have receptors for insulin, which allows them to regulate how fat is stored. Metabolic rate is the rate that you burn calories, which is directly related to blood sugar / insulin levels. Muscle / fat mass affects the metabolic rate. Caloric-restriction directly effects the blood-sugar / insulin system. The Methuselah mouse longevity is also affected by insulin levels. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
