Re: Amazing-but-True Facts

2005-04-01 Thread dland
On Mar 31, 2005, at 10:18 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:

 ==
A M A Z I N G - B U T - T R U EF A C T S
 ==

They'd be more amazing if they were, in fact, true.

 * The brand name Jelly Belly was created in 1982 after Nancy
   Reagan made a much-publicized quip about her husband's
   20-pound weight gain.

Except for the fact that Jelly Bellies have been around since
1976, at least according to their web site.

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Re: reality glitches

2005-04-01 Thread Gary Denton
On Mar 29, 2005 8:51 AM, Alan Ackley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Everyone,

Hi,

 
 David Brin mailed me the contact info for this mailing list group a few days
 back, and although I've no idea how this will connect with any past
 discussions, I thought I'd toss this little pebble in the pond;
 
 I had a weird reality glitch reminiscent of the Matrix movie;
snip

Treating this seriously - 

A number of years ago I had several reality glitches like you
experienced when I was under stress and thinking my world was changing
for the worse.

I finally decided to play with the hypothesis that I was exchanging
places within the multiverse of infinite worlds and the external world
I was in adjusted to fit my internal karma.

After getting in a better mood the worst changes, mutants moving in
down the street, the disappearance of some of my things when I knew
where they were, seemed to go away and I forgot about it.

Your post has made me realize it continued.  I've moved into a world
where a prep school moron President's disastrous war, national
bankruptcy, erosion of liberties, corporate takeover of government,
environmental destruction, squandering our economic and moral
leadership in the world, systematic lying, and waging war on our
unemployed, our children's health, and our minimum wage workers would
be of no concern to the electorate.  And the Republicans would win by
correctly seeing that the chief concern of the electorate was to keep
gay couples from getting married and having abortions.

I wish to apologise to any of you others I may have brought to this
world with me.

-- 
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How the Grinch Stole Marriage
http://elemming2.blogspot.com
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Re: Time on TV

2005-04-01 Thread Gary Denton
On Mar 29, 2005 6:14 PM, John DeBudge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   6 BEST DRAMAS ON TV NOW
   And the shows are:-
  
   Deadwood
   Veronica Mars
 
 Interesting note for people who do not watch both. The actress who
 plays Veronica Mars was also in a couple of Deadwood episodes.
 Needless to say, the differences between the two shows are rather
 striking.
 
 I am surprised that Carnivale is not on this list. It is at least on
 par with Deadwood, and I would definitely say it surpasses Battlestar
 and Veronica Mars in quality (I have not seen the other shows so I
 withhold judgement).
 
 Also just as a side comment, I grow more saddened each year at the
 number of quality shows on cable that can never see air time on
 network tv (unless they are rather heavily edited). I guess thats what
 you get when the FCC enforces the lowest common denominator.

Don't involve government when the networks do it themselves.

-- 
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Re: Amazing-but-True Facts

2005-04-01 Thread Erik Reuter
* Ronn!Blankenship ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 00:18:31 -0600

That was 18 minutes and 30 seconds late! For shame, Ronn!

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Re: Amazing-but-True Facts

2005-04-01 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 05:01 AM Friday 4/1/2005, Erik Reuter wrote:
* Ronn!Blankenship ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 00:18:31 -0600
That was 18 minutes and 30 seconds late! For shame, Ronn!

Sometimes messages get held up in transmission rather than being delivered 
immediately after they are sent . . .

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Time, reality, and preception. (was: the question of reality glitches)

2005-04-01 Thread Nick Lidster


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Alan Ackley
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:02 AM
To: Brin-L@mccmedia.com
Subject: the question of reality glitches

On reality glitches;  Aside from proving anything, I have a question or 
three;
1)  Can the past be changed?  (or does time have more than one
dimension?)
2)  If so, can it be changed so that two or more people have differing 
memories?
3)  What effects do recording have?

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RE: the question of reality glitches

2005-04-01 Thread Nick Lidster


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Alan Ackley
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:02 AM
To: Brin-L@mccmedia.com
Subject: the question of reality glitches

On reality glitches;  Aside from proving anything, I have a question or 
three;
1)  Can the past be changed?  (or does time have more than one
dimension?)
2)  If so, can it be changed so that two or more people have differing 
memories?
3)  What effects do recording have?
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I went into some relative areas before about this, not dealing with reality
in its self, though it can be easily expanded into. I'm not sure if I ever
covered this on the list but ill do one up here now.


Reality:
1.  The quality or state of being actual or true.
2.  One, such as a person, an entity, or an event, that is actual: the
weight of history and political realities (Benno C. Schmidt, Jr.). 
3.  The totality of all things possessing actuality, existence, or
essence.
4.  That which exists objectively and in fact: Your observations do not
seem to be about reality. 
Truth:
1.  Conformity to fact or actuality.
2.  A statement proven to be or accepted as true.
3.  Sincerity; integrity.
4.  Fidelity to an original or standard.
5.  
a.  Reality; actuality.
b.  often Truth That which is considered to be the supreme reality and
to have the ultimate meaning and value of existence.
Time:
a.  .  A nonspatial continuum in which events occur in apparently
irreversible succession from the past through the present to the future.
b.  An interval separating two points on this continuum; a duration: a
long time since the last war; passed the time reading. 
c.  A number, as of years, days, or minutes, representing such an
interval: ran the course in a time just under four minutes. 
d.  A similar number representing a specific point on this continuum,
reckoned in hours and minutes: checked her watch and recorded the time, 6:17
A.M. 
e.  A system by which such intervals are measured or such numbers are
reckoned: solar time. 
a.  .  An interval, especially a span of years, marked by similar
events, conditions, or phenomena; an era. Often used in the plural: hard
times; a time of troubles. 
b.  times The present with respect to prevailing conditions and trends:
You must change with the times. 
.  A suitable or opportune moment or season: a time for taking stock of
one's life. 
a.  .  Periods or a period designated for a given activity: harvest
time; time for bed. 
b.  Periods or a period necessary or available for a given activity: I
have no time for golf. 
c.  A period at one's disposal: Do you have time for a chat? 

Human memory is a very interesting and deceitful thing. Though we may
believe that what remember is the exact and unaltered truth of what we saw,
done, read, in the past it does not make it so. It has been documented
through several experiments that over a given time the suggestibility of
human memory will cause a change in our long and short term memory.
Sometimes the most unreliable thing to have in a police investigation is an
eyewitness. Dealing with memories of a event with multiple eyewitnesses
comes down in some terms that of having to use the process of observation
defined in quantum astronomy. Where an object must be viewed by several
different observing devices and combined in order to see the actual object
for what it is.  i.e. We take 100  people and get them to look at a basket
ball bouncing on a court. Then take tem in separate rooms and get them to
describe the ball and its actions, you will get 100 different observations
of the ball. Combing these 100 different observations we will get a more
complete and accurate observation of what the basketball actually looked
like while bouncing on the court. 

To observe is to change the object in question by adding the observer to the
observation then a more accurate image can be created. Simple enough right.
Nope. No matter how many observations are done we will never get a complete
and fully accurate picture of the ball, let alone what the ball was doing.
Was it bouncing? Was it rolling? The entire problem is that of those 100
people 1 person could accurately see and describe the ball, and another the
way the ball bounced. The other 98 people will have varying observations
that will distort the purity of the image of the combined 2 observers.

Truth, I heard it once being described as, As long as the subject believes
that what he says is the truth then to him it will be the truth, regardless
to what everyone else has seen, and what the tape shows.

It reminds me of Plato's Cave theory. I found a relatively good explanation
of it here http://theosophy.org/tlodocs/AllegoryoftheCave.htm . i have
included a excerpt below.

The allegory begins with a graphic picture of the pathetic condition of the
majority 

tower of Babel theory

2005-04-01 Thread Alan Ackley
My theory of the tower of Babel; (a modification of the theory in John 
Keel's Eighth Tower).

The Babylonians were building a tower to reach to the sky, and when God, 
(or in this case, the Elohim) decided to end this form of human progress, 
the method used also had the effect of causing multiple languages to occur.  
Keel suggested that somewhere in the middle east, inside some unspecified 
stone monument, (the big stone in Mecca?) is a generator which has affected 
the mentality of mankind from then until now.  Undoubtedly using ELF waves 
(extra low frequency) this hypothetical device must still be in operation, 
and constantly interferes with human communication abilities contributing to 
war and strife worldwide.

A radar jammer will pick up the radar frequency being used and will then 
broadcast a signal on the same frequency, but 180 degrees out of phase.   
Similarly I suspect a device which picks up broadcasts of human 
consciousness then rebroadcasts a wave 180 degrees (in opposition, to cancel 
or overrride) out of phase.   One possible effect of this is to block human 
telepathy.  If the odds are 50/50 that you will recieve the truth or it's 
opposite, the telepathic link becomes useless, thus humans must fall back on 
the backup method of uttering sounds.  Hypothesizing that pre-Babel humans 
were telepathic, but separate tribes also used local verbal signs, then when 
telepathy was blocked, only the widely variant tribal verbalizations 
remained.

One odd observation relating to this;  I've noted when I am meditating or 
deeply into writing or other deep mental states, I very often find the 
imagined position of my body to be reversed; ie, I awake to find I am faced 
North, when in the dream-state I was facing South, 180 degrees out of phase 
with my actual position.

Another aside;  for a while in the '70s and '80s some reserchers believed 
that Russians were beaming ELF at the USA from giant low frequency Tesla 
coils in Siberia.  Rumor had it that a lot of the beams were focused for 
some unknown reason at Oregon.  Of course the HAARP project and other huge 
phased array antenna sites may also have the ability to generate waves that 
directly affect the mass consciousness of humans.  There is no evidence this 
is being done, but the capability is growing.
I suspect such a use would require massive computers to be controlling the 
antenna output (such as is being done in Alaska with HAARP).   Would hate to 
see what advanced black magician types might do with this type of stuff.   
(but, hey, my theory IS that the Babble generator is just such an ancient 
black project, and still operates.)

On the good side;  to grow a population with immunity, you subject them to 
an environment full of the toxin.  if we, (humanity) have been in the toxic 
presence of the Babble generator for thousands of years, perhaps we will or 
are generating a population that has a natural resistance to such 
interference.

Alan.
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Babel theory link

2005-04-01 Thread Alan Ackley
Link to a paper discussing low frequency interference with consciousness;
http://www.geocities.com/nwbotanicals1/oak/newphysics/schumann.htm
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Re: tower of Babel theory

2005-04-01 Thread Dave Land
Honey? Where's my razor?
   -- Occam.
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Re: reality glitches

2005-04-01 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Apr 1, 2005, at 1:36 AM, Gary Denton wrote:
I wish to apologise to any of you others I may have brought to this
world with me.
That was you? You bastard! Stop observing the universe! You're 
influencing it way too much with your pessimism!

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Re: reality glitches--QM

2005-04-01 Thread Dan Minette

- Original Message - 
From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: reality glitches


 On Apr 1, 2005, at 1:36 AM, Gary Denton wrote:

  I wish to apologise to any of you others I may have brought to this
  world with me.

 That was you? You bastard! Stop observing the universe! You're
 influencing it way too much with your pessimism!

I haven't heard much from you since I started my QM tutorial.  Did it make
sense and give you something to mull over or wasn't I clear enough.

Dan M.


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Re: reality glitches--QM

2005-04-01 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Apr 1, 2005, at 12:04 PM, Dan Minette wrote:
I haven't heard much from you since I started my QM tutorial.  Did it 
make
sense and give you something to mull over or wasn't I clear enough.
Oh, I'm chewing it over. ;) Thanks again for all the work you've put in 
on it. I'm sure that I'll comment on *something* eventually. (That's a 
safe bet...)

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Re: tower of Babel theory

2005-04-01 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 10:37 AM Friday 4/1/2005, Alan Ackley wrote:
My theory of the tower of Babel; (a modification of the theory in John 
Keel's Eighth Tower).

The Babylonians were building a tower to reach to the sky, and when 
God, (or in this case, the Elohim) decided to end this form of human 
progress, the method used also had the effect of causing multiple 
languages to occur.
Keel suggested that somewhere in the middle east, inside some unspecified 
stone monument, (the big stone in Mecca?) is a generator which has 
affected the mentality of mankind from then until now.

Leading one to wonder aloud if said Mr. Keel has been standing too close to 
said stone monument for too long . . .

--Ronn! :)
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Re: Amazing-but-True Facts

2005-04-01 Thread Max Battcher
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
* In the late '90s, Microsoft secretly developed its own version
  of Linux, but shelved it after quality control researchers
  deemed it too stable.
I can debunk this one.  First of all: 70s/80s, Unix not Linux, Not 
Secret.  During the Unix Wars when there were a large number of Unix 
versions with different names Microsoft ported one to certain PC flavors 
named Xenix.  Microsoft had no intention of selling it themselves, but 
subsequently resold licenses to Xenix to several smaller companies and 
OEMs to market and sell themselves.

The best selling Xenix distribution was SCO Xenix.  SCO is well known 
now for being litigious bastards.  Eventually they ended up purchasing 
the last remaining remnants of the original ATT Unix properties, well 
after the Unix source and brand had been too widely diffused, and then 
used those patents and copyrights to sue just about every other Unix 
distribution.

http://www.unix.org/what_is_unix/history_timeline.html
http://www.ugu.com/sui/ugu/show?I=xenix.historyF=11G=Y
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http://www.worldmaker.net/
The WorldMaker.Network: Now more Caffeinated!
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Re: tower of Babel theory

2005-04-01 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Apr 1, 2005, at 9:37 AM, Alan Ackley wrote:
Keel suggested that somewhere in the middle east, inside some 
unspecified stone monument, (the big stone in Mecca?) is a generator 
which has affected the mentality of mankind from then until now.
The stone at Mecca is not big. It's a meteorite fragment that is small 
and light enough that four men can carry it by placing it in the center 
of a rug, gripping the rug at its corners. Muhammad himself proved 
that; it was how he prevented a tribal dispute.

There's no way a meteoric chunk of stone small enough to be carried by 
a procession of pallbearers could contain any sort of radar or any 
other kind of mind-affecting generator.

The effects the stone has upon the minds of believers are sourced in 
the minds of those believers, nowhere else.

Undoubtedly using ELF waves (extra low frequency) this hypothetical 
device must still be in operation, and constantly interferes with 
human communication abilities contributing to war and strife 
worldwide.
So god jammed our freqs and is continuing to do so? Why? Out of 
spite? Or is it satan instead -- and if so, why did god let it 
happen?

Or is it more parsimonious to suggest that the Babel myth is a just-so 
story used to explain the variety of languages in the world?

A radar jammer will pick up the radar frequency being used and will 
then broadcast a signal on the same frequency, but 180 degrees out of 
phase.   Similarly I suspect a device which picks up broadcasts of 
human consciousness then rebroadcasts a wave 180 degrees (in 
opposition, to cancel or overrride) out of phase.
In that case, there should be no human consciousness.
One possible effect of this is to block human telepathy.
Or perhaps there's no evidence of human telepathy for a much simpler 
reason.

One odd observation relating to this;
Only one?
I've noted when I am meditating or deeply into writing or other deep 
mental states, I very often find the imagined position of my body to 
be reversed; ie, I awake to find I am faced North, when in the 
dream-state I was facing South, 180 degrees out of phase with my 
actual position.
And this means what, exactly? It's not an uncommon experience...
On the good side;  to grow a population with immunity, you subject 
them to an environment full of the toxin.  if we, (humanity) have been 
in the toxic presence of the Babble generator for thousands of years, 
perhaps we will or are generating a population that has a natural 
resistance to such interference.
Do you have any evidence at all -- real, hard evidence, not anecdotal 
accounts -- that any single scrap of what you posted is in any way 
objectively valid, real or otherwise not hooey?

Or is this all a big April Fool's prank?
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http://books.nightwares.com/
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Crichton satire

2005-04-01 Thread d.brin
Stefan Jones offered the following
(From: http://www.realclimate.org/)
Doubts about the Advent of Spring
A consensus view amongst climate scientists holds that the Northern
Hemisphere will be warming this month, as spring is coming. This is
thought to be due to the Earth's orbit around the sun and the
inclination of the Earth's axis, tilting the Northern Hemisphere
progressively towards the sun throughout March and April and increasing
the amount of solar radiation received at northern latitudes.
In a new novel, State of Euphoria, bestselling author Michael Crikey
uncovers major flaws in this theory and warns against false hopes for
the arrival of spring.
This is not merely fiction: Crikey underpins his thesis with numerous
scientific diagrams. He presents measurements from over a dozen weather
stations in the Northern Hemisphere where temperatures show a cooling
trend in March. He further cites scientific results which show that in
some places, snow and ice have increased in the past weeks, counter to
climatologists' claims that they should be melting away in the spring
sun. He further argues that even the average temperature of the
Northern
Hemisphere has not increased steadily; during one week of March, it
showed a slight cooling despite the increase in solar radiation.
This casts a grave shadow of doubt on the theory of the seasons, says
Crikey. Consensus science is not good science. He says we should not
trust computer models projecting that June will be much warmer than
March in most of the Northern Hemisphere. These models cannot even
predict the weather in two weeks time - why should we believe what they
say about temperatures in two months? He also says that only six
months
ago, scientists were predicting a cooling.
Nobody can predict the future, asserts Crikey. Farmers risk wasting
billions of dollars if they trust the warming forecast; Crikey urges
them to wait with sowing until it is clear that summer temperatures
have
indeed arrived.
Crikey argues that climatologists cling to the ill-founded theory of
seasons for political reasons. Scientists have promoted their orbital
theory of seasons for centuries without questioning it, says Crikey.
It has become like a dogma. They cannot admit that it is wrong without
suffering a serious setback in credibility and research funding.
Crikey's book was welcomed by many organisations, such as the Science
and Environment Propaganda Project (SEPP) and the Frontiers of Fallacy
Foundation (FF). In an emotional speech, Senator Outhofe urged his
colleagues to take the time for reading the novel. He called seasons a
great hoax and emphasised that science is overwhelmingly on the side
that, in fact, they are not occurring, and if they are occurring, are
not a result of the Earth's orbit.
Climate scientists, on the other hand, quickly jumped up to reject
Crikey's claims. We have a curve called the 'tennis racket' which
proves seasons are real, says NASA's Gavin Schmoot. It is based on a
sophisticated statistical analysis of the isotope composition of
sediment in old French wines. In fact, we have many rackets so it is
more like a tennis club.
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Brin: Re: Crichton satire

2005-04-01 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:23 PM Friday 4/1/2005, you wrote:
Stefan Jones offered the following
(From: http://www.realclimate.org/)
Doubts about the Advent of Spring
A consensus view amongst climate scientists holds that the Northern
Hemisphere will be warming this month, as spring is coming. This is
thought to be due to the Earth's orbit around the sun and the
inclination of the Earth's axis, tilting the Northern Hemisphere
progressively towards the sun throughout March and April and increasing
the amount of solar radiation received at northern latitudes.
In a new novel, State of Euphoria, bestselling author Michael Crikey
uncovers major flaws in this theory and warns against false hopes for
the arrival of spring.
[snip]
Ha!
I wonder if I should present this the next time I teach the subject . . .
--Ronn! :)
Ronn Blankenship
Sometime Instructor of Astronomy/Planetary Science
University of Montevallo
Montevallo, AL
Disclaimer:  Unless specifically stated otherwise, any opinions contained 
herein are the personal opinions of the author and do not represent the 
official position of the University of Montevallo.

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Re: tower of Babel theory

2005-04-01 Thread Dave Land
On Apr 1, 2005, at 1:38 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 10:37 AM Friday 4/1/2005, Alan Ackley wrote:
My theory of the tower of Babel; (a modification of the theory in John
Keel's Eighth Tower).
The Babylonians were building a tower to reach to the sky, and when
God, (or in this case, the Elohim) decided to end this form of human
progress, the method used also had the effect of causing multiple
languages to occur. Keel suggested that somewhere in the middle east,
inside some unspecified stone monument, (the big stone in Mecca?) is a
generator which has affected the mentality of mankind from then until
now.
Leading one to wonder aloud if said Mr. Keel has been standing too 
close
to said stone monument for too long . . .
Or to wonder if it is a coincidence that this message was delivered on
this particular day of this particular month (like another thread posted
eighteen minutes and thirty seconds after midnight).
Dave
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Re: tower of Babel theory

2005-04-01 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:34 PM Friday 4/1/2005, Dave Land wrote:
On Apr 1, 2005, at 1:38 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 10:37 AM Friday 4/1/2005, Alan Ackley wrote:
My theory of the tower of Babel; (a modification of the theory in John
Keel's Eighth Tower).
The Babylonians were building a tower to reach to the sky, and when
God, (or in this case, the Elohim) decided to end this form of human
progress, the method used also had the effect of causing multiple
languages to occur. Keel suggested that somewhere in the middle east,
inside some unspecified stone monument, (the big stone in Mecca?) is a
generator which has affected the mentality of mankind from then until
now.
Leading one to wonder aloud if said Mr. Keel has been standing too close
to said stone monument for too long . . .
Or to wonder if it is a coincidence that this message was delivered on
this particular day of this particular month (like another thread posted
eighteen minutes and thirty seconds after midnight).

Didn't Freud say there are no coincidences ?
--Ronn! :)
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Re: tower of Babel theory

2005-04-01 Thread Julia Thompson
Alan Ackley wrote:
My theory of the tower of Babel; (a modification of the theory in John 
Keel's Eighth Tower).

The Babylonians were building a tower to reach to the sky, and when 
God, (or in this case, the Elohim) decided to end this form of human 
progress, the method used also had the effect of causing multiple 
languages to occur.  Keel suggested that somewhere in the middle east, 
inside some unspecified stone monument, (the big stone in Mecca?) is a 
generator which has affected the mentality of mankind from then until 
now.  Undoubtedly using ELF waves (extra low frequency) this 
hypothetical device must still be in operation, and constantly 
interferes with human communication abilities contributing to war and 
strife worldwide.

A radar jammer will pick up the radar frequency being used and will then 
broadcast a signal on the same frequency, but 180 degrees out of 
phase.   Similarly I suspect a device which picks up broadcasts of human 
consciousness then rebroadcasts a wave 180 degrees (in opposition, to 
cancel or overrride) out of phase.   One possible effect of this is to 
block human telepathy.  If the odds are 50/50 that you will recieve the 
truth or it's opposite, the telepathic link becomes useless, thus humans 
must fall back on the backup method of uttering sounds.  Hypothesizing 
that pre-Babel humans were telepathic, but separate tribes also used 
local verbal signs, then when telepathy was blocked, only the widely 
variant tribal verbalizations remained.

One odd observation relating to this;  I've noted when I am meditating 
or deeply into writing or other deep mental states, I very often find 
the imagined position of my body to be reversed; ie, I awake to find I 
am faced North, when in the dream-state I was facing South, 180 degrees 
out of phase with my actual position.

Another aside;  for a while in the '70s and '80s some reserchers 
believed that Russians were beaming ELF at the USA from giant low 
frequency Tesla coils in Siberia.  Rumor had it that a lot of the beams 
were focused for some unknown reason at Oregon.  Of course the HAARP 
project and other huge phased array antenna sites may also have the 
ability to generate waves that directly affect the mass consciousness of 
humans.  There is no evidence this is being done, but the capability is 
growing.
I suspect such a use would require massive computers to be controlling 
the antenna output (such as is being done in Alaska with HAARP).   Would 
hate to see what advanced black magician types might do with this type 
of stuff.   (but, hey, my theory IS that the Babble generator is just 
such an ancient black project, and still operates.)

On the good side;  to grow a population with immunity, you subject them 
to an environment full of the toxin.  if we, (humanity) have been in the 
toxic presence of the Babble generator for thousands of years, perhaps 
we will or are generating a population that has a natural resistance to 
such interference.
There's a glaring hole in this theory:  there is no explanation as to 
why communications get messed up when Mercury is in retrograde.

Julia
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glitched reality continues

2005-04-01 Thread Alan Ackley
Thanks to Nick Lidster for the elevating discussion of Plato’s cave.  I 
won’t claim I’ve made it into the light yet, but I believe I may have gotten 
beyond staring at the shadows…
Thanks also to Gary Denton for the apology.  But I doubt you brought anyone 
along unless they were trapped in the car with you when you arrived.

I agree that you probably won’t have any recordings of the previous universe 
once you’ve entered into the new universe.  Indeed this model seems to fit 
my experience.  I seem to have come here alone into a new universe populated 
with near duplicates of the people I knew there.

I had another slight glitch today.  I was searching out someone I had 
interviewed with (for an elevator repair job) five years ago.  He had since 
retired.  At that time I was told that the repair shop covered elevators in 
many cities (all being on state owned university campuses).  Today I was 
told that the local repair shop only covers this one campus and NEVER had 
responsibility for other campuses.  Apparently this is one more small 
difference from the universe I previously inhabited.

I did a backup visit to the construction company where the temp agency had 
seemingly been a month earlier.  The construction company has been there 
five years.  The secretary appreciated my tale and hummed a nice rendition 
of a bar from the “Outer Limits” theme.
They’ve built a wall where I talked to the guy last month.  I mean it!  The 
floor layout is different!  I don’t believe I dreamed this, although once I 
dreamed a Wednesday, then woke up and it took half the day for me to realize 
it really wasn’t Thursday yet.  I had to do Wednesday over again.

There was an interesting study done of the memories of Titanic survivors.  
Over the years people seemed to modify their memories to make their own 
roles seem more heroic or justified.  This doesn’t seem to apply to my case 
where the nature of these glitches do nothing to make or break my ego, just 
odd pointless differences.

I read “The Bible Code” a while back, and wondered if the code, which seemed 
designed to pass messages into the future, had been used to stabilize a 
particular timeline.  Travelers entering into a new universe could get a 
copy of the Torah and, decoding it with their computerized time travel 
decoder rings, might get some numerical indication of how far they were from 
their original timeline.   Bush is mentioned in the Bible Code, along with 
the Kennedy assassination and Rabin’s assassination, so I suppose his reign 
of errors is also somehow emblematic of this timeline.

Thanks again for the various comments, from whichever universe.  I’d really 
rather not doubt the accuracy of my own memories, but I have less scruples 
when it comes to doubting the memories of others.

Alan Ackley.
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Re: glitched reality continues

2005-04-01 Thread Robert Seeberger

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Ackley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Brin-L@mccmedia.com
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 5:52 PM
Subject: glitched reality continues

[SNIP]


I think it is time for me to repost the Janelle story.G


xponent
Alternate History Maru
rob 


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The Top 100 April Fool's Day Hoaxes of All Time

2005-04-01 Thread Robert G. Seeberger
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/top100.html




xponent
Fun Maru
rob 


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Re: tower of Babel theory

2005-04-01 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 05:37 PM Friday 4/1/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Alan Ackley wrote:
My theory of the tower of Babel; (a modification of the theory in John 
Keel's Eighth Tower).
The Babylonians were building a tower to reach to the sky, and when 
God, (or in this case, the Elohim) decided to end this form of human 
progress, the method used also had the effect of causing multiple 
languages to occur.  Keel suggested that somewhere in the middle east, 
inside some unspecified stone monument, (the big stone in Mecca?) is a 
generator which has affected the mentality of mankind from then until 
now.  Undoubtedly using ELF waves (extra low frequency) this hypothetical 
device must still be in operation, and constantly interferes with human 
communication abilities contributing to war and strife worldwide.
A radar jammer will pick up the radar frequency being used and will then 
broadcast a signal on the same frequency, but 180 degrees out of 
phase.   Similarly I suspect a device which picks up broadcasts of human 
consciousness then rebroadcasts a wave 180 degrees (in opposition, to 
cancel or overrride) out of phase.   One possible effect of this is to 
block human telepathy.  If the odds are 50/50 that you will recieve the 
truth or it's opposite, the telepathic link becomes useless, thus humans 
must fall back on the backup method of uttering sounds.  Hypothesizing 
that pre-Babel humans were telepathic, but separate tribes also used 
local verbal signs, then when telepathy was blocked, only the widely 
variant tribal verbalizations remained.
One odd observation relating to this;  I've noted when I am meditating or 
deeply into writing or other deep mental states, I very often find the 
imagined position of my body to be reversed; ie, I awake to find I am 
faced North, when in the dream-state I was facing South, 180 degrees out 
of phase with my actual position.
Another aside;  for a while in the '70s and '80s some reserchers believed 
that Russians were beaming ELF at the USA from giant low frequency Tesla 
coils in Siberia.  Rumor had it that a lot of the beams were focused for 
some unknown reason at Oregon.  Of course the HAARP project and other 
huge phased array antenna sites may also have the ability to generate 
waves that directly affect the mass consciousness of humans.  There is no 
evidence this is being done, but the capability is growing.
I suspect such a use would require massive computers to be controlling 
the antenna output (such as is being done in Alaska with HAARP).   Would 
hate to see what advanced black magician types might do with this type of 
stuff.   (but, hey, my theory IS that the Babble generator is just such 
an ancient black project, and still operates.)
On the good side;  to grow a population with immunity, you subject them 
to an environment full of the toxin.  if we, (humanity) have been in the 
toxic presence of the Babble generator for thousands of years, perhaps we 
will or are generating a population that has a natural resistance to such 
interference.
There's a glaring hole in this theory:  there is no explanation as to why 
communications get messed up when Mercury is in retrograde.

Clearly because they're coming through Uranus . . .
American Standard Maru
--Ronn! :)
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Re: tower of Babel theory

2005-04-01 Thread Robert Seeberger

- Original Message - 
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: tower of Babel theory


 At 05:37 PM Friday 4/1/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Alan Ackley wrote:
My theory of the tower of Babel; (a modification of the theory in 
John Keel's Eighth Tower).
[SNIP]
toxic presence of the Babble generator for thousands of years, 
perhaps we will or are generating a population that has a natural 
resistance to such interference.

There's a glaring hole in this theory:  there is no explanation as 
to why communications get messed up when Mercury is in retrograde.



 Clearly because they're coming through Uranus . . .


They want to take our pottyable water.

xponent
Moen Maru
rob 


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Re: tower of Babel theory

2005-04-01 Thread maru
Robert Seeberger wrote:
- Original Message - 
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: tower of Babel theory

 

At 05:37 PM Friday 4/1/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
   

Clearly because they're coming through Uranus . . .
   

They want to take our pottyable water.
xponent
Moen Maru
rob 

 

Noo!!! Not our precious bodily fluids! Anything but!
~Maru
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HAARP ufo's?

2005-04-01 Thread Alan Ackley
HAARP; High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program.
It seems Arco owned a bunch of natural gas rights in Alaska, where no one 
needed the gas.  They lobbied to get this weird thing built; a giant phased 
array antenna, fed by it’s own power plant.  The original idea seemed to be 
to modulate the electrojet (the stream of electrons and negative ions fed 
into the Earth by the solar wind, which is the source of the aurora)  Seems 
it may have had other uses as well.  Apparently a prime use is to heat a 
local patch of atmosphere, wherever the thing is aimed (by phase adjusting 
the array) and might be used as a weapon or just to make pretty lights and 
oddball radar reflections.

I think the HAARP could be used to duplicate some of the UFO phenomena;  A 
blob of light that moves as if without mass (because it is just a spot where 
the air is glowing and heated) and can make sudden impossible seeming turns 
and accelerations.  The temperature inversions around the heated area could 
reflect radar.  Certain classic UFO cases may have been tests of using this 
effect as a psychological warfare device (one in Spain and another in 
Florida).  I don't know, but I imagine the possibility of projecting a 
gigantic image into the clouds, of Jesus returning with angels and trumpets, 
or some such hoo haw.  Of course this sort of imaging would be far more 
difficult to program into the phased array antenna than a mere blob of 
light.  It might be possible to use the arrays in Puerto Rico, Hawaii and 
Australia in unison.

One of Jacques Vallee's more recent books points to evidence of this sort of 
fake UFO, and in Spain, a psychological operation.  I believe the book was 
called Revelations, the third book in a trilogy (Dimensions, and 
Confrontations being the other two in the trilogy).

Alan.
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