Re: New 'planet' bigger than Pluto

2006-02-06 Thread Ronn!Blankenship

At 10:20 PM Sunday 2/5/2006, Julia Thompson wrote:

Robert G. Seeberger wrote:

I keep on talking about my object as that thing we found or 2003 
UB313, which is a horrible name, said Mike Brown, a Cal Tech 
planetary scientist who discovered the object with colleagues Chad 
Trujillo of the Gemini Observatory and David Rabinowitz of Yale University.
It can't get an official name until it has an official status and 
right now it doesn't have an official status, so it can't get a

name, he said.


So he's not going with the convention a number of other astromers 
are using, referring to it as Xena?



He started using that as a preliminary name.  He says he has a better 
permanent name in mind to be revealed when the time comes.  Hopefully 
he is not going to follow the example of a SF story I read some years 
back where the discoverer of several planets beyond Pluto named them 
Mickey, Goofy, et. al. . . .  (Dunno if the IAU would approve those 
names, or, for that matter, if they would approve Xena as the 
official name . . . )



--Ronn!  :)

Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country 
and two words have been added to the pledge of Allegiance... UNDER 
GOD.  Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer and that 
would be eliminated from schools too?

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Re: New 'planet' bigger than Pluto

2006-02-06 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Julia Thompson wrote:
 
 So he's not going with the convention a number of other astromers 
 are using, referring to it as Xena?
 
If there´s any logic, it should be named America

Alberto Monteiro

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Re: New 'planet' bigger than Pluto

2006-02-06 Thread Medievalbk
 
In a message dated 2/6/2006 4:29:26 AM US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Alberto  Monteiro wrote:If there´s any logic, it should be named  America



Because it's too far out to be useful?
 
Vilyehm
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Re: New 'planet' bigger than Pluto

2006-02-06 Thread The Fool
 From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 At 10:20 PM Sunday 2/5/2006, Julia Thompson wrote:
 Robert G. Seeberger wrote:
 
 I keep on talking about my object as that thing we found or 2003 
 UB313, which is a horrible name, said Mike Brown, a Cal Tech 
 planetary scientist who discovered the object with colleagues Chad 
 Trujillo of the Gemini Observatory and David Rabinowitz of Yale
University.
 It can't get an official name until it has an official status and 
 right now it doesn't have an official status, so it can't get a
 name, he said.
 
 So he's not going with the convention a number of other astromers 
 are using, referring to it as Xena?
 
 
 He started using that as a preliminary name.  He says he has a better

 permanent name in mind to be revealed when the time comes.  Hopefully

 he is not going to follow the example of a SF story I read some years

 back where the discoverer of several planets beyond Pluto named them 
 Mickey, Goofy, et. al. . . .  (Dunno if the IAU would approve those 
 names, or, for that matter, if they would approve Xena as the 
 official name . . . )

It need to be named after a major Greek/Roman god like Athena.
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Re: New 'planet' bigger than Pluto

2006-02-06 Thread Alberto Monteiro
 So he's not going with the convention a number of other astromers
 are using, referring to it as Xena?

 If there´s any logic, it should be named America

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Uranium, Neptunium, Plutonium, Americium :-)

Alberto Monteiro

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Re: New 'planet' bigger than Pluto

2006-02-06 Thread Dave Land

On Feb 6, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:


So he's not going with the convention a number of other astromers
are using, referring to it as Xena?


If there´s any logic, it should be named America


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Uranium, Neptunium, Plutonium, Americium :-)


Alberto crossed the streams of humor.

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Re: New 'planet' bigger than Pluto

2006-02-06 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On 2/6/06, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Feb 6, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:

  So he's not going with the convention a number of other astromers
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  If there´s any logic, it should be named America
 
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  Uranium, Neptunium, Plutonium, Americium :-)

 Alberto crossed the streams of humor.



Spengler:  There's something very important I forgot to tell you.
Venkman:  What?
Spengler:  Don't cross the streams.
Venkman:  Why?
Spengler:  It would be bad.
Venkman:  I'm fuzzy on the whole good-bad thing.  What do you mean, bad?
Spengler:  Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously
and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.
Stantz:  Total protonic reversal.
Venkman:  Right.  That's bad.  Okay,  all right, important safety tip.
Thanks Egon.

:-)

I love that movie.

Mauro
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Re: New 'planet' bigger than Pluto

2006-02-06 Thread Julia Thompson

Mauro Diotallevi wrote:

On 2/6/06, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Feb 6, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:



So he's not going with the convention a number of other astromers
are using, referring to it as Xena?


If there´s any logic, it should be named America


Spoiler space
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Uranium, Neptunium, Plutonium, Americium :-)


Alberto crossed the streams of humor.





Spengler:  There's something very important I forgot to tell you.
Venkman:  What?
Spengler:  Don't cross the streams.
Venkman:  Why?
Spengler:  It would be bad.
Venkman:  I'm fuzzy on the whole good-bad thing.  What do you mean, bad?
Spengler:  Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously
and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.
Stantz:  Total protonic reversal.
Venkman:  Right.  That's bad.  Okay,  all right, important safety tip.
Thanks Egon.

:-)

I love that movie.


So do I.  You beat me to that.  :)  That has been quoted a lot around 
me.  And I have quoted it a lot, at least the every molecule in your 
body exploding at the speed of light bit.


Julia

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Re: New 'planet' bigger than Pluto

2006-02-06 Thread Robert Seeberger
Mauro Diotallevi wrote:
 On 2/6/06, Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Feb 6, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:

 So he's not going with the convention a number of other 
 astromers
 are using, referring to it as Xena?

 If there´s any logic, it should be named America

 Spoiler space
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 Uranium, Neptunium, Plutonium, Americium :-)

 Alberto crossed the streams of humor.



 Spengler:  There's something very important I forgot to tell you.
 Venkman:  What?
 Spengler:  Don't cross the streams.
 Venkman:  Why?
 Spengler:  It would be bad.
 Venkman:  I'm fuzzy on the whole good-bad thing.  What do you mean,
 bad? Spengler:  Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping
 instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the
 speed of light.
 Stantz:  Total protonic reversal.
 Venkman:  Right.  That's bad.  Okay,  all right, important safety 
 tip.
 Thanks Egon.

 :-)

 I love that movie.


I've always suspected that scene was a joke/metaphor for group pissing 
based on the former Lampooners penchant for juvenile humor.

xponent
It's Because I'm Pissing On Your Briefcase Maru
rob

Go placidly amid the noise  waste,  remember what comfort there may 
be in owning a piece thereof. Avoid quiet  passive persons unless you 
are in need of sleep. Rotate your tires.  Speak glowingly of those 
greater than yourself and heed well their advice even though they be 
turkeys; know what to kiss and when. Consider that two wrongs never 
make a right but that three do. Wherever possible, put people on hold. 
Be comforted that in the face of all aridity  disillusionment and 
despite the changing fortunes of time, there will always be a big 
future in computer maintenance.  Remember the Pueblo. Strive at all 
times to bend, fold, spindle,  mutilate. Know yourself; if you need 
help, call the FBI. Exercise caution in your daily affairs, especially 
with those persons closest to you. That lemon on your left, for 
instance. Be assured that a walk through the ocean of most souls would 
scarcely get your feet wet. Fall not in love therefore; it will stick 
to your face. Gracefully surrender the things of youth, birds, clean 
air, tuna, Taiwan; and let not the sands of time get in your lunch. 
Hire people with hooks.  For a good time, call 606-4311; ask for Ken. 
Take heart amid the deepening gloom that your dog is finally getting 
enough cheese; and reflect that whatever misfortune may be your lot, 
it could only be worse in Milwaukee.  You are a fluke of the universe; 
you have no right to be here, and whether you can hear it or not, the 
universe is laughing behind your back.  Therefore make peace with your 
God whatever you conceive Him to be: Hairy Thunderer or Cosmic Muffin. 
With all its hopes, dreams, promises  urban renewal, the world 
continues to deteriorate.
 Give up.


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Re: New 'planet' bigger than Pluto

2006-02-06 Thread Doug Pensinger

Robert wrote:



Go placidly amid the noise  waste,  remember what comfort there may
be in owning a piece thereof. Avoid quiet  passive persons unless you
are in need of sleep. Rotate your tires.  Speak glowingly of those
greater than yourself and heed well their advice even though they be
turkeys; know what to kiss and when. Consider that two wrongs never
make a right but that three do. Wherever possible, put people on hold.
Be comforted that in the face of all aridity  disillusionment and
despite the changing fortunes of time, there will always be a big
future in computer maintenance.  Remember the Pueblo. Strive at all
times to bend, fold, spindle,  mutilate. Know yourself; if you need
help, call the FBI. Exercise caution in your daily affairs, especially
with those persons closest to you. That lemon on your left, for
instance. Be assured that a walk through the ocean of most souls would
scarcely get your feet wet. Fall not in love therefore; it will stick
to your face. Gracefully surrender the things of youth, birds, clean
air, tuna, Taiwan; and let not the sands of time get in your lunch.
Hire people with hooks.  For a good time, call 606-4311; ask for Ken.
Take heart amid the deepening gloom that your dog is finally getting
enough cheese; and reflect that whatever misfortune may be your lot,
it could only be worse in Milwaukee.  You are a fluke of the universe;
you have no right to be here, and whether you can hear it or not, the
universe is laughing behind your back.  Therefore make peace with your
God whatever you conceive Him to be: Hairy Thunderer or Cosmic Muffin.
With all its hopes, dreams, promises  urban renewal, the world
continues to deteriorate.
 Give up.


Genius is Pain!

--
Doug
Catch it and you keep it maru
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Re: New 'planet' bigger than Pluto

2006-02-06 Thread Dave Land

On Feb 6, 2006, at 7:04 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote:


Go placidly amid the noise  waste,  remember what comfort there may
be in owning a piece thereof...


Wow! Deteriorata. I haven't heard that in years.

Amazing how the dig on domestic surveillance (If you need
help, call the FBI) is right back in the news again. I listened to
a bit of today's hearings and especially enjoyed Sen. Leahy's
sharply sarcastic retort when Alfredo Gonzalez refused to answer yet
another question on the basis that it was operational, rather than
going to the overall legality of the program: Oh, I'm sorry, Mr.
Attorney General, I forgot that you're not allowed to answer any
questions that would be helpful to this committee (or words to that
effect).

Amazing how it only took 30 years for us to elect a president that
makes Richard Nixon look good.

Dave
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Senate Hearing on Wiretapping

2006-02-06 Thread Patrick Sweeney
Hi folks,
Or how about this exchange:

..
BIDEN: Thank you very much. General, how has this revelation damaged
the program?

I'm almost confused by it but, I mean, it seems to presuppose that
these very sophisticated Al Qaida folks didn't think we were
intercepting their phone calls.

I mean, I'm a little confused. How did it damage this?

GONZALES: Well, Senator, I would first refer to the experts in the
Intel Committee who are making that statement, first of all. I'm just
the lawyer.

And so, when the director of the CIA says this should really damage
our intel capabilities, I would defer to that statement. I think,
based on my experience, it is true -- you would assume that the enemy
is presuming that we are engaged in some kind of surveillance.

But if they're not reminded about it all the time in the newspapers
and in stories, they sometimes forget.

(LAUGHTER)
...

They sometimes forget? Is this al Qaida or the Keystone Kops? For that
matter, if al Qaida's this naive  inept, why even bother with a War
on Terror? Just, you know, plant a pie truck near their base or
scatter banana peels around. Problem solved.
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