Re: Political Dementia

2007-05-17 Thread Julia Thompson
jon louis mann wrote:
 Maru is part of a Japanese ship's name, as in 'Kobayashi Maru.'
 On-List, it's used as part of a post signature title, and usually
 relates to the content of the post, with humor, silliness or even 
 seriousness value-added.
 
 Debbi Helpful Not Meddlesome Maru ;)
 
 thanks debbie, i vaguely recall something about a test given to cadet
 at the federation academy and you could pass unless you cheated?
 wikepedia says it is attached to a ship's name so it will return to
 port 'full circle'.

On the Federation Academy thing,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobayashi_Maru

It wasn't a matter of cheating or not, the test was to see how you did 
in a no-win situation.  Kirk reprogrammed the simulator.

Dang, I need to watch that movie again

Julia
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RE: Re Cost of conservation

2007-05-17 Thread Dan Minette


 You ignored my general call for less planned
 obsolesence and picked on only one example, that of
 home decor.  

Did you expect me to discuss every area of consumption in detail?  I picked
an example where fashion just gave one example.  Debbie, I try to get to
specific when I discuss things.  I don't always have the time to find hard
numbers, and they are not always available, but I find little growth in
understanding resulting from the trading of generalities.unless of
course they are well verified and precise generalities like the theory of
gravity. :-)

When I think of fashion, I first think of clothes...and then think of
furnishing/décor trends.  My understanding of the difference between lower
middle class fashion and upper class fashion is not that upper class men and
women have just a lot more stuff (although they do have more stuff), but
that the main difference is that the upper class people have better stuff.
Lower middle class people buy shirts at Wall-Mart for $10...rich people buy
shirts from designer boutiques at $200.  I'll agree that someone in an upper
class household is more likely to have 100 dresses in the closet than
someone from a lower middle class household.  But, even upper class people
don't buy dresses and throw them away the next year.  They are cheap enough
to give them to a consignment shop or let Goodwill pick them up.  My Zambian
daughter, Neli, picked up a nice woman's business suit for $80 from Goodwill
when she needed something nice.

Planned obsolescence was, in my day, usually a reference to cars and
appliances that are made to fall apart, so you have to buy another one.
But, if you look at cars, for example, you see that they last longer than
they did 40 years ago.  Only our diesel Rabbit died before 100k miles...and
that was almost 25 years ago.  Now, there are a number of people who do buy
a new car every year.  But, they don't throw their old cars away...they sell
them.  As long as someone uses the cars, it's not wasted.

What people often refer to now, when they speak of planned obsolescence, is
the tendency to throw something away when it breaks, instead of getting it
fixed.  But, that's a different phenomenon.  Many items, such as TVs, are so
cheap and reliable now that it doesn't pay to have a trained person spend
hours trying to find and replace the bad component.  

I will have to find sites on the growth
 of Home Depots etc., and the logging of rare hardwoods
 to supply furniture, decking and so forth -- 

If you look at the trends, you will find a lot more use of treated pine
instead of rare hardwoods at Home Depot, etc.  I didn't find numbers on
redwood harvesting, yet, but I know that the average picnic table, 4x4, etc.
when I was a kid was made of redwood, while it is now made of treated pine.


forests
 in Indonesia and the Amazon basin are being illegally
 and unsustainably logged so that somebody can have a
 mahogony table with matching sideboard and chairs etc.

Mahogony tables and sideboards are not usually bought one year and thrown in
the dump five years later because they are out of fashion.  Plastic chairs
that are cheap and easily break are thrown out.

I'm not arguing that there aren't examples, such as rare wood harvesting,
where consumption will have to be cut down significantly because we are
running out.  I'm arguing that this is not a general trend, as people 30
years ago were arguing.  Commodity prices, on the whole, have gone down in
real dollars during that time.
 
 Cows do indeed produce quantities of methane, as do
 all ruminants (well, actually it's the bacteria in
 their guts that produce methane and hydrogen sulfide
 gases etc.); reducing meat consumption, in addition to
 being healthier for the individual person, would
 definitely be healthier for the planet.  Using
 range-fed instead of feedlot cows wouldn't use up
 perfectly good people-grade grain either.  

But, range feeding is a sensible use of land only for marginal land that
cannot grow cropsor if there is so much land we don't need to worry.  I
don't think we need to worry about using people-grade grain for cows, when
we have, in the span of a few years, increased our use of corn for fuel from
a small fraction of the crop to half the cropwith only a minor impact on
food prices.  

 If gas goes to $8/gal, I will have to significantly
 increase my fees - which many of my clients couldn't
 then afford, as riding lessons are already cancelled
 for financial reasons (just this Monday past, in fact,
 one single mom apologized that she can't continue
 because she's had to take on a second job -- of course
 I told her that I understood times were difficult and
 I hoped things got better for her) - or get an office
 job, which would probably precipitate a return of
 major depression, with nasty consequences for me.
 
And...$8/gal gas will just be a modest start if we really want to have no
increase in the production of greenhouse gasses.  The US's share would be 

RE: Re Cost of conservation

2007-05-17 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 11:31 AM Thursday 5/17/2007, Dan Minette wrote:

[snip]

What people often refer to now, when they speak of planned obsolescence, is
the tendency to throw something away when it breaks, instead of getting it
fixed.  But, that's a different phenomenon.  Many items, such as TVs, are so
cheap and reliable now that it doesn't pay to have a trained person spend
hours trying to find and replace the bad component.


My recent question about security screws is directly related to this 
phenomenon:  it is mid-May and the temperature has been in the 80s 
for several days already (although a front knocked yesterday's high 
down into the 70s and last night's pre-dawn low to around 50, making 
sweatpants and a sweater the uniform du jour rather than the shorts 
of recent days), so it's time to put out the fans.  Those which have 
been used for awhile (like part or all of last year) tend to have 
accumulated dust and cat and human hair around the motor and 
shaft.  In some cases I can clean some of it out with some kind of 
long probe and forceps and then use the straw provided on the can to 
squirt WD-40 into the works to get it going well again.  In other 
cases, that doesn't seem to be enough and I need to take off the 
grill on the back to get at the motor and works.  However, some of 
them are held together with the aforementioned security screws (in 
one case, alternating Phillips-head and Allen security 
screws).  While I suspect that the company would say that the reason 
for using security screws is to keep kids from getting the back off 
the fan and sticking their fingers in to get mangled or shocked, I 
also suspect that they are happy that by using such screws they make 
it more likely that most people who might try to fix them themselves 
will have to throw them away and buy a new one . . .


-- Ronn!  :)



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2007 Upfronts

2007-05-17 Thread William T Goodall
http://www.tv.com/special_feature/2007upfront/nbc/index.html

The networks have announced the new shows (most of which will be  
cancelled of course) for 2007/8. Those of scifi-ish interest:

NBC
The Bionic Woman
Jamie Sommers is a young woman working as a bartender and raising her  
teenage sister, Becca. When she is seriously injured in a car  
accident, her only hope for recovery lies in a top-secret  
experimental procedure involving bionic body parts!

Chuck
This new dramedy tells the strange tale of Chuck, a 20-something  
computer geek whose life changes forever when the US government  
downloads a secret database into his brain and recruits him for  
undercover missions of espionage!

Journeyman
A San Francisco reporter suddenly finds himself traveling through  
time, wreaking havoc on the future and making his present life  
incredibly complicated.

ABC
Cavemen
Based on the famous Geico commercials, this new comedy follows three  
cavemen trying to find success, acceptance, and love in the modern  
world.

Eli Stone (not yet scheduled)
Greg Berlanti and Marc Guggenheim bring us the tale of a San  
Francisco lawyer who finds out he has prophetic powers and decide to  
use them for good.

Pushing Daisies
This romantic drama shows us the strange world of a man who can bring  
dead people back to life through the power of his touch.

CBS
Moonlight
This new drama tells the story of a private investigator who is also  
a vampire. Watch as Mick deals with the curse of immortality and his  
doomed love for a mortal woman.

FOX
New Amsterdam
A New York City homicide detective is blessed and cursed with an  
immortality that will not cease until he finds his one true love.

The Sarah Connor Chronicles
The Terminator franchise arrives on TV with this serial drama. Set a  
year after the events of Terminator 2: Judgment Day, the series  
follows Sarah and John Connor as they hide from the authorities and  
Skynet's army of Terminators.

The CW
Reaper
A twenty-something slacker finally scores a job as the devil's bounty  
hunter, collecting the souls of those who haven't fulfilled their  
part in a deal with Satan.

It's hard to judge how good these shows will actually be from these  
descriptions. The Bionic Woman is a 'reimagining' from the producers  
of the reimagined Battlestar Galactica so it could be very good.

Pushing Daisies is from the guy who did _Wonderfalls_ and _Dead Like  
Me_ (Bryan Fuller) and The people he touches, however, can only stay  
alive for one minute, and if they don't die again, someone else  
nearby will die. Ned decides to use his ability to solve crime. He  
and a local investigator, Emerson, bring murder victims back to life  
and find out who killed them, to cash in on case-solving rewards.  
But, when Ned brings an old crush back to life, and decides to let  
her live, things start to get complicated...

A vampire called Mick?


That Time Again Maru

-- 
William T Goodall
Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web  : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk
Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/

Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not
tried it.
-- Donald E. Knuth


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Re: 2007 Upfronts

2007-05-17 Thread William T Goodall

On 18 May 2007, at 01:53, William T Goodall wrote:

 http://www.tv.com/special_feature/2007upfront/nbc/index.html

 The networks have announced the new shows (most of which will be
 cancelled of course) for 2007/8. Those of scifi-ish interest:
 CBS
 Moonlight
 This new drama tells the story of a private investigator who is also
 a vampire. Watch as Mick deals with the curse of immortality and his
 doomed love for a mortal woman.

Similar idea to the Lifetime series _Blood Ties_.


 FOX
 New Amsterdam
 A New York City homicide detective is blessed and cursed with an
 immortality that will not cease until he finds his one true love.

I wonder if it will have Highlander style flashbacks?


 The Sarah Connor Chronicles
 The Terminator franchise arrives on TV with this serial drama. Set a
 year after the events of Terminator 2: Judgment Day, the series
 follows Sarah and John Connor as they hide from the authorities and
 Skynet's army of Terminators.


Reminds me of _The Invaders_ ?

Nothing New Maru

--  
William T Goodall
Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web  : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk
Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/

It was only after ordering the melon balls that Rick discovered he  
was at a drive through plastic surgery.



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Re: 2007 Upfronts

2007-05-17 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 07:53 PM Thursday 5/17/2007, William T Goodall wrote:
The networks have announced the new shows (most of which will be
cancelled of course) for 2007/8. Those of scifi-ish interest:

NBC
The Bionic Woman
Jamie Sommers is a young woman working as a bartender and raising her
teenage sister, Becca.



So she doesn't play tennis?



When she is seriously injured in a car
accident, her only hope for recovery lies in a top-secret
experimental procedure involving bionic body parts!



Exclamation points in reviews/previews make me nervous.



Chuck
This new dramedy tells the strange tale of Chuck, a 20-something
computer geek whose life changes forever when the US government
downloads a secret database into his brain and recruits him for
undercover missions of espionage!



They still make me nervous.



Journeyman
A San Francisco reporter suddenly finds himself traveling through
time,



Maybe he could go back in time a few seasons and get a job writing 
articles for the newspaper in _Early Edition_.



  wreaking havoc on the future and making his present life
incredibly complicated.

ABC
Cavemen
Based on the famous Geico commercials, this new comedy follows three
cavemen trying to find success, acceptance, and love in the modern
world.



Oy.



Eli Stone (not yet scheduled)
Greg Berlanti and Marc Guggenheim bring us the tale of a San
Francisco lawyer who finds out he has prophetic powers and decide to
use them for good.



That's nice of him.



Pushing Daisies
This romantic drama shows us the strange world of a man who can bring
dead people back to life through the power of his touch.

CBS
Moonlight
This new drama tells the story of a private investigator who is also
a vampire. Watch as Mick deals with the curse of immortality and his
doomed love for a mortal woman.



Presumably not starring Bruce Willis and Cybill Shepard . . .



FOX
New Amsterdam
A New York City homicide detective is blessed and cursed with an
immortality that will not cease until he finds his one true love.



. . . or tanks in the ratings, whichever comes first . . .



The Sarah Connor Chronicles
The Terminator franchise arrives on TV with this serial drama. Set a
year after the events of Terminator 2: Judgment Day, the series
follows Sarah and John Connor as they hide from the authorities and
Skynet's army of Terminators.

The CW
Reaper
A twenty-something slacker finally scores a job as the devil's bounty
hunter, collecting the souls of those who haven't fulfilled their
part in a deal with Satan.

It's hard to judge how good these shows will actually be from these
descriptions. The Bionic Woman is a 'reimagining' from the producers
of the reimagined Battlestar Galactica so it could be very good.

Pushing Daisies is from the guy who did _Wonderfalls_



Suppose it will last any longer?



and _Dead Like
Me_ (Bryan Fuller) and The people he touches, however, can only stay
alive for one minute, and if they don't die again, someone else
nearby will die. Ned decides to use his ability to solve crime. He
and a local investigator, Emerson, bring murder victims back to life
and find out who killed them, to cash in on case-solving rewards.
But, when Ned brings an old crush back to life, and decides to let
her live, things start to get complicated...

A vampire called Mick?



As opposed to one named Nick who is a police detective rather than a P.I.?

Been Done Maru


-- Ronn!  :)



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Re: 2007 Upfronts

2007-05-17 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
(Since William did it, I presume I can do it too . . .)


At 09:12 PM Thursday 5/17/2007, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
At 07:53 PM Thursday 5/17/2007, William T Goodall wrote:
 The networks have announced the new shows [snip]
 
 ABC
 Cavemen
 Based on the famous Geico commercials,


At least it's not based on the early-80s film starring Ringo Starr . . .


P.U. Maru


-- Ronn!  :)



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