Re: Alabama vs. Female Orgasms
On 2 Oct 2007, at 04:41, Robert Seeberger wrote: Will the willful obtuseness never end? Not as long as the evil shadow of religion darkens your benighted land. Thought for the day Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Every Sunday Christians congregate to drink blood in honour of their zombie master. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Car free London?
On 30/09/2007, at 8:50 PM, Gary Nunn wrote: Holy Cow!! I make a post and step away for a few weeks and find this topic ran rampant - and I missed it! Yep. I'm still wondering what bits of London are 20 mins apart by car and hours apart by public transport (apart from at 3am, at which time most of London is 20 mins by car and unreachable at all by public transport...). Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Cat free London?
Every time I see this subject, I think What about dogs? Of course, I'm seeing something that isn't there... Hardly the first time, either. Nick -- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messages: 408-904-7198 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Cat free London?
On 10/2/07, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every time I see this subject, I think What about dogs? All dogs go to heaven. Haven't you seen the movie? (By the way, my fingers kept trying to type , All gods instead of All dogs.) -- Mauro Diotallevi Hey, Harry, you haven't done anything useful for a while -- you be the god of jello now. -- Patricia Wrede, 8/16/2006 on rasfc ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Cat free London?
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: On 10/2/07, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every time I see this subject, I think What about dogs? All dogs go to heaven. Haven't you seen the movie? (By the way, my fingers kept trying to type , All gods instead of All dogs.) But what about the Cat Who Went To Heaven? Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Cat free London?
Julia Thompson wrote: But what about the Cat Who Went To Heaven? Is this another version of the joke about The Lawyer Who Went To Heaven or The Engineer Who Went To Hell? Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Cat free London?
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Julia Thompson wrote: But what about the Cat Who Went To Heaven? Is this another version of the joke about The Lawyer Who Went To Heaven or The Engineer Who Went To Hell? No, it's a book that won the Newbery Medal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newbery_Medal Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Car free London?
At 09:25 AM Tuesday 10/2/2007, Charlie Bell wrote: On 30/09/2007, at 8:50 PM, Gary Nunn wrote: Holy Cow!! I make a post and step away for a few weeks and find this topic ran rampant - and I missed it! Yep. I'm still wondering what bits of London are 20 mins apart by car and hours apart by public transport I don't know about London, but most cities I have lived in in the U.S. are like that if the two points are both on the edge of the city proper, as the only bus routes or other public transportation available tends to run more or less radially from the downtown terminal, so to get from one point on the edge of the city (e.g., your house) to another relatively nearby on the edge of the city (e.g., your place of employment or in some cases the nearest shopping center), rather than going directly there which would be a 20-minute drive you must board the bus which comes closest to your house, ride all the way to the terminal downtown (taking the better part of an hour), wait perhaps the better part of another hour for the next bus on the route which passes closest to your destination, then when (sometimes if) it finally arrives at the terminal ride it for the better part of another hour until you reach the stop closest to your destination. Total time one way from your house to your destination: 2 to 3 hours, compared with 20 minutes if you drove there directly, even with traffic. Then there are the places which you may need to go which are basically unreachable by bus or other public transportation since the nearest any bus route comes to that part of town is at least 3-4 miles or more from the place you need to go (probably an hour's walk or more in good weather for a person in good health who does not have anything to carry, in many cases perhaps at least in part along a busy road which has no sidewalks. Yes, hypothetically you could take along a bicycle but at least here according to the policies sometimes printed on bus schedules and posted at the terminal and inside buses bicycles must be loaded on to a rack on the outside of the bus and the rack has only room for one bicycle and the driver does not even have to stop for you if s/he sees that you have a bicycle and there is already another passenger's bicycle in the rack. I don't know if you are allowed to take a Segway onto the bus, but even if you are for $5K you can probably get a used car which in most cases would be a much better use of the money than getting a Segway to get to and from the bus stop). (apart from at 3am, at which time most of London is 20 mins by car and unreachable at all by public transport...). In lots of the places I have lived many of the bus routes stop running around 6 pm (they are designed to get people who work 8 or 9 to 5 downtown to and from their homes in residential areas toward the edge of the city) and the rest have their last run between 9 and 10 pm, so if you work different hours you are out of luck. Apologies For The Repetition Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Cat free London?
At 11:30 AM Tuesday 10/2/2007, Nick Arnett wrote: Every time I see this subject, I think What about dogs? Of course, I'm seeing something that isn't there... Hardly the first time, either. Nick How long since your last eye exam/new pair of glasses, Nick? 8-) (As an interim fix, perhaps you could increase the default font size in your e-mail program . . . :P) -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Cat free London?
At 12:36 PM Tuesday 10/2/2007, Mauro Diotallevi wrote: On 10/2/07, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every time I see this subject, I think What about dogs? All dogs go to heaven. If they insist on chasing cars*, sometimes sooner than later . . . _ *Or in Florida, licking toads . . . Dog-gone Maru :( -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Car free London?
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Yes, hypothetically you could take along a bicycle but at least here according to the policies sometimes printed on bus schedules and posted at the terminal and inside buses bicycles must be loaded on to a rack on the outside of the bus and the rack has only room for one bicycle and the driver does not even have to stop for you if s/he sees that you have a bicycle and there is already another passenger's bicycle in the rack. The busses in Austin can handle at least 2 bikes each. :) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Car free London?
On 2 Oct 2007, at 22:38, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 09:25 AM Tuesday 10/2/2007, Charlie Bell wrote: On 30/09/2007, at 8:50 PM, Gary Nunn wrote: Holy Cow!! I make a post and step away for a few weeks and find this topic ran rampant - and I missed it! Yep. I'm still wondering what bits of London are 20 mins apart by car and hours apart by public transport I don't know about London, but most cities I have lived in in the U.S. are like that if the two points are both on the edge of the city proper, as the only bus routes or other public transportation available tends to run more or less radially from the downtown terminal, so to get from one point on the edge of the city (e.g., your house) to another relatively nearby on the edge of the city (e.g., your place of employment or in some cases the nearest shopping center), rather than going directly there which would be a 20-minute drive you must board the bus which comes closest to your house, ride all the way to the terminal downtown (taking the better part of an hour), snip Sounds like your public transport is designed by people who want to discredit public transport. Works here Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance - Steve Ballmer ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Car free London?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Bell Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 9:25 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Car free London? On 30/09/2007, at 8:50 PM, Gary Nunn wrote: Holy Cow!! I make a post and step away for a few weeks and find this topic ran rampant - and I missed it! Yep. I'm still wondering what bits of London are 20 mins apart by car and hours apart by public transport (apart from at 3am, at which time most of London is 20 mins by car and unreachable at all by public transport...). I thought it would be obvious...trips that require several transfers. Let me give you a specific example from the western part of London. I'll use street corners because I don't have addressesI took a while in answering because I knew that I'd have to prove it with a specific example...and it wasn't trivial for me to do the bus routes, schedules, etc...and be sure I stay within London proper with my example. Anyways, the example is Exmouth Rd. and Appledore Ave to Balmoral and Waverly and back on a Sunday afternoonabout 4 miles each way. It takes several changes of bus on each end, plus about a half mile walk each side. I am not _that_ familiar with London traffic, but my memory is that it's not terrible on the weekends, except for special occasions. So, 20 minutes for the 8 mile round trip by car sounds reasonable by mebut it might take 30. As far as I can see, several busses would have to be taken each way. Adding the time it takes to wait, along with the added time to take the bus routes (with stops) instead of the direct routes, that would be 40-60 minutes each way...nearest bus stop to nearest bus stop. Including the time it takes to walk a total of two miles, for someone who is not walking briskly...say 20 minute miles), and that gives us 2 hours to 2 hours 40 minutes for the trip. FWIW, the frequency of the outlying busses was a bit more than I would have guessed. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Car free London?
On Tuesday 2007-10-02 17:11, William T Goodall wrote: On 2 Oct 2007, at 22:38, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 09:25 AM Tuesday 10/2/2007, Charlie Bell wrote: On 30/09/2007, at 8:50 PM, Gary Nunn wrote: Holy Cow!! I make a post and step away for a few weeks and find this topic ran rampant - and I missed it! Yep. I'm still wondering what bits of London are 20 mins apart by car and hours apart by public transport I don't know about London, but most cities I have lived in in the U.S. are like that if the two points are both on the edge of the city proper, as the only bus routes or other public transportation available tends to run more or less radially from the downtown terminal, so to get from one point on the edge of the city (e.g., your house) to another relatively nearby on the edge of the city (e.g., your place of employment or in some cases the nearest shopping center), rather than going directly there which would be a 20-minute drive you must board the bus which comes closest to your house, ride all the way to the terminal downtown (taking the better part of an hour), snip Sounds like your public transport is designed by people who want to discredit public transport. Works here Maru In Phoenix the problem is car-enabled urban sprawl combined with relatively low ridership. The city is big enough that it has subsidiary hubs as well as bus lines that run along the grid. If you are lucky enough to have a direct line or have connections on heavily used routes then travel times can be reasonable. On the other hand you can have an infrequent route with a 1 hour connection in 110F with a half-mile walk at each end. That assumes that the bus system gets to your part of the eternal sprawling suburb. What the world needs is something like the Mercedes Smart car that is plug-in hybrid diesel electric. You combine that with heavy rail and heavy truck single-level car carriers then you have something. If you had a car carrier system there would be no freezing, or wet, or sweltering 1/2 mile walk to the center of a grid rectangle. If you had a form factor for carrier ready cars you could work or party late even if the public transit system went to sleep for the night. Just get in your little mini car and go home. (It would be best if the little cars fit width-wise so you could just roll on to the heavy-rail carrier and roll off at your destination.) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Car free London?
At 07:11 PM Tuesday 10/2/2007, William T Goodall wrote: Sounds like your public transport is designed by people who want to discredit public transport. But at least the lead story on the local news today there was an announcement that they are raising the fare . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
