Re: Godliness

2008-02-27 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Russell Chapman
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 Hmm - that would be Stones of Significance by our esteemed Dr Brin...

 Sorry for straying on-topic maru

How DARE you!  :-)

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Cleanliness

2008-02-27 Thread Julia Thompson
I couldn't help myself, too many messages titled Godliness.  :)

Julia

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RE: Cleanliness

2008-02-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Julia wrote

I couldn't help myself, too many messages titled Godliness.  :)

I have a general question (I do know the answer :-) ).  Who first said
'Cleanliness is next to Godliness' and why?

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Re: Per capita cost/value of infrastructure?

2008-02-27 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 (I'm probably not terribly creepy otherwise.  Unless women in Utilikilts
 creeps you out.)


Original or Leather?  (Somehow I don't see you in Spartan or Tuxedo.)

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Re: Godliness

2008-02-27 Thread Nick Arnett
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jon  wrote:

 
  I prefer a mundane god, myself, or perhaps a species evolving to the
  point of singularity and modifying its own genetic structure to self
  uplift in order to become transcendent.
  Jon M.
 
 
 Just a stranger on the Bus?


Just a slob like one of us?

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Re: Per capita cost/value of infrastructure?

2008-02-27 Thread Julia Thompson


On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Mauro Diotallevi wrote:

 On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 (I'm probably not terribly creepy otherwise.  Unless women in Utilikilts
 creeps you out.)


 Original or Leather?  (Somehow I don't see you in Spartan or Tuxedo.)

Jean Cut and Workman, actually.  (Blue denim and black, respectively.)

I don't think the Mocker would work on me, either.

I want to get another blue denim Jean Cut and a black Survival.

Julia

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Re: Cleanliness

2008-02-27 Thread Dave Land
On Feb 27, 2008, at 11:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Julia wrote

 I couldn't help myself, too many messages titled Godliness.  :)

 I have a general question (I do know the answer :-) ).  Who first  
 said
 'Cleanliness is next to Godliness' and why?

Are you referring to Wesley, or one of the ancient Babylonian and Hebrew
texts in which the idea seems to have originated?

Dave

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Re: Per capita cost/value of infrastructure?

2008-02-27 Thread Dave Land

On Feb 27, 2008, at 11:17 AM, Mauro Diotallevi wrote:

 On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 3jane.net wrote:

 (I'm probably not terribly creepy otherwise.  Unless women in  
 Utilikilts
 creeps you out.)


 Original or Leather?  (Somehow I don't see you in Spartan or Tuxedo.)

 From the Leather page:

 Why are you even here? The Leather is too much Utilikilt for you.
 Heck it’s too much Utilikilt for men who are twice or perhaps even
 three times the man you are.

 The Leather is the warmest, heaviest, most expensive, most  
amazingly
 badass, most go-to-a-bar-and-have-women-ask-to-touch-your-Utilikilt
 garment we offer. This baby isn’t for the meek. The Leather is for
 real men. Big men. Men who aren’t afraid to wear large swaths of  
cow
 around their waists. Men who take secret pleasure in making vegans
 and bovine activists cry.

 ...

 We had to redesign our whole pleating system to get it to work with
 this gorgeous material. The results? This Utilikilt is undoubtedly
 better hung than you are.

They seem to have a great sense of humo(u)r about themselves.

Dave

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Re: Cleanliness

2008-02-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Original Message:
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From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:03:21 -0800
To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: Cleanliness


On Feb 27, 2008, at 11:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Julia wrote

 I couldn't help myself, too many messages titled Godliness.  :)

 I have a general question (I do know the answer :-) ).  Who first  
 said
 'Cleanliness is next to Godliness' and why?

Are you referring to Wesley, or one of the ancient Babylonian and Hebrew
texts in which the idea seems to have originated?


Wesley

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Re: Cleanliness

2008-02-27 Thread Dave Land
On Feb 27, 2008, at 2:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Original Message:
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 From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:03:21 -0800
 To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
 Subject: Re: Cleanliness

 On Feb 27, 2008, at 11:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Julia wrote

 I couldn't help myself, too many messages titled Godliness.  :)

 I have a general question (I do know the answer :-) ).  Who first
 said
 'Cleanliness is next to Godliness' and why?

 Are you referring to Wesley, or one of the ancient Babylonian and  
 Hebrew
 texts in which the idea seems to have originated?

 Wesley

Are you now, or have you ever been, a Methodist? Or are you just much
better-read in 18th-century theologians than most?

Dave

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Re: Godliness

2008-02-27 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Feb 27, 2008, at 10:17 AM, Mauro Diotallevi wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:24 AM, Russell Chapman
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hmm - that would be Stones of Significance by our esteemed Dr  
 Brin...

 Sorry for straying on-topic maru

 How DARE you!  :-)

Yeah. Next time change the subject line, okay? Sheesh!

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Re: Cleanliness

2008-02-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Original Message:
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From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:56:27 -0800
To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: Cleanliness


On Feb 27, 2008, at 2:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Original Message:
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 From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:03:21 -0800
 To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
 Subject: Re: Cleanliness

 On Feb 27, 2008, at 11:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Julia wrote

 I couldn't help myself, too many messages titled Godliness.  :)

 I have a general question (I do know the answer :-) ).  Who first
 said
 'Cleanliness is next to Godliness' and why?

 Are you referring to Wesley, or one of the ancient Babylonian and  
 Hebrew
 texts in which the idea seems to have originated?

 Wesley

Are you now, or have you ever been, a Methodist? 

No, but my wife use to be one

Or are you just much better-read in 18th-century theologians 
than most?

Well, I'm fairly well read in theologians.  My wife is in seminary, and I
spend three days a week up there.  With my philosophy background, 
Catholic university training,  theology usually comes pretty easy. 

But, that statement wasn't really theological.  It was a social work
statement.  At that time, the importance of hygine to health was becoming
well established.  He was promoting cleanliness for health to coal miners
and other poor workers with that statement.

Dan M. 

Dave

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On Godliness

2008-02-27 Thread jon louis mann
   So how would you define your atheism?

You phrase it like it's a belief. It's not. I spent a long time 
exploring my Christianity, and in the end found it empty. So I stopped 
believing.

I do not believe in gods, ghosts, telepathy, bigfoot, bunyips or the 
loch ness monster. I think it likely on balance of evidence that all 
gods are human constructs (why else do they all act so much like 
people...).

Maybe there's a creator or supreme being, but if there is it's truly 
beyond the petty super-humans of our myths. It makes no difference to 
me, anyway.

   
  Personally, it is my belief that there is no such being in the universe that 
is omnipotent, infinite, eternal and who created man in his image.
  Jon


   
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