Re: Russia (Was What is wealth?)

2008-12-18 Thread Charlie Bell

On 18/12/2008, at 11:46 AM, dsummersmi...@comcast.net wrote:

 The recovery was caused by two things: Putin controlling the mob so
 businessmen knew who to bribe, and the rise in fuel costs.  But, the  
 last 4
 years, as he consolidated his power, he also concentrated the  
 wealthI
 don't think anyone would argue that Russia is not a more autocratic  
 country
 than it was even 4 years ago.  These types of countries rarely have  
 well
 off citizens.

More than that, why are there so many Russian ex-pats, well-educated,  
doing menial jobs in tourist resorts? 'cause it's better than no job  
in Russia.

Charlie.
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Belgian Beer (was Re: Russia (Was What is wealth?))

2008-12-18 Thread Jim Sharkey
Wayne wrote:
5. The nicest beer I ever had the pleasure of drinking was in Russia.  It 
was a Belgian brew and I wish I remembered the brand name.

I know it betrays my Irish-ness, but I think the Belgians make the best beers.

Chimay, Corsendonk, Maredsous...all delicious and with some fairly high alcohol
contents to boot, which is a bit of a bonus I must admit.  I like their 
Trippels the best,
but YMMV.

Jim
Beer snob Maru



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Re: Incoming!

2008-12-18 Thread Julia Thompson


On Wed, 17 Dec 2008, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:

 At 09:02 PM Wednesday 12/17/2008, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
 On Dec 17, 2008, at 3:05 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:

 Shoe-fly pie.

 Your fly is open.



 No it's not.  I'm not even wearing pants.


 Possibly TMI Maru

Oh.  That reminds me, I need to get a couple of kilts out of the washer 
and hang them up to dry

Julia

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Re: Belgian Beer (was Re: Russia (Was What is wealth?))

2008-12-18 Thread Nick Arnett
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:08 AM, Jim Sharkey templar...@excite.com wrote:


 I know it betrays my Irish-ness, but I think the Belgians make the best
 beers.


Ah, well, then I have to share a joke often told by a Fitzgerald friend of
mine.

An Irishman walks out of a bar.

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It could happen!

Nick
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Re: Irregulars questions on DTV conversion

2008-12-18 Thread Nick Arnett
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Ronn! Blankenship 
ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net wrote:


 (2)  Will a computer with a TV tuner card pick up the digital signal
 (without further modification), or would it either require a
 converter box in the line or have to be connected to cable?  And does
 anyone have any recommendations for such cards, particularly (if it
 makes a difference) ones which will turn an existing PC into a
 DTV-ready TV set?


Cable is supposed to continue offering analog signals, as I understand it,
so the old cards (and TVs) will work with it.

I have several DTV receivers for PCs.

I have one from ADS Tech (Instant TV HD), which died a yaer or so after I
bought it.  So I won't recommend that.  I also have a Pinnacle USB gizmo
(PCTV 800e), which seems to work okay.  I imagined I would use it with my
laptop, but now I know that most laptops don't have the graphics power to do
HDTV very well.  So I have the Pinnacle USB gizmo plugged into our living
room media computer.  When it works it is fine, but sometimes the drivers
seem to crash when it starts recording.  Luckily, though, I also have a DTV
receiver card in that computer (so that in theory, it can record two shows
at once and it sometimes actually does).  The card is an AverMedia M780.
I'm using SnapStream Beyond TV for schedule info, recording, etc.  It came
with one of the cards.

All of these were the cheapest stuff I could find.  I think I got the dead
one at CompUSA when they were going out of business.  It worked for a
while.  We don't watch much TV... well, actually, lately, we've fallen back
into the habit somewhat, but we mostly record movies and how-to shows.  We
rarely watch anything live.  No cable, just an antenna.

Speaking of antennas, if you go that route, you may want to replace any
splitters you have in your cable.  I had really lousy signal strength until
I replaced a splitter, after noticing in the store that new splitters are
rated up to higher frequencies.  Or maybe it was just that the splitter was
old.  Who knows, but after I replaced it, we had far more channels and
stronger signals, which in DTV means less jerks.  Except the ones who host
Fox news talk shows, of course.

We get 40 or 50 channels here in the South Bay.  A lot of them are redundant
most of the time and many are in languages I don't understand (tempted to
refer to Fox news again), but there's a lot to choose from even without
cable.

Alas, we are going to get cable again soon, I guess.  I'm moving everything
off my home server to a hosted solution and dumping DSL and our home phone
line in favor of cable, which should be cheaper, faster and maybe, just
maybe more reliable (we have a noisy phone line).

Nick
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RE: Russia (Was What is wealth?)

2008-12-18 Thread Dan M


 -Original Message-
 From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On
 Behalf Of Charlie Bell
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 4:51 AM
 To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion
 Subject: Re: Russia (Was What is wealth?)
 
 
 On 18/12/2008, at 11:46 AM, dsummersmi...@comcast.net wrote:
 
  The recovery was caused by two things: Putin controlling the mob so
  businessmen knew who to bribe, and the rise in fuel costs.  But, the
  last 4
  years, as he consolidated his power, he also concentrated the
  wealthI
  don't think anyone would argue that Russia is not a more autocratic
  country
  than it was even 4 years ago.  These types of countries rarely have
  well
  off citizens.
 
 More than that, why are there so many Russian ex-pats, well-educated,
 doing menial jobs in tourist resorts? 'cause it's better than no job
 in Russia.

And I bet it's not just the usual theater majors doing menial jobs while
waiting for their break (father of a theater major sighs).  I've read that
the Greek riots are tied to this type of problem; there are no/very few good
jobs available for college graduates there.



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Re: Irregulars questions on DTV conversion

2008-12-18 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Dec 18, 2008, at 11:28 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:

 Speaking of antennas, if you go that route, you may want to replace  
 any
 splitters you have in your cable.  I had really lousy signal  
 strength until
 I replaced a splitter, after noticing in the store that new  
 splitters are
 rated up to higher frequencies.  Or maybe it was just that the  
 splitter was
 old.  Who knows, but after I replaced it, we had far more channels and
 stronger signals, which in DTV means less jerks.  Except the ones  
 who host
 Fox news talk shows, of course.

Can vouch for upgrading the splitters, especially if the ones in the  
existing wiring are really old.  Digital TV does require pretty  
serious bandwldth, and to get the signal through to where the TV can  
receive it cleanly, splitters and cabling need to be rated up into the  
GHz range.

If the cable is old and ratty, it's worth pulling it out and replacing  
it, too.  (Cable TV companies are known for cutting out old cable and  
running new cable drops on new installations, specifically because old  
cable is usually degraded/damaged and tends to have impedance bumps in  
it that can make even analog signals look like the old days of rabbit  
ears.)
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Re: Irregulars questions on DTV conversion

2008-12-18 Thread Bruce Bostwick
And while I'm on this thread ..

Having experienced both analog and digital broadcast TV, there's one  
thing about analog that I'm really going to miss.  Analog signals are  
more readable under weak signal conditions than digital -- digital  
has a better quality picture as long as the bitstream is coming  
through intact, but it doesn't take much of a bit error rate to start  
showing compression artifacts, and not much above that, bam! no more  
signal.  Ask any ham operator familiar with ATV what they mean by the  
P0-P5 scale of picture quality .. P0-P1 is such poor quality the  
broadcasters won't stand for it, but if it will hold sync on the TV at  
least, you can at least read callsign cards and have some idea of  
what's in the image even through horrendous amounts of noise, and P2- 
P3 signals are good enough to be able to get useful info from the  
video even if they look terrible.

Where this really becomes a major concern is how well DTV gets  
emergency info into areas that need it quickly, for example, towns in  
the path of a tornado passing through a station's reception  
footprint.  Analog broadcast can get into those areas even if they're  
outside the B-contour of the station, at least for a visible enough  
signal to get the warning.  DTV has a sharper cutoff below minimal  
*broadcast quality* signal strength, and the signal gets  
unintelligible a lot faster as it degrades than analog does, mainly  
because while our eyes can adjust for noisy analog signals quite well,  
they're not evolved to adjust for scrambled compressed digital images.

If the LPTV and translator licensing business weren't so colossally  
screwed up (mainly from application-spamming by a certain extremely  
aggressive religious group that's so flooded the FCC with LPTV/ 
translator applications that they literally don't know which way is up  
with them right now!), I'd say LPTV would be the niche for analog  
broadcast to fill the gap on this.  But because it's not possible for  
*anyone* to get an LPTV or translator license right now, we're stuck  
with the high-power migration to DTV with no workaround.  There are  
people in local and state emergency management treating this as a  
serious potential issue right now ..


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Re: Brin: Pre-readers?

2008-12-18 Thread d.brin

Hi Brinellers.

I recall that some of you were excellent manuscript pre-readers in 
times past (Julia?)  Are any of you interested in doing it again?

This time it would be for the first novel of my wife, Cheryl, who's 
done a 100kword SF novel that's somewhat YA and feminine in tone, 
about a girl trying to make it while her nation is in a WW-I like 
turmoil on a colony world.  It's lovely and thoughtful and could use 
a few more perceptive eyes.

Contact me at davidb...@sbcglobal.net

Oh, I have been posting a series of Suggestions to Obama at 
http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/

Here's hoping you are all thriving, that your holidays are joyous, 
and that we get a civilization to be proud-of.

david b
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Re: Russia (Was What is wealth?)

2008-12-18 Thread Charlie Bell

On 19/12/2008, at 5:47 AM, Dan M wrote:

 More than that, why are there so many Russian ex-pats, well-educated,
 doing menial jobs in tourist resorts? 'cause it's better than no job
 in Russia.

 And I bet it's not just the usual theater majors doing menial jobs  
 while
 waiting for their break (father of a theater major sighs).  I've  
 read that
 the Greek riots are tied to this type of problem; there are no/very  
 few good
 jobs available for college graduates there.

No, by well-educated I mean professionals - accountants, lawyers,  
medics etc.

Cyprus was full of them working bar, waiting, or worse being exploited  
in strip clubs. (It wasn't like London where an attractive woman could  
make good money doing exotic dancing a couple of times a week -  
these girls were often being forced to have sex with customers).

Charlie.
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Re: Russia (Was What is wealth?)

2008-12-18 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
Dan M. wrote:

 I would have thought that a low birth rate is very very good
 evidence of being part of the first world.

 It does have that in common with the first world.  But, the life expectancy
 of both men and women in every age catagory is less than it was 40 years
 ago.

And how can we trust communist statistics?

Alberto Monteiro
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Re: Belgian Beer (was Re: Russia (Was What is wealth?))

2008-12-18 Thread John Horn
Jim wrote:

 I  know it betrays my Irish-ness, but I think the Belgians make the best
beers.
Well, now they make Budweiser too so there is no accounting for taste...

 - jmh
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RE: Russia (Was What is wealth?)

2008-12-18 Thread Dan M


 -Original Message-
 From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On
 Behalf Of Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 6:00 PM
 To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion
 Subject: Re: Russia (Was What is wealth?)
 
 Dan M. wrote:
 
  I would have thought that a low birth rate is very very good
  evidence of being part of the first world.
 
  It does have that in common with the first world.  But, the life
 expectancy
  of both men and women in every age catagory is less than it was 40 years
  ago.
 
 And how can we trust communist statistics?

By secondary measure, of course. :-)  If you want to argue that things were
worse than the official statistics under the USSR, you won't find a debate
opponent in me.  But, after the USSR fell, a lot of data became available.
The person who wrote the paper in question is an old lion of polisci, and
has a great reputation.  And, he is publishing in a very anti-Communist
journal.  So, I'd be shocked if he just took stock communist statistics
without using secondary data.  It could be that the fall wasn't as great as
he portrayed, but men use to live longer, on average, than 60 years.  Over
70 or so years of Communist rule, demographic errors of that magnitude
become to big to miss. 

Dan M. 

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Re: Belgian Beer (was Re: Russia (Was What is wealth?))

2008-12-18 Thread William T Goodall

On 18 Dec 2008, at 14:08, Jim Sharkey wrote:

 Wayne wrote:
 5. The nicest beer I ever had the pleasure of drinking was in  
 Russia.  It
 was a Belgian brew and I wish I remembered the brand name.

 I know it betrays my Irish-ness, but I think the Belgians make the  
 best beers.

 Chimay, Corsendonk, Maredsous...all delicious and with some fairly  
 high alcohol
 contents to boot, which is a bit of a bonus I must admit.  I like  
 their Trippels the best,
 but YMMV.


Czech beer is very very good. And it costs less than  coffee or Coke  
in Prague.

Bohemian Maru
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