Re: Screwy Irregulars Question

2009-07-02 Thread Ronn! Blankenship

Thanks to all who replied!  Comments follow . . .


At 10:01 PM Wednesday 7/1/2009, Nick Arnett wrote:


On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Ronn! Blankenship 
ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net wrote:
I have a new lawn mower.  According to the instructions I need to 
change the oil before using the mower again (the instructions say to 
change the oil after the first 5 hours of operation, which is about 
how long it ran mowing the whole yard twice, which is what I've done 
with it up to now).  The drain plug is in the form of a screw with a 
square-shaped recess in the outer end.  I know that the tool used on 
such a screw with a hexagonal recess is sometimes referred to as an 
Allen wrench.  Does anyone know what the proper name is for a tool 
that fits a screw or bolt with a square-shaped recess in the head, 
so I know what to look/ask for?



A square drive.




Thanks!




You should be able to find one that fits a socket wrench.




Have /those/ in all three sizes.  And sockets to fit in SAE and 
metric.  (Well, I don't think I have a set of metric sockets for the 
1/2 drive:  up 'til now the need has never arisen.)  As well as 
lotsa other such stuff.  [Tool]boxes and boxes of stuff.  Of course, 
nothing in all of that to fit this plug . . .




Ideally, your owners manual will tell you what size to 
get.  Otherwise, you'll have to measure, which is tricky... and 
it'll help if you know if it's metric or SAE.




Nope.  Best eyeball guess is that it is either 9mm, 10mm, 5/16, or 
3/8.  Some other bolts on the mower were 3/8, so maybe that means 
everything will be SAE rather than metric.  Or maybe not.




At 10:02 PM Wednesday 7/1/2009, John Williams wrote:

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Ronn!
Blankenshipronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net wrote:
  Does anyone know what the
 proper name is for a tool that fits a screw or bolt with a square-shaped
 recess in the head, so I know what to look/ask for?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robertson_screwdriver




Yes, I've heard that name somewhere, somewhen, and indeed have a set 
of bits (part of a larger set of bits for a power or manual 
screwdriver, but they are not named on the case) that I think 
includes all of the sizes in the table in that article.  The recess 
in the plug in question is about twice the size of the largest of 
those, though.




At 10:05 PM Wednesday 7/1/2009, David Hobby wrote:

Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
I have a new lawn mower.  According to the instructions I need to 
change the oil before using the mower again (the instructions say 
to change the oil after the first 5 hours of operation, which is 
about how long it ran mowing the whole yard twice, which is what 
I've done with it up to now).  The drain plug is in the form of a 
screw with a square-shaped recess in the outer end.  I know that 
the tool used on such a screw with a hexagonal recess is sometimes 
referred to as an Allen wrench.  Does anyone know what the proper 
name is for a tool that fits a screw or bolt with a square-shaped 
recess in the head, so I know what to look/ask for?

...

Ronn--

Not me.  I tend to confidently go into the store
and say that I need something like a hex key but
for a square hole.  My sense is that the terminology
is not very standardized, anyway.




With luck the retired trucker next door will have a set of them (he 
still has the garage and tools to work on his pickups and RV) or else 
the guy down the street that works on stuff will and I can borrow it 
at least long enough to find out which size is required.  While 
waiting for the opportunity to catch one of them I thought I'd ask 
around to see if I could find out what the were called so as not to 
have to ask one of them for a thingy of some sort (and then when I 
know the size I can also go to the store and ask for the right thing 
in the right size rather than having to buy a whole set myself, which 
could get expensive, esp. for someone on disability.*  The mower?  It 
was a gift . . .).


*The new one doesn't take quite as long to use as the old one before 
it finally died completely.  Sometimes it would take two or three 
sessions to complete the yard.  And that doesn't count the 
resting  time between sessions, which in many cases can be two or 
three days.  One of the biggest improvements is that when the new one 
stops (out of gas, choked on the really thick grass in the front 
yard, or just had to stop to move a tree limb which had fallen in the 
way since the last time, or whatever) it starts right up.  With the 
old one, after it stopped I'd frequently pull it two or three times 
without success and on top of having mowed whatever I had so far that 
would be it for me . . .





It could be that the driver for a socket set,




I thought of that, but wanted to get the right thing instead.  Not as 
much hurry right now, since we haven't had any rain for several days 
and so it is not growing tropical rain forest fast like it was before . . .





 or the
right sized flat-bladed 

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