Re: Facebook censorship and internet porn

2010-12-13 Thread Deborah Harrell
 Bruce Bostwick wrote:
 Charlie wrote:
  Jon wrote:
 
 ...that may prevent a woman from learning how to examine herself for
 cancer or her options if she is diagnosed...
 ...policy of removing pictures of breastfeeding.

I glanced at the La Leche League site (an org. that promotes breastfeeding) - 
no easily accessible pix; perhaps one needs to join? Interesting article on 
age-of-weaning, which here in the US is typically less than one year, but in 
developing countries can be 3 or 4 yo.  Huh! - I'd draw the line at teething!

  evidently there are a lot of riled up women about
  this.  evidently, some few were using breastfeeding
  as a way around the facebook restriction on frontal nudity. 
[on facebook]

roll eyes  Some people just can't deal with bodily functions in a 
non-kindergartener way, tittering instead of just acknowledging.  Not that 
there isn't genuine humor to be found in many cases (I've _so_ had to adjust to 
living with a guy)...

snippage 

 The problem, and this seems to be endemic to the industry [porn]
 as far as I can tell, is that the industry would very much
 rather do business the way it does now and take every
 possible tactical and/or strategic action available to make
 sure they're not only net-ubiquitous, but that they actually
 crowd out legitimate web search results for completely
 unrelated subjects, and appear in your inbox even if your
 junk mail filtering is strong enough that you end up
 filtering out your friends before you filter out the porn
 ads.  Rather than target a perfectly willing and
 sex-positive demographic that would be happy to pay for
 their premium content, they would rather make the maximum
 possible nuisance of themselves trying to convert maybe one
 in a thousand or so of the largely sex-negative remainder of
 the population that doesn't want to see anything they have to offer. 

Indeed.

 As for free speech, deciding what's abuse of it and what's
 legitimate use of it is a formitable philsophical problem
 indeed.  Likewise, which restrictions on it are
 legitimate and which are overbroad and possibly
 draconian.  There's room for considerable debate along
 that boundary...

I personally find porn repugnant, but as long as only consenting adults are 
involved, I can't advocate banning it.  thread crossover As in the wikileaks 
dump - I don't want anyone endangered, but there's far too much being covered 
up by various govt's.  

 And I repeat my assertion that our society (particularly
 that of the USA, and even more particularly that of some
 regions of the USA and/or specific segments of the
 population) is not exactly objective or even rational on
 this subject, and is influenced by social and cultural
 standards that I consider dysfunctional and destructive at
 the very least.  Not the least of which is the
 perception that nudity == sex, or the related perception
 that sex == bad/dirty/evil.  Or a whole list of
 others...

We do seem to be schizoid and schizophrenic as a society WRT sexuality. 

 The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
 alarmed and hence clamorous to be led to safety by menacing
 it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them
 imaginary. - H.L. MENCKEN

Good one!

'It's hard to fight the fire while you're feeding the flames' - Rush

Debbi
Condoms For The Mind? Maru
Debbi


  

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Re: Facebook breastfeeding ban

2010-12-13 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jon Louis Mann wrote:
 
 I didn't say that. What I said is that only 
 sociopaths, perverts and babykillers can think 
 that breastfeeding is obscene.
 
 Would you agree that it is in bad taste
 to use foul language, even though it is an expression 
 of free speech that some feel is disrespectful and 
 offensive, or are they just prudes who don't deserve 
 to have an opinion?
 
Non sequitur. How does the use of foul language
correlate to breastfeeding? Do you think breastfeeding
is some way disgusting or offensive?

 and another picture of the Google model:
 http://www.iamboredr.com/media/1645/Boobs/
 
 The girl is fully clothed, what's the point?
 
 NO way was she fully dressed! (although her nipples 
 were covered)

QED. And I still can't see why you posted that
image. Is it to protest against the induction of
breast cancer caused by the use of tight bras?

 I have never heard of a Facebook rule 
 outlawing pictures of women breast feeding in public.  
 Are you certain this, Alberto?

They removed _all_ breastfeeding images.
 
Alberto Monteiro


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Re: For Alberto and others

2010-12-13 Thread Alberto Monteiro

Ronn! Blankenship wrote:

 The middle segment on tonight's 60 Minutes was on Brazil and its 
 economy.  I don't know if when the show becomes available on cbs.com
 
 (tomorrow morning?) it will be accessible from outside the U.S. or not.

I hope they didn't base their research on the Uncyclopedia article...

Alberto Monteiro


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Breastfeeding on Facebook

2010-12-13 Thread Jon Louis Mann
 I didn't say that. What I said is that only 
 sociopaths, perverts and baby killers can think 
 that breastfeeding is obscene.
 
 Would you agree that it is in bad taste
 to use foul language, even though it is an expression 
 of free speech that some feel is disrespectful and 
 offensive, or are they just prudes who don't deserve 
 to have an opinion?
 
Non sequitur. How does the use of foul language
correlate to breastfeeding? Do you think breastfeeding
is some way disgusting or offensive?

 and another picture of the Google model:
 http://www.iamboredr.com/media/1645/Boobs/

 The girl is fully clothed, what's the point?

 NO way was she fully dressed! (although her nipples 
 were covered)

QED. And I still can't see why you posted that
image. Is it to protest against the induction of
breast cancer caused by the use of tight bras?

 I have never heard of a Facebook rule 
 outlawing pictures of women breast feeding in public.  
 Are you certain about this, Alberto?

I was trying to make the point that there are far 
more important issues than a breast feeding ban on
Facebook, such as privacy, or using foul language, 
which I have seen all over Facebook. I was a bottle 
baby myself, which may explain why I posted those 
cleavage pictures!~)  Do you think I may harbor 
some deeply buried resentment because I was denied 
my own Mommy's breast?~)

As for the Google girl with the giant titties; I 
was being ironic.  I honestly had no idea tight 
bras caused breast cancer!~)

Thanks to Charlie's link I recognize that Facebook 
truly is banning breast feeding pictures.  I wonder 
who were the people who were posting the obscene 
pictures of breast feeding that prompted Facebook 
to take such drastic action.

Nevertheless, I will continue to use Facebook and
guard my privacy as best I can; which is what I 
consider to be a far more important reason to avoid 
using the electronic interface.
Jon


  

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Carbon, Rings

2010-12-13 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
The First Carbon Planet? - ScienceNOW - 
http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2010/12/scienceshot-the-first-carbon.html


Violent Origin for Saturn's Rings - ScienceNOW - 
http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2010/12/violent-origin-for-saturns-rings.html






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